Comments on: Holy Guacamole! Keith Olbermann Invokes Dred Scott Analogy? http://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/ "One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or else shut up." -- Arthur Koestler Fri, 25 May 2012 03:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Obama: Supremely Indifferent to the Constitution at Haemethttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-2668 Obama: Supremely Indifferent to the Constitution at Haemet Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:24:54 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-2668 [...] Like Keith Olbermann’s Dred Scott analogy, Obama’s criticisms are constitutionally incorrect; unlike Olbermann, however, Obama made his statements while the Justices were sitting in front of him – and sitting there with little opportunity to respond.  Criticising the Supreme Court is one thing; criticising those who are expected to sit there and take it is quite another. [...] [...] Like Keith Olbermann’s Dred Scott analogy, Obama’s criticisms are constitutionally incorrect; unlike Olbermann, however, Obama made his statements while the Justices were sitting in front of him – and sitting there with little opportunity to respond.  Criticising the Supreme Court is one thing; criticising those who are expected to sit there and take it is quite another. [...]

]]> By: Olbermann’s Secret Racism Decoder Ring : The Other McCainhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-2310 Olbermann’s Secret Racism Decoder Ring : The Other McCain Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:18:53 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-2310 [...] trip  night after night. A Supreme Court decision on campaign-finance laws? It’s Dred Scott! You wonder if he carries this tendency over into his private life.Waiter, I specifically ordered [...] [...] trip  night after night. A Supreme Court decision on campaign-finance laws? It’s Dred Scott! You wonder if he carries this tendency over into his private life.Waiter, I specifically ordered [...]

]]> By: Roxeanne de Lucahttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-1564 Roxeanne de Luca Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:20:23 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-1564 <i>Dred Scott's</i> basic holding was that one class of human beings were not "persons" who were given Constitutional rights and protections. (IIRC, in <i>Dred Scott</i>, the Supreme Court made the rather cowardly decision to get out of the entire slavery issue by simply refusing to rule on the case: it determined first that Mr. Scott was not a "person" within the definition of the Constitution, and, as such, could not bring the case into federal court. Therefore, the Court threw the entire thing out on standing grounds. As a very cold comfort, Scott could re-file his claim in state court and go through the entire process again, just not in federal court, but, understandably, did not and died shortly thereafter.) Beyond the fact that the cases are more opposite than analogous (<i>Dred Scott</i> being the denial of Constitutional protections to a certain group, whereas <i>Citizens United</i> affirms those protections and limits censorship), it irritates me to no end that these liberals equate everything that they don't like with pre-1960s treatment of African-Americans. Don't like Obama's socialism (like, apparently, 52% of Massachusetts)? You're a cross-burner. Care about the structure of the Constitution and the limits of government control? Bring back slavery! It's like the news took Teddy Kennedy's 1987 (IIRC) speech about Judge Bork ("In Bork's America, blacks will sit at segregated lunch counters and rape won't be a crime") and applied it to every single thing that makes them sad. Dred Scott’s basic holding was that one class of human beings were not “persons” who were given Constitutional rights and protections. (IIRC, in Dred Scott, the Supreme Court made the rather cowardly decision to get out of the entire slavery issue by simply refusing to rule on the case: it determined first that Mr. Scott was not a “person” within the definition of the Constitution, and, as such, could not bring the case into federal court. Therefore, the Court threw the entire thing out on standing grounds. As a very cold comfort, Scott could re-file his claim in state court and go through the entire process again, just not in federal court, but, understandably, did not and died shortly thereafter.)

Beyond the fact that the cases are more opposite than analogous (Dred Scott being the denial of Constitutional protections to a certain group, whereas Citizens United affirms those protections and limits censorship), it irritates me to no end that these liberals equate everything that they don’t like with pre-1960s treatment of African-Americans. Don’t like Obama’s socialism (like, apparently, 52% of Massachusetts)? You’re a cross-burner. Care about the structure of the Constitution and the limits of government control? Bring back slavery! It’s like the news took Teddy Kennedy’s 1987 (IIRC) speech about Judge Bork (“In Bork’s America, blacks will sit at segregated lunch counters and rape won’t be a crime”) and applied it to every single thing that makes them sad.

]]> By: Roxeanne de Lucahttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-39484 Roxeanne de Luca Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:20:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-39484 <i>Dred Scott's</i> basic holding was that one class of human beings were not "persons" who were given Constitutional rights and protections. (IIRC, in <i>Dred Scott</i>, the Supreme Court made the rather cowardly decision to get out of the entire slavery issue by simply refusing to rule on the case: it determined first that Mr. Scott was not a "person" within the definition of the Constitution, and, as such, could not bring the case into federal court. Therefore, the Court threw the entire thing out on standing grounds. As a very cold comfort, Scott could re-file his claim in state court and go through the entire process again, just not in federal court, but, understandably, did not and died shortly thereafter.) Beyond the fact that the cases are more opposite than analogous (<i>Dred Scott</i> being the denial of Constitutional protections to a certain group, whereas <i>Citizens United</i> affirms those protections and limits censorship), it irritates me to no end that these liberals equate everything that they don't like with pre-1960s treatment of African-Americans. Don't like Obama's socialism (like, apparently, 52% of Massachusetts)? You're a cross-burner. Care about the structure of the Constitution and the limits of government control? Bring back slavery! It's like the news took Teddy Kennedy's 1987 (IIRC) speech about Judge Bork ("In Bork's America, blacks will sit at segregated lunch counters and rape won't be a crime") and applied it to every single thing that makes them sad. Dred Scott’s basic holding was that one class of human beings were not “persons” who were given Constitutional rights and protections. (IIRC, in Dred Scott, the Supreme Court made the rather cowardly decision to get out of the entire slavery issue by simply refusing to rule on the case: it determined first that Mr. Scott was not a “person” within the definition of the Constitution, and, as such, could not bring the case into federal court. Therefore, the Court threw the entire thing out on standing grounds. As a very cold comfort, Scott could re-file his claim in state court and go through the entire process again, just not in federal court, but, understandably, did not and died shortly thereafter.)

Beyond the fact that the cases are more opposite than analogous (Dred Scott being the denial of Constitutional protections to a certain group, whereas Citizens United affirms those protections and limits censorship), it irritates me to no end that these liberals equate everything that they don’t like with pre-1960s treatment of African-Americans. Don’t like Obama’s socialism (like, apparently, 52% of Massachusetts)? You’re a cross-burner. Care about the structure of the Constitution and the limits of government control? Bring back slavery! It’s like the news took Teddy Kennedy’s 1987 (IIRC) speech about Judge Bork (“In Bork’s America, blacks will sit at segregated lunch counters and rape won’t be a crime”) and applied it to every single thing that makes them sad.

]]> By: Keith Olbermann battles sanity and loseshttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-1557 Keith Olbermann battles sanity and loses Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:38:24 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-1557 [...] Hat tip transcript:  Robert Stacy McCain,  The Other McCain. [...] [...] Hat tip transcript:  Robert Stacy McCain,  The Other McCain. [...]

]]> By: Bob Belvederehttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-1530 Bob Belvedere Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:13:15 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-1530 1) The people who run our big corporations are, almost all to a man, Leftists these days. The fact is that, while I think Richard is right that most Leftists still think corporations are evil, most of the ones in positions of power have realized and have gone on to take advantage of the fact that the heads of the big ones are Lefties. They have joined together to bring about a Command Economy. This is nothing new: the big business owners in Italy and Germany mad the same devilish pact with their fascist governments in the 1920's and 1930's. 2) As for Olbergrupenfuehrer Keith: I usually don't even mention him on my site because I do not like to attack the obviously mentally ill [I'm serious; the man is ill]. 1) The people who run our big corporations are, almost all to a man, Leftists these days. The fact is that, while I think Richard is right that most Leftists still think corporations are evil, most of the ones in positions of power have realized and have gone on to take advantage of the fact that the heads of the big ones are Lefties. They have joined together to bring about a Command Economy. This is nothing new: the big business owners in Italy and Germany mad the same devilish pact with their fascist governments in the 1920′s and 1930′s.

2) As for Olbergrupenfuehrer Keith: I usually don’t even mention him on my site because I do not like to attack the obviously mentally ill [I'm serious; the man is ill].

]]> By: Bob Belvederehttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-39483 Bob Belvedere Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:13:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-39483 1) The people who run our big corporations are, almost all to a man, Leftists these days. The fact is that, while I think Richard is right that most Leftists still think corporations are evil, most of the ones in positions of power have realized and have gone on to take advantage of the fact that the heads of the big ones are Lefties. They have joined together to bring about a Command Economy. This is nothing new: the big business owners in Italy and Germany mad the same devilish pact with their fascist governments in the 1920's and 1930's. 2) As for Olbergrupenfuehrer Keith: I usually don't even mention him on my site because I do not like to attack the obviously mentally ill [I'm serious; the man is ill]. 1) The people who run our big corporations are, almost all to a man, Leftists these days. The fact is that, while I think Richard is right that most Leftists still think corporations are evil, most of the ones in positions of power have realized and have gone on to take advantage of the fact that the heads of the big ones are Lefties. They have joined together to bring about a Command Economy. This is nothing new: the big business owners in Italy and Germany mad the same devilish pact with their fascist governments in the 1920′s and 1930′s.

2) As for Olbergrupenfuehrer Keith: I usually don’t even mention him on my site because I do not like to attack the obviously mentally ill [I'm serious; the man is ill].

]]> By: Rich Faderhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-1525 Rich Fader Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:36:15 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-1525 He actually worked at a couple of Los Angeles stations before that, KCBS and KTLA (the Tribune station, formerly owned for many years by Gene Autry...yeah, that Gene Autry). He was an entertaining, intelligent, funny sports guy. So I'm surprised as anybody that the guy turned into such a douche. He actually worked at a couple of Los Angeles stations before that, KCBS and KTLA (the Tribune station, formerly owned for many years by Gene Autry…yeah, that Gene Autry). He was an entertaining, intelligent, funny sports guy. So I’m surprised as anybody that the guy turned into such a douche.

]]> By: Rich Faderhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-39482 Rich Fader Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:36:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-39482 He actually worked at a couple of Los Angeles stations before that, KCBS and KTLA (the Tribune station, formerly owned for many years by Gene Autry...yeah, that Gene Autry). He was an entertaining, intelligent, funny sports guy. So I'm surprised as anybody that the guy turned into such a douche. He actually worked at a couple of Los Angeles stations before that, KCBS and KTLA (the Tribune station, formerly owned for many years by Gene Autry…yeah, that Gene Autry). He was an entertaining, intelligent, funny sports guy. So I’m surprised as anybody that the guy turned into such a douche.

]]> By: Ui2http://theothermccain.com/2010/01/23/holy-guacamole-keith-olbermann-invokes-dred-scott-analogy/comment-page-1/#comment-1523 Ui2 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:56:06 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=1200#comment-1523 ...and... 2. I liked Olberman when he actually worked for Disney, talking about such pressing matters as balls going through hoops. …and…

2. I liked Olberman when he actually worked for Disney, talking about such pressing matters as balls going through hoops.

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