The Bad Men Project

Posted on | September 9, 2013 | 44 Comments

I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was done with her she’d look like Daffy Duck after a safe falls on him. You’d have to peel her off and shake her out like a beach-towel until she got all of her dimensions back.

While researching Hugo Schwyzer, I came across a BuzzFeed story about a disastrous thing called the “Good Men Project,” which had the crazy idea that maleness could be a topic in the way feminists are always writing about What It Means to Be a Woman.

Guys just being guys without being ashamed of it — we don’t need any “studies,” we don’t need any “rights,” and we don’t need permission.

See that’s the thing: Guys who crave female approval so much that they’ll jump through hoops and degrade themselves to get it. The minute you start playing that game, you’ve failed. No woman worth having is interested in a guy without a basic sense of pride.

Frankly, nowadays, there aren’t that many women worth having. I married one. The rest of you losers are on your own.

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44 Responses to “The Bad Men Project”

MrEvilMatt
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/iiKRbIoXoO
MrEvilMatt
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/LScTQylBXR
jwbrown1969
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/ausonFNMcS
Lockestep1776
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/ywWL8czlSI
CHideout
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/ctjuw5zQzb
Citzcom
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/xplZinFExl
jwbrown1969
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/UsLRJe3m6D
Lockestep1776
September 9th, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

The Bad Men Project: Otherwise known as Ace of Spades HQ: I hope this isn’t rude but that Blonde? When I was d… http://t.co/gwlbWt6Uxw
preciseBlogs
September 10th, 2013 @ 12:04 am

The Bad Men Project http://t.co/KRxQ0q5LoB #news #conservative #feminism
M. Thompson
September 10th, 2013 @ 12:19 am

Well, the problem is these days unless you’re part of a group, you aren’t getting anywhere.

We. Are. Doomed.
darleenclick
September 10th, 2013 @ 12:55 am

I started to read the BuzzFeed thing, but when I got to the part where the scribbler described Mandy Marcotte as a “respected” blogger with a biting “sense of humor”, I had a really good laugh and regretted giving any traffic to it.
smitty_one_each
September 10th, 2013 @ 2:08 am

“I started to read the BuzzFeed thing, but when I got to the part where the scribbler described…” — @darleenclick http://t.co/tvFv6SHllh
mahvros27
September 10th, 2013 @ 2:16 am

RT @smitty_one_each: “I started to read the BuzzFeed thing, but when I got to the part where the scribbler described…” — @darleenclick http…
K-Bob
September 10th, 2013 @ 2:30 am

This Mr. Of Spades fellow seems intriguing.

Perhaps we should stop by his establishment and gaze in wonder at what he has wrought. *clicks to the HQ*

My eyes!

My eyes!
1bulwetweft
September 10th, 2013 @ 8:09 am

LOVE Ace and the Moron horde – no beta males (or females) there. They’ve brightened many a dreary day.
archonix
September 10th, 2013 @ 8:18 am

The modern male complaint I tend to encounter most often is that women always date jerks. It’s the thing that seems to drive so much of this male angst about trying to be “nice”. They’re trying to be “nice” but end up in the “friend zone” of the girl who’s always dating a jerk.

Got news for you guys. She’s a jerk too. Jerks date jerks, it’s just one of those facts of life, and if you weren’t so busy chasing jerks with tits you’d realise that there are plenty of nice girls out there who AREN’T jerks.

Of course if you’re chasing jerks with tits, and jerks date jerks, perhaps you need to consider whether you’re really such a “nice guy” after all? Could it be you’re really just a jerk in denial? After all, if you aren’t willing to be friends with a girl – even if she’s not a jerk with tits – then she’s not likely to want to spend much time with you. And lets be honest here fellas, our attempts at being “nice” in exchange for dates are so transparent that we might as well hold up a sign that says “Will trade sandwiches for sex. You whore.”

It doesn’t go across all that well.

Man up and make friends. Just friends. The process of making friends with women is part of our reproductive strategy – it’s how we find out who we’ll be willing to spend a lifetime with. My wife is the best friend I’ve ever had, and she has been since I first met her. She was my friend first, and my lover later.

The “friend zone” is where you start, not where you finish.

Don’t be a jerk who expects sex for being “nice”.
RS
September 10th, 2013 @ 8:58 am

Some thirty years ago, I was chasing a number of young ladies, while at the same time maintaining a friendship with a foreign exchange student whom I’d taken under my wing, never expecting it to become anything other than friendship. We celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary this year. Indeed, God has sense of humor
rmnixondeceased
September 10th, 2013 @ 9:00 am

Today’s youth always seem to take the easy way out of every situation, from who to be friends with to voting. Always follow the herd, never have an original thought or do anything that is not part of “group-think”.
Bad men are needed, are part of what made America great (as well as being problematic too) even when their activities were negative they presented a lesson equally as important as good actions.
I were one, so I know …
rmnixondeceased
September 10th, 2013 @ 9:01 am

Tell me about it!
robertstacymccain
September 10th, 2013 @ 9:23 am

That’s an interesting enough take that I might just turn it into a post, after I write about Syria, which I am obligated once again to do, damn it.
archonix
September 10th, 2013 @ 9:52 am

I’m scared now. 😀
FenelonSpoke
September 10th, 2013 @ 10:16 am

I’m not sure what “pride” has to do with Ace’s comment or “getting permission”. Nobody has to give him permission to what he writes on his blog, and yes, the comment was rude. I assume he knows that or he wouldn’t have asked if it was. Ace is a smart, witty, talented man and writes well and he knows it, but I doubt the PM’s daughter would appreciate the comment. All this stuff where sex is described as “I’d hit that” or “I’d flatten her” seem to be a phenomenon within the past thirty years and it doesn’t make anyone a less than beta male to eschew its use. Ace wanted to do a little writing flourish. He achieved his aim. He’s also smart enough to know that did he use those terms to a woman’s face he either be laughed at or they’d roll their eyes, or maybe not. Maybe today’s women wouldn’t give a darn. And no, not using that language doesn’t mean you’re jumping through hoops to get a woman’s approval.
FenelonSpoke
September 10th, 2013 @ 10:25 am

Meant: “Doesn’t make one a beta male to eschew its use.”
RS
September 10th, 2013 @ 10:39 am

What’s fascinating is that we now have reached a (low) point where people believe these things need to be discussed. The reason for the confusion about “maleness,” is due to the fact that we as a society have ceased to teach the cardinal virtues to our sons, whether through history, direct instruction or example. Indeed, those attributes, which heretofore were a given and approved by society, are now demonized by society in the unending quest to destroy the role of Males in the life of the community, in their relationships and in their families. The method in this madness is it sets up the situation exemplified by the “Julia” in the Obama campaign advert: Government not as “nanny,” but as Überpatriarch.
Peregrine John
September 10th, 2013 @ 11:16 am

For what it’s worth, the sort of woman who goes on about What It Means To Be A Woman is about as valuable in terms of femininity as a man is in terms of masculinity who tries to do the same thing from the male side. So equality actually pretty much worked out in that case. Go team.
Bob Belvedere
September 10th, 2013 @ 11:42 am

Ace has his Beta moments, however.
richard mcenroe
September 10th, 2013 @ 12:08 pm

Putting aside the fact that guys who comment like that are more like 30 Seconds Over Tokyo than The Long and Winding Road…remember, Daffy himself was only good for about five minutes a pop…
Julie Pascal
September 10th, 2013 @ 2:52 pm

It *was* rude. And he wouldn’t have said it to her face or in front of her brother (if she had one), but he wouldn’t DO anything like that either. There was no actual “I want to hurt her” involved. I thought he was a little more over-the-top than usual but in general the language over there does not bother me. Guys shouldn’t have to pretend they don’t notice (and girls notice men, too). We also don’t need to get bent out of shape at a colorful way of saying that a certain person is extremely attractive in a picture.

One thing that I know for sure over at the HQ… The men there respect the women who comment there because no one would *pretend* to respect the women there if they didn’t. Though if they didn’t, the other men would probably squash them flat.
SwiperTheFox
September 10th, 2013 @ 3:09 pm

In short, I think what it takes to be a good man (AND a good woman, for that matter) is a [i]good father[/i]. Blood relations are irrelevant in that– Joseph who raised Jesus was an adoptive father, after all. The important thing is having someone there as the emotional ‘rock’ to show the ability to balance strength and conviction with caring and altruism. It’s not that complicated.
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Alessandra
September 10th, 2013 @ 3:18 pm

It *was* rude.

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Yes, it was rude, demeaning, and exactly the type of exploitative attitude that porn promotes, which obviously just festers in Ace’s mind.

To note: the “when I’m finished with her” – like if she were something he would trash around and then throw away. And the adolescent gabbing and bragging by an adult man of his self-imagined sexual prowess put in a crude way, like a dog humping a leg?

I’m glad where I come from this would be totally unacceptable as public speech. People know the difference between crude and sheety.
Alessandra
September 10th, 2013 @ 3:39 pm

“I’d hit that” or “I’d flatten her” seem to be a phenomenon within the past thirty years and it doesn’t make anyone a less than beta male to
eschew its use.

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It’s exactly the kind of attitude, language and *behavior* that porn promotes!

But which creeps more and more onto TV and movies, and which is very pervasive in young people’s social circles (or perhaps just more visible!)- which means it becomes more and more part of society – as normal!

Another consequence of taking sex out of marriage; there is a very large number of people who are very happy degrading it and cheapening it and thinking it’s all very well and normal.

Did you see the Canadian scandal at Saint Mary’s University?

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Technology/2013/09/06/Canadian-college-student-leaders-quit-over-sex-chant/UPI-59821378475526/

“Dodd, in his statement, said 80 student leaders involved have been required to take part in a sensitivity seminar.”

a sensitivity seminar? .If this were in any way a Catholic U, it would have expelled many, and if this weren’t a sham of a univ. of any kind, it would have done the same.

“sensitivity seminar” – seriously! Expel and send a message.
Badger Pundit
September 10th, 2013 @ 3:53 pm

Stacy,

Actually, though it’s surely hard to keep track of all the left-wing sites you’re forced to read (so your readers won’t have to!), you may recently have read something on “The Good Men Project.”

That’s the site Sarah Alcid used to attack her dad, who paid for her expensive college “education,” for dating after her mom died. See archive.org link in first tweet excerpted here:
http://thebadger14.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/perfectly-normal/

With feminists like Alcid on that site, you know it’s got to be something special.
K-Bob
September 10th, 2013 @ 4:19 pm

The “friend zone’ only sucks when you get moved there after being in the “relationship zone.”

It’s really an exit door with the wrong label.

The K-Missus and I gaze upon the shenanegans of the hookup generation, amazed at all they are missing.
bet0001970
September 10th, 2013 @ 5:18 pm

Yeah, so I went to that site a while back…thinking it was about guys telling other guys to pay child-support, and be there for their kids. You know, to be a man and show some responsibility.

No.

It’s a site for Beta and Gamma males fecklessly attempting to convince each other that “Beta is the new Alpha”. I was repulsed.
bet0001970
September 10th, 2013 @ 5:26 pm

Archonix is absolutely correct. Like is attracted to like. Jerks to jerks, Strong to strong, weak to weak. The idea that opposites attract, for the most part, isn’t really true.

Take abusive relationships for one. Weak-minded men who abuse women, tend to instinctively seek out weak-minded women who are susceptible to abuse. Strong-minded men have no use for such women and instinctively seek out their equals.

Are there exceptions? Sure. But from my observations, this is generally the case. In my own relationship, this is definitely the case. Is it in yours?
thatMrGguy
September 10th, 2013 @ 7:25 pm

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Julie Pascal
September 11th, 2013 @ 12:36 am

I realize this is so yesterday but… You have no notion of what “festers in Ace’s mind.” Not a clue.

I agreed that what he said was rude, I will say it was vulgar, and I said that it would have been socially unacceptable if said to her or her brother (if she had one) but in *substance* it is really no different than penning a hundred words to politely explain that the photo (and likely assumed politics *and* intelligence) triggered a genetically coded “GET THOSE GENES FOR ME NOW” reaction. (Which Ace would probably deny on the specifically *reproductive* aspects, yet the, shall we say, urge remains.)

One need not be rude or vulgar to say it, but there is no doubt at all that it would be *equally* condemned and unacceptable if said in some other fashion. Reading (skimming) through that Good Men article is a good example of how men can not admit to “the flesh” (as a biblical term) but must pretend it doesn’t exist.

Which is, really, insisting that everyone (and by everyone I mean “men”) pretend an untruth is true, somehow, and truth is untrue. Ie., demanding a galactic level of denial of human reality… and somehow that’s supposed to work for us as a species.

We are biological. The automatic assessment of the biological fitness of people we casually meet is how humans behave, even those who behave very well or don’t dwell on it. EVEN when it’s women assessing men. And while I also don’t know what festers in Ace’s mind, I do know that I get as much respect over at Ace’s as I get anywhere else, often more. Plus it’s *real*.

To go back to the Good Men article where so much as admitting that you, as a man, have sexual thoughts when 18 year old girls wear “yoga pants” that lovingly outline every little dip and fold of their behind, crotch, and thigh gap… makes you a BAD MAN. Suggesting that they put some clothes on makes you a VERY BAD MAN.

I suppose the question is… are we women grown up enough to stop the pearl clutching, fainting act, put some pants on instead of paint, and accept truth instead of preferring denial?

Noticing the physical isn’t demeaning except that someone or other decided that it was all or nothing, one or the other. Problem is that that person was wrong and still is wrong and will be wrong tomorrow. The remark was crude, yes, exploitative and dehumanizing, no.
Alessandra
September 11th, 2013 @ 1:19 am

The remark was crude, yes, exploitative and dehumanizing, no.
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Right, because when people are crude to others, they humanize them! And being rude and crude is how people show respect to others!

And you say other people don’t have a clue…

Check out the mirror one of these days…
Julie Pascal
September 11th, 2013 @ 1:29 am

See? You just disrespected me more than I’m ever disrespected at Ace of Spades HQ.

I argued your points, explained my own, and only said that you *can’t* know what is in someone else’s head, which is indisputably true.

And I get ad hominem in return.

I do know *how* to be personal and snotty, if you’d like me to return the favor.
Alessandra
September 11th, 2013 @ 1:35 am

” The remark was crude, yes, exploitative and dehumanizing, no.”

Your words. And that’s a lot more than “I only said that you *can’t* know what is in someone else’s head.

And I think I have a clue about what’s in Ace’s mind.
Eric Ashley
September 12th, 2013 @ 1:24 am

Since Ace is almost certainly a good deal smarter than you, I’m going with probably not.
Alessandra
September 12th, 2013 @ 4:21 am

and that shows how smart you are…
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