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Sexual Disorientation, Part II

Posted on | February 21, 2015 | 67 Comments

Caitlin Stasey, second from right, as a child star in ‘The Sleepover Club’

Caitlin Stasey (@caitlinstasey) is a former child star who has gotten widespread attention for her feminist website Herself.com.

In her own profile at the site, Ms. Stasey described having “vivid dreams about other women” as an adolescent, “masturbating in secret,” saying she has “known I was mostly gay ever since I can remember” and calls herself a lesbian, even though she currently has “a male partner,” another former child star named Lucas Neff.

Given the high-profile problems of so many former child performers — including Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Bynes — it is certainly reasonable to wonder if these psychiatric disorders are actually caused by such abnormal childhood experiences of “growing up in the spotlight.” On the other hand, it might just be that we notice these meltdowns more than we do the struggles of other young people. If I had been a teenage celebrity? The tabloids would have had a field day with my adolescent “struggles” (although I don’t think diving headfirst into trouble could be considered “struggling”). A couple of weeks ago, I addressed the problems Ms. Stasey described:

Growing up in a sex-obsessed society seems to be a profoundly frightening experience for many girls nowadays. The decline of marriage and the destruction of moral norms are part of a cultural syndrome that produces what I have called “a sort of social epidemic of bipolar hysteria, in which minds unmoored from cultural tradition constantly shift between utter confusion and radical certainty.”

In terms of documenting this cultural syndrome, Ms. Casey’s website has continued (however accidentally) to do interesting work. Her declared purpose is to advance a feminist agenda, but if you have any knowledge of psychology, it’s just as easy to see feminism as part of the problem described by the women profiled at Herself.com. Here are quotes from two recent interviews at the site:

“I started masturbating at quite a young age but never really understood what was going on . . . Having issues with mental health, I’ve very much struggled with the importance of emotions and feelings. Having Borderline Personality Disorder often equates you with being ‘bad’ in the eyes of health professionals, and it is most commonly diagnosed in women, so understanding that my feelings are valid is a bit of a challenge. . . . Being sexually fluid and more interested in girls, I didn’t learn anything at all about that, and am still figuring it out.”
— LJ, Australia

“I suffered from Borderline Personality Disorder with Major Depression, suicidality, self harm and a fairly antisocial outlook. . . . My mother caught me masturbating when I was around seven years old . . . but I knew that I wasn’t going to stop, just be more clever about where and when I’d do it! . . . Sex used to literally run my life. I was insatiable, constantly seeking the ultimate in sexual experiences. Much of it was very cerebral in nature, involving role play and complex set ups with bondage and corporal punishment.”
— Laura, Canada

What are the odds that, of the first 12 women interviewed by Herself.com, two would be diagnosed with the same mental illness, and that both of them would describe early experiences with masturbation as formative in the development of their sexuality? Is this coincidental or has Caitlin Stasey accidentally stumbled onto a pattern, a psychological syndrome, which might be worth studying from a mental health perspective, if only we could get feminists to stop hectoring us with ideological rants about how women are being victimized by heteronormative patriarchy?

“The personal is political,” feminists have been telling us for decades, but politics is a poor substitute for psychiatric therapy.

UPDATE: Really, you need to read this interview with Caitlin Stasey:

In high school, when boys started to sleep with other girls, these girls’ burgeoning sexuality wasn’t an exciting thing to be explored. It was a shameful secret you lie to people about because people would make fun of you. They would verbally abuse you for it. The men you chose to share this thing with would tell all of their friends and then their friends would treat you like sh*t. It became a really toxic environment and I just didn’t like the way it was heading. I wish I’d had the tools by then to equip myself against those insults and arguments. I didn’t know what to do. It just really hurt.
So I became a feminist, really, out of a desire to not feel sh*tty about myself. Also because I’ve been sexually attracted to women for as long as I’ve known. Growing up in a Catholic education system and going to an all-girls Catholic school at one point, I felt like I was sick. Like there was something wrong with me. None of the girls in my circle reflected that back to me. It was always like, if someone came out as a lesbian, they became the object of ridicule. I hated it. . . .
I had no point of reference… nothing I was watching looked like anything I recognized within myself. There were never any young women or young boys falling in love with each other or anything other than heteronormative relationships, really.

You can read the whole thing, but what I see is a young woman who grew up extremely self-conscious, fearful of men and normal sexuality, trapped by feelings of shame about her female body. These are very common problems you see manifested in the rhetoric of feminists, but the problems they describe are not actually political. You can’t organize a political movement based on “Boys Were Mean to Me in High School” and expect to be taken seriously. Yet this is what feminists have done, and Ms. Stasey’s effort to stigmatize normal sexuality — because she was oppressed by the depiction of “heternormative relationships” in media — is exactly what you would expect when crazy people obtain an ideological platform from which to dictate their own agenda to the rest of us.

UPDATE II: Some things are predictable.

Anyone could have predicted this endgame as early as 1970.





 

Category: Feminism, Sex Trouble

Comments

67 Responses to “Sexual Disorientation, Part II”

  1. Adobe_Walls
    February 21st, 2015 @ 8:19 am

    I think the problem is sanity just isn’t hip anymore. Being a functioning nutjob even if only barely gets one attention. I gather the borderline in borderline personality disorder means difficult to commit involuntarily.

  2. Fail Burton
    February 21st, 2015 @ 8:26 am

    Gender feminism is purpose built as a one-size-fits-all ideology for women with mental heath issues. It doesn’t help they are not generally very bright people. They have plenty of education but routinely lack insight into the world around them. To the contrary, they seem to be slaves to confirmation bias.

    I was just reading I Am Your Sister, which is a collection of published and unpublished writings by Audre Lorde and it’s pretty plain she’s not a very interesting person as an intellectual. It’s just as clear her fame was based entirely on some empathy factor combined with a talent for endless complaint, which pretty much sums up intersectional gender abolition feminism.

    The problem is that at some point you have to walk it like you talk it, but gender feminists don’t really produce anything; they just talk about that happening at some point. They don’t even do anything really. I could at least respect a lesbian town created in the Bolivian jungle with Axlotl Tanks to produce kids. But this endless whining on what is by their own definition my dime is boring. It’s my dime because if I have to take it on the chin for all the bad stuff men do then that mean I get credit for all the good, and that unfortunately outnumbers the accomplishments of feminists by a score of all of reality to zero.

    The fact is valuing identity over principle is an intellectual crippler, which is a thing social justice warriors in general don’t get. They get it when it comes to how one must fix a car engine or who can do that but if it’s anything the least abstract the screws come off. That’s why gay and racialized literature is so routinely dull. Not only does it have no faith in the human spirit but it has no faith in the idea of shared human failure and success. Being that kind of dumb won’t create art.

  3. DavidD
    February 21st, 2015 @ 8:39 am

    “Mostly gay.”

    Is that like “a little bit pregnant”?

  4. kilo6
    February 21st, 2015 @ 8:49 am

    I posted Ms. Stasey’s personal quotes from IMDB on the earlier thread, it’s interesting

    I’m really just looking forward to the day when a woman’s orgasm isn’t scary.

    We are the fairer sex. We are pure. We are not earthly creatures… And I think to put us in the midst of all of it, to see that we are in fact just as sexually driven as men, is kind of
    confronting. Also the fact that we are largely, nowadays, not reliant on men to provide pleasure for us.

    and from the Vice article linked in the post…

    … We’ve got a long way to go before we start treating women’s sexual and reproductive functions as seriously as we treat men’s. Viagra is covered by so many health plans in the US, but they don’t cover Plan B or some contraceptives. There’s a constant gender divide in all aspects of our community. It’s fucking awful.

    Reading these quotes as well as her other material it seems that she believes the primary purpose of human existence is orgasm, all other aspects take a back seat.

    also from the Vicearticle…

    You never see pictures of naked women without them being sexualized. I’ve been used to seeing graphic depictions of violence all my life, but never of non-sexualized imagery of breasts or vaginas. Women are never just naked.

    I’m not sure if she’s really never seen any of the naked women in the art on display at The Louvre and elsewhere or if she has and is interpreting those works of art in light of feminism and some appeal to novelty regarding things painted by Teh Patriarchy.
    Anyhow, you can’t reason someone out of a position that they didn’t reason themselves into. In light of that axiom I believe Ms. Stasey’s future may be similar to that of other notable feminists, the ersatz martyrdom of willful self destruction in the name of “empowerment”.

  5. robertstacymccain
    February 21st, 2015 @ 9:17 am

    The problem can be summarized in a single word: Equality.

    Men and women are not “equal” and will never be “equal” because they are different, and the differences are socially significant. Trying to force people to behave as if male-female differences don’t matter will not produce “equality,” it will only produce confusion. What feminists have done is to convince unhappy women that all of their problems are the result of “male supremacy,” an argument that perhaps seemed plausible circa 1968, but which makes no sense whatsoever after more than four decades of “progress” in the direction of “equality.” If we expect greater equality between men and women to produce more happiness, should women be much happier today than they were in 1968? Instead, we find that young women are increasingly miserable and lonely, and yet this is blamed on “backlash” rather than on the actual cause, i.e., the feminist movement’s success in destroying the traditional social order.

    We are going in the wrong direction, and have been going in the wrong direction for decades, and all the feminists can tell us now is, “Faster!”

  6. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    February 21st, 2015 @ 9:18 am

    These people are damaged goods. To do this to a child is just unforgivable.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5oaZSx3UheQ/VNRqI4O9A6I/AAAAAAAAq88/95PYlukAobQ/s1600/giphy.gif

  7. DavidD
    February 21st, 2015 @ 9:20 am

    “So I became a feminist, really, out of a desire to not feel sh*tty about myself” for being a lesbian.

    So feminism is really all just about being lesbian.

    Once again, Stacy McCain nails it.

  8. DavidD
    February 21st, 2015 @ 9:25 am

    “Where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket?”

  9. Adobe_Walls
    February 21st, 2015 @ 10:33 am

    Bringing back the family will probably take a generation though I suspect many will come to understand it’s value and start very late.

  10. IceBerg77
    February 21st, 2015 @ 10:51 am

    She’s the front runner for most annoying feminist.

  11. Saltyron1977
    February 21st, 2015 @ 11:07 am

    The Sally Kohn article is infuriating. All I’ve heard since high school is that “gays are born that way” and thus, have to be treated as if it is an immutable characteristic, like race. Of course, there was never any solid proof of that, when any idiot can see that there are several possible motivating factors for it (abuse, mental illness, hedonism, confusion, incarceration with nothing but the same gender, a possible “birth defect” factor ala intersex, etc.). Yet it became the foundation of each and every “right” they pushed for, especially rights to adoption. And now that they have legal & social traction, as predicted the mask comes off and it becomes a “choice” again, that children (who given the statistical odds are heterosexual), will be put into the care of homosexuals to have their brains scrambled by being groomed into the lifestyle, which is then bootstrapped as “in the kid’s best interest” because homosexuality is no different than heterosexuality and is no longer considered deviant or abnormal. Frightening levels of child abuse of several coming generations met with thunderous applause, all because we abandoned “the best interest of the child” standard for the “whatever makes a gay happy” standard.

  12. Nan
    February 21st, 2015 @ 12:01 pm

    I recently read that a college is trying to bring back dating, which means teaching students how to date. You know, ask for contact information, make plans to go to a movie or have dinner and not have sex.

  13. Rachel
    February 21st, 2015 @ 12:04 pm

    This behavior, the highly sexualized early behavior, the hypersexuality, the borderline personality disorder, are all symptoms of a girl who was sexually abused at an early age.

    I love you RSMcCain – read the site daily, sometimes several times a day. I really wish you’d dig a little bit deeper into childhood sexual abuse and its impacts as most of these women in your feminist articles have all the hallmarks of girls who were abused, and many of them admit to some abuse as a child. I think it might provide you with a deeper understanding of why some of these women end up where they are.

    Thanks for your consideration
    http://www.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Health-Care-for-Underserved-Women/Adult-Manifestations-of-Childhood-Sexual-Abuse

  14. Southern Air Pirate
    February 21st, 2015 @ 12:07 pm

    No. In the LGBTQ world contrary to the public pronouncements. Being mostly gay is generally a euphemism for bring Bi-sexual. She still probably loves a rooster or two, but the rabid hatred in the Lesbian and Gay world of bisexuals means she can’t be honest about her feelings. Just another form of prejudice that THE LGBTQ movement pushes out of itsself.

  15. RS
    February 21st, 2015 @ 1:40 pm

    . . .understanding that my feelings are valid is a bit of a challenge.

    Therein lies the problem. While it’s true that emotions exist and their eruption is unpredictable, we need reason to determine whether they have validity. She makes the obvious mistake of equating existence with validity, a mistake which only became ubiquitous with Postmodernism.

  16. marcus tullius cicero
    February 21st, 2015 @ 2:21 pm

    Gays, please leave normal people that accept two genders determined by chromosomes and heterosexual relationships free to pursuit happiness without been harassed…Don’t care what you do, just mind your own damn sh*t!!!

  17. concern00
    February 21st, 2015 @ 2:37 pm

    There is seriously nothing in feminism for a normal healthy, sound of mind woman…unless you get excited by that wage equality canard.

  18. Fail Burton
    February 21st, 2015 @ 3:17 pm

    Kohn’s world of the PC is the whirl-gig of double-standards. Everyone in the world is not only respected for but encouraged to express themselves as they see fit, from Delta Blues to Asian cinema to gay people. The sole exception is always the straight, the white and the male. They are an immoral and generic block of clay to be shaped by the rest of the world and to be diversified into. The idea there is such a thing as an “indigenous” white culture or land or male straight artform is as ridiculous to the PC as the idea there isn’t such a thing for everyone else. It’s a con game that wouldn’t fool a child. The problem is that there’s a lot of Archie Bunker’s childish “bleeding heart liberals” nowadays. Maybe too many for the West to survive.

  19. Fail Burton
    February 21st, 2015 @ 3:26 pm

    Marxist’s claim that the great mover of history is economics but I’ve always had the sense it is war. A semi-permanent state of war for 5,000 years that was low-tech is going to tend to exacerbate the differences between men and women. It’s probably no coincidence feminism started in the two countries the least invaded into in recent history: America and the U.K.

    However that doesn’t explain why giant freezer warehouses for supermarket chains are entirely male out on the floor. Given the penchant to bend over backwards to accommodate women, it’s clear women don’t want to do such jobs. Multiply that by entire parts of society feminists conveniently never talk about, especially the legally enforced requirement for men to sign up for the draft. I’m sorry but everything gender feminists talk about stinks of failure and hypocrisy. They don’t suffer from discrimination but from low-self esteem based on not being able to fly by flapping their arms. I cannot move reality itself to change that.

  20. Wombat_socho
    February 21st, 2015 @ 4:40 pm

    What a radical concept! Think it’ll work? /s

  21. Nan
    February 21st, 2015 @ 4:43 pm

    I realize it’s just crazytalk, but I thought that’s what this blog was about? Crazytalk, that is.

  22. DavidD
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:13 pm

    But say, “I’m straight. And I want my kid to be straight, too”, and you’ll be branded a hater.

  23. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:16 pm

    It has been known for many years that if you want a homosexual, sexual abuse is the way to get it. It’s a form of mental illness that was recognized as such by the APA, and was removed from the DSM only under political pressure.

    It is a mental illness that is difficult to deal with because of the way mankind is designed. It reaches all the way to the core of the person’s being. Basically, it is a result of the destruction of a human being and is, as such, dehumanizing.

    The results of sexual sin seem to the hardest to deal with.

  24. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:17 pm

    A Lesbian back in the 80s, can’t remember who, said that the only way to be truly feminist is to be a lesbian.

  25. RKae
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:18 pm

    Hey, I’m branding you a hater just for suggesting that scenario!

  26. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:20 pm

    Heh! The truth is pretty hard to bear for these non “earthly” creatures.

    And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.” Gen 2:23

  27. RKae
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:21 pm

    Trying to force people to behave as if male-female differences don’t matter will not produce “equality,” it will only produce confusion.

    And firefighters who can’t carry someone out of a burning building.

  28. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:25 pm

    Christ certainly takes a dim view of it:

    “It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.” Luke 17:2

  29. RKae
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:29 pm

    The fact that incarcerated people shift so rapidly to homosexuality, shows me that it’s an act someone partakes in when the opposite sex is out of reach.

    Homosexuals who are not incarcerated in a prison need to ask why they are behaving as if they are in a prison. Why is the opposite sex out of reach? What are the walls that surround them?

  30. trangbang68
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:48 pm

    I don’t know who Sally Kohn is but her statement “I’m gay and I want my kid to be gay also” just about sums it up, doesn’t it?
    It doesn’t get much more nihilistic than that, pull down the patriarchy, dykes rule, etc. What a pile of rot.

  31. K-Bob
    February 21st, 2015 @ 5:52 pm

    I, for one, would like to thank Ms. Stasey for not masturbating in public.

  32. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 6:00 pm

    Some make the shift, not all.

  33. Fail Burton
    February 21st, 2015 @ 6:16 pm

    Well, like Billy Packer used to say, “Where’s the points going to come from?” I guess the NAACPPermanentMadness can adopt some or go to a Cyborg Shot Clock.

  34. Jeanette Victoria
    February 21st, 2015 @ 6:40 pm

    LOL according to Sally Kohn we just didn’t understand what she wrote
    https://twitter.com/sallykohn/status/569168473391128578

  35. Fail Burton
    February 21st, 2015 @ 6:43 pm

    She forgot to mention “We are not sane,” and change the “we” to “I.”

    As for being reliant on men, she’ll realize exactly what that means the next time some Co-Prosperity Sphere bombs Port Darwin and wants to turn her into a Comfort Woman for the pleasure of their army.

    Feminism exists in exact proportion to the peace and human rights Western men have provided. She has some bizarre idea Germany, Russian, China, Japan and Iran are peaceful nations rather than nations held at bay and by use and threat of force.

    Feminists should be writing essays about “The Slave Pens Feminists Don’t See,” cuz I can see them very clearly and military graves and draft offices too. As clearly as heads chopped off in Iraq and Libya. Do these daffy women think matriarchal goodness holds that at bay? Or Lesbianism? Take away the West and Lesbianism is even more of suicide cult than it appears. I doubt if Berbers had much use for lesbian slaves or the Japanese for lesbian Geishas.

  36. Daniel Freeman
    February 21st, 2015 @ 7:08 pm

    It’s a disorder of personality borderlines, not barely a disorder. Think of the Psycho Girlfriend tropes in pop culture. Being overly attached on first meeting, swinging wildly through a whole range of irrational extremes — from a wildcat in the sack to super-accommodating to clingy to accusatory to violent rage — and then not feeling the attachment when you’re not there, being the one that actually cheats in the relationship while also being jealous and controlling… I’m not a pro, but that’s all consistent with what I’ve read about BPD.

    They are difficult to commit, but that’s just because it’s a personality disorder. Their hardware is fine, no hallucinations; it’s just the software that’s buggy. But it’s really buggy, like a Windows beta.

  37. Fail Burton
    February 21st, 2015 @ 7:15 pm

    Hey everybody I want to start a dynasty that’s an evolutionary cul-de-sac cuz Darwin and gender goodness.

  38. Daniel Freeman
    February 21st, 2015 @ 7:25 pm

    That “feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice” bit?

  39. Daniel Freeman
    February 21st, 2015 @ 7:30 pm

    Ms. Casey? Is that a nickmanteau? (“Nickmanteau” is my nickmanteau for portmanteau nicknames.)

  40. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 7:35 pm

    Prolly. That was the first time I heard that and thought it was stupid then. It seemed to gain some traction by the late 90s and took off.

  41. Daniel Freeman
    February 21st, 2015 @ 7:47 pm

    Not exactly. They might encourage some couples to go out — but as long as it takes more time, effort and expense to arrange dinner or a movie than to get laid, they’ll still use sex to decide who to go out with instead of the other way around.

  42. RKae
    February 21st, 2015 @ 8:27 pm

    The ones who do take up the practice see it as a way to humiliate others; a way to “conquer” and control.

    I wonder how many homosexuals in regular society also see it (subconsciously) as a humiliation that was done to them and they’re passing it on?

  43. Coronel Lando Calrissiano
    February 21st, 2015 @ 10:13 pm

    How the hell does that make sense in any language other than modern English?

  44. Quartermaster
    February 21st, 2015 @ 10:42 pm

    It was originally written Hebrew. So what exactly is your problem?

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  46. Fail Burton
    February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:09 am

    “The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist.” – Sheila Cronan

  47. Isa
    February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:34 am

    the Chicks on the Right heard about the Sally Kohn article and ripped her a new one.

    http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/27430-sally-kohn-is-hoping-her-daughter-turns-out-gay

  48. Zohydro
    February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:44 am

    I would contend that what you’re talking about, “situational homosexuality”, doesn’t really exist and that (many of) the homosexuals in prison were, in reality, always so inclined…

    The homosexual just doesn’t see being denied the company of the opposite sex as any great hardship—which is why the threat of incarceration is no effective deterrent for these types and why there is so much homosexuality in prisons!

    Now, there are exceptions, of course! Certainly, a submissive homosexual can be created through intimidation or grooming, for example…

  49. Zohydro
    February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:50 am

    Think of your typical homosexual… Vain, shallow, narcissistic, self-absorbed: all sociopathic traits!

  50. Daniel Freeman
    February 22nd, 2015 @ 2:55 am

    I finally got around to actually reading the Vice interview.

    Every time a woman is naked on screen it’s for the benefit of her male counterpart or to fill a deviant fantasy. I’m desperately veering from “manic pixie dream girl.” [my bold] What I would love is to just play a woman on screen who is not a woman by definition.

    Oh hey! An excuse to post one of my favorite spoof videos! 😀 The Dark Secret Behind Quirky Romantic Comedies