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Perverts, Degenerates and Sociopaths

Posted on | June 22, 2013 | 163 Comments

Sue Lyon in Lolita (1962)

S.J. Reidhead has an excellent examination of the characteristic problems of pro-pedophile apologists in the “Free Kate” movement, an inevitable consequence of the arguments that the Hunt family has made in defense of the accused sex offender Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt.

From the beginning, both Kaitlyn’s parents have been dishonest about the case for the simple reason that, if they had been honest, the response would have been: “She ought to take the plea bargain.” The creation of a false narrative of victimhood was the only way for them to gain widespread sympathy. Once the truth about the case became public (the facts have been compiled at Support Honesty), the “Free Kate” movement lost mainstream support, and what was left was a hard core of fanatics, many of them evidently suffering from emotional disorders.

Meanwhile, however, S.J. Reidhead writes:

If you start surfing the internet, you will find that there are numerous articles popping up, along with sites, saying that the whole problem of pedophilia is hysteria.

This argument — that pedophiles are so rare that only “hysterics” worry about them — is often accompanied by pious lectures about the importance of understanding these pedophiles we shouldn’t worry about. And occasionally you find them citing “studies” which, upon further investigation, were authored by notorious pedophiles.

I’ve occasionally called attention to the case of Lawrence Stanley, whose 2002 arrest in Brazil I was the first American journalist to report. Stanley was the author of widely-cited “research” asserting that child pornography was both extremely rare and relatively harmless. Few knew it at the time, but Stanley is also a pedophile. Under the pseudonym “N.S. Aristoff,” he was editor/publisher of a quarterly newsletter called Uncommon Desires (“the voice of a politically conscious girl-love underground”) and, under other aliases, including “L.A. Stanaman,” he operated “Alessandra’s Smile,” which marketed pedophilia-themed merchandise including European nudist videos which can perhaps best be described as “soft-core kiddie porn.”

Stanley was arrested in Brazil, where he had been living for four years as a fugitive, having been convicted of sexually abusing children in the Netherlands (and similarly charged, but never prosecuted, in Quebec). At the time of his arrest, Stanley was operating a Web site that featured photos of girls ages 8 to 14 “modeling” swimsuits and underwear in what a police officer described as “sensual poses.”

Stanley’s career as a child pornographer and “girl-love” advocate were not mentioned, of course, when his dubious research was cited in the controversial 2002 book, Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Kids from Sex. Judith Levine’s book became a cause célèbre among some liberals for its arguments dismissing concerns about child molestation as a “moral panic” and repeatedly citing Lawrence Stanley’s work as proving the rarity of child pornography.

Such was the effectiveness of my reporting about Levine’s book that, if you order it on Amazon, you’ll find she added a foreword to the paperback edition in which she mentions me as part of the “anti-sex” (!) forces she blames for making her book controversial. But the controversy was Levine’s own fault because her argument — that parents were harming children by trying to protect them from perverts — is exactly what the perverts themselves have been arguing for years, and Levine’s book repeatedly cited not only Lawrence Stanley, but also multiple contributors to the Dutch pedophile journal Paidika.

A ‘Volatile’ Sense of Self-Worth

Lawrence Stanley came immediately to mind when I saw an analysis by Joyce Anthony cited in S.J. Reidhead’s article today:

Pedophiles appear to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits. They lack compassion for their victims and express no repentance for their actions. . . .
Pedophiles are irresponsible and psychologically labile.  The pedophile’s sense of self-worth is volatile and deregulated. . . .
Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful, omnipotent, and omniscient.

Oh, let’s re-read that passage again:

Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful, omnipotent, and omniscient.

That describes Lawrence Stanley to a tee — a lawyer who, in characteristic Wile E. Coyote fashion, believed he could out-smart the forces opposed to his sick obsession. Every time he got away with it (as in 1993, when he beat the rap on a federal charge of importing child pornography), this convinced him that he was superior to his antagonists, and he kept at it until he found himself in a Brazilian jail.

This brings us to a point it’s taken 700 words to a reach: Have you ever wondered what’s wrong with all these kooks on the Internet?

Because I sure as hell have.

Regular readers of this blog need no introduction to the parade of Internet Troll All-Stars with whom I’ve crossed paths over the years. For some reason, I’m an irresistible troll-magnet and, in the course of these encounters, it usually becomes obvious that the troll has personality traits similar to those described by Joyce Anthony — narcissistic, antisocial, lacking compassion, psychologically labile (i.e., prone to mood swings). And you don’t have to do too much scratching of the surface of the “Free Kate” movement to uncover such psychological tendencies among those who are fanatically committed to legalizing sex with 14-year-olds.

Perhaps this is not merely a coincidence, IYKWIMAITYD.

You may have noticed also that the Internet Troll All-Stars generally tend to be filled with a vindictive rage toward Republicans. And perhaps this is likewise not merely a coincidence.

Remember that child pornography that Lawrence Stanley’s “research” claimed did not actually exist, even while he was importing and/or producing it? Well, the Bush administration came into office determined to crack down on that stuff on the Internet. The Bush administration coordinated this with their crackdown on sex trafficking and “sex tourism” under the name Operation Predator which, in its first four years of existence, had reported more than 9,000 arrests. So much for the non-existence of pedophiles, eh?

All during the Bush years, there were a series of high-profile raids, many of them coordinated through Interpol with European authorities, to shut down online child pornography networks. In November 2001, “Operation Landmark” resulted in raids in 19 countries and, in July 2002, “Operation Twins” targeted a German-based network:

The gang was “a group of paedophiles who exchanged photos and videos of violence committed against their own sons and daughters and other children,” Italian police said.
The gang’s activities included the production and distribution of child pornography and abuse of children. Abuse was filmed and broadcast in “real time” over the Internet, police said.
The investigation began in Sweden more than a year ago but rapidly broadened to other countries. Europol, based in The Hague, the Netherlands, coordinated the operation involving 12 countries, including the United States, Canada and Switzerland.

Two years later, in July 2004, police in the Ukraine raided a porn operation that involved more than a thousand underage girls:

Police said the agency had attracted around 1,500 girls aged from eight to 16 to their offices in the capital Kiev, Kharkiv in the east and Simferopol in the south.
“The pictures (of the girls) were then sent to the United States and Canada via Internet channels,” Yarema said.
Police also froze the bank accounts of the agency, which earned “hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars” in the past three years.

Another big raid came in March 2006:

Federal and international authorities have charged 27 people in nine states and three other countries in connection with an Internet child pornography ring that federal authorities say is one of the worst they have discovered.
“The behavior in these chat rooms and the images many of these defendants sent around the world through peer-to-peer file-sharing programs and private instant messaging services are the worst imaginable forms of child pornography,” Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales said at a news conference in Chicago, where the indictments were announced Wednesday.
Federal and state charges, including the manufacture, possession and distribution of child pornography, have been filed against 13 people in Illinois, Tennessee, Michigan, Nevada, Florida, New York, Arizona, Hawaii and North Carolina. Charges have also been brought against 14 defendants in Canada, Australia and Britain.

These are just a few examples from the worldwide crackdown on child pornography. But they didn’t nab all the perverts, of course, which means there are still a lot of creeps out there who remember the Bush era bitterly as “When The Good Stuff Went Away.”

Troll Psychology: Monsters on the Internet

Does this explain some of the otherwise inexplicable rage reactions one encounters among Internet trolls? Are some of these people vindictively lashing out at conservatives online as proxies for “Religious Right” forces the perverts blame for the stigmatization of their addictive cravings and the Bush-era crackdown that deprived them of their online fix? Perhaps you remember this case:

The classic example of the troll mentality was Michael Brutsch, a.k.a. Violentacrez, the notorious “jailbait” troll on Reddit.
In the free-for-all environment which the proprietors of Reddit seemingly encouraged, Violentacrez’s domineering id-monster act flourished. There were no limits he would not transgress, no sensibilities he failed to offend, and anyone who tried to get in his way was denounced as a crybaby, a “pussy.” . . .
There are many words to describe Brutsch’s online behavior, but the important word is antisocial — a hostility to rules, a defiance of authority, an unwillingness to cooperate with others. Rules exist for a reason, and if you have a problem understanding why “distributing images of scantily-clad underage girls” is against the rules . . .
Dude, do I even need to finish that sentence?

Let me hasten to add that I have no way of knowing if Violentacrez ever did anything illegal, online or otherwise, but he certainly seemed to have “narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits” and to be “irresponsible and psychologically labile.” IYKWIMAITYD.

“On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog,” as a famous cartoon expressed the way in which the anonymity of the online world enables people to hide behind artificial personas. The company that employed Michael Brutsch as a 49-year-old computer programmer in Texas had no idea he was also “Violentacrez,” the id-monster who presided over an online fiefdom of “jailbait” and “creepshots.” Oops.

The troll’s fear of exposure — someone connecting their Internet alias to their real-life identity — often feeds into a paranoid worldview. Such people typically lash out at scapegoats and express hostility toward law enforcement and other authority figures. Which brings us to another familiar character . . .

John Tiessen is a supporter of the “Anonymous” and “Occupy” movements who made the mistake of attacking the Jester, a hacker who is an avowed enemy of both of those movements. Tiessen falsely claimed to “know” that the Jester is a child molester (which is strange, considering no one even knows who the Jester is) and — surprise! surprise! surprise! — the Jester discovered that John Edward Tiessen pleaded guilty in 1992 to third-degree sexual assault. Tiessen explained his offense in a weird 17-minute YouTube video rant:

“That’s just one of many things that I’m accused of and today I still have a hard time with what I did. I know I’m guilty. . . .
“The coke whore that I picked up promised me a blow job if I gave her coke and then she tried to renege on it, and I said, ‘No, you’re going to do it.’ . . .
“Don’t ostracize people who are coming out of prison. . . .
“I’m a f–king true freedom fighter. . …”

Thanks for the crazytalk, John. And because we have no access to the police report of your 1992 sex offense, we’ll just have to take your word that you were the victim of a lying coke whore who tried to cheat you out of a blow job, rather than guilty of any other category of offense listed under Minnesota Criminal Statute 609.344.

John Edward Tiessen is both a convicted sex offender and a lying Internet troll, but certainly we have no evidence that John Edward Tiessen has any perverse interest in children. The hard drive on his computer may be clean as a whistle, as far as we know.

When You Turn Over the Rock

The point is, we don’t know very much about these characters who pop up on the Internet spewing incoherent rage, but when we find them engaging in such activity in support of an accused sex offender like Kaitlyn Hunt, shouldn’t we be just a wee bit skeptical of their claims that their interest in the case is strictly a matter of being concerned about civil liberties and social justice?

When I encounter a raving lunatic like “Queer Spring 2013” obscenely attacking anyone who criticizes the “Free Kate” movement, certainly I’m suspicious about the source of their vehement fanaticism. We don’t know these people, and we have to judge them based strictly by their online behavior, which is atrocious. And you really never know what you’ll find until you turn over the rock:

CANCUN, Mexico — Mexican authorities have arrested a former university professor who was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list in the resort city of Playa del Carmen.
Prosecutor Gaspar Armando Garcia Torres said Walter Lee Williams, 64, is wanted on charges of sexual exploitation of children and traveling abroad for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children. . . .
The indictment alleges Williams traveled from Los Angeles to the Philippines in January 2011 to engage in sex acts with two 14-year-old boys he met online in 2010, the U.S. Department of Justice said in a statement Monday.
While in the Philippines, Williams allegedly engaged in sex acts with both boys and produced sexually explicit photos of one of the boys. . . .
Until 2011, Williams was a tenured professor at the University of Southern California where his field of study was gender development. Williams was also affiliated with the Buddhist Universal Association of Los Angeles, California, according to the FBI.
“Williams has an extensive history of travel throughout the South East Asia region, specifically the Philippines,” the FBI said. “He has reportedly resided in Indonesia, Polynesia and Thailand.”

The professor’s “field of study was gender development,” and I suppose banging 14-year-old boys could be considered “research,” eh?

Just another typical Democrat on his way to federal prison. And speaking of going to prison for sex with 14-year-olds . . .

We know quit a bit about Kate Hunt.  She comes from a family who doesn’t appear to practice impulse control. . . .
Their vocal supporters who appear to stop at nothing to attempt to prevent anyone from speaking out on the situation are either friends, family members, or a small group of individuals . . . [who] are not of the most savory character types.

Is everyone who supports Kaitlyn Hunt also a perverted degenerate? No. Some of them are just crazy. And some are just liberals.

But I repeat myself . . .

 

 


Comments

163 Responses to “Perverts, Degenerates and Sociopaths”

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    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:41 am

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  2. TeddGraham
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:11 am

    Perverts, Degenerates and Sociopaths http://t.co/MiTSKY0N1v

  3. Dandapani
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:15 am

    I had the same reaction. She has to live with her poor decisions about this “stranger” who befriended her and her daughter. But the blame falls squarely on the perp. I hope the authorities make the mistake of putting him in general population. Inmates hate child killers.

  4. SDN
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:16 am

    Jeff Goldstein over at proteinwisdom.com has been working this angle for over 10 years. Check him out.

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    RT @jmattbarber: “@rsmccain: Perverts, Degenerates and Sociopaths http://t.co/chry87D4x7 DON’T #FreeKate”

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  7. Pathfinder's wife
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 8:41 am

    Most of the information isn’t even really gathered. It’s white noise. Until something “blips” on the radar, and even then most of it is discounted…but then there are the ones that really ring some bells; those get your attention (or should) and then we get into the realm of reasonable/unreasonable, because we aren’t talking about your phone conversations to Aunt Mabel or your hunting buddy and those conversations are indeed out there and what they are about is pretty damn nasty and I wonder then if you would consider it unreasonable (by the way, it does involve a lot more than just listening in)…I tend to go with the Batman scenario here: the balance between citizen rights vs. citizen safety. It’s a tough call, and I can’t just rest on my laurels of idealism when it could mean the difference between people being destroyed (in the physical sense) or not. While I’m not thrilled with the idea of spying on my countrymen, nevertheless I could not look victims or their loved ones in the face without blinking if I knew I could have done something to stop it, capice?

    Now, that brings us back to making sure people are sane, ethical, and competent, because insofar as stopping this tech…not going to happen (I’m amazed that people who state that they don’t trust gov’t. would then turn around and work from the assumption that gov’t. can be trusted to stop doing something once you tell them not to — like they pinkie swear or something). Of course, hanging on the words of Edward Snowden is probably not a good idea either (don’t you think that if China is protecting his worthless arse that he is naming some names of our people? you want to trust somebody like that?).

    I didn’t know moles were such loveable creatures.

  8. Pablo
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 8:57 am

    And once upon a time, it was extremely popular. Now, it seems that mentioning that the Emperor’s wrinkly nutsack is flapping in the breeze is unhelpful, and embarrassing to the good and proper set.

  9. Pathfinder's wife
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 8:57 am

    Because 1) people are operating on the supposition made from listening to a traitor which is causing them to make judgements from paranoia rather than reason (honestly, the majority of Americans do not have “files” or “dossiers” kept on them, not in the strictest sense, of course this is electronic media so it can to some extent be called back up but the majority of it isn’t even noted due to the sheer amounts — there are too many people and they really aren’t that interesting, you’re still pretty free to do whatever you want to (let’s keep it that way of course)…besides, the tech is already here, it’s been here for a while; do you think it’s going away? it just “is” so might as well get used to it — you’ve been living under it for a very long time — seriously, the stuff has just gotten easier but listening in on people has been around for a long time); 2) because people are operating from paranoia rather than reason and are also operating from the fallacy that this somehow affects just good, decent, patriotic Americans (and this is a big one — nobody should read my stuff! well, ok, but what if you were plotting to shoot up the main gate of an Army post, or blow up a football stadium, or hold a bunch of preschoolers hostage, or sell hardcore S&M of some 12 yos.? — would it be unreasonable to listen in to you then if it stopped such things? or are you ok with that as long as it doesn’t affect you and keeps your ideals?), and from the naive notion that if they say so it will stop they are rather missing the boat imhao…and I would appreciate it if you did not miss the boat.

  10. Pablo
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 9:03 am

    well, ok, but what if you were plotting to shoot up the main gate of an
    Army post, or blow up a football stadium, or hold a bunch of
    preschoolers hostage, or sell hardcore S&M of some 12 yos.?

    Well, since the government doesn’t have the resources to monitor everyone’s every move, why don’t you open up all of your comms to the rest of us so we can rifle through them and keep an eye on you to make sure you’re on the straight and narrow? After all, lives are at stake! Do it For The Children™!

    Just go ahead and post you IP address, activate remote login and give us the password, k? We’ll have a keylogger running in no time.

  11. Pathfinder's wife
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 9:22 am

    I think this goes back to what I was saying about making sure that the people who have access to the info have a passing acquaintance with sanity, ethics, and competence.

    Prism is just, from what I gather, a newer generation of Pinwale and other sigint systems — that barn door opened a long time ago, and it is a fine line to walk, but walk it we must because it’s there. Better make sure that it’s used for appropriate, rather than inappropriate things…by any administration…going forward. So, I don’t think Mr. Snowden and his “revelations” are the thing that should necessarily be focused on. (to the best of ability — there are no guarantees with anything, of course)

  12. Pablo
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 9:27 am

    I think this goes back to what I was saying about making sure that the
    people who have access to the info have a passing acquaintance with
    sanity, ethics, and competence.

    That expectation has proven to be unrealistic. Such massive amounts of data are extremely valuable. If you’re trusting the federal government and those whom it employs to forever forsake the advantages that could be gained from exploiting such data, you are simply not paying attention.

    Ever notice how everyone Obama has run against has had private, supposedly protected information blasted across the news media or leaked to loyal attack groups?

  13. Dana
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 9:28 am

    Anecdotally, of course — it seems as though it’s always anecdotal — two more men were arrested in Pennsylvania on child pornography charges, in another of the seemingly once every week or so stories about child porn arrests.

    ‘Twon’t be long before we’re being told that pedophilia and hebephilia and ephebophilia just “different orientations,” and that we shouldn’t regard them as real crimes, don’t you know? Or, as Roman Polanski — whom Whoopi Goldberg defended as not having committed “rape-rape” — put it, “everyone wants to f*** young girls!

  14. keyboard jockey
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 9:32 am

    Some of it is unhinged leftys, but look how many of them jumped ship when they found out the mother was lying to them. I think it has also attracted the pedo’s to come out of the shadows. This has a lot to do with their fantasy about lowering the age of consent or getting rid of it altogether.

    They seem to be under a misconception that this administration is more lenient with their kind than the last administration. It get’s reported in the news when Eric Holder rolls up these online pedo groups. I just wonder if this is a beneficial side effect of the NSA program?

    Manning (transgendered?), Assange (sexual assault Sweden) and Snowden (bragged about teenage sex marathons) all appear to have a common denominator when it comes to what is reported about their sex lives. Now wikileaks is assisting Snowden’s trip to Moscow.

    All I am really stating is that I see a nexus between the NSA program, and who is objecting the loudest to what Edward Snowden is claiming. Remember Edward Snowden mentioned Manning by name and called him a whistle blower.

  15. keyboard jockey
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 9:56 am

    Pedophile’s have been trying to sell child sexual abuse as normal like forever . Have you found any states that have changed their laws to indulge them? In fact lawmakers passed a federal law that US citizen’s can be arrested for child sexual abuse in foreign countries, and tried in US courts.

  16. RhymesWithRight
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 10:17 am

    Well said, my friend.

  17. Scribe of Slog (McGehee)
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 11:13 am

    This argument — that pedophiles are so rare that only “hysterics” worry about them

    There are smartphone apps that can show where registered sex offenders live. While many are registered for offenses NOT involving minors, when you find one of those after all the incests and molestations, it’s almost refreshing.

    And those are just the ones who got caught.

  18. Scribe of Slog (McGehee)
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 11:23 am

    “On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog,” as a famous cartoon expressed the way in which the anonymity of the online world enables people to hide behind artificial personas.

    The trouble with personas is that the underlying character of all of them will be the same. I’ve concluded that once somebody starts sniffing crotches and humping legs, they’ve outed themselves.

    It’s only ever a matter of time.

  19. Pathfinder's wife
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 11:31 am

    My darling, I already operate from the standpoint that nothing I say or do is really that much of a secret — it hasn’t been for the entirety of my life (once I got birthed into this world and had a medical record and a SS# I was pretty much trackable, along with everybody else — with the advent of wireless and internet tech being available to the public pretty much assured that anything on there would be tracked, after all it would have been foolish not to suppose that, considering the history of such things and their development), I suppose you can have my IP address if you really want it — I’m afraid the results will likely bore (much like yours would I have no doubt).
    Now of course…if you were to use that information to stalk and harass my family…then we have a problem . If I’m plotting on doing something criminal or treasonous, the harming of innocents, a danger to the public of some kind…well, then fair enough, I’d think that perhaps you could not be blamed for thinking it reasonable to track me down. After all, I would be up to no good, and it’s very hard to criticize someone who wants to stop or catch somebody up to no good — it isn’t cut and dried.
    But the problem then goes down to what one does with the information — because it’s already out there (and really, you wouldn’t need for me to post my IP address: even back in the day it would have been easy enough to track/plot my movements just off my driver’s license, checking accounts, or the like…a little bit more difficult and slower, but if you really wanted to, you could get the job done)

  20. Pablo
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 11:46 am

    If you’re plotting and scheming to do something untoward, then the authorities can get a frigging warrant. Outside of that, they have no business in my comms or yours. That such data is accessible to other entities is irrelevant. They don’t naturally have it and they have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to it. It is explicitly forbidden to them by the 4th Amendment.

    If everyone decides that shouldn’t apply anymore, then let’s all vote on an Amendment. We cannot simply ignore it because that’s convenient for our Betters and Protectors.

  21. Pathfinder's wife
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 11:54 am

    That’s why I qualified with try to make sure (not “make sure” just try; there are no guarantees) that the people you elect have at least a tiny passing acquaintance with ethics, sanity, and competence…and realize that there are no guarantees. Using privy knowledge to political advantage is hardly anything new, so just operate from the standpoint that it’s possible and won’t be going away no matter how much you might wish it to. (and anyone who pinkie swears to you otherwise and/or acts like this condition isn’t operative or will no longer be operative is either a fool, a liar, or both…judge them accordingly as you will there)

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  23. MrEvilMatt
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 12:12 pm

    RT @rsmccain: Perverts, Degenerates and Sociopaths http://t.co/9OIAuZGRvA DON’T #FreeKate

  24. Garym
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

    you’re not saying he has a sock puppet are you?

  25. keyboard jockey
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 1:15 pm

    If pedophilia was really rare as the author claims there wouldn’t be a national sex offender registry to address their recidivism rate. Besides counting the convicted sex offender, it’s necessary to count their victims, it’s not a ratio of 1-1. And the high rate at which they re offend. The pedophile is basically complaining about being turned into a social pariah which they have earned by their criminal behavior.

    The pedophile population was surveyed after Jessica Lunsford’s rape and murder. The 3 states with the largest populations. Florida, California, and Texas.

  26. archonix
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 1:45 pm

    Do you have curtains on your windows? I mean nobody’s really interested in what happens inside your house, right? It’s just the same boring, mundane stuff that everyone else does in their own homes all over the world.

    So why hide it? Why have curtains, and doors that lock, and windows that block sound? If you have nothing to hide, why are you hiding?

  27. DaveO
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 2:53 pm

    If one uses the tools of information technology, there is no privacy. Whatever you type lives forever. Your ISP is required, by law, to maintain your data. Companies you do business with also sell your information. Same goes for companies who issue you a credit card. If you do business with Walmart, or any other corporation that uses business intelligence, you are well known. Any agency, many countries and several countries are doing the same thing as the NSA. What does the 4th Amendment have to with their activities?

    Privacy isn’t the issue because the technology destroys Privacy. The problem isn’t law enforcement. With over 4,000 laws and 10,000 regulations that make all of us felons at any given time, getting a warrant is criminally easy.

    With any tool, real, no sh*t evil people are using the internet-based tools to facilitate their evil. Evil is smart, and Evil votes. Perverts, Degenerate and Sociopaths hide their activities behind the Constitution (freedom of association, of speech, of commerce), and Patriots are put in the odious position of defending them because Democrats are all too eager to use law enforcement to suppress and oppress.

    And that’s the real problem. Caught between 2 evils, Patriotic Americans must defend Perverts, Degenerates, and Sociopaths.

  28. RS
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 2:54 pm

    What’s fascinating and somewhat disturbing about this discussion and the points of view, is the apparent willingness on the part of some, to give up portions of their personal autonomy and liberty in exchange for a promise of some sort of ephemeral security. Alas, those of us who question the intrusiveness of our current government, who realize that the apparatus of surveillance can/will inevitably be used by evil people, who just desire to be left alone to pursue happiness as promised in the Declaration of Independence, become labeled in classic ad hominem fashion as “enablers” for all manner of bad things, from terrorism to child pornography. Know this: perfect security means the police can bust into your house at 3:00 AM to search for contraband, too. If you don’t have any, well, no harm,no foul. You can’t object, because you didn’t have anything to hide.

  29. RS
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 3:30 pm

    My quibble with your final paragraph, is that Patriotic Americans do not defend the evil you mention. Rather, we defend the Constitution and our unalienable rights, knowing that that means that some bad people will get off scott free in this life. It is a classic risk benefit analysis and some of us would rather risk the detriments of liberty in order to preserve that liberty for our children.

  30. JeffWeimer
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 3:37 pm
  31. bet0001970
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 4:10 pm

    Holy crap! That is the funniest shit ever. He deserves his own page on Encyclopedia Dramatica. The four pillars. WTF???

  32. archer52
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 4:13 pm

    Be careful with the Liar and thief comments. Often crime is in the eyes of the authorities. MLK was a liar and worse to many who like things the way they were, not the way MLK wanted them to be.

    The issue isn’t Snowden, as much as the Obama/NSA people would like it to be. There have been a lot of people who have come forward about the problem in the NSA only to be labeled traitors and harassed by the government.

    This is about privacy. And frankly if the pedos post the stuff on the open net and get caught that’s on them. Its a crime and should be- regardless of how Britain is now arguing differently.

    But you and I talking about how screwed up Obama’s admin is in a private email is not a crime and shouldn’t be swept up and kept for any reason- including building historical cases when someday someone changes the law and makes it a crime.

    That’s the difference.

  33. Richard McEnroe
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 4:34 pm

    I don’t know if you need an “app”. In the two high schools I attended, most of the kids could tell you who the ‘creepy” teachers were.

  34. DaveO
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 4:38 pm

    Think you just proved my final paragraph. One can either defend liberty, from which evil folks will profit, or give up liberty, from which other evil folks will profit.

  35. Richard McEnroe
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 4:43 pm

    Again, the govt has ADMITTED THEY’RE DOING THIS and more instances from more agencies are coming to light every day. It’s not paranoia to acknowledge an offense that has been proven to be committed.

    ‘What if?” simply doesn’t cut it. By the what-if rule, a cop has the right to come and sit at your dinner table and listen to your family’s conversation. After all, WHAT IF one of you is up to something. By the what-if rule, a school district has the right to keep your kid’s laptop cam live at home– oh wait, can’t count that, IT ALREADY HAPPENED.

    What-if is right down there with well-if-you-have-nothing-to-hide-you-shouldn’t-worry as the most dishonest, self-serving rationale of the information age.

  36. bet0001970
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 5:43 pm

    Nobody is buying what you’re selling. And I would change that name of yours if I were you. The NSA really does hate advertising. Sort of hypocritical to be whining about moles, all things considered. But hey, if you want to give me your IP address, I’ll be happy to run all of your posts by your security office and your supervisors. I’m sure they would love to know the kind of information you’re putting out there on your off-time.

    Or is this being posted on a government computer? I’m sure McCain might be interested in finding out whether or not his patrons are being spied on by the feds.

    Anyway, have a nice day!

  37. Bob Belvedere
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:01 pm

    I agree – draw and quarter the bastard [I’ll bring the rope] – but the mother’s actions were those of a moron.

  38. Bob Belvedere
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

    This is all, ultimately, the result of the Left’s successful campaign to get us to embrace Relativity – to reject Absolute Truth and God. When those two things are rejected, everything is, ultimately, permissible.

  39. Bob Belvedere
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:09 pm

    What SDN wrote. This is Jeff’s main area of expertise and he is one of the best thinkers on the subject I have ever read. Of course, in this Age Of The Leftist Hegemony, that makes him an outcast, even to The Beautiful People On The Right. Jeff is an Outlaw – a term he has embraced [as have many of us].

  40. Bob Belvedere
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:12 pm

    Pardon my French: but, yeah…well…fuck them.

  41. Bob Belvedere
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:20 pm

    This will not last long [although I do believe it will be harder for this part of the Leftist program to succeed for obvious reasons].
    Recall that some four to five decades ago Homosexuality was a prosecuted crime in most states. Then we were worn down over the ensuing decades to the point where Homosexuals are celebrated everywhere, especcially in the popular arts and many otherwise Common Sensical people are okay with ‘same-sex marriage’.
    Getting back to the subject at hand: our children are getting sexualized at earlier and earlier ages these days. If the Left has it’s way, Age Of Consent Laws will be abolished. They’re pretty patient.

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  43. keyboard jockey
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 6:57 pm

    Yes it’s clear they need the age of consent lowered to break up the nuclear family- no need for parental consent for anything, like I don’t know the plan B pill for instance (that’s the end game) it’s not brain surgery what they are about. The more the state grows the more morality shrinks. This isn’t the first time that human beings have been through this cycle. The dark ages and the power of the church state. I am just hoping this internet thingy gives us the edge this time- mass communication could help interrupt their plans for western civilization.

  44. BredRightAndTrue
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:13 pm

    If I read your screed correctly, you have accused those of us who desire to protect and defend our liberties of simply being paranoid. Furthermore, you have concluded that our concerns warrant our reasoning and judgment being called into question because, heck, “[we’re] still pretty free” and “[we] might as well get used to it.”

    Well. . . with that kind of roll-over-and-take-it mentality, the powers-that-be most certainly have all of the leeway and cover they need to continue eroding our constitutional liberties unmolested. I’m sure they appreciate the commitment to the cause.

    And, for those of us paying attention, we are NOT “operating on the supposition made from listening to a traitor.” There is no further need to listen to Snowden considering our very own “benevolent” government has very much admitted to partaking in the unconstitutional activities outlined in Snowden’s claims. Moreso, they are unashamed and unyielding in their promises for more of the same.  

    Fortunately, there still remains a vast number of true patriots who would prefer to live under dangerous freedom than to live under peaceful surveillance any day. Unfortunately, those of us committed to live as free men and women not only find ourselves fighting against unrelenting tyranny, we too must fight against the misguided who actually believe their “benevolent” government is in any position to keep them safe in the first place (see: 911, Fort Hood, Boston Bombings, et al). 

    It’s come to this. . . never-ending battles to defend our Constitutional liberties not only against those who spit upon their oaths and run roughshod over our freedoms, but also against those who so easily relinquish their liberties without question for an illusion of protection and safety. “Get used to it” should be met with swift and unabated resistance at every turn courtesy of those who still desire to preserve our God-given rights. 

    As bet touched upon above: You can continue to willingly surrender all of YOUR liberties until the cows come home, however, you have no right to sacrifice MY liberties in the process. 

    Khrushchev must be grinning ear-to-ear from the bowels of Hell. With such a compliant and unquestioning citizenry–America could very well be buried without a single shot being fired. 

  45. RS
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:22 pm

    My quibble was with couching the defense as being of criminals. It’s not. And criminals are not the only one’s who profit. We all do. As I’m fond of pointing out, the person who cries the loudest about things like 4th Amendment “technicalities” also cry the loudest if they encounter an “unfair” speed trap. Otherwise, I agree with you completely.
    (And BTW, Snowden and his ilk are completely irrelevant to the topic, regardless of whether he is a traitor or a hero.)

  46. jamiedelton
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:27 pm

    RT @kjcopp: Kudos to “@rsmccain: Perverts, Degenerates and Sociopaths http://t.co/M9M1WFV4E1 DON’T #FreeKate
    #Truth

  47. BredRightAndTrue
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:30 pm

    And, how precisely would you suggest that we ensure “that the people who have access to the info have a passing acquaintance with sanity, ethics, and competence?”

    Last I checked we had politicians who ran as border-enforcement hawks only to find post elections they are truly dangerous, pro-amnesty hacks. I, too, happen to recall an alphabet agency, with both hired and appointed employees, targeting fellow Americans for their faith and ideologies.

    So, whether elected, hired, contracted, or appointed we, as a nation, don’t seem to be doing so hot with the sane, ethical, and competent thingy.

    Wow. One would almost have to come to conclusion that anything short of strict adherence to the US Constitution is pretty much a bust.

  48. Dandapani
    June 23rd, 2013 @ 7:36 pm

    I think charges of child neglect and endangerment are appropriate for the mother.

  49. Pathfinder's wife
    June 24th, 2013 @ 6:09 am

    Well, first they have to catch wind that you are plotting and scheming; they have to have a reason for a warrant…which does mean some crimes and terrorism is kinda hard to prove, sometimes beyond the plotting and scheming and into the doing it phase. And that just covers pedobears and boomies…there’s other things.

    But if you’d prefer we flew completely in the dark (and please don’t think that the spy world stays static: as has recently come to light, we actually have less of a surveillance than a lot of other countries, who are listening in on us; nor do terrrorists and criminals stay with the same old, same old either — it’s the one of the biggest arms races in the world, the secret squirrel war is, and it never stops, never has) so you don’t get the willies about some secret squirrel laughing at your diaper porn collection…well, ok, that probably is worth keeping quiet.

  50. Pathfinder's wife
    June 24th, 2013 @ 6:13 am

    Actually, I don’t have curtains on all my windows…and the ones that I do it’s to protect the public from a sight that might be harmful to them;)

    And I’m not hiding — and this is really a lame attempt.

    What are some of you so worried that they’ll find on you? I mean, dang, are you guys really that important yourselves? Not plotting anything now are we??

    See how ridiculous this gets?