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#EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax?

Posted on | June 13, 2014 | 51 Comments

And does it matter?

Because I routinely check the #fem2 and #radfem hashtags, I noticed the #EndFathersDay hashtag early this morning and also noticed that some people called it a hoax by the gamer/hacker types at 4chan. But the hashtag was adopted by some actual feminists, who see it as a logical extension of the #YesAllWomen campaign — i.e., universal collective female victimhood, with all men as violent patriarchal oppressors — which therefore demonstrates how it is impossible to parody radical feminism.

Adrienne Rich, Mary Daly, Dee Graham — feminists have spent decades following the radical logic of their anti-male ideology to its obvious lesbian conclusion. The amazing thing is that in 2014 there are still heterosexual women who dare to call themselves “feminists.”

Because of the hegemonic influence of feminism among the intelligentsia, however, few college-educated women are willing to speak out against feminism, per se, so that many women who live non-feminist lives nevertheless think of themselves as “feminists,” but are shocked when they encounter actual feminist ideology. This was why so many people were astonished by Radical Wind’s declaration, “PIV is always rape, OK?” — a belief entirely consistent with radical feminism’s anti-male, anti-heterosexual doctrine,taught in Women’s Studies course everywhere, but usually concealed from the general public.

The logic that PIV (penis-in-vagina, i.e., heterosexual intercourse) is “always rape” derives from feminism’s Marxist origins, wherein women as a “sex caste” are collectively exploited and oppressed by men. (Friedrich Engels himself was the first to assert this in The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State.) The Women’s Liberation movement of the 1960s and ’70s (so-called “Second Wave” feminism) began among women allied to SDS and the anti-war movement, many of whom were “Red Diaper babies” and, having grown up within the Communist millieu, eagerly applied Marxist-Leninist doctrine to women’s second-class status within the male-dominated New Left. Any bibliography of classic Women’s Liberation literature must include radical lesbian authors who understood that rejecting “male supremacy” required a rejection of heterosexuality. Yet between the career ambitions of female journalists like Gloria Steinem (who saw the “feminist” label as a ticket to fame and fortune) and the political ambitions of activists who craved “mainstream” influence, the meaning of feminism has been deliberately obscured so that nowadays “feminism” is whatever any woman wants to claim it to be.

Always, however, anyone who takes feminism seriously — either as a supporter or opponent of the movement — must ultimately understand that an ideology based on implacable hostility toward men is incompatible with any normal woman’s life of heterosexual love, marriage and motherhood. Do we have to wonder why Shulamith Firestone, author of the seminal 1970 feminist text The Dialectic of Sex, died a lonely schizophrenic? Was she a victim of the patriarchy (as feminists would have us believe) or was she a victim of feminism?

When feminists speak of “patriarchy,” “male dominance” and “rape culture,” they are not merely complaining of specific abuses by specific men, but are rather indicting all men as violent oppressors of all women. Because all men are thereby implicated in these patriarchal atrocities, it is impossible for any feminist to accept any male as an ally, so that feminists must not only reject heterosexuality, but must also condemn their own fathers as complicit in the oppression of women. Or at least, this is what feminists must do if they understand the logic of their own anti-male rhetoric. But logic and feminism have never really been compatible, and so we are required to accept intellectual incoherence as the essential expression of women’s identity.




 

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51 Responses to “#EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax?”

  1. LeatherPenguin
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:33 pm

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  3. commonpatriot
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

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  4. MrEvilMatt
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

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  5. CHideout
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

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  6. Citzcom
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

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  7. Lockestep1776
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

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  8. WeRResistance
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

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  9. rsmccain
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:44 pm

    #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  10. g56yu
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:46 pm

    RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  11. varadmehta
    June 13th, 2014 @ 2:48 pm

    Always hard to tell. RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/vbRtBGyrU9 #tcot

  12. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:10 pm

    I have never met a Rabid Feminist that didn’t have Daddy and Mommy issues… Say do you think there is a correlation?

  13. Josh_Painter
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:10 pm

    RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  14. AmPowerBlog
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:12 pm

    RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  15. Cactus Ed
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:14 pm

    Well, I think it’s taken a little rape culture by patriarchal oppressors to get us where we are today.

  16. MichaelAdams
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:22 pm

    I am a home-care nurse who speaks Spanish, so I get assigned to a lot of Spanish-speaking homes. Whatever the GPS might say, I spend forty eight hours a week in Mexico. Standing astride two cultures as I do, I laugh loud and long at these silly Marxists and their prattle about “bourgeois patriarchy.” Mexico is mostly a pre-bourgeois society. There are exceptions, of course, not surprising in a society in transition, but, mostly that sums it up. The women do not quarrel, or even talk back to the men. Even when I know that, by any scientific analysis, the women are correct, the men win the day.

    It seems very clear to me that the roots of bourgeois culture lie in early Christianity, and in the rise of the modern bourgeoisie that we describe as the Protestant Reformation, which saw itself,of course, as attempting to return to the practices of the Early Church. These are also the sources of any sort of gender-equality. Did you ever attend a Baptist business meeting in which women were “silent in church”? Equal voice/equal votes, and I know for a fact that this goes back as far as my great grandmother, a Christian since the age of fourteen, in 1897. It goes back further, of course, by what we can read, but I knew her personally and very well.

    The Communists of today are pretty clearly a throwback to Pagan beliefs and practices, an eternal, and therefore self-created universe, and sex being about dominance, emitters and recipients. The poor Commie girls do like what they see, but are so ensnarled in their ideology that they attribute this horrible state of affairs to the only people who ever offered any alternative. Read a bit of Roman erotic poetry or Greek, for that matter, side-by-side with some of those hook-up blogs, and try to tell them apart.

    All that I can ever say is, “Repent! Salvation is only a heartbeat away.”

  17. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:32 pm

    Early Christianity is the root of “bourgeois” culture? Where did you come up with that? Do you think Babylonian, Egyptian, Gauls, Celts, Germanic Tribes, Roman, Greek, Chinese, Pre-Islamic Arabian and later societies like Mongol, Islamic, etc.., etc. were feminist?

    The truth is early Christianity got many converts because it was better for women than what Roman Empire society had to offer at the time.

  18. Art Deco
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:34 pm

    Shulamith Firestone was a woman with some heavy problems, and the vectors which induced that in her operate apart from one’s cogitations. In her defense, there came a point when she decided she did not want the life of either Gloria Steinem or Kate Millet. She lived a private life and the only injuries she did people were the nuisances her eccentricities caused her landlord and neighbors. (Steinem had an abortion and left a string of discarded men over a period of 40-odd years; IIRC, more than one person in Millet’s orbit said you could taste the crazy when you were around her).

    She might have benefited from someone to look after her, if not living with her than living nearby,. However, her interiors were so odd she might not have appreciated it.

  19. MNHawk
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:38 pm

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    You are the resistance. Queer + black + angry + intersectional feminist + Marxist.
    Follow me and I’ll blow your mind.

    9,377 followers says this delightful, round mound of woman is very real.

  20. Art Deco
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:42 pm

    This has been bruited about before. They either came from ruined backgrounds or they manufactured them (Gloria Steinem was type A, Patricia Ireland type B). One interesting exception was Eleanor Smeal, who supposedly had an unremarkable upbringing and congenial marriage; in her case, it seems to have been her vision of the world (born of chance) and not her experience; she said she joined now because she discovered she was the only woman in her bridge group not on pills.

    One curio along these lines is Bella Abzug. She professed to adore both her father and her husband; she died without any grandchildren because both daughters turned up lesbian.

  21. concern00
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:46 pm

    #NotAllWomen are crazy man hating feminists. Some are (mostly) normal.

  22. concern00
    June 13th, 2014 @ 3:56 pm

    All I see in these feminists is early experiences of pain, hurt and rejection because of their own inability to socialize effectively, learn from poor outcomes and generally fit in with social norms. Then they seek to reshape the world to accommodate their neuroses.

    Progressive education has a lot to answer for…but then again these outcomes are exactly what it strives for. By creating an entire generation of misfits they get the tools to reengineer society towards their own nefarious ends.

    If I had somehow failed to learn the skills to effectively process every episode of personal conflict, social rebuff and bullying from my childhood and early adulthood, I would similarly be a psychotic mess.

  23. Cactus Ed
    June 13th, 2014 @ 4:04 pm

    Feminists have been lying to women for so long that they don’t even know that they’re lying.

  24. Adjoran
    June 13th, 2014 @ 4:07 pm

    My only quarrel with women in general is how they managed to let these sick freaks become their “leaders” and “spokespersons.”

    Of course, there were also some spineless men along the way who agreed to all these nonsense disciplines like “Women’s Studies” and “Ethnic Studies,” and they deserve blame, too.

  25. MichaelAdams
    June 13th, 2014 @ 4:18 pm

    No, Evi, I do not think that they were “feminist”. What I said was that modern “feminists” complain about the resurgent pagan behaviors and attitudes they see in our present society, while scorning the very people who have offered an alternative to that. I just think that women’s equality has roots in Christianity and in Judaism, while most of the cultures you name had a concept of women as property. Those societies also lacked a concept of an individual freeman with inalienable rights. In Persia, for example, and Babylon, for another, everyone who was not the Emperor was a slave of the Emperor. Certainly Rome had people with bourgeois values, set forth pretty well in the “Law of Foreigners.” They were, of course, utterly subservient to the Guardian values of the dominant culture. I heartily recommend “Systems of Survival,” by the late great Jane Jacobs, who was not, so far as I can see, a Christian apologist. Nevertheless, she describes the values of the Commercial Syndrome, (bourgeois values) pretty effectively. Read it, and we can talk.

    Oh, I do not see that I mentioned the roots of Latino culture. Rather, people whose roots are in that culture are, mostly, not bourgeois in outlook, a circumstance which, I did say, is in transition.

  26. rsmccain
    June 13th, 2014 @ 4:40 pm

    RT @varadmehta: Always hard to tell. RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/vbRtBGy…

  27. guest
    June 13th, 2014 @ 4:50 pm

    That feminist fist-in-orifice logo looks #rapey

  28. rsmccain
    June 13th, 2014 @ 4:50 pm

    RT @Citzcom: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax?: And does it matter? Because I routinely … http://t.co/…

  29. Art Deco
    June 13th, 2014 @ 5:04 pm

    No. It’s about seeing that women have options, while men have obligations.

  30. nofixedabode
    June 13th, 2014 @ 5:04 pm

    RT @varadmehta: Always hard to tell. RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/vbRtBGy…

  31. concern00
    June 13th, 2014 @ 5:10 pm

    …and here I was thinking that fisting was primarily a homosexual practice.

  32. Art Deco
    June 13th, 2014 @ 5:14 pm

    Dunno. Patricia Ireland dumped one husband (described as ‘quiet, stable’ IIRC) and cuckolded another in her traipse from farm wife to airline stewardess to corporate lawyer to professional complainer. Doesn’t sound like she didn’t know how to socialize. It suggests she regarded the men around her as disposable accessories.

    Gloria Steinem has no history of divorce. There was a long string of men in her life, including Mortimer Zuckerman (whom I do not imagine was lacking for female company). She just was not abidingly interested in any of them until she was eligible for Social Security.

  33. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 13th, 2014 @ 5:23 pm

    I misread what you said (my apology), I agree, Christianity was the first to deal with women as having rights (Judaism did so too). Those other societies all dealt with them as property.

    Of course “modern” socialist societies are all about “equality” in treating individuals as chattel belonging to the state. What is old is new again.

  34. LiesDestroy
    June 13th, 2014 @ 5:31 pm

    RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  35. Federale86
    June 13th, 2014 @ 7:02 pm

    #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/j04fryf9yn

  36. MaroonedInMarin
    June 13th, 2014 @ 8:14 pm

    RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  37. robertstacymccain
    June 13th, 2014 @ 8:30 pm

    It is perhaps a waste of time to speculate on the etiology of any specific feminist’s grievance against men. The real question is, which comes first, the feminism or the insanity? Eventually, all feminists become insane; or maybe all crazy women eventually become feminists.

  38. rsmccain
    June 13th, 2014 @ 8:45 pm

    RT @Federale86: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/j04fryf9yn

  39. g56yu
    June 13th, 2014 @ 8:45 pm

    RT @Federale86: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/j04fryf9yn

  40. ZillaStevenson
    June 13th, 2014 @ 9:20 pm

    RT @rsmccain: #EndFathersDay: Is This #YesAllWomen Feminism or Another 4Chan Hoax? http://t.co/eSc6eGtbzF #tcot

  41. RS
    June 13th, 2014 @ 10:21 pm

    Spot-on. My own grandmother was the sole representative of a rural Baptist Church to the local county association–in 1922. I truly get a kick out of listening to feminists try to tell me how Baptists oppress women.

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    June 14th, 2014 @ 12:09 am

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  45. Jeanette Victoria
    June 14th, 2014 @ 12:38 am

    The fact that all feminists have fathers must cause all sorts of angst

  46. Matt_SE
    June 14th, 2014 @ 1:12 am

    Many “moderate” feminists won’t criticize RadFem for the same reason many “moderate” Islamics won’t criticize radical Islam: because when they examine the tenets and their logical conclusions, the “moderates” know they don’t have a leg to stand on.

    Islam requires jihad.
    RadFem requires lesbianism and man-hating.

  47. Matt_SE
    June 14th, 2014 @ 1:14 am

    These men are dhimmi.

  48. Jeanette Victoria
    June 14th, 2014 @ 9:06 am

    Women have always had choices I rmember the early day of feminism and the rallies. It really was all abut hating men and creating lesbians. I saw many happy marriages break up and the women become butch lesbians.

  49. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 14th, 2014 @ 9:39 am

    It’s genetics! Fortunately they tend to frown on breeding or they would overwhelm us like a zombie apocalypse

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