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Satan Is Pro-Abortion

Posted on | March 26, 2016 | 160 Comments

Perhaps you already suspected this — I mean, we know Satan is a Democrat — but his followers at the Satanic Temple of Detroit made it clear that the Prince of Darkness supports Planned Parenthood:

It was a showdown that can only be described as biblical: The Satanic Temple of Detroit versus the Pro-Life Action League outside of a Planned Parenthood clinic on Good Friday.
Led by Detroit chapter director Jex Blackmore, who made headlines last December for blogging about her experience with medical abortion, members of the Satanic Temple traveled to Planned Parenthood’s Ann Arbor, Michigan, location to counter-protest the anti-abortion group.
In images from the protest, Blackmore can be seen wearing a crown of thorns and a faux pregnancy belly while carrying a cross meant to symbolize “the burden of oppressive mandates endured by women,” as the Satanic Temple noted in a press release.

(Via Memeorandum.)  The director of the Satanic Temple blogged about her abortion last year and shared such gems of satanic wisdom as this:

Apparently, some believe that women must accept the burden of motherhood every time they have sex. It might surprise you to learn that many people have no intention of procreating when they sleep together. I for one do not believe that sex is a contract for pregnancy.
Many of the messages I’ve received illustrate the resounding assumption that I’m pregnant because I was irresponsible and had unprotected sex. This is not true, but does this really matter? Perhaps it’s easier to demonize a pregnant woman seeking abortion rather than consider that she’s someone like you.

Yeah, don’t “demonize” the Devil-worshipper, you guys.

 


Category: Abortion, Planned Parenthood, Religion

Comments

160 Responses to “Satan Is Pro-Abortion”

  1. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 7:32 am

    And yet you’re still here trying to convince me.

  2. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 7:35 am

    Having dealt with some incredibly silly propaganda over the years, I beg to differ.

    The first step to invalidating something is to prove it wrong.

    Words matter. Actions matter more. Intentions don’t.

  3. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 7:38 am

    By the way, have you noticed you’re focusing on my “unbelief” and the Christian reaction? Do you remember what I said a few posts back?

    ?And NONE of that matters This Side, where it’s up to us to Manifest the Divine in a way that hopefully makes the World a little better than we found it.

    You and he are nitpicking about the afterlife when we should be focusing on the here and now.?

  4. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 7:41 am

    Simple questions.

    Would you give up your faith and your beliefs for mine?

    Why should I give mine up for yours?

    Will it make you a better person?

    Will it give you some Divine merit points?

    Why should I care about some nebulous benefit that comes to you?

    Live and let live.

  5. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 7:48 am

    Seek paradox for truth.

    What you have is an either/or trap. You believe that the conditions of your faith are such that all other faiths and belief systems must be universally false. So when I say my faith tells me different, by your conditions I am declaring your faith to be Untruth.

    But by the conditions of my faith. I’m just seeing things from another perspective.

    What you need to ask yourself who imposed the either/or trap? Your god? Or people claiming to speak in His Name? Why should Diety be limited by a human logical construct?

  6. Quartermaster
    March 29th, 2016 @ 8:16 am

    Your assertion is, as usual, invalid. I know there is no convincing a man against his will.

  7. Quartermaster
    March 29th, 2016 @ 8:19 am

    Live and let live does not mean what you think it means. Your questions are simply more irrelevancies. You drag the conversation around to your nonsense then lie, whine and belly ache when you get pasted for it.

  8. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 10:28 am

    The questions are central to this discussion. Particularly the first two.

    ?Would you give up your faith and your beliefs for mine?

    Why should I give mine up for yours??

    I’m pretty sure if you think about those questions, you’ll discover what “live and let live” means.

  9. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 10:30 am

    So now you understand. Well, at least a third of it.

  10. Quartermaster
    March 29th, 2016 @ 11:29 am

    Come down off your high horse. That’s always been understood. You simply have been blinded by your own dishonesty.

  11. Quartermaster
    March 29th, 2016 @ 11:31 am

    If you weren’t blinded by your ideology and dishonesty, you would already know how I answer those questions. It still does not relieve a Christian of his duty to the rest of humanity.
    As I said, live and let live does not mean what you think it means.

  12. Richard Harold Weatherfield
    March 29th, 2016 @ 12:30 pm

    I have no idea what kind of point you’re trying to make anymore. All I’m reading here is a bunch of sophistry and illogic.

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  14. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:05 pm

    ?Come down off your high horse.?

    This from someone who presumes that the default setting for humanity is Christianity, or at least that Christians are in the majority.

    You know, one thing I haven’t been able to figure out about you is why when you tell people that they should be Christian, the only reason you give is a vague threat about what “happens” to non-Christians after death.

    Yes, yes, I know you’re going to tell me it is not you that threatens and it is up to Christians to “warn” others.

  15. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:10 pm

    It’s paradox and illogic because some of the “universal” assumptions that you use aren’t exactly universal.

    You can mix metric and English parts, but something is probably going to come loose and fly apart.

  16. Richard Harold Weatherfield
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:12 pm

    Again, you’re not making any coherent point that I can see. You’re spouting sophistry.

  17. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:13 pm

    I’ve told you before that my faith and beliefs are at least as important to me as yours are to you.

    You wouldn’t stand for someone like me telling you what and how to worship.

    Parity.

    Live and let live.

  18. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:21 pm

    Assume I am making a pie.

    You tell me I need apples, cinnamon, nutmeg, brown sugar, cane sugar, apples that have been cored and peeled (preferably Granny Smith but others will work in a pinch)…

    But I am making a key lime pie.

    Then you tell me that’s not a True Pie®. And it may not be from your perspective.

    But from my point of view, it works just fine. It’s round, it’s dessert, and my guests will enjoy it.

  19. Richard Harold Weatherfield
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:25 pm

    Nope. Still not making any damn sense. And I’m bored now. Good day.

  20. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:26 pm

    There’s not just one type of pie.

    Your belief shouldn’t control what I can and can not call a pie.

    Who knows? Next month I may go with my grandmother’s pecan pie. It’s a pain to make but absolutely delicious.

    My key lime pie and my pecan pie do not negate the existence of your apple pie. Your apple pie doesn’t prevent me from making my key lime pie and my pecan pie. They aren’t your pies so you may not wish to call them pies, but they exist for me.

  21. NeoWayland
    March 29th, 2016 @ 3:28 pm

    Okay. Bye.

  22. Quartermaster
    March 29th, 2016 @ 4:28 pm

    Hilarious. Every time we’ve had a set to it’s obvious that you are seeing what you want, and not what was actually said.

    Yes, what you said in the last paragraph is a Christian duty to point to the warnings. I know you don’t understand why I point to those things. You’ve already stated, repeatedly, that you’ve rejected the provision God made to escape his wrath. At that point, the warning of your final disposition is all that’s left.

    Once more, however, you’ve lied about what I have said. I have never said that Christianity is the default setting for humanity. That is something you’ve made up. Scripture certainly does not say that and I don’t say that. Scripture, and I, in fact, say exactly the opposite. The default setting for humanity is exactly what you are: prideful, rebellious and unaccepting of what God has provided so that you can escape His wrath. There are only two options, turn or burn. You’ve chosen burn. You don’t like the fact that God has placed that before you, and you don’t like that I am duty bound to warn of you of it. but there it is.

    Like it or not.

  23. Quartermaster
    March 29th, 2016 @ 4:37 pm

    And, again, live and let live does not mean what you think it means.

    I’m not telling you how, or what, to worship. I’ve simply pointed out the warnings of the consequences of rejecting Christ. You don’t like it, and that’s fine.

    And, once more, if you don’t like it, don’t drag the conversation around in that direction. Most of all, quit lying about people’s motives, particularly when those motives are placed before you in clear and unmistakeable language.

    I can understand that you don’t like the warnings God places before us all. I didn’t like it when I was in your state, and everyone that I have known that was in your state was the same way. That you don’t like it won’t change the outcome an iota. You will have everything you’ve said and done dredged up from the complete record God has on you, and your protests will avail you nothing when Christ shows you that what you did counts for nothing for salvation.

    God is live and let live, even by your definition, up until the decision has to be made where you will spend eternity. At that point, God is no longer live and let live.

  24. NeoWayland
    March 30th, 2016 @ 12:02 pm

    I didn’t say it was what you said, I said it was what you presumed.

    Why are you so desperate for me to bow before your belief? If I didn’t know better, I’d think you were threatened by my beliefs.

    And of course, this discussion conveniently lets you ignore the here and now in favor of your “Christian duty.”

  25. NeoWayland
    March 30th, 2016 @ 12:05 pm

    No, you are insisting that your beliefs trump mine.

    I’m telling you they don’t.

    I never take anyone’s word alone for their motives. I always include their actions.

    Guess which I place more importance on.

    Guess which tells me more.

  26. Quartermaster
    March 30th, 2016 @ 3:33 pm

    What I “believe” doesn’t matter. And that’s the point in all of this. God doesn’t care what you or I believe. He is the only reality.

    I really don’t care what those voices in your head are telling you. What matters, and the only thing that matters is what God has to say to both of us, and the rest of the world:

    “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

    And, as it has already been pointed out:

    “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18

    Or “live and let live,” for now.

  27. NeoWayland
    March 30th, 2016 @ 4:25 pm

    ?He is the only reality.?

    You believe that, but you have no proof other than faith.

    I do not believe as you do.

    I have my own beliefs, they are at least as real to me as yours are to you.

    I’ve no proof other than faith.

    Live and let live.

    Neighbor.

  28. Quartermaster
    March 30th, 2016 @ 7:43 pm

    It’s not “belief” as you think of “belief.” You do in deed have “faith” but it is not faith based on a firm foundation. It is far different for the Christian.

    I doubt it will make a dent. But you have two paths to choose, the path that mediocrities, such as Bertrand Russel, have blazed, or the path that leads to life. My faith is founded on knowledge and is the equivalent of what you possess.

  29. Quartermaster
    March 30th, 2016 @ 7:52 pm

    You presume on a presumption. You’re truly hilarious. The irony should really burn, but you continue spewing the same nonsense.

    You keep lying about my being desperate about you bowing to my belief. That’s your presumption, and once more ignores my stated motivation for saying what I do. You remind me much of a philosophical mediocrity I encountered many years ago, Bertrand Russel. He argued much as you do and was not above impugning people based on his presumption of their motives.

    If you think I feel “threatened” by your beliefs, then all I can say is you know less about me than you did last time. I have repeatedly said what my motives are and I am anything but “threatened” by the idiocy you’ve spewed. That’s would be one of the funnier things you’ve said if it weren’t so lame.

    For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day. 2 Timothy 1:12

    I have no need to fear anything you have, or spew. No matter how clownish you wish to be, or how mediocre. There is absolutely nothing to fear in what you believe.

    You will, however, have reason to fear the stupidity that you have decided to follow since you have rejected the only reality there is. And, no, I don’t “believe” that, I know it.

  30. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 8:50 am

    Outside of religion, it’s accepted practice to say “I disagree” and both parties move on.

    However, some Christians act as if that’s a full challenge.

    For whatever reason, you feel you cannot allow dissent to your chosen creed. Now, the logical and respectable thing to do would be to accept that some believe differently and not “mark your territory.” It would get you allies and a certain amount of leeway.

    But that’s not the way you’re going to do it, is it?

  31. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 8:55 am

    ?I’m not telling you how, or what, to worship. I’ve simply pointed out the warnings of the consequences of rejecting Christ.?

    Behold the contradiction.

    Or the paradox if you prefer.

    As I told Richard Harold Weatherfield above, if there’s a paradox, chances are pretty good at least one of your core assumptions is wrong.

  32. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 9:01 am

    ?You do in deed have “faith” but it is not faith based on a firm foundation.?

    As opposed to you?

    Who are you to judge what is a “firm foundation?”

    Why do you assume you have that power?

  33. Quartermaster
    March 31st, 2016 @ 9:08 am

    You need to go back and read everything I’ve said. You simply haven’t digested anything I’ve said. You presume and treat your presumptions as fact. You beclown your by doing so, then whine that the other guy is doing bad things to you. Take responsibility for yourself.
    I “allow” dissent all the time. You don’t see it because of the manner in which you conduct yourself here. Others came in here before you did and tried pulling the same trash you have. They were treated no better than you.
    I’m not looking for allies.

  34. Quartermaster
    March 31st, 2016 @ 9:13 am

    Go back and digest what I said earlier. You obviously have not.
    I’ve seen your sort repeatedly. I don’t “assume” to have any power. I can, however, observe and synthesize what I can see into a coherent picture. You have as yet to do that with me because you ignore what was said and simply continue on blindly.

    The fact you have no idea what a firm foundation is places you firmly in the same camp of mediocrities such as Bertand Russell who wasted his life on irrelevancies and simply remembered as “free thinker.”

    Go back and read, actually read, what I’ve said. Watch the You Tube video. If those things give you no idea what is meant by a firm foundation, then you are beyond hope of being the very thing you seem to wish to mark yourself as.

  35. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 9:38 am

    ?You need to go back and read everything I’ve said.?

    No, I don’t think so.

    ?You beclown your by doing so, then whine that the other guy is doing bad things to you.?

    Actually what I do is show that when you can’t handle the argument, you go after the person. It’s amateurish and you can do better.

    ?I’m not looking for allies.?

    You should be.

  36. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 9:49 am

    ?Go back and digest what I said earlier.?

    Why? Would you do that if I demanded that you do it with what I wrote?

    ?I don’t “assume” to have any power.?

    Again, your own words prove my point better than I could. You’re here now, trying to disprove what I wrote, unleashing your “big guns.” That’s an awful lot of trouble to take against one man who is seriously outnumbered and hasn’t really done anything except write “I disagree.”

  37. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 9:52 am

    Can you show how your “firm foundation” is better than mine?

    In fact, let’s take it one step further.

    Can you give me ANYTHING except a vague threat about the afterlife to tell me what a good thing Christianity is and how it is better than my faith?

    I’ve never seen you do that, you know. You recite plenty of afterlife threats, but never any benefits This Side.

  38. Quartermaster
    March 31st, 2016 @ 11:51 am

    You keep making my point for me. It’s as though you’re read nothing I’ve written. All that comes back is your original presumption on a presumption you have presumed I’ve made.
    You’re out numbered? Kinda of a strange assertion since I’m the only one responding to you.

  39. Quartermaster
    March 31st, 2016 @ 11:57 am

    You’ve already rejected Christ, and supposedly you were once a Christian (I doubt that very seriously, but you made the claim), and supposedly are familiar with the “this side” benefits. Since you apostatized, all that’s left are the “threats.”
    Did you take the time to watch the Missler clip? That only scratches the surface. There is far more, but it makes a hash of your claims of a lack of a firm foundation for my knowledge of the truth of scripture.

  40. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 12:11 pm

    The main point I make is that there are different faiths and it’s wrong to act as if Christianity controls the others.

    You wouldn’t stand for it if someone tried to do that to Christianity.

    Parity.

    Live and let live.

    Very simple.

  41. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 12:14 pm

    I’ve never seen you do it for anyone you disagree with.

    Always with the threats.

    Never with the wonders.

    Certainly something to think about.

    You still haven’t established how your “firm foundation” is better than mine.

  42. Quartermaster
    March 31st, 2016 @ 12:35 pm

    You haven’t paid much attention. Either to what I do, how I live (although it’s hard for you do this), and you haven’t paid much attention to what I’ve said. You’d already have your answer if you had.
    You have no “firm foundation.” I’ve already seen that much from the nonsense you keep posting.

  43. Quartermaster
    March 31st, 2016 @ 12:42 pm

    I have no need to look for allies. If you were a Christian you would know why.
    I’ve led you around by the nose. Plied you with everything you needed to see so that you can know that I can handle an argument. I’ve given pointers to find the evidence you need so that you could try to construct a reasonable argument against what I’ve said, yet you keep whining.
    I’ve been in forensic competitions on the collegiate level and more than held my own. Frankly, I’ve yet to see a real argument from you. You have made bald assertions, assertions I’ve seen before and have found utterly contemptible. The indicators are there, yet you are so slow on the uptake that you can’t see what is being done to you.
    By the by, have you watched the Missler clip? Tell me what it’s about and what it says, at the bottom line. Chuck is a brilliant man, and it makes it fairly easy to understand. That just scratches the surface of the “firm foundation” of Christianity.

  44. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 5:03 pm

    So you’ve gone from warning to leading me “around by the nose.”

    Except you haven’t.

    You still can’t address the argument, you have to go after the person..

  45. NeoWayland
    March 31st, 2016 @ 5:10 pm

    So now we’ve come back to where it all began.

    Your problem is that you want me to put your faith first and I tell you “no” because I have something else.

    No other reason.

    You can’t tell me the wonders of Christianity, you can only claim that my faith is lacking because it is not Christian.

    That is just sad.

    ETA: Okay, that was awkwardly worded. Let’s try again.

  46. Quartermaster
    April 1st, 2016 @ 6:35 am

    You can think what you wish. I’ve pushed your buttons aplenty.
    You’ve made no argument to address. You posted plenty of whining, but that’s all you’ve done.

  47. Quartermaster
    April 1st, 2016 @ 6:38 am

    The “wonders” of Christianity are irrelevant to a man who has already rejected.

    We haven’t come back full circle. We are at the logical end in an exchange with a man that has no intention of looking, much less considering, the video to which I posted the link. The reality is, you have utterly no intention of anything that challenges what you already have.

    That’s the sad thing. It is much more sad given the eternal result.

  48. Quartermaster
    April 1st, 2016 @ 7:04 am

    I’ve never made a claim otherwise. It’s you making the claim that I have done so. Such stupidity is what these drag on interminably. Your head is so full of inaccuracies, and you react as though it’s all personal because of what you make up for yourself.
    People make up nonsense about Christianity all the time. If I reacted as you do, I’d never have any peace. It’s sad that people reject Christ, and the eternal consequences are horrific, but that’s their choice. The untruths they tell about Christianity is simply part of the cost of doing business.
    So there’s simply nothing to “stand for” as you put it. It’s part of that vast field of knowledge you are so ignorant of.

  49. Quartermaster
    April 1st, 2016 @ 7:04 am

    The paradox is in your own mind. A usual.

  50. NeoWayland
    April 1st, 2016 @ 8:04 am

    I think you meant “as usual.”