Dishonor: University Settles Lawsuit in Notorious ‘Regret Equals Rape’ Case

Posted on | February 12, 2016 | 71 Comments

Terms of the settlement in John Doe v. Washington and Lee University are confidential, as is customary, but given the self-congratulatory tone of the university’s statement — which the plaintiff’s attorneys must have approved — my hunch is this: The university agreed to expunge this charge from John Doe’s record, pay his attorney’s fees, and give him a relatively small sum (say, $10,000) in exchange for avoiding a trial that could have exposed the university to devastating negative publicity. Among the more than 100 lawsuits filed against universities by male students who say they were falsely accused of sexual misconduct and denied due process in the campus kangaroo court system, the Washington and Lee case was one that most blatantly demonstrated the kind of anti-male prejudice now rampant in higher education:

Doe’s lawsuit asserted that the odds were stacked against him during a hearing before the Student Faculty Hearing Board — a process that he argued was slanted to favor female accusers over male defendants.
For one thing, he claimed, a university administrator who handled the investigation in November 2014 recently had given a talk on campus about “regret equals rape,” or the argument that what first passes for a consensual sexual experience later can be called a rape by a woman who has second thoughts.
Doe’s alleged victim heard those comments, the lawsuit alleged, and was influenced by them in her decision to bring charges seven months after their sexual encounter.
And in alleging a rush to judgment by the disciplinary board, Doe pointed out that the decision to expel him was made one day after the publication of a Rolling Stone story — since discredited — about an alleged gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity house. The article prompted a national outcry against what it portrayed as UVa’s culture of indifference to rape victims.
“The negative impact of the Rolling Stone article on UVa influenced W&L’s decision to find the plaintiff responsible for sexual assault so as to avoid a similar fate,” the lawsuit alleged. . . .

(To interrupt: This highlights a problem that feminists refuse to recognize. Whenever concerns are raised about false accusations, feminists will instantly cite statistics to the effect that only a tiny percentage of rape accusations are false. However, those statistics refer to criminal prosecutions, rather than the kind of campus disciplinary procedures involved in these cases. Furthermore, feminists have recently taken to shrieking “rape culture” constantly, inciting a climate of hysteria where false accusations become more likely, and in which students accused of sexual assault have none of the due-process rights accorded to common criminals in a court of law. It is almost certain that among the 100-plus lawsuits filed by students who say they were falsely accused are charges that never would have been made, had it not been for the recent feminist fear-mongering crusade.)

Doe has maintained that he and the student had sex that not only was consensual, but was initiated by her after they met at a party and wound up back in his room. His lawsuit states that she never complained about the sexual encounter, or a second one a month later, until after he began dating another woman later in the school year.

Bingo! Here is the answer to the question of motive. This is something else that feminists expect us to ignore in cases like this. Feminists become outraged by any suggestion that a woman would ever lie about sexual assault. Even in the UVA rape hoax, where Jackie Coakley obviously fabricated the whole thing, including the non-existent “Haven Monahan,” feminists like Jessica Valenti, Amanda Marcotte and Jaclyn Friedman won’t denounce the false accuser as a liar, and even refuse to use Coakley’s full name. Holding the false accuser accountable isn’t part of the feminist agenda, because to tell the whole truth about such matters might give a clue to why women sometimes do lie about rape.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

If you read John Doe’s complaint against Washington and Lee, you can surmise that the accuser was interested in a serious romantic relationship with John Doe, but he seemed to treat their two hookups as merely casual sex. When he later got serious with another girl, we may further surmise, his accuser regretted her previous liaisons with John Doe — she felt used, a “pump-and-dump” — and it was this sense of regret, and a desire for revenge against the boy who had treated her badly, that inspired her to accuse him of sexual assault.

Let me intrude here a thought that has crossed my mind in studying this general phenomenon. Despite the prevalence of shameless promiscuity among college girls nowadays, they are still very concerned about status and reputation. And the girl who feels she had been used and discarded may become self-conscious about the reputational damage she has suffered because — news flash — girls talk. Girls gossip and whisper and form cliques, and the girl who feels she has been snubbed by a friend or excluded from the “in crowd” will often become paranoid at her perceived loss of status. Did she hook up with the wrong guy? Did she go too far, too fast? Did he tell his buddies about their hookup? Has the gossip gotten around to her friends? Are the other girls talking about her behind her back?

This kind of concern — the shadow of shame — is a psychological undertow that is seldom mentioned in regard to the apparently cheerful hedonism of sexual “empowerment” that feminist celebrate. Robert Tracinski made a very astute observation about this:

Dubious claims about “rape culture” are an attempt to create an all-purpose scapegoat for the emotional dark side of promiscuity.
College campuses have long since been taken over by a culture in which casual sex with acquaintances is considered normal and where slightly outré sexual experimentation is strongly encouraged, all of it spurred on by alcohol, which figures prominently in most of these cases. But it’s clear that some young women are not psychologically prepared for this. They have casual relationships and hookups, but then feel regret and emotional trauma when the experience ends up being emotionally unsatisfying or disturbing. Then they are encouraged, by the feminists and “rape culture” activists, to reinterpret the experience as all the fault of an evil man who must have coerced them.

Furthermore, I believe, modern communications — smartphones, email, texting, dating apps, and especially social media like Facebook — have exacerbated many of the problems surrounding casual sex. On the one hand, good-looking young people can advertise themselves online via OKCupid, Tinder, etc., and easily find potential partners. This is what “selfie culture” is really about. The girl posing provocatively in selfies she posts online is seeking attention, and while she may only be fishing for compliments to boost her ego, I can guarantee the single girl will check the profiles of anyone who responds to her selfies by actively flirting with her. The phenomenon of “long-distance relationships” that begin with online flirtation is one aspect of how the Internet has affected romantic activity, especially among the young.

On the other hand, social media can make it difficult for sexual hedonists to play the runaround game without anyone catching on. Back in the day before cell phones, it was easy to explain way a missed phone call, but now it is assumed that everyone is constantly accessible by phone, and young people consider it rude not to reply to a text message. Meanwhile, people list their relationship statuses on their Facebook profiles and a girl who goes on a date with a guy is likely to post Instagram photos of their evening together. How could a guy possibly hope to get away with cheating on his girlfriend under these conditions?

And am I the only one who sees how all this factors into the phony “campus rape epidemic” scare? In an age when young people’s romantic lives are commonly so visible online, with sites like Facebook effectively creating a continuously updated permanent record, the stakes are very high for the college girl concerned about her reputation. This in turn has consequences for the college guys who are seeking casual short-term companionship — the quick hookup after a party, or a non-monogamous “friends with benefits” arrangement. When you hear stories about guys and girls “stalking” their exes via Facebook or sending them harassing emails or text messages, you realize how a single episode of carelessness can have enormous ramifications in the New Media Age.

OK, now factor in the Law of Large Numbers. If you have many millions of college kids out there engaging in episodes of carelessness on a regular basis, you will inevitably have a certain number of genuine sexual assaults. However, you will also have an even larger number of unhappy college girls with hurt feelings and remorse. Among those broken-hearted and lonely girls — and there must be many thousands of them on campuses all across the country — there will be a certain number who decide to turn disappointment into revenge.

We may not agree on what the overall picture is, in terms of percentages and statistics, and in many cases it is quite nearly impossible to tell whether an accusation of sexual assault is true or false, but John Doe v. Washington and Lee shows how feminists who foment a climate of sexual fear help create the conditions in which men are falsely accused and denied their due-process rights.

Are you ready for the real kick in the head? Washington and Lee, whose history stretches back to its founding before the American Revolution, was for more than 200 years an all-male school, and did not admit its first female undergraduate student until 1985. Scarcely 30 years after that, half the university’s enrollment is female, and any male student who enrolls there knows he will be immediately expelled if his ex-girlfriend decides “regret equals rape.” This is why parents pay for their sons to attend Washington and Lee (annual tuition $46,417), a school where “equality” means that male students have no rights at all.

At a school whose namesakes were honorable men, there is now not a shred of honor or decency left. The modern worship of “equality” has destroyed everything honorable about Washington and Lee, where corrupt administrators supervise dishonest faculty in the miseducation of their perverted students. Parents thinking of sending their children there should check out the Washington and Lee University Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Questioning (LGBTQ) Resource Center. Maybe your child will want to enroll in the Women’s and Gender Studies (WGS) program at Washington and Lee University.

Is this hideous parody of “higher education” worth $46,417 a year?

Category: Education, Sex Trouble

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71 Responses to “Dishonor: University Settles Lawsuit in Notorious ‘Regret Equals Rape’ Case”

RS
February 12th, 2016 @ 9:06 pm

. . .but given the self-congratulatory tone of the university’s statement — which the plaintiff’s attorneys must have approved — my hunch is this. . .

Don’t assume the settlement was minor, the university’s tone notwithstanding. I’ve seen similar statements issued by parties to confidential settlements which parties had their asses handed to them. Remember, only the terms of the settlement are confidential. The spin is not.
robertstacymccain
February 12th, 2016 @ 9:40 pm

A bit of tea-leaf reading on my part. I figure the main thing the plaintiff wanted was to get reinstated. W&L doesn’t say whether he was reinstated or not (“confidentiality”) which means, yeah, he’s reinstated. OK, so next he wants his attorneys paid full rate. He got that, too. How much cash money did he get? My guess is, not much. Maybe $50,000 at most. Like I say, W&l just wanted to avoid the negative publicity of a trial. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t have won. So if W&L says to the plaintiff’s lawyers, “We’ll reinstate your client and pay your fees,” the plaintiff’s lawyer hears, “Ka-ching!” Payday, baby — “billable hours” — and then the plaintiff’s lawyer says, “OK, but you’ve got to pay my client $100,000.” W&L counter-offers at $20,000, and they settle at $50,000 — provided the plaintiff signs off on a statement saying how wonderfully FAIR AND EXCELLENT the university’s procedures are.
Jeanette Victoria
February 12th, 2016 @ 10:04 pm

A “male feminist” who REALLY believes that there is a campus rape culture. Oh an apparently Gingers aren’t white, who knew!

https://youtu.be/GingCn0Z6gE
Durasim
February 12th, 2016 @ 10:07 pm

That is one Ginger who definitely does not have a soul.
Wombat_socho
February 12th, 2016 @ 10:31 pm

Clicked expecting actual Milo content, left disappointed.
Jeanette Victoria
February 12th, 2016 @ 10:47 pm

Just a bizarre rant by a “Male feminists” who is Ginger (and not white)
Zhytamyr
February 12th, 2016 @ 11:07 pm

Do not send your sons or daughters into the lion’s den. Some day soon there will be a competing system. Until then, trade school and/or professional apprenticeships in the trades. They are doing their best to auto-delegitimize, opt out and let them burn.
Matt_SE
February 12th, 2016 @ 11:59 pm

I’m convinced that a large portion of the dysfunction came when a degree became Big Business. Once it became obvious that you could support a gigantic bureaucracy with the proceeds of higher education, the die was cast.
Fail Burton
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:41 am

“Furthermore, we have decided to distance ourselves from the names of two male colonialist slaveholders and rapists. Our new name is Hardy & Laurel Entardation Lesbian Theory Academy.
Joe Joe
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:58 am

Robert, your analysis of the technological aspects of the campus insanity is well done.

There are some other things that also need to be considered as intersecting with the technology:

1. The ubiquitousness of porn in a variety of media.

Much of this porn depicts anal sex, rough sex, and abusive treatment of women. The prime consumers of this porn are 12-15 year old boys. These boys grow into young men with a confused idea of what sex is and what girls are expecting from them. Add the images of porn to the awkwardness of many young men and you get troublesome sexual encounters in college.

(If you look at the specifics of many of these college false-rape cases, you see an awful lot of references to unwanted or unenjoyed anal sex. I believe that this is where the “consent for every sexual act” is coming from.)

2. The wymmins studies courses that demand sexual promiscuity as a right for women but also teach that both men and heterosexual sex are abusive to women.

Talk about a mixed message. The feminists want young women to be as randy and reckless as the worst of college men, but if men are so godawful, who are they supposed to have sex with? I’m guessing that this conundrum leads to lesbian sex.

For most women, however, lesbianism doesn’t work–outside of an occasional drunken night when feelings are entirely numbed–so the contradiction is never properly resolved. This may be why young women feel that they must be having all of this sex but are so ready to file grievances against “sexual abuse”. This comes right from the mentally ill professors teaching wymmins studies.

3. Complete lack of religion or moral compass

Most millennials are not religious, according to recent polls. They are not churchgoers or believers in any moral/metaphysical system. There is nothing to stop them from drinking to extremes and having casual hook-ups and anonymous sex. There is no religious or spiritual context for the act itself.

4. The double standard that persists despite the lack of religion or organized morality.

You mentioned that “girls talk”, but the question is why should they do that in an age when sex is supposed to be so utterly destigmatized? Is the media still spreading that message? Parents? Or is there something intrinsically biological about judging randy, out of control females differently from randy, out of control males? Why the shame, still?

Because, as you pointed out, it’s that shame that leads to a number of false rape allegations. I don’t have an answer to that one.
Fail Burton
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:12 am

What I’d like to know is this: how are these women’s studies programs which produce such obvious hatred and discrimination towards men not themselves a violation of Title IX? No one from History of Western Civ is showing up at feminists talks with blood smeared on their faces.
Ilion
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:53 am

“Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.”

Scorned? Hell! Hell hath no fury like a woman ignored.
Ilion
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:58 am

I decided by :10 that it wasn’t worth my time.
Finrod Felagund
February 13th, 2016 @ 5:39 am

Because Democrats control the Department of Justice.
RKae
February 13th, 2016 @ 6:02 am

The public at large has absolutely no idea how out-of-control porn is.

Libertarians especially are quick to trot out the insane lie that “it’s no different than a kid finding a Playboy magazine in the 1970s.”

Porn has become utter degradation that the actresses and models are paid to grin through. It’s such a wild departure from reality that to compare it to a simple picture of a nude woman is a clear indication of running interference for a depraved industry that is bent on tearing down civilization.

And the biggest thing to remember about porn today: Bad as it is, they aren’t done yet. It’s going to get a lot worse.
RS
February 13th, 2016 @ 7:34 am

In my own experience, it’s normally the large institutional clients who wish to maintain confidentiality. The reason is simple, they don’t want to establish a “market value” for a particular type of suit, under circumstances where there are potentially more of them down the road.
RS
February 13th, 2016 @ 7:44 am

The obvious answer is that the evolution from education to indoctrination has been very slow. Much like the frog in the pot of water set to boil, the educational establishment/overseers woke up to find entire departments and programs steeped in victimology.

Back in the late ’70s and early ’80s when I was doing two degrees in literature, we read. . .well. . .literature. The identity of the author was a part of the course, but a Toni Morrison or a Kate Chopin were not segregated among “black” or “women” writers. We learned about them within the context of a literary genre or epoch.

However, about that time, I began to notice that segregation beginning. Over the course of years, the number increased and then the courses began to be split off into departments of “interdisciplinary studies” courses, which in turn began offering degrees by the early to mid ’90s. The change coincided with the changing of the guard from the old “WWII GI Bill” professors to the “Baby Boom, Trash the Establishment” professors.
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Daniel Freeman
February 13th, 2016 @ 8:53 am

Thanks for the warning.
Daniel Freeman
February 13th, 2016 @ 9:05 am

According to one article I read, it’s a class thing. In the upper class, college girls that go all the way (on a mere “hookup”) are still considered sluts, presumably because upper class men have options when they eventually decide to get married. It’s just common sense that higher n-counts tend to lead to an inability to bond, whether from oxytocin resistance or some other reason, so it would be foolish for such a man to settle for a slut.

Therefore, the continuance of slut-shaming by women could be as simple (and unyielding) as eliminating competition for high-quality mates.
Eternity Matters
February 13th, 2016 @ 10:21 am

The clowns at this school actually said “regret equals rape?” The dictionary is not safe around Leftists.
Fail Burton
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:04 am

It’s amazing how willfully blind these people are. They have learned nothing from Detroit, which is the future America in microcosm. You cannot celebrate failure and mock success just because you decided you think whites and men are immoral.

Dance with the one what brung ya, or in this case, shrivel up and die. There’s gonna be a lot of great-grand kids of liberals holding urinating on graves ceremonies about 100 years from now.
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:46 am

Wow, it’s not often that you see a psychopath literally foaming at the mouth. But once he mentioned Laci Green, whose claims I have disproved to a supporter over and over again (her followers are like Jehovah’s Witness cultists), I knew what kind of idiot this guy was.

Then he takes exception to Milo’s anti-feminist statements, saying that he’s not part of the female culture, and thus has no right to speak; while simultaneously the ranter is himself not part of the female culture, but yet somehow has every right to speak.

What a jackwagon. “I’m not white, I’m a ginger.” Shyeah.
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:47 am

Guy is a textbook study in insanity. : )
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:50 am

Trade schools and apprenticeships will get you an actual job, and without paying out a ton of money into the bargain. Heck, an apprenticeship means you’re getting paid to learn.

College degrees are a crap shoot, and may lead a person straight to Mickey Ds, especially with a non-STEM degree.
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:54 am

Any time a bureaucracy becomes involved, that spells the beginning of the end for whatever it is. No matter how much you pay them, they still do a crappy job, so all bureaucratic jobs should be minimum wage.
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:54 am

Rosie O’Donnell got a BS there, I heard.
Jeanette Victoria
February 13th, 2016 @ 11:55 am

Well next time some progressive loon calls me a white supremacist I will let them know as a child of a ginger and puerto rican parents I guess I’m not white either
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 12:07 pm

…the continuance of slut-shaming by women could be as simple (and unyielding) as eliminating competition for high-quality mates.

Nope, that would require forethought and planning.

It’s this: Girls/women think that no matter how much of a known slut the guy is, they will be the one to change him. She actually thinks that she is the special, high-quality girl that he has clearly been searching for all this time. And when she is finally forced to admit to herself that she was wrong, and got used – usually weeks or months later, and sometimes egged on by other girls in the same situation – then look out. Hell hath no fury and so on.
DeadMessenger
February 13th, 2016 @ 12:10 pm

I think you should self-identify as black. And it would be racist of those people to suggest that a black woman would be a white supremacist.
Fail Burton
February 13th, 2016 @ 12:56 pm

What an amazing coincidence so many of these “rape victims” seem to be alcoholic whores. If you didn’t mean to get drunk and have sex then don’t get drunk and have sex. It’s not like string theory. I don’t recall Einstein writing out some triumphant formula about that on a blackboard and then having journalists taking a photo.
CaptDMO
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:17 pm

“…there will be a certain number who decide to turn disappointment into revenge.”
Well, you see, when they are being disingenuously re-educated that this is the correct course of action, at the college level of “lecture”, by folks inexplicably deemed worthy of appointment (by WHO exactly?)to the position of “Judge”….
“Dear Colleague”.. indeed!
Jeanette Victoria
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:19 pm

LOL to be honest the only thing I self-identify as, is a Christian
Jeanette Victoria
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:27 pm

After getting my BA in psych I couldn’t find a job I went back to JC to get my psych tech license
robertstacymccain
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:27 pm

“The ubiquitousness of porn in a variety of media. Much of this porn depicts anal sex, rough sex, and abusive treatment of women.”

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

This is one point on which I find myself 100% in agreement with radical feminists like Gail Dines. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, when I heard the word “pornography” used — both by feminists and the Religious Right — I had practically zero idea of what they were condemning. Like every other other American male who was a teenager in the 1970s, I became familiar with Playboy and Penthouse at an early age, and this was what I thought of as “pornography,” i.e., pictures of good-looking women, naked. Feelings of guilt and shame about the enjoyment of these images made it something that my adolescent self was happy to eschew as immature — a childish amusement for losers — just as soon as I had access to the naked female body in real life. To be a winner, in terms of masculine adulthood, meant that you didn’t need to be one of those creepy losers masturbating to centerfold pictures like a pathetic seventh-grader.

Now, I had a vague awareness that there was such a thing as “hardcore” pornography, but this was not something to which I had any exposure or even wanted to see. Circa 1977 — the year I turned 18 — the only places you could find “hardcore” pornography were grimy theaters and sleazy bookstores in big cities. Only perverts, weirdos and losers would be interested in that vile stuff, whereas winners had no problem finding girlfriends who were quite eager to get naked, etc. There was no home video or cable, so that if you wanted to see hardcore pornography — i.e., explicit films or even photos of people engaged in sexual activity — you had to go somewhere and spend money, and why? Because you couldn’t get your girlfriend naked.

The first time I saw a hardcore porn video was in 1986 when a buddy insisted on showing me a VHS tape he had, the title of which was gross enough that I wouldn’t repeat it, and the content was absolutely disgusting. While I suppose there might be some curiosity factor that would make someone want to see the performance of certain activities, I cannot imagine why anyone would spend money for that kind of VHS tape, much less why some guys spend money amassing a collection of that stuff and then spend hours watching it. Personally, my own vivid imagination is capable of conjuring up all kinds of wild fantasies, but I greatly prefer the more pleasurable reality of normal sex.

By contrast, if a guy was about 10 years younger than me — born around 1970 — he turned 14 just about the time when VHS players were becoming common devices in American homes and, as a consequence, was fairly likely to have encountered hardcore pornography in his early adolescence. The young man born in 1970 was more likely to be born out of wedlock, or to have seen his parents divorce in his childhood, than were men of my generation. So maybe his stepfather or his mother’s boyfriend had a stash of porn videos the horny teenager secretly accessed, or perhaps some of his buddies had that kind of access to such videos. This experience almost certainly impacted the boy’s formative ideas of sexuality.

Skip forward another 10 or 15 years — the boy born in the early to mid-1980s — and when he reached adolescence, the Internet provided him access to . . . well, everything imaginable, in such vast quantities that he could see whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, as often as he could get time alone with a computer hooked up to a modem. And in the years since then, the advances in terms of high-speed connections, laptops, smartphones and everything else has only expanded the availability of online porn.

THIS IS A VERY BAD DEVELOPMENT, and anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong

Bad as it was for adolescent me to be looking at Playboy in 1972, that was a fairly wholesome influence by comparison to the constant effusion of hardcore smut emerging from the Internet sewer during the past two decades, so that I very much doubt there are many men under 30 nowadays who have not been influenced by this disgusting trend.

ANAL INTERCOURSE? SADO-MASOCHISM? BONDAGE? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?

Honestly, young women need to interrogate any fellow who seeks a romantic relationship with them, to make sure he’s not into any of that. And heaven forbid that any young woman start watching porn and think she should be into that.

When radical feminists were condemning pornography three or four decades ago, I didn’t understand what all the noise was about, because whoever went to those shabby downtown places where hardcore porn was available, right? Certainly no winner ever spent time and money in pursuit of that wretched stuff. But that was then, and this is now, and despite my ideological differences with feminists like Gail Dines, I am in 100% agreement with her that something has to be done about the pornography problem, and I wish there was somebody in the Republican Party who would dare to talk about this in terms of public policy.
Jeanette Victoria
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:36 pm

Back in the early 70 first hubs and I used to go “soft porn” flicks. It was a lot of fun for a newly married couple. There wasn’t much of a plot just a bunch of folks losing their clothing. It was never very graphic and mostly very silly. The it changed, violent and graphic footage was added we stopped going. That is something that isn’t mention the amount of graphic violence in porn.
robertstacymccain
February 13th, 2016 @ 1:52 pm

What really woke me up to this was the “Belle Knox” (Miriam Weeks) story, where she described being exposed to porn — and enjoying it — when she was only 11 or 12 years old. The idea that a sixth-grade Catholic girl would be watching hardcore porn shocked the daylights out of me, and when she described its effects on her sexuality, I was horrified. If this kind of corruption is happening to Catholic girls from respectable families, I dare not imagine what’s happening to kids from bad families.
Jeanette Victoria
February 13th, 2016 @ 2:26 pm

You think it is bad here is is far worse in Europe even the public ads are pornographic
Joe Joe
February 13th, 2016 @ 2:54 pm

You said it all. I am of your era and remember it well. But now, the internet has brought the sewers of the world into our homes.

So take a college guy who grew up with a steady visual diet of bondage, rough anal sex, etc. and pair him with a college girl, fresh out of wimmins studies, who thinks promiscuity is her right (but that sex she doesn’t want or like is a crime) and you have all the ingredients for a 5-alarm “rape” accusation.

All you need is someone to set the match to the gasoline.
Joe Joe
February 13th, 2016 @ 3:13 pm

Years ago, Chris Hedges (very left columnist) wrote a great article on how pornography was destroying the women in the porn industry itself. His thesis was that women in porn (like Belle Knox) were actually suffering from PTSD because they had been so violently handled:

http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/20091011_the_victims_of_pornography

“She had been promised $1,000 for her first film. She was handed $600 when the scene was done. She also contracted gonorrhea. Porn stars are tested for HIV and sexually transmitted diseases once a month, but “people do so many scenes between tests that a month is a long time.” She began, once she had treated her gonorrhea, to do films three or four times a month. She would have several more bouts with gonorrhea and other sexually transmitted diseases during her career. She got pregnant and had an abortion. The demands on her began to escalate. She was filmed with multiple partners. Her scenes became “extremely rough. They would pull my hair, slap me around like a rag doll.

“The next day my whole body would ache,” she recalls. “It happened a lot, the aching. It used to be that only a few stars, people like Linda
Lovelace, would once do things like anal. Now it is expected.”

…Roldan would endure numerous penetrations by various men in a shoot, most of them “super-rough.” As she talks of her career in porn, her eyestake on a dead, faraway look. Her breathing becomes more rapid. She slips into a flat, numbing monotone. The symptoms are ones I know well from interviewing victims of atrocities in war who battle posttraumatic stress disorder.

“What you are describing is trauma,” I say.

“Yes,” she answers quietly.”
Joe Joe
February 13th, 2016 @ 3:19 pm

That makes sense. I wonder if the young women are actually conscious of why they still shame others.
Joe Joe
February 13th, 2016 @ 3:20 pm

I posted the link to this Chris Hedges article above, but in case you didn’t see the link, this is the best article I have seen on how porn affects the women involved in it:
http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/page2/20091011_the_victims_of_pornography
RS
February 13th, 2016 @ 3:40 pm

This thread is veering off topic, but I’ll risk the wrath of Wombat.

What troubles me about it in the context of literature, is modern colleges are jettisoning the “old standards,” in favor of crap that hit Amazon last week, so long as the authors have the “correct” melanin levels, genitalia, and or sexual proclivities. See, e.g. college courses analyzing Twighlight or Fifty Shades of Gray. How does one purport to have a B.A. in English without having read a substantial chunk of Shakespeare? Or, Milton? Or Melville?
Durasim
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:09 pm

This fat pasty ugly Ginger tries to use the tagline of “white knight” ironically or sarcastically, thinking he’s refuting the common (and usually justified) allegation that male feminists are trying to score brownie points from women.

Just one look at him, and you know he waddles back to the internet feminists, squeaking “See? I made fun of that mean guy Milo! I did good? I did good?”
Quartermaster
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:10 pm

Just think what the proliferation of smart phones is doing now. It can only go down hill from here.
Quartermaster
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:12 pm

Italian TV had full frontal nudity on network TV in the early 80s.
Quartermaster
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:14 pm

She certainly spews a lot of BS now, so that makes sense.
Quartermaster
February 13th, 2016 @ 4:18 pm

I would have asked for a full free ride – tuition, books, room and board, for the rest of my undergrad education along with a cash settlement. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that’s what he got.
Daniel Freeman
February 13th, 2016 @ 5:35 pm

I found the study, Paying for the Party, and I’m still not sure. Maybe? An article at The College Fix and another at The Daily Dish have all the links you could want.
Quartermaster
February 13th, 2016 @ 5:53 pm

Justice Scalia died during the night.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop