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BREAKING: Kaitlyn Hunt Refuses Plea Offer, Will Face Trial on June 20

Posted on | May 24, 2013 | 123 Comments

Kaitlyn Hunt, the Florida 18-year-old who admitted a sexual affair with a 14-year-old girl, has rejected a plea-bargain offer from prosecutors in Indian River County and will face trial June 20 on charges of lewd and lascivious battery.

UPDATE: Hunt’s supporters had mounted an online campaign claiming that she was the victim of homophobic prejudice in an effort to pressure prosecutors to drop the felony charges against her.

While prosecutors had offered a plea bargain that would have kept Hunt out of prison on supervised release, Hunt and her supporters wanted the charges reduced to a misdemeanor. Hunt’s supporters say because her sexual involvement with a 14-year-old freshman girl — which began inside a toilet stall at Sebastian High School — was consensual, she should not be charged with a felony.

UPDATE II: Liberal organizations and major media have united behind the #FreeKate movement’s argument that Hunt is a victim, and have demonized the parents of the 14-year-old as “bigoted religious zealots.” However, in an interview with the local CBS affiliate yesterday, Jim and Laurie Smith, denied those accusations, saying they twice warned Hunt to stay away from their daughter. The Smiths say they only went to police after a Jan. 4 incident in which their daughter went missing overnight; a sheriff’s department arrest affidavit in the case says the 14-year-old ran away and spent that night at Hunt’s house, where the two teens “put their fingers inside of each other’s vaginas, put their mouths on each other’s vaginas, and both of them used a vibrator on each other to insert it in each other’s vaginas.”

UPDATE III: It is doubtful that Hunt’s attorneys will attempt what Da Tech identifies as The Roman Polanski Defense:

“Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!”

But the cross-examination should certainly be interesting, eh?

And what about the forensic evidence? Will prosecutors include the vibrator as Exhibit A? If readers want to send me to Florida next month to cover The Teenage Lesbian Trial of the Century, this would be a good time to hit the tip jar.





 

UPDATE IV: Darleen Click at Protein Wisdom:

Merely three years ago Whoopi Goldberg was rightfully chastised for defending Roman Polaski’s sexual relationship with a 13 year old girl by questioning whether or not it was rape-rape. . . .
On one hand, we have the the Obama Administration demanding universities criminalize even “offensive” speech as sexual harassment, making all college students nascent sexual harassers; but we have a whole new social movement dedicated to decriminalizing sexual behavior with 14 year olds . . .
Minors must be emancipated from their parents and adults must be dependent on The State.

Dan Collins at The Conservatory:

Meanwhile, on Twitter, with the hashtag #FreeKate, and elsewhere online, the far left has tried to make this a cause celebre, painting the issue as one of two young girls being in love, but tormented by the younger’s Christofascist Godbag parents. . . . [T]hey go so far as to lie about the age of the younger girl, stating that she was just 17 (you know what I mean), when these incidents occurred, because that helps them shape the narrative of victimization.

You should read the whole thing. The automatic conflation of “gay = victim” is one of those emotional buttons that liberals love to push. And speaking of pushing buttons, hit the tip jar.

You’d hate yourself if I missed this one, wouldn’t you?





 

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123 Responses to “BREAKING: Kaitlyn Hunt Refuses Plea Offer, Will Face Trial on June 20”

  1. RPGPrince
    May 24th, 2013 @ 4:19 pm

    I’m fully capable of outwitting you in any area. I work in an After School program, in a leadership position. I work with small groups of high school teenagers on a day to day basis, some as young as 14. If you allow this young adults to have responsibility, they handle it, they step up to the plate. You people make me sick because you lord over these young adults as though they are 2 steps short of being toddlers.

    You give them no respect and allow them no responsibilities and treat them like second class citizens and you act SHOCKED when they rebel against your petty authority, you act shocked when they display a lack of mature, well, I say you get what you give! Give them no respect, give them no dignity, and you’ll get none in return. Me and my co-workers in this program treat these young adults with that respect, we hold them accountable for their actions like we would any other employee and they show a level of maturity, levelheadedness, and respect I previously wouldn’t have expected, I was wrong, just like all of you are.

    Down-vote me, prove to me what I already know, American society is built around ageism against our youth, shame on all of you.

  2. Dianna Deeley
    May 24th, 2013 @ 4:23 pm

    I do not recall thinking of 14 year old kids as my peers when I was 18.

    Do you really, truly, honestly believe that?

  3. Bob Belvedere
    May 24th, 2013 @ 4:26 pm

    She looks to me like a typical Leftist do-gooder [I repeat myself] in the making.

  4. RPGPrince
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:08 pm

    Then you are a 54 yr white lesbian who is an idiot.

  5. tracycoyle
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:14 pm

    Should a 14 yr old have the right to vote, join the military, join in a contract, drink, drive a bus? No, because a 14 yr old has the cognitive ability of a ROCK. I have an 18 yr daughter about to graduate from high school – smart, responsible and was barely capable of walking the dog at 14 safely.

    What a prince….

  6. tracycoyle
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:17 pm

    Having read some of your other comments, I stand by both of mine. The competency of SOME 14 yr olds does not change human nature. Teenagers will have sex, I’ve got little problem with that IN GENERAL, so, a pair of 14 yr olds, or a 14 and 16 yr old…probably not my issue….18 and 14….there is no real age difference between 50 and 54, but between 14 and 18, a world of difference.

  7. aliswell
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:22 pm

    They did; Kaitlyn Hunt IS a criminal.

  8. aliswell
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:23 pm

    Clearly you see nothing wrong with child predation. Are you a pedophile, “Prince?”

  9. Richard McEnroe
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:28 pm

    You sound like someone who shouldn’t be allowed to work anywhere near young people.

  10. RPGPrince
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:29 pm

    Since you are being respectful even in light of my heated comment, I will respectfully disagree and elaborate:

    You are deciding someone deserves punishment for the sake of the incompetency of SOME. You don’t know this 14 year old, you only know yours. For all you know, this 14 year old might have been raised to the point where she is fully capable of making competent decisions. You don’t know, the state doesn’t know, the prosecutors don’t know. For all that, the life of someone who by all accounts is a wonderful human being could be ruined forever. No joke, no making light, a serious matter, all for a consensual relationship. Do you honestly think the 18 year old girl tricked the 14 year old into putting her fingers into her vagina?

    I mean really, do you really think it’s OK to ruin someones life over this? Do you honestly think it is rape? Why? I really want to know, how can you feel that way? What if it was your 18 year old daughter, falling in love with a freshmen and engaging in a consensual relationship? Would you be OK with the full force of the state coming down on her?

  11. RPGPrince
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:32 pm

    Are you a jester fool? Do you really think an 18 year old engaging in consensual relations amounts to pedophilia? Is a 18 year old and a 14 year old putting their fingers in each other’s vaginas not OK at that age, but it’d suddenly be OK in a couple years. Are you freaking kidding me?

  12. RPGPrince
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:33 pm

    And you sound like someone who doesn’t know what the eff they are talking about. I’m 10 times better at my job then you will ever be.

  13. Adjoran
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:44 pm

    You can’t cross examine a tape, and the witness is available. If she won’t testify, there won’t be a trial – which may be what Hunt is banking on.

  14. Adjoran
    May 24th, 2013 @ 5:46 pm

    The good news is that fewer and fewer liberals are becoming parents. The long-term demographic trend favors conservatives, which explains the frantic rush to legalize as many new immigrant Democrats as possible.

  15. trangbang68
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:14 pm

    argument over if you are in a leadership position in an after school program, you’re way too intelligent for us dopes to argue with.

  16. trangbang68
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:16 pm

    uh huh, wondered about those eyes

  17. variable
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:16 pm

    I recall not thinking 7th graders were my peers when I was in 8th grade, but as a man in his 40s who has worked and taught in high school, yes, I do believe they are peers. Certainly many seniors are more mature than others, but so are many freshmen. By the second semester I see seniors and freshmen able to interact socially, work together on projects, and yes, date, with great frequency.

    I want to be clear: Ms. Hunt did commit the crime of statutory rape. She deserves to be sentenced and punished. She does not deserve more than a slap on the wrist and a bit of probation. Based on what little I know about the crime I feel the crime is really quite minor and one of ignorance and innocence, not on the level of manipulation and exploitation.

  18. trangbang68
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:17 pm

    Do you have a string in the back of your head that George Soros pulls and you say “ack…ack..Bush did it…”

  19. 0tty
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:18 pm

    The confrontation clause gives a defendant the right to cross examine witnesses. The victim has to be a witness called in court for the confrontation clause to be applicable or depose the victim pre-trial, see Florida Rule 3.220. The defense I imagine wouldn’t even call the victim if the Prosecution doesn’t because consent isn’t a defense that can be used in Florida child sex crimes and the judge won’t allow a consent defense to be heard by a jury or even presented as evidence. Consent can later be a mitigating factor after sentencing. Kaitlyn is taped legally by the police admitting to the crime and she gave up her Miranda and right to remain silent and admitted her crime to the police a second time – they have more then enough evidence and don’t need the victim to testify if they don’t want.

  20. trangbang68
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:18 pm

    Do you belong to NAMBLA?

  21. trangbang68
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:20 pm

    CPS ought to look in on your kids Uncle Pervo

  22. variable
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:20 pm

    I try not to play in gambits. One think I find very frustrating about online forums is the Gotchas so many people use as a substitute for an earnest expression of their feelings. I’m not actually disagreeing that Ms. Hunt was in the wrong, just in how wrong she was. She certainly does not deserve a felony conviction for statutory rape 3 months after she turned 18.

  23. Rachael
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:21 pm

    I don’t necessarily believe Miss Hunt should be charged with a felony if she was 17 when the affair started nor do I believe she should be on a sex offender registry her whole life. However, laws are laws and should be obeyed just as Miss Hunt should respected the wishes of the parents of a minor child. Whether the minor’s parents are bigots is irrelevant in the eyes of the law; she still broke the law. Should statutory rape laws be reexamined? Absolutely, but that discussion doesn’t and shouldn’t have an effect on Miss Hunt’s punishment.

  24. trangbang68
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:22 pm

    Its interesting most of the twisted perspectives in the comments here come from teachers or after school workers. No wonder there are so many pedophile incidents in public schools

  25. librarygryffon
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:26 pm

    you know the competency of the 14yo in question? If not, how can you state categorically that you know it was truly consensual? The age difference between 14 and 18 for most kids, even girls, is huge. There is a lot of cognitive development still going on which as someone who works with teenagers you ought to know. Ms. Hunt and her girl friend/victim are very unlikely to be of similar mental age and capacity.

    Do we want to ruin someone’s life for truly consensual acts? No, but as you yourself admit, we don’t know how mature the younger girl is, and there has to be a line someplace. Society has decided that a four year or more gap when the younger partner is 14 is where to draw the line, (that’s the case in a lot of states, not just FL), and Ms. Hunt may have known that. The other girl’s parents may have even told her when they were warning her to stay away. (If it were my daughter, I sure as hell would have warned the other party about possible legal consequences!)

    Ms. Hunt was told to stay away from the younger girl on several occasions. She can’t say she wasn’t warned, but she didn’t listen, and decided that being pretty and gay meant a free ticket. She may find out she is wrong.

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  27. Bob Belvedere
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:49 pm

    Yup…NAMBLA. See you being perp-walked soon, Pedo.

  28. Bob Belvedere
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:50 pm

    To the Left the ideas are more important than individual Human Beings.

  29. Bob Belvedere
    May 24th, 2013 @ 6:51 pm

    As Stacy has proven she was eighteen.

  30. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2013 @ 7:41 pm

    You’e just made the Anti-Homo case for the BSA. Alas, the BSA didn’t listen to anyone, and went to the dark side.

  31. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2013 @ 7:44 pm

    Can’t speak for the one you responded to, but it’s clear to me you’ve done a great job of kidding yourself.

  32. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2013 @ 7:46 pm

    I have noted that you often seem to be redundant when comes to that subject.

  33. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2013 @ 7:47 pm

    A good many 18 yos are to young for consent.

  34. tracycoyle
    May 24th, 2013 @ 7:51 pm

    I disagree – the assumption that ALL gays are pedophiles is offensive which is the premise for excluding gays from scouts.

  35. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2013 @ 7:55 pm

    We’ve already seen the extent of Adjoran’s legal “expertise” on another thread. No surprise he doesn’t know what he’s talking about here.

  36. tracycoyle
    May 24th, 2013 @ 8:12 pm

    Your comment was deleted (either by yourself or moderator, but I want to answer it: if my 18 yr daughter was the aggressor, I would do whatever I could to prevent her from going to jail, but I would NOT excuse her actions. As for the 14 yr old not being ‘tricked’, no, I believe the 14 yr old was a willing participant. That said, there is a reason parents use the phrase: if your friend jumps off a bridge, would you? Teens (especially younger ones) want to be socially acceptable and are willing to do things that make them socially acceptable, even STUPID things.
    I am not saying the 14 yr old used bad judgment, I AM saying the 18 yr old did and as people get older we hold them accountable for those ‘lapses’ in judgment. And no, I do not agree with ‘life long’ branding of individuals as sexual perverts/predators for situations such as this…. I generally oppose sexual predator registries.

  37. richard mcenroe
    May 24th, 2013 @ 8:20 pm

    Hmm. Narcissistic arrogance, a common trait of the sort of sociopathic sexual predator who seeks out your sort of employment…

  38. jakee308
    May 24th, 2013 @ 8:55 pm

    Beg to differ slightly.

    This is mainly about those who understand the need for the rule of law, that the State is the agent of the enforcement of those rules and that those who want different rules should use the political system to effect those changes.

    We are already experiencing too much law by popular demand these days.

  39. jakee308
    May 24th, 2013 @ 8:57 pm

    “Consent” is the underlying theme of NAMBLA.

  40. jakee308
    May 24th, 2013 @ 9:00 pm

    Yeah cause as we all know Icons can kill. We need Icon control NOW. (it’s for the CHILDREN!!!!!)

  41. jakee308
    May 24th, 2013 @ 9:08 pm

    Actually the reason for the exclusion was that the homosexual lifestyle and homosexuality was not considered a wholesome example to hold up as worthy of being emulated by impressionable and vulnerable young boys. (apparently GSA didn’t give a shit and now BSA has joined them.) Congratulations all you species nihilists. Homosexuality, bestiality (the real kind), abortion and other life degrading and depressing “lifestyles” are all shared with one commonality: Democrats/Progressives. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

  42. Robin H
    May 24th, 2013 @ 9:09 pm

    He could be the head custodian for all we know. I hate the ones that think they are the most educated amongst us.

  43. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2013 @ 9:39 pm

    You can disagree all you like. One does not have to make the assumption all queers are pedophiles. It’s a question of what the statement “morally straight” means. There is no morality outside of religion (and spare the idiocy that Atheists can be moral – they are parasites on religion in that issue), and God is the one person the postmodernists are doing all in their power to escape.

    To a postmodern, tolerance is the only virtue and the only sin is judgment. Alas, for your ilk, God could not care less what you think. He makes the rules, and you disobey at your peril. The judgment of God has already begun to fall on this country, and it continues to ignore His ways, the judgments will get worse. The freak weather and political chaos is just the beginning. The future is never bright for a people that ignore God.

  44. tracycoyle
    May 24th, 2013 @ 10:00 pm

    Well, as a classical liberal, aka conservative, I beg to differ again. Morality is not the exclusive domain of the religious (specifically Christian as many Muslims consider their ‘moral’ behavior to be quite consistent with God’s moral proclamations). BTW, I am agnostic so the atheist strawman is of no use here….

  45. Mike G.
    May 24th, 2013 @ 10:01 pm

    Sorry Dear, but the recidivism in sexual predators makes the life-long placement on “The List” a necessity.

    This young lady, if she isn’t slapped hard by law enforcement, will figure it’s okay to do it again and again.

  46. Dianna Deeley
    May 24th, 2013 @ 11:01 pm

    Sexual exploitation (which is what an older teen flattering a younger one into sex is) is not respectful or dignified, or empowering. “Consent”, when the person involved is too young, confused, and vulnerable to social and emotional pressure to actually consent is simply exploitation (at best) or rape (at worst).

    Why some people insist on believing the nonsensical notion that sex is always a good thing I will never know.

  47. Dianna Deeley
    May 24th, 2013 @ 11:08 pm

    You mean “3 months before she turns 19”, don’t you? As demonstrated in the previous article, Ms. Hunt’s birth date is August of 1994.

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  49. SDN
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:03 am

    Perhaps the blog admin should be looking at where your IP address originates from…

  50. Adjoran
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:05 am

    Oh, you’re still wrong about taking the 5th in a civil trial, Quarterwit:

    http://po.st/vOHeVh