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‘Feminist Men’ = Progressive Misogynists

Posted on | August 18, 2015 | 74 Comments

Victoria Brownworth (@vabvox) is a lesbian feminist who hates “mansplaining from men asserting they are feminist allies”:

One night on social media I objected to the use of the word “c–t” by men as a pejorative against women. I wrote that it was one of the worst things a man could say about a woman, reducing her to nothing more than her genitalia. Dozens of men began tweeting at me, explaining to me that “c–t” was just a word and that I should step back from my “extreme” feminism. To a one they mansplained me about the importance of free speech (as if a female journalist wouldn’t know about free speech better than most). And also to a one, they proceeded to call me a “c–t.”
Yet as I went to block each one there were the profiles again: “progressive,” “left-leaning” and so forth. . . .

Permit me to interrupt: I never use the “c-word.”

It is a genuinely foul and offensive thing to say and, let me remark that I have noticed this misogynist slur used most often by gay men. Remember that (a) I majored in drama in college, and (b) for several months in late 1986, I was the only heterosexual man employed in the menswear section of a department store. In my experience, gay men drop the “c-word” much more frequently than do straight men.

Let me further point out the different significance of the “c-word” as an anti-woman insult (one which makes her anatomy the target), as opposed to “bitch” or “slut.” The latter two words pertain to particular traits or behaviors. To call a woman a “bitch” implies she is mean, crabby or spiteful; some women will apply this word to themselves as a boast, to suggesting they are formbidable adversaries when angry. To call a woman a “slut” is to accuse her of promiscuity.

We may object to either word as offensive, but they have specific connotations, referring negatively to certain behaviors or character traits, whereas “c–t” is just an anti-female slur. Now, let’s get back to Victoria Brownsworth’s critique of progressive male “allies”:

If you self-define as a progressive, why are you calling a feminist a “c–t” on social media, since feminist ally is part of every progressive platform? . . .
What progressive man would willingly accept the mantle of oppressor of women? And yet it remains the non-objective reality of women’s lived experience. Just as those of us who are white and actively doing anti-racist work must accept that we still have privilege that accrues to the mere fact of our whiteness, people with penises have to accept that their genitalia granted them a level of privilege at birth that no one born female has ever had.
Or ever will have. . . .
I’m not suggesting there are no pro-feminist men or that men are incapable of being feminist allies. But I do believe we are all inculcated from birth with the notion that men are superior and women are inferior. . . .
I don’t blame every man I meet for the oppression I experience and have experienced throughout my life. I don’t blame every man for the brutality women and girls face worldwide. But what I do expect and what I think is not over-much to expect, is that men who self-define as feminist allies, as pro-feminist, as our friends, not our enemies, not argue with us in public space about our lives. We know our lives better than you. And most importantly, you do not speak for us, you can never speak for us.

The First Rule for Men in Feminist Movements Is SHUT UP!

Men who wish to be “feminist allies” must realize that this requires them to accept feminism’s anti-male ideology as correct. Feminists believe that no male has any valid knowledge of anything. Nor can a male have any ability or virtue that could qualify him for a feminist’s admiration or respect. No feminist admires or respects men, because no male can ever have any real achievement or accomplishment that would entitle him to respect or admiration. Everything “people with penises” think they have achieved is, according to feminist theory, actually a result of the unjust oppression of women. In the zero-sum game of feminist theory, whatever a male possesses he has stolen from women, cheating women out of what is rightfully theirs because, in the cruel system of male supremacy, “their genitalia granted them a level of privilege at birth.”

Feminism is not about equality. Feminism is about SHUT UP.

Every woman is infinitely superior to all men — this is the fundamental premise of feminist theory, and if any man thinks he has anything to say that a woman needs to hear, he’s wrong. Feminism means all men are always wrong about everything.

You have a penis? SHUT UP. You are stupid and ignorant, and know nothing about anything, because you are male. Feminists do not want to hear anything a male has to say. Feminists are offended by your maleness, which fills them with an emetic revulsion. Feminists are nauseated by the mere thought of men. Feminists curse the fact that they are forced to share the planet with males. Complete silence is therefore the minimum duty of any man who wishes to be an “ally” of feminists. The second-best way for a man to help a feminist is never to speak a word in her presence, whereas the best way for a man to help a feminist is to do what Adrienne Rich’s husband did.

If a progressive male refuses to follow the example of Alfred Conrad — the only way a male can become a truly good man, according to feminist logic — the least he can do is SHUT UP, which is exactly the message the #ThingsFeministMenHaveSaidToMe hashtag is intended to convey. Everything “feminist men” say is wrong, for the simple and obvious reason that they are men:

This is what I mean when I say feminism is a totalitarian movement to destroy civiliztion as we know it. Feminism’s implacable hostility toward males means feminists can never be satisfied so long as any male exists, because male existence is inherently oppressive to women. Any male who calls himself a “feminist man” insults women by appropriating feminism, and everything a male says to a feminist is offensive.

“Fear and Loathing of the Penis — a paranoid resentment of men, characterized by irrational suspicion — is the underlying mental condition that feminism turns into a political ideology. What disturbs me, after months of studying this phenomenon, is that this madness is both contagious and incurable. Feminism is a sort of cultural virus that, once it takes hold in a woman’s mind, makes it impossible for her to relate to men in a normal manner and, because misery loves company, she feels compelled to share her hateful anti-male attitudes with other women.”
Robert Stacy McCain, Sex Trouble: Radical Feminism and the War Against Human Nature (page 108)

Trust me, guys, you never want to be a progressive “male ally.” Feminists don’t hate progressive men any less than they hate conservative men, they just hate them in a different way. At least, as a conservative, I don’t have to ask feminists for permission to speak. All feminists hate me, because I am a heterosexual male, and I don’t even bother to pretend I care whether they hate me or not. Feminist hatred is expected. In the 21st century, being hated by feminists is increasingly necessary to being heterosexual, whether you are male or female. Feminism Is Queer, to invoke the title of Professor Mimi Marinucci’s 2010 Women’s Studies textbook. As a pioneering feminist explained 40 years ago, “heterosexuality is the ideology of male supremacy.” Lesbianism and feminism have been historically “coterminous,” as Professor Bonnie Zimmerman said. Feminism is a movement to destroy “heteropatriarchy, the dominance associated with a gender binary system that presumes heterosexuality as a social norm,” to quote the Oregon State University professors who authored the textbook Women’s Voices, Feminist Visions. The category “heterosexual feminist” is problematic for the same reason that “male feminist” is an oxymoron. No feminist can ever love a man, because the oppressor cannot deserve love from his victim. Feminism is based in the understanding that all males participate in and benefit from the oppression of all women, and there is no way that any male can exempt himself from this feminist condemnation.

Every man is regarded as an enemy by the feminist death cult, which aims to impose on males a final and complete silence.

Alfred Conrad could not be reached for comment.




 

Comments

74 Responses to “‘Feminist Men’ = Progressive Misogynists”

  1. McGehee
    August 18th, 2015 @ 8:32 pm

    I agree that calling a woman a c%@t is a bad thing, but mostly because it’s witless and unambitious. But “the worst thing a man can say about a woman”? Not by a long shot.

    “Darlin’, you make one damn mediocre sandwich” is far and away worse than any moronic four-letter slur, and it barely rates a C+.

  2. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    August 18th, 2015 @ 8:35 pm

    Q by wife: “Honey do I look fat?”

    A by husband: [Laughing uproariously in response].

  3. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    August 18th, 2015 @ 8:40 pm

    Progressive feminist males are to Feminism as Rich Spoiled Capitalist Idiots are to Communism. They will use them if they prove useful, other than that they are completely expendable.

    The only difference is Communists might not hate them (although usually they do because both the Communist leaders and the Rich Spoiled Capitalist Idiots are contemptible flawed people to start with), Feminists will always despise them.

  4. totenhenchen
    August 18th, 2015 @ 8:41 pm

    I use the c-bomb fairly often, but in the English/Scottish/Irish tradition, much the same way that ghetto blacks use the n-bomb. I have purposefully used it as a slur against a specific female maybe two or three times.

  5. Jeanette Victoria
    August 18th, 2015 @ 8:42 pm

    Well shit rolls down hill Feminist “men” (and I use the term loosely) can always kick a Christian conservative

  6. Saltyron1977
    August 18th, 2015 @ 8:42 pm

    I’ve never heard anyone complain about the use of the word “dick” to men in the way “cunt” is used with women, when they both reduce people to their genitalia. Should I be offended?

    Further, all feminists do day in and day out is reduce people to their genitalia.

  7. JoeBee
    August 18th, 2015 @ 9:00 pm

    I loathe Bailey Poland. She’s one of the most loathsome, divisive, and nit picky, yet totally self righteous feminists on Twitter, and that is really saying a lot in a field with Jessica Valenti, Amanda Marcotte, Jaclyn Freidman, and Lauren Chief-Elk. She’s also latched on to the idea that Twitter is “her space”, and if you want to tweet at her in order to debate, or really just mock her, you need to give her money.

  8. Rob Crawford
    August 18th, 2015 @ 9:04 pm

    “Look fat? No, you don’t LOOK fat.”

  9. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    August 18th, 2015 @ 9:56 pm

    Ouch.

  10. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    August 18th, 2015 @ 9:58 pm

    So she takes money to do tricks? They have a word or two to describe that.

  11. Jason Lee
    August 18th, 2015 @ 10:02 pm

    Quotable: “It is impossible to exaggerate how much feminists hate men, because infinity cannot be exaggerated.”

  12. robertstacymccain
    August 18th, 2015 @ 10:02 pm

    After I saw this comment, I checked out her TL, and paraphrased a few of her insulting tweets. This seems to have resulted in some of my followers paying attention to Ms. Poland. Not in a good way.

  13. JoeBee
    August 18th, 2015 @ 10:04 pm

    Yeah, it has something to do with “women’s unpaid emotional labor”, like talking to men, and a “transfer of wealth” because women make less, or something..They fly under the hashtag #giveyourmoneytowomen. A few of them try to stand on ideological grounds, but mostly it’s camgirls, and findoms, whom are basically turning tricks.
    .

  14. JoeBee
    August 18th, 2015 @ 10:06 pm

    Yeah, she’s absolutely infuriating, and totally up her own ass. She’s married, too, and one can only wonder what that must be like for him? I’m guessing he walks on eggshells around her?

  15. mole
    August 18th, 2015 @ 10:08 pm

    Heres a deal, when ladies stop using the term “creepy” (and they all mean paedo-like) on fairly normal blokes then we might be interested in policing the use of the c word a little more.

    Also:
    Mansplaining: Any conversation where a man injects real life experience into the lived fantasy of an oppressed wimmin.

    “Dont stick your thrusting gnarled phallus of patriarchy down my throat”!!

  16. mole
    August 18th, 2015 @ 10:17 pm

    Also, just for fun heres a clip from a few years back which might cause feminists heads to explode or their undies to combust.

    A public health message about domestic violence.

    (nearly every segment in this show featuring Dr Rudi was great)

  17. DeadMessenger
    August 18th, 2015 @ 11:01 pm

    To which I would say, “Good, neither do you”.

  18. DeadMessenger
    August 18th, 2015 @ 11:03 pm

    I think yeah, they hate them more. Male Feminists are wusses, and nobody respects a wuss.

  19. DeadMessenger
    August 18th, 2015 @ 11:04 pm

    Bingo…

  20. DeadMessenger
    August 18th, 2015 @ 11:05 pm

    BWAHAHAHA!

  21. DeadMessenger
    August 18th, 2015 @ 11:06 pm

    Is she married to Alfred Conrad? 😀

  22. BozoerRebbe
    August 18th, 2015 @ 11:34 pm

    As if these feminists have never called a man a prick.

  23. RKae
    August 19th, 2015 @ 12:31 am

    What gets me about “creepy” is that its use is always directly related to how a guy looks.

    “Creepy” just means “A fat, balding guy said something to me that would have made me giggle if a good-looking guy had said it.”

  24. RKae
    August 19th, 2015 @ 12:33 am

    Whenever my wife dresses up and asks me, “How do I look?” I always say, “Like a hood ornament.”

    (Anyone who’s seen “The Rocketeer” will get that line.)

  25. Daniel Freeman
    August 19th, 2015 @ 12:36 am

    If SJWs didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

  26. Adjoran
    August 19th, 2015 @ 12:56 am

    In Britain, “c**t” is used toward anyone, male or female, seems to mean an idiot or perhaps a bitchy idiot. But they say it on TV, it’s not considered the horror it is here.

  27. Adjoran
    August 19th, 2015 @ 12:57 am

    Q: Does this dress make me look fat?

    A: No, not at all (unspoken: Don’t blame the dress)!

  28. concern00
    August 19th, 2015 @ 1:28 am

    I don’t think any feminist should be also claiming to be a man.

  29. Fail Burton
    August 19th, 2015 @ 5:43 am

    Overanalyzing curse words will get you nowhere at the speed of light. As for this woman’s daft rhetoric, of course a supremacist never admits they are a supremacist. It’s all REALLY the fault of men. No, really. It’s like science. It’s just true. Funny how men wouldn’t seem so “oppressive” if women went out and formed armored divisions to protect themselves and built great canals. It is what it is. So the stars are racist and sexist. Tough. Deal with it.

  30. Grandson Of TheGrumpus
    August 19th, 2015 @ 7:40 am

    Yes.
    I’ve noticed that they, as a group, seem to be first out of the starting blocks to use “you pr!ck”, or some variation thereof.

    Unlike most, I don’t consider it hypocrisy. For Hypocrisy to obtain, one must pretend to extending the same standards across groups, including the standard-setters themselves.

    These misery-filled wretches don’t do that! Ask them next time they seem to be in the midst of a “hypocritic” diatribe or tirade– they’ll tell you!

    And what they’ll tell you will be on the order of it not being germaine b/c she’s the oppressed.

    In other words, as all Progressives do, she’s exempted herself from any rules of conduct. A Progressive, even a female one, is a law unto themselves.

  31. Grandson Of TheGrumpus
    August 19th, 2015 @ 7:48 am

    And, usually, both are correct— in the unspoken
    ;~)?.

  32. dabhidh
    August 19th, 2015 @ 7:58 am

    I don’t disagree with the fact that feminists want their male allies to shut up, but for me the real takeaway from this article is that a lot of “progressive” men are stinking misogynist hypocrites who think that their “progressive” credentials give them carte blanche to call women “c—s.”

  33. Fail Burton
    August 19th, 2015 @ 8:17 am

    I love all these hard looks these tough girl feminists give men. One single determined man with a sharp pencil locked in a room with 50 women could enslave them all.

  34. Demonrat Plantation
    August 19th, 2015 @ 9:00 am

    Interstingly, large numbers of men’s rights advocates are former feminists

  35. Demonrat Plantation
    August 19th, 2015 @ 9:05 am

    At the dinner table my sister would get a stern look for using that word (i would have been sent to my room without dinner for saying anything remotely similar). Raised by wolves, err lesbian feminists

  36. McGehee
    August 19th, 2015 @ 10:31 am

    So in England, men can make damn mediocre sandwiches too. Thank you for that revelation.

  37. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    August 19th, 2015 @ 10:38 am

    Here is a general palate cleanser. Roll Tide.

  38. marcus tullius cicero
    August 19th, 2015 @ 10:45 am

    …The crazies are running the asylum!

  39. JoeBee
    August 19th, 2015 @ 10:47 am

    True. For all their complaining about “toxic masculinity”, and “male violence”, I’d say we’ve been extremely patient with a feminist movement that clearly hates us. Imagine if the average man was as toxic, and violent as feminists claim? I’d say internet trolling would be the least of their problems.

  40. marcus tullius cicero
    August 19th, 2015 @ 10:48 am

    …Receive my condolences, hope you have recuperated from your mental suffering.

  41. Sort-Of-Mad Max
    August 19th, 2015 @ 11:04 am

    I note that she’s currently crowd-sourcing a lung transplant for her dad. Some mean-spirited person (I’m not on Twitter) might ask her why she has to do that in the age of wonderful, wonderful Obamacare.

    Also, her husband, brother, and pretty much every male she’s related to needs a lung transplant. Either her family hit the bad-luck lottery big time, or she needs a new grift.

  42. Grandson Of TheGrumpus
    August 19th, 2015 @ 11:13 am

    Love the pic!

  43. JoeBee
    August 19th, 2015 @ 11:16 am

    Ironically, she lives to “suffocate” men. I’m sure there’s something to it.

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  45. robertstacymccain
    August 19th, 2015 @ 12:18 pm

    Hell hath no fury like a male feminist scorned.

  46. Ilion
    August 19th, 2015 @ 1:52 pm

    In truth, the “right” to call women [bad word] is just the icing on the cake of being a “progressive” “man” — the *real* action is in being able to use women as sterile cum-dumps because “I support a woman’s right to choose”

  47. JosephBleau
    August 19th, 2015 @ 2:22 pm

    Not sure if this point’s already been made, but I’ll worry about women being called a “cunt” when feminists and other women start fretting about the fact that men are called “dick”, “prick” or “tool”. Even the term “A-hole” is fairly specific to men, and just refers to a body part. Feminists tried to make it a universal term, but it just doesn’t seem to have the same impact for women.

  48. JosephBleau
    August 19th, 2015 @ 2:30 pm

    And you can add to that things like loser and creep. Those are male-specific as well, though, admittedly, not a mere body part reference You can call a woman a loser, but she’ll likely look puzzled or shrug, because, unlike with men, her mate value is not greatly impacted by “losing” or “winning”. In addition, things like “dork”, “geek” or “nerd” are really only perjorative as applied to men.

  49. concern00
    August 19th, 2015 @ 2:37 pm

    Genitalia reduction is not unique to feminists.

  50. JoeBee
    August 19th, 2015 @ 3:33 pm

    Reading tweets by feminists during the last GOP debate (where a number of issues were covered from Iran to the national debt)the only thing they cared about was Planned Parenthood, which is to say abortion, and the supposed pay gap, and that’s it. Any other issue regarding the nation was secondary to what they want, which is why for all their bs about racism, income inequality, etc. they support a Wall Street, Globalist shill like Hillary Clinton who undoubtedly will be the final nail in the coffin for the U.S. Constitution, the rule of law, national sovereignty, and a stable economy. She will be the ruler of a police state.