Comments on: Let’s Get Something Straight About Tea Parties And Evangelicals http://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/ "One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or else shut up." -- Arthur Koestler Fri, 25 May 2012 17:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ran / Si Vis Pacemhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-6372 Ran / Si Vis Pacem Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:47:01 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-6372 Chris, <a href="http://ifyouseekpeace.blogspot.com/2010/03/davis-brooks-ignorant-or-simply.html" rel="nofollow">Thanks, and more here as we help Michael Ledeen fisk Brooksie.</a> Chris,
Thanks, and more here as we help Michael Ledeen fisk Brooksie.

]]> By: Ran / Si Vis Pacemhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-41618 Ran / Si Vis Pacem Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:47:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-41618 Chris, <a href="http://ifyouseekpeace.blogspot.com/2010/03/davis-brooks-ignorant-or-simply.html" rel="nofollow">Thanks, and more here as we help Michael Ledeen fisk Brooksie.</a> Chris,
Thanks, and more here as we help Michael Ledeen fisk Brooksie.

]]> By: Thrasymachushttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-6311 Thrasymachus Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:48:35 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-6311 Progressivism is *very* religious. The left loves it when ministers, rabbis, priests and nuns tell you you're going to hell if you're not a liberal. Progressivism is *very* religious. The left loves it when ministers, rabbis, priests and nuns tell you you’re going to hell if you’re not a liberal.

]]> By: Thrasymachushttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-41617 Thrasymachus Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:48:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-41617 Progressivism is *very* religious. The left loves it when ministers, rabbis, priests and nuns tell you you're going to hell if you're not a liberal. Progressivism is *very* religious. The left loves it when ministers, rabbis, priests and nuns tell you you’re going to hell if you’re not a liberal.

]]> By: A Rejoinder to Smitty: Why we NEED to fight social issues at the national issue « Smash Mouth Politicshttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-6306 A Rejoinder to Smitty: Why we NEED to fight social issues at the national issue « Smash Mouth Politics Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:20:52 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-6306 [...] Leave a Comment Smitty, the better looking blogger at “The Other McCain” wrote an excellent article today, but I believe that while his premise is correct, he draws the wrong conclusion.  Allow me to [...] [...] Leave a Comment Smitty, the better looking blogger at “The Other McCain” wrote an excellent article today, but I believe that while his premise is correct, he draws the wrong conclusion.  Allow me to [...]

]]> By: We lose an hour this week so I’m going to be crabby at Bride of Rovehttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-6305 We lose an hour this week so I’m going to be crabby at Bride of Rove Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:45:51 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-6305 [...] Smitty tackles god and politics. I go to church, not Tea Party protests, to hear preaching. The notions are orthogonal, and should remain so, in the American context. [...] [...] Smitty tackles god and politics. I go to church, not Tea Party protests, to hear preaching. The notions are orthogonal, and should remain so, in the American context. [...]

]]> By: FMaidmenthttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-6304 FMaidment Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:34:41 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-6304 Some of the most ardently libertarian people I know are also some of the most religious. Libertarianism is about throwing off the shackles of a tyrannical government and being allowed to live life as oje sees fit. This false notion that libertarians don't like religious conservatives is only true if those conservatives attempt to legislate their particular brand of morality. Social Libertarians, on the other hand, attempt to claim the "libertarian" label and often associate with true libertarians. These individuals buy-in to the "freedom to live as one chooses" but then about-face and try to use government to force acceptance. The great thing about the Tea Parties is that they are neither conservative nor moderate nor libertarian. They are ONLY about throwing off our legal and economic shackels, forcing back this tide of over-reaching, over-bearing government. Some of the most ardently libertarian people I know are also some of the most religious. Libertarianism is about throwing off the shackles of a tyrannical government and being allowed to live life as oje sees fit. This false notion that libertarians don’t like religious conservatives is only true if those conservatives attempt to legislate their particular brand of morality.

Social Libertarians, on the other hand, attempt to claim the “libertarian” label and often associate with true libertarians. These individuals buy-in to the “freedom to live as one chooses” but then about-face and try to use government to force acceptance.

The great thing about the Tea Parties is that they are neither conservative nor moderate nor libertarian. They are ONLY about throwing off our legal and economic shackels, forcing back this tide of over-reaching, over-bearing government.

]]> By: FMaidmenthttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-41616 FMaidment Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:34:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-41616 Some of the most ardently libertarian people I know are also some of the most religious. Libertarianism is about throwing off the shackles of a tyrannical government and being allowed to live life as oje sees fit. This false notion that libertarians don't like religious conservatives is only true if those conservatives attempt to legislate their particular brand of morality. Social Libertarians, on the other hand, attempt to claim the "libertarian" label and often associate with true libertarians. These individuals buy-in to the "freedom to live as one chooses" but then about-face and try to use government to force acceptance. The great thing about the Tea Parties is that they are neither conservative nor moderate nor libertarian. They are ONLY about throwing off our legal and economic shackels, forcing back this tide of over-reaching, over-bearing government. Some of the most ardently libertarian people I know are also some of the most religious. Libertarianism is about throwing off the shackles of a tyrannical government and being allowed to live life as oje sees fit. This false notion that libertarians don’t like religious conservatives is only true if those conservatives attempt to legislate their particular brand of morality.

Social Libertarians, on the other hand, attempt to claim the “libertarian” label and often associate with true libertarians. These individuals buy-in to the “freedom to live as one chooses” but then about-face and try to use government to force acceptance.

The great thing about the Tea Parties is that they are neither conservative nor moderate nor libertarian. They are ONLY about throwing off our legal and economic shackels, forcing back this tide of over-reaching, over-bearing government.

]]> By: ExurbanKevinhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-6296 ExurbanKevin Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:36:15 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-6296 Let's go Old (Testament) School with this as well, from 1 Samuel 8. ----- Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, "This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day." But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles." When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king." ------ Wouldn't it be great to get back to the point where government took ONLY a tenth of our possessions? Let’s go Old (Testament) School with this as well, from 1 Samuel 8.

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Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”

When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. The LORD answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”

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Wouldn’t it be great to get back to the point where government took ONLY a tenth of our possessions?

]]> By: ExurbanKevinhttp://theothermccain.com/2010/03/13/lets-get-something-straight-about-tea-parties-and-evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-41615 ExurbanKevin Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:36:00 +0000 http://theothermccain.com/?p=3997#comment-41615 Let's go Old (Testament) School with this as well, from 1 Samuel 8. ----- Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, "This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day." But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles." When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king." ------ Wouldn't it be great to get back to the point where government took ONLY a tenth of our possessions? Let’s go Old (Testament) School with this as well, from 1 Samuel 8.

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Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”

When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. The LORD answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”

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Wouldn’t it be great to get back to the point where government took ONLY a tenth of our possessions?

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