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Queer Vegan Witch Accuses Radical Feminists of ‘Anti-Trans Violence’

Posted on | November 12, 2015 | 201 Comments

David Salisbury (@davidsalisbury) describes himself as “a queer, vegan, Witch . . . chief of the DC Bureau of the Pagan Newswire Collective . . . High Priest of Coven of the Spiral Moon . . . involved with street activism with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and . . . a full time employee with the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest LGBT civil rights organization.” Salisbury’s employment by HRC means that his various forms of “activism” necessarily reflect on the “civil rights organization” that pays him a full time salary.

HRC supported the Houston Equal Rights Ordinance (HERO) which voters in Houston overwhelmingly rejected at the ballot box earlier this month, in large part because of concerns that the measure would have endangered girls and women by compelling “transgender” access to public restrooms and locker rooms. William Bigelow reported:

On October 5, campaign finance reports showed that the group supporting the measure, Houston Unites, had raised $1.2 million, while the group opposing it, Campaign for Houston, had raised only $275,000.
The Washington Times reported, “The ordinance, which included fines of up to $5,000 for preventing someone from using public accommodations, such as business-owned bathrooms open to the public, based on gender identity.” . .
HERO was openly supported by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton . . .

Despite a 4-to-1 money advantage, and despite the fact that Houston is a Democrat Party stronghold with a lesbian mayor, voters rejected HERO by a 61%-39% margin — a decisive defeat for the effort to “mainstream” transgenderism. The defeat of HERO was widely seen as a conservative victory. Hillary Clinton blamed “the far right” which she said created “a lot of fear, and a lot of anxiety” about “the bathroom issue . . . that was totally without merit, that there was no basis for it.”

The problem with such a claim, however, is that it is rejected by radical feminists, who believe that “the bathroom issue,” as Mrs. Clinton calls it, does have “merit.” There is a petition to “Drop the T” from LGBT:

We are a group of gay/bisexual men and women who have come to the conclusion that the transgender community needs to be disassociated from the larger LGB community; in essence, we ask that organizations such as the Human Rights Campaign, GLAAD, Lambda Legal and media outlets such as The Advocate, Out, Huff Post Gay Voices, etc., stop representing the transgender community as we feel their ideology is not only completely different from that promoted by the LGB community (LGB is about sexual orientation, trans is about gender identity), but is ultimately regressive and actually hostile to the goals of women and gay men. . . .
The vilification and harassment of women and gay/lesbian individuals who openly express disagreement with the trans ideology; a simple disagreement over an issue can result in responses that range from insults (“transphobic bigot”) to threats of physical harm (often, in the case of women, rape) and even death . . .
The infringement of the rights of individuals, particularly women, to perform normal everyday activities in traditional safe spaces based on sex; this is most pernicious in the case of men claiming to be transgender demanding access to bathrooms, locker rooms, women’s shelters and other such spaces reserved for women. . . .

Radical feminist Cathy Brennan says David Salisbury is “harassing lesbians who signed the Drop the T petition,” showing a message in which Salisbury wrote:

And while we’re doing the work of calling out horrible transphobic “elders”, I present you with this, posted just a few days ago. Trying to take the “T” out of LGBT, and claiming that transwomen are actually men who are lying to get into spaces … that too is anti-trans violence that mustn’t be condoned. I ask us all to end this silence. If you support spaces where people like [name redacted] teach, ask yourself, is this really in line with your values?
I am proud to work for the organization that has authored the Equality Act. Because we will NEVER be equal unless we bring everyone along with us.

David Salisbury accuses “horrible transphobic ‘elders'” of engaging in “anti-trans violence” just because they don’t want men in dresses and wigs invading the women’s restroom. Meanwhile, David Marcus at The Federalist interviewed the gay man who authored the Change.org “Drop the T” petition:

Any attempt to rationally discuss issues that gays/lesbians/bisexuals are concerned about regarding the trans movement is met with unparalleled vitriol, harassment, death threats, and silencing—demanding that the person commenting contrary to the trans narrative be banned from forums, for example.
I know that lesbians have for several years been the object of attack from trans activists for their (rightful) desire to enjoy exclusively lesbian and women-only events such as the now shuttered Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival, in the wake of the Stonewall brouhaha as well as the recent proliferation of stories about effeminate boys and masculine girls being directed by their parents and health professionals into the trans identity. So many gays and lesbians were “sissies” and “tomboys” as kids, I think they see themselves in these children and are concerned about them being directed down an inaccurate path.

Read the whole thing. This is a serious issue involving real human beings and, as with so many issues today, certain “progressives” (evidently including Hillary Clinton) want to exercise a totalitarian authority to tell us what to think and control what we are allowed to say. It’s like the climate change “consensus” — a clique of influential insiders have anointed themselves Official Experts, decided what the Correct Opinion is, and the rest of us are just supposed to nod our heads in mute assent. How dare we question the Official Experts?

When I first became aware of this conflict in January 2014, I had a lot of laughs about the absurdity of this conflict:

The Competitive Victimhood Derby is ultimately a zero-sum game, you see. There can only be one winner, and the transgender claim to equal victimhood is rejected by radical feminists, who view this as an attempt to usurp their own categorical claim.
It’s like a traffic jam on the Crazyville Road, where two politicized groups of wackjobs are compelled by the implicit logic of their arguments to fight each other for supremacy.

Over the past 22 months, however, I have come to appreciate the seriousness of this issue in the post-Obergefell era. The “vitriol, harassment [and] death threats” directed against Cathy Brennan and other radical feminists who refuse to back away from a scientific fact — i.e., female is a matter of biology, involving XX chromosomes — should alarm everyone who cares about truth. The ideology behind the transgender movement demands that we pretend that Bruce Jenner deserves recognition as “Woman of the Year.” Lunatics want to compel us to cooperate with their delusions, and we are condemned as hateful bigots if we refuse to play along with their make-believe game. So the “Woman of the Year” is 66 years old and has a penis, and you’re not even allowed to call him “Bruce” or mention that he is a grandfather.

Having examined this issue in depth (see “The Queering of Feminism: Why Does ‘Equality’ Require Promoting Perversion?”), I cannot be accused of ignorance in regard to these arguments, and I am indifferent to accusations of “hate.” One can scarcely have any opinion at all nowadays without being accused of “hate,” and the fact that these accusations are flung around so haphazardly should tell us that the Official Experts are afraid of honest debate. The question we should be asking is this: Who authorized these people to tell us what to think?

Are we going to listen to common sense, or are we going to listen to the High Priest of the Coven of the Spiral Moon?

David was first introduced to the Craft at the age of 11 by his stepmother, and then on a deeper more intentional level by a childhood friend at the age of 12. That same year, he began training with a friend’s family coven and initiated a year later.

That’s how you become a “human rights” advocate, I guess.

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201 Responses to “Queer Vegan Witch Accuses Radical Feminists of ‘Anti-Trans Violence’”

  1. Mike G.
    November 12th, 2015 @ 8:09 pm

    What a bunch of [email protected] freaks! ( Pardon my Swahili.) That ‘dude’ is a menace to society.

  2. theoldsargesays
    November 12th, 2015 @ 8:12 pm

    I was reading about this “Drop the “T” ” petition a few nights ago, very amusing stuff.
    The LGB community, or at least part of it, are accusing the trans community of being…..like themselves when it comes to addressing those who don’t toe the party line.
    It was was good to see the gay’s and tranny’s attempting to rip each other apart just like they do when a Christian says “I’m sorry but I don’t want any part of that.”
    Bisexuals better watch out- you’ll be next for not being pure enough.

  3. Fail Burton
    November 12th, 2015 @ 8:23 pm

    You’re right about this being an ideological feud which in turn masquerades as some kind of distorted scientific feud between Victorian Darwinists and anti-Darwinists at some imaginary Royal Academy of Sciences, with fake handlebar mustaches and tits all around.

    The truth is there is a dawning awareness by both sides that their particular queer theory cancels the other out. Even truer is the fact they are both insane and based on sheer nonsense they’ve made up out of their heads and dubbed “science” and “history.”

    This is a war over pronouns and the Pearl Harbor was Simone de Beauvoir’s quote that “one is not born a woman, but becomes one.”

    Judith Butler, the creator of a comprehensive survey of lesbian “science” has quietly left the fray while declaring for the trans side and undermining her own work. That’s not as big a deal as one might expect since it’s all gibberish anyway. A mating pair of tigers is not a “social construct” and one can employ all the Derridean “performative” linguistic chanting rituals one wishes; nature will remain that which can reproduce and thus survive. That would not be this now divided suicide cult which agrees the Earth is flat but not what color it is.

  4. robertstacymccain
    November 12th, 2015 @ 8:40 pm

    “… Derridean ‘performative’ linguistic chanting rituals …”

    To perform a social role does not mean that the role is illegitimate or unnecessary. I think most intelligent parents are aware, for example, that their authority in that role is not altogether “natural,” i.e., we are consciously acting our part as grown-ups, a performance made necessary by the fact of our parenthood, and the child’s need for an adult to tell him, “No, you can’t stay up watching TV. You have school tomorrow.” We say this to the child in a stern voice, and we smile in remembering what it was like when we were kids, which doesn’t really seem that long ago. We have learned to play this part — the Parent Wielding Adult Authority — and we expect that someday our children will perform that role with their own kids.

    So, yes, in some sense, “Father” is a role that is socially constructed and “performative.” But the radical deconstruction of social roles is aimed at delegitimizing these roles, in order to destroy society as we know it.

  5. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 8:59 pm

    Wicca vegan PETA and HRC my goodness this man has won the loser lottery

  6. Cara Schulz
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:08 pm

    Nice religious bigotry thrown in there.

  7. joethefatman
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:11 pm

    The drop the T stuff all seems related to the tranny community trying to take over the history regarding the Stonewall riots. There are some that are trying to rewrite history and claim that the riots were lead by trannies.

    http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/11/gay-versus-trans-bar-fight-breaks-out-over-stonewall/

  8. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:34 pm
  9. robertstacymccain
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:47 pm

    Having actually studied the history of modern pagan Wicca (see The Triumph of the Moon by Ronald Hutton) I consider it a “religion” akin to Scientology, i.e., a scam, a hustle, a hoax.

  10. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:52 pm

    With a TON of narcissism thrown in for good measure

  11. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:55 pm

    Looks like the special Wiccan vegan snowflake has protected his tweets

  12. Fail Burton
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:59 pm

    I am making a distinction between what a cultural stereotype is which ultimately comes from nature and the idea that heterosexuality and the family itself is a fiction buttressed by using words like “boy-girl,” “man-woman,” “Mr.-Mrs.”, etc. Fatherhood and marriage are natural extensions and legal codifications of what would occur is that form anyway. Butler maintains they are entirely fictitious and anticipate themselves in a type of mass hallucination. Parenthood will assert its authority no matter what, unless you think kids would explore the Arctic and invent steamships once free of the “oppression” of their parents. We agree lesbian ideology is bent on the destruction of anything which doesn’t support the idea lesbianism represents a much closer natural order of things than “men” have allowed it. That’s why political lesbianism in a very real sense sees itself as a back to nature movement. Back before Conan wrecked the joint with his “compulsory heterosexuality.”

  13. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 9:59 pm

    “The Firefly Tradition” Just made up in 2009 more or less. LOL Wiccans are always making up their “traditions.” My tradition is over 2000 year old

  14. Mike G.
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:00 pm

    I guess you’re trying to say invest in popcorn futures, eh?

  15. trangbang68
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:10 pm

    How does a “queer vegan” eat the meat as they say?
    In Iran they have a “Drop the T” movement. Unfortunately for the “T”‘s (as well as the “Q”‘s, the “L”‘s and the “B”‘s) it is off of a tall building.

  16. RS
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:21 pm

    First, they came for the Mensheviks, but I said nothing . . .

  17. RS
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:34 pm

    The truth is there is a dawning awareness by both sides that their particular queer theory cancels the other out.

    It’s not just “queer theory.” Consider the Houston ordinance as same pertains to “rape culture,” where “rape” is defined broadly to include virtually anything a male does which discomfits a female. Fraternity guy hanging out in women’s restroom is bad; Fraternity guy in dress hanging out in women’s restroom is now OK.

  18. David Elizondo
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:43 pm

    Actually, he’s a wonderful person with a great heart. He would do anything for social justice and equality.

  19. David Elizondo
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:51 pm

    Who can blame him? He doesn’t need to hear from people like you all day. Broken record.

  20. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:57 pm

    Oh look he got a defender who just created a Disqus account

  21. Joe Guelph
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:58 pm

    “David Salisbury, LGBT “activist,” has been
    worshipping at Wicca altars since he was 12.”

    For the Left, “keeping religion out of politics” means, “keeping *religions we don’t like* from supporting *politics we don’t agree with*.”

  22. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 10:59 pm

    Yeah social justice and equality explains why he spends time harassing lesbians on social media. We all know social justice warriors are the most intolerant hateful troll on social media.

  23. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 11:01 pm

    Nailed it! As a former Pagan I know it is really is a”religion” for self-indulgent narcissist. Pagans as a rule are very liberal and sexually depraved

  24. Joe Guelph
    November 12th, 2015 @ 11:07 pm

    Which would be okay if they stayed the hell out of adult activities like politics, and just spent their time and energy banging each other in a pile to honor the Great Goddess. But the perpetually-adolescent mentality that fuels these types always demands attention in the public sphere at all costs.
    (To be fair, there are some decent, sane Neo-Pagans and Wiccans like our own @NeoWayland. But they’re a small and largely invisible minority in that scene.)

  25. Jeanette Victoria
    November 12th, 2015 @ 11:14 pm

    The sane Pagans are rare. They get harassed by the likes of David Salisbury all the time.

  26. kilo6
    November 12th, 2015 @ 11:49 pm

    Yeah, “equality” in the tradition of the Jacobins.. Liberty Equality Fraternity … or Death

    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/LibertyEqualityorDeath.jpg

  27. concern00
    November 12th, 2015 @ 11:55 pm

    “a simple disagreement over an issue can result in responses that range from insults (“transphobic bigot”) to threats of physical harm (often, in the case of women, rape) and even death . . .”

    Oh the delicious irony!

  28. kilo6
    November 13th, 2015 @ 12:07 am

    imgur.com/SxzJKGG.png

    If it’s considered “bigotry” to disagree with this latest version of Gnosticism / Promethean Luciferianism, count me in.

    Bigotry implies an unfair dislike of other people or ideas.
    Mr. McCain’s argument is one of Logos .vs. Pseudologos which isn’t bigotry

  29. Brycedavid
    November 13th, 2015 @ 12:45 am

    I signed the Drop the T petition. I believe the LGB should be about the LGB and not the T who are trying to usurp it a la “Single White Female” tactics in order to claim rightful control of it. Well, they actually have control since one cannot critique Trans anywhere in the Gay Media without being called a Transphobe. With that being said, I don’t see the point of this useful idiot being a witch have anything to do with any of this. He’s a jerk to harass those who signed the petition but leave out stuff like this. It makes us look as nasty as the Trans Cult.

  30. Finrod Felagund
    November 13th, 2015 @ 1:04 am

    “No, no, no – it’s spelt Raymond Luxury Yach-t, but it’s pronounced ‘Throatwobbler Mangrove’.”

  31. Finrod Felagund
    November 13th, 2015 @ 1:10 am

    Gays and lesbians treat bisexuals worse than straight people do, as a general rule.

  32. DeadMessenger
    November 13th, 2015 @ 1:42 am

    Yeah, and wait a sec…aren’t Christians met with unparalleled vitriol, harassment, death threats, and silencing by LGBs for demanding their Constitutional right to freely practice their religion?

    Well. Shoe’s on the other foot now, eh? First they came for the Christians…then they came for the LGBs…

  33. DeadMessenger
    November 13th, 2015 @ 1:47 am

    Agree 100%.

  34. DeadMessenger
    November 13th, 2015 @ 1:51 am

    God forbid he should be exposed to differing opinions. As a Christian, I’m exposed to differing opinions against my will all the time. Tell your friend, “welcome to MY world”.

  35. DeadMessenger
    November 13th, 2015 @ 1:58 am

    BWAHAHAHA! I was JUST thinking of that very sketch just a few moments ago!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tyQvjKqXA0Y

  36. Fail Burton
    November 13th, 2015 @ 2:23 am

    We need a name for this madcap social justice like “The Orwell Effect” or something.

  37. Prime Director
    November 13th, 2015 @ 2:41 am

    So, yes, in some sense, “Father” is a role that is socially constructed and “performative.”

    Just like gender: a natural tendency realized and institutionalized, but not created, by language, custom and ritual.

  38. Daniel Freeman
    November 13th, 2015 @ 2:44 am

    Indeed, “no bisexuals” is a trope and straights fetishize them. But then “mostly” straight is as much affirmation as denial.

  39. Daniel Freeman
    November 13th, 2015 @ 2:48 am

    Trans rape culture

  40. Daniel Freeman
    November 13th, 2015 @ 2:51 am

    Ha! Not one man in a hundred would know what that means, but I appreciate your jest.

  41. Fail Burton
    November 13th, 2015 @ 5:34 am

    In Third Wave Feminism disagreement is bigotry. “Misgendering” is presented to us as a fait accompli, morality by fiat. We are given the choice of my way or the highway, the right or wrong side of history.

  42. Fail Burton
    November 13th, 2015 @ 5:35 am

    Like, preach in Saudi Arabia?

  43. DeadMessenger
    November 13th, 2015 @ 5:35 am

    Good one Daniel, because that could actually be extended ad infinitum, thus making a mockery of SJW idiocy. Or, I should say, more of a mockery.

  44. Fail Burton
    November 13th, 2015 @ 5:38 am

    Mutations which cannot reproduce are not “natural.” They are broken. They are not an analogy to “Father,” a thing which will exist no matter what.

  45. Dana
    November 13th, 2015 @ 6:05 am

    When “vegan” is the least weird part of your multi-adjective description, you know that you have a problem!

  46. Dana
    November 13th, 2015 @ 6:10 am

    Rather than just “drop the T” from LGBT, I say drop it all, and simply refer to them as the homosexual community.

    I, for one, refuse to use the term “gay,” which means happy and carefree, to refer to homosexuality or homosexuals, so I am already dropping the G. Lesbian and bisexual are accurate enough terms that I don’t have a problem with them, but lesbians are covered under the term homosexual, as are bisexuals at least part of the time.

    If the word homosexual seems too long, queer is always available . . . .

  47. Dana
    November 13th, 2015 @ 6:15 am

    Can a pre-op female-to-male transsexual go topless on the beach, just ’cause she thinks she’s a man?

  48. Jim R
    November 13th, 2015 @ 6:35 am

    It just hit me (maybe I’m slow..):

    This sort of thing is just the same as the vicious, often lethal infighting we’ve seen throughout history. Stalin and Trotsky. Hitler and Roehm. Various religious wars. All were fights between people who were nominally on the same side but accused the others of being impure or heretical… all in the name of being the ones in charge.

    “No, WE are the REAL leaders of the movement! YOU must be purged!”

    Jebus…

  49. RS
    November 13th, 2015 @ 7:07 am

    There was a time when a degree from Mizzou meant something.

  50. NeoWayland
    November 13th, 2015 @ 7:32 am

    Stars above, I take a night for the dark Moon…

    Yeah, I have to go with RSM on this one. Even his criticism of Salisbury’s paganism. There are some pagans like me who think that posting pictures of your altar online is only a couple of steps removed from posting pictures of your genitalia. And I really have issues with titles and affiliations used politically.

    There’s a line I use. “Why does your enlightenment require my sacrifice?” I think it applies here.