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> <channel><title>Comments on: Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us</title> <atom:link href="http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/</link> <description>&#34;One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or else shut up.&#34; -- Arthur Koestler</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:04:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Watchers Council Weekly Contest Winners 7-30-2010 &#124; Virginia Right!</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25938</link> <dc:creator>Watchers Council Weekly Contest Winners 7-30-2010 &#124; Virginia Right!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25938</guid> <description>[...] place *t* with 1/3 vote -The Other McCain - Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] place *t* with 1/3 vote -The Other McCain &#8211; Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; The Council has spoken 073010</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25853</link> <dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; The Council has spoken 073010</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:50:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25853</guid> <description>[...] place *t* with 1/3 vote -The Other McCain - Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] place *t* with 1/3 vote -The Other McCain &#8211; Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: This Week's Watcher Council Nominations are Up &#124; Virginia Right!</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25684</link> <dc:creator>This Week's Watcher Council Nominations are Up &#124; Virginia Right!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:02:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25684</guid> <description>[...] Other McCain – Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Other McCain – Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bunni</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25581</link> <dc:creator>Bunni</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25581</guid> <description>I think the WH is behind all this leaking.
The NYT had meetings with them before the story was printed.
This whole war is a waste of American lives, and we should get
out of there ASAP.  Nuke their poppy fields, and go home.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the WH is behind all this leaking.</p><p>The NYT had meetings with them before the story was printed.<br
/> This whole war is a waste of American lives, and we should get<br
/> out of there ASAP.  Nuke their poppy fields, and go home.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bunni</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-51736</link> <dc:creator>Bunni</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-51736</guid> <description>I think the WH is behind all this leaking.
The NYT had meetings with them before the story was printed.
This whole war is a waste of American lives, and we should get
out of there ASAP.  Nuke their poppy fields, and go home.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the WH is behind all this leaking.</p><p>The NYT had meetings with them before the story was printed.<br
/> This whole war is a waste of American lives, and we should get<br
/> out of there ASAP.  Nuke their poppy fields, and go home.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Watcher&#8217;s Council Nominations July 28, 2010</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25561</link> <dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Watcher&#8217;s Council Nominations July 28, 2010</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:51:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25561</guid> <description>[...] Other McCain &#8211; Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Other McCain &#8211; Brilliant: U.S. Gives Pakistan $1 Billion; Pakistan Helps Our Enemies Kill Us submitted by Virginia [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Estragon</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25487</link> <dc:creator>Estragon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:08:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25487</guid> <description>How sensational and wildly inaccurate is it to say, on the basis of the leaked documents, that &quot;For $1 billion a year, we’re paying for Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency to help kill our troops in Afghanistan&quot;?
This is the sort of fact-free analysis I came to expect from the NYT under Pinch.
It&#039;s been known for decades about the extremist infiltration of the ISI.  Previous governments hoped to co-opt the radicals, but wanted to keep them out of the Army, where the real power was for most of Pakistan&#039;s history.  The ISI was the answer because their main concern was India, and from a government policy point of view their extremism wasn&#039;t a problem in that regard.  And their islamist street cred actually helped forge cooperation with the Taliban and other Afghan Pushtun rebels fighting the Soviets.
But it was never true they had &quot;taken over&quot; the ISI - the Army would never have permitted it, although there were rogue units operating outside their control for a long time, and some still able to.  But the extra funding we&#039;ve been giving the Pakistanis since 9/11 has been going to gradually identify and isolate or remove these elements and compared to the situation we began with a lot of progress has been made.
Now, certainly if the Taliban has heat-seeking missiles they probably were procured through these rogue ISI contacts.  But the leaks reveal a grand total of ONE chopper taken down - either the missiles aren&#039;t up to date, the Taliban are terrible shots, they don&#039;t have very many of them, or all of the above.
The true villains here are the leakers and the publisher of the leaks.  Contemporaneous communiques from an ongoing war could endanger our troops in ways we cannot imagine.  This is a serious security breach which must be addressed immediately and with the full force of the law.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sensational and wildly inaccurate is it to say, on the basis of the leaked documents, that &#8220;For $1 billion a year, we’re paying for Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency to help kill our troops in Afghanistan&#8221;?</p><p>This is the sort of fact-free analysis I came to expect from the NYT under Pinch.</p><p>It&#8217;s been known for decades about the extremist infiltration of the ISI.  Previous governments hoped to co-opt the radicals, but wanted to keep them out of the Army, where the real power was for most of Pakistan&#8217;s history.  The ISI was the answer because their main concern was India, and from a government policy point of view their extremism wasn&#8217;t a problem in that regard.  And their islamist street cred actually helped forge cooperation with the Taliban and other Afghan Pushtun rebels fighting the Soviets.</p><p>But it was never true they had &#8220;taken over&#8221; the ISI &#8211; the Army would never have permitted it, although there were rogue units operating outside their control for a long time, and some still able to.  But the extra funding we&#8217;ve been giving the Pakistanis since 9/11 has been going to gradually identify and isolate or remove these elements and compared to the situation we began with a lot of progress has been made.</p><p>Now, certainly if the Taliban has heat-seeking missiles they probably were procured through these rogue ISI contacts.  But the leaks reveal a grand total of ONE chopper taken down &#8211; either the missiles aren&#8217;t up to date, the Taliban are terrible shots, they don&#8217;t have very many of them, or all of the above.</p><p>The true villains here are the leakers and the publisher of the leaks.  Contemporaneous communiques from an ongoing war could endanger our troops in ways we cannot imagine.  This is a serious security breach which must be addressed immediately and with the full force of the law.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Estragon</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-51733</link> <dc:creator>Estragon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-51733</guid> <description>How sensational and wildly inaccurate is it to say, on the basis of the leaked documents, that &quot;For $1 billion a year, we’re paying for Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency to help kill our troops in Afghanistan&quot;?
This is the sort of fact-free analysis I came to expect from the NYT under Pinch.
It&#039;s been known for decades about the extremist infiltration of the ISI.  Previous governments hoped to co-opt the radicals, but wanted to keep them out of the Army, where the real power was for most of Pakistan&#039;s history.  The ISI was the answer because their main concern was India, and from a government policy point of view their extremism wasn&#039;t a problem in that regard.  And their islamist street cred actually helped forge cooperation with the Taliban and other Afghan Pushtun rebels fighting the Soviets.
But it was never true they had &quot;taken over&quot; the ISI - the Army would never have permitted it, although there were rogue units operating outside their control for a long time, and some still able to.  But the extra funding we&#039;ve been giving the Pakistanis since 9/11 has been going to gradually identify and isolate or remove these elements and compared to the situation we began with a lot of progress has been made.
Now, certainly if the Taliban has heat-seeking missiles they probably were procured through these rogue ISI contacts.  But the leaks reveal a grand total of ONE chopper taken down - either the missiles aren&#039;t up to date, the Taliban are terrible shots, they don&#039;t have very many of them, or all of the above.
The true villains here are the leakers and the publisher of the leaks.  Contemporaneous communiques from an ongoing war could endanger our troops in ways we cannot imagine.  This is a serious security breach which must be addressed immediately and with the full force of the law.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sensational and wildly inaccurate is it to say, on the basis of the leaked documents, that &#8220;For $1 billion a year, we’re paying for Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency to help kill our troops in Afghanistan&#8221;?</p><p>This is the sort of fact-free analysis I came to expect from the NYT under Pinch.</p><p>It&#8217;s been known for decades about the extremist infiltration of the ISI.  Previous governments hoped to co-opt the radicals, but wanted to keep them out of the Army, where the real power was for most of Pakistan&#8217;s history.  The ISI was the answer because their main concern was India, and from a government policy point of view their extremism wasn&#8217;t a problem in that regard.  And their islamist street cred actually helped forge cooperation with the Taliban and other Afghan Pushtun rebels fighting the Soviets.</p><p>But it was never true they had &#8220;taken over&#8221; the ISI &#8211; the Army would never have permitted it, although there were rogue units operating outside their control for a long time, and some still able to.  But the extra funding we&#8217;ve been giving the Pakistanis since 9/11 has been going to gradually identify and isolate or remove these elements and compared to the situation we began with a lot of progress has been made.</p><p>Now, certainly if the Taliban has heat-seeking missiles they probably were procured through these rogue ISI contacts.  But the leaks reveal a grand total of ONE chopper taken down &#8211; either the missiles aren&#8217;t up to date, the Taliban are terrible shots, they don&#8217;t have very many of them, or all of the above.</p><p>The true villains here are the leakers and the publisher of the leaks.  Contemporaneous communiques from an ongoing war could endanger our troops in ways we cannot imagine.  This is a serious security breach which must be addressed immediately and with the full force of the law.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Old Rebel</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-25425</link> <dc:creator>Old Rebel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:23:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-25425</guid> <description>This is just the latest example of the self-defeating nature of this war -- and of DC&#039;s insane foreign policy in general.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just the latest example of the self-defeating nature of this war &#8212; and of DC&#8217;s insane foreign policy in general.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Old Rebel</title><link>http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/brilliant-u-s-gives-pakistan-1-billion-pakistan-helps-our-enemies-kill-us/comment-page-1/#comment-51727</link> <dc:creator>Old Rebel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://theothermccain.com/?p=11358#comment-51727</guid> <description>This is just the latest example of the self-defeating nature of this war -- and of DC&#039;s insane foreign policy in general.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just the latest example of the self-defeating nature of this war &#8212; and of DC&#8217;s insane foreign policy in general.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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