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The Dictatorship of Godless Perverts

Posted on | May 28, 2015 | 58 Comments

@GretaChristina is a middle-aged bisexual feminist cat lady atheist blogger. Wait — no, I have not verified that she and her wife Ingrid Nelson actually own cats, but what are the odds, right? However, there is no need to speculate about Greta Christina’s feminism, her atheism or her role as “co-founder and co-organizer of Godless Perverts.”

You are almost certainly wondering, what the heck is that?

Godless Perverts presents and promotes a positive view of sexuality without religion, by and for sex-positive atheists, agnostics, humanists, and other non-believers, through performance events, panel discussions, social gatherings, media productions, and other appropriate outlets. . . .
Godless Perverts is committed to feminism, diversity, inclusivity, and social justice.

So they like diversity in their perversity, you see. These advocates of “diversity” and “inclusivity” cannot tolerate dissent, however, as events at a November 2014 meeting of Godless Perverts proved:

Our topic for the night was the question of when it was appropriate to talk or behave sexually in public places. The discussion was inspired by the controversy over #Shirtstorm and we used it as a launching pad, but the evening wasn’t meant solely as a debate over the issue of Matt Taylor’s shirt.
Unfortunately, we had one attendee who wanted to make it exactly about that. He not only tried to make the case that the shirt was appropriate, but attributed the whole controversy to oversensitive “radical feminists.”
It’s one thing to have differences on the specific issues around #Shirtstorm, but in most contexts, “radical feminism” is one of those red flags that indicates that someone’s less interested in a critique than a dismissal of mainstream feminism. . . .
It became increasingly clear that this individual was not supportive of our mission, and was in fact actively hostile to it. . . . We therefore decided to tell him he was no longer welcome at our meetings.

So much for “inclusivity.” He was both Godless and a Pervert, but some ungodly perversions are more “diverse” than others. This is because, despite her protests that the phrase “radical feminism” signifies only the purpose of “a dismissal of mainstream feminism,” Greta Christina actually is a radical feminist who is engaged in a War Against Human Nature, as her 2007 argument for same-sex marriage made clear:

In order for our society to accept or even tolerate same-sex marriage, a lot of fairly basic, deep-rooted ideas have to change. The way we define family. The way we think of what it means to be a man, and what it means to be a woman. The importance of sex and sexual fulfillment. What we consider natural and normal. Etc., etc., etc.
All of these things shape our practice of marriage, our understanding of what it is and what it’s for. And in order for us to accept or even tolerate same-sex marriage, all of them will need to change.

This means that your “basic, deep-rooted ideas” are wrong, comrade, and your ideas “need to change.” Under the radical feminist regime, everyone must be forced to think exactly what the Godless Perverts tell us to think. No one may be permitted to speak of “what it means to be a man, and what it means to be a woman” except to confirm the radical feminist regime’s Official Truth, namely that “what it means to be a man” is that you are wrong about everything. Perhaps you have forgotten that The First Rule for Men in Feminist Movements is SHUT UP!

Feminists who say their movement is about “equality” are lying. Feminism is a movement about power — absolute and unlimited power . . .

The Dictatorship of Godless Perverts cannot permit anyone to question the regime’s absolute authority. The commissars of the regime will tell you “what it means to be a man, and what it means to be a woman,” and you are not permitted to talk back to them. There can be no discussion or debate. If you do not endorse the Official Truth, you must be silenced. You must be punished if you refuse to repudiate your opposition, because everything you “consider natural and normal” — your “basic, deep-rooted ideas” — “will need to change.”

In the post-Windsor era, Godless Perverts view “the lack of affirmation of [their] beliefs . . . as an act of aggression,” Kirsten Power observes. This is what I’ve called the Compulsory Approval Doctrine, in which the only moral truth is a fanatical certainty in the wrongness of “hate,” so mere disapproval is “hate,” and thus subject to legal sanction.

If you are a normal (feminine) woman who feels normal (heterosexual) attraction to normal (masculine) men, and if you think that being normal is also natural — that’s HATE! You’re obviously some kind of sexist homophobic right-wing religious bigot.

“Feminism teaches young women that men are their enemies and that heterosexuality is a weapon of male supremacy. . . .
“Male erotic interest in women is, according to feminist ideology, the basic cause of women’s ‘humiliation’ as inferiors.”
— Robert Stacy McCain, Sex Trouble: Radical Feminism and the War Against Human Nature, p. 35

Feminists believe marriage between men and women is a “relationship of slavery,” and call for a “revolutionary struggle” to end women’s “oppression” within “the institutions of male supremacy.” Feminist theory teaches that heterosexuality is not natural, that there is no biological basis for normal sexual traits and behaviors, and that there are no real meaningful differences between males and females. Instead, according to feminist theory, these differences are artificial, an illusion manufactured by the ideology of male supremacy, a “social construction” of the gender binary within the heterosexual matrix.

If you call radical feminism what it is, the Godless Perverts will decide you are “no longer welcome at our meetings.” Their response to criticism is invariably to call critics “misogynists” and “rape denialists” and to accuse opponents of “harassment.”

Feminism is a philosophy that is hostile to religion, hostile to freedom and ultimately, hostile to life itself. According to the bisexual atheist Greta Christina, life and death are meaningless:

In the most straightforward literal sense, when you don’t believe in God or an afterlife, there is no meaning of death. Not in any external, objective sense. In the godless universe, death just happens. It doesn’t serve a purpose — there is no purpose.

This is what feminists believe, because feminists are Godless Perverts.

“Especially important is the warning to avoid conversations with the demon. . . . He is a liar. The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us. But he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. The attack is psychological, Damien, and powerful. So don’t listen to him. Remember that — do not listen.”
— The Exorcist (1973)

Avoid conversations with Godless Perverts. Do not listen to them.





 

Category: Feminism, Sex Trouble

Comments

58 Responses to “The Dictatorship of Godless Perverts”

  1. Steve Skubinna
    May 28th, 2015 @ 7:54 am

    “all of them will need to change.”

    If somebody told me that the key to my happiness and self fulfillment was in making everyone and everything around me change, I’d think that person was nuts. That’s one hell of a blind spot, isn’t it?

    “Stupid world isn’t the way I want it. It needs to change, now!”

  2. Fail Burton
    May 28th, 2015 @ 7:57 am

    Greta + Ingrid is mainstream feminism now. They got that part right. All they have to do now is tell everyone how mere equal rights feminists are tools of the cisnormative patriarchy which has enforced its ideology of heterosexuality since that meeting Khufu had in Luxor when he killed all the women who’d designed and built the pyramids in the patriarchy revolution.

  3. aloysiusgilhooley
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:24 am

    Re: “Wait — no, I have not verified that she and her wife Ingrid Nelson actually own cats”

    She has pics of her cats on her twitter stream, for example: https://twitter.com/GretaChristina/status/526033897612509184

    So very reasonable assumption confirmed.

  4. Jim VAT
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:25 am

    Yes, they have cats. The pictures are in her twitter feed.

    For the life of me, I cannot see why Greta is such a hero in the atheist community. Frankly, this is why Atheism+ with its ties to radical feminism have turned so many atheists away from the “movement.” It is one where there is no virtue or vice and the only standard is what feels good.

  5. RS
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:31 am

    If, as she asserts, death has no purpose or meaning, then neither does life beyond immediate personal gratification. Thus, the ultimate personal ethic would be “Live and let live,” thereby making her own organization immoral under her own worldview. “Evangelical Atheism” self-refutes.

  6. Jeanette Victoria
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:48 am

    When you believe in nothing, you’ll fall for anything ~ G. K. Chesterton

  7. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:52 am

    Godless Perverts in Charge? What could go wrong?

    http://www.charonboat.com/2007/11/charonboat_dot_com_russian_butchers.jpg

  8. Jeanette Victoria
    May 28th, 2015 @ 9:17 am

    Not all of us who have cats are freakin’ feminists

  9. Dana
    May 28th, 2015 @ 9:26 am

    Our host quoted Miss Christina:

    What we consider natural and normal.

    What, I wonder, would they ever consider to be neither natural nor normal? Pedophilia, maybe?

  10. RKae
    May 28th, 2015 @ 9:49 am

    There’s an old joke about this.

    Q: What’s the definition of unnatural sex?

    A: Anything that isn’t physically possible.

    I think that might be the single tenet of their faith.

  11. RKae
    May 28th, 2015 @ 9:51 am

    Exactly!

    And another way to look at it:

    If there is nothing after death, then death has ULTIMATE meaning! It’s the absolute end of your party! You must do everything and anything to avoid it! And you must inflict it on those who oppose you.

  12. Fail Burton
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:01 am

    Why are they so crazy for “marriage”? Isn’t that a religious institution? For example, in Brazil, a Catholic country, one often gets married twice: the church wedding and the fully legally sanctioned civil ceremony.

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  14. Toastrider
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:16 am

    They don’t want tolerance, they want approval. It hasn’t occurred to them that while we might tolerate certain things, we certainly might not approve of them, and that trying to force our approval will not end well.

  15. RS
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:20 am

    Godless Perverts is committed to feminism, diversity, inclusivity, and social justice.

    The immediate question is, “Why?” Ignoring the problematic definitions of the first and last terms above, as well as the fact that the group’s own behaviors contradict the dictionary definitions of the middle two terms, what is the moral imperative behind this commitment? What part of atheism allows the formation of moral or ethical judgments about the behaviors of others in a reality where life has no transcendent purpose? If reality is merely the result of the random collision of atoms over the course of eons which continue ad infinitum, then by definition it is “Every man for himself” without philosophical basis for imposing one’s will upon another, other than for one’s own personal and immediate benefit.

    The atheist will undoubtedly respond that morality is based upon mutual benefit and cooperation, in that one’s self-interest is advanced by social cooperation. The problem is, what happens when cooperation is no longer beneficial to me and I have the power to assert my will upon you? What moral basis stops me?

    Evangelical atheists can never answer those questions.

  16. Dana
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:29 am

    Well, there are at least some of them who believe that normal heterosexual copulation is abnormal, unnatural, and just plain rapey.

  17. RS
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:31 am

    The history of the institution of marriage in this country and the Progressive’s takeover of it is quite fascinating. Until 1900 or so, marriage was overseen by religions as a sacrament or ordinance. The state’s involvement consisted of merely legislating against bigamy, polygamy and incest and providing a mechanism for divorce in very restricted circumstances.

    With the advent of Progressivism, the institution began to become a “civil contract” separate and distinct from its religious origins and foundation. With the advent of “no fault” divorce, it lost even it’s vestiges of contract law and became merely a status. At the same time, the state’s involvement with family autonomy became ever more pronounced.

    And so we find ourselves where we are today. I anticipate we will eventually arrive at the European model where the religious aspect of marriage is completely superfluous to the civil status granted by bureaucrats.

  18. Matt_SE
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:36 am

    I know nothing about their group, but I’m gonna guess they think pedophilia (especially if lesbian) is healthy.

  19. totenhenchen
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:50 am

    I don’t think it’s “what feels good” so much as what makes them feel “better than.”

    Since people who practice critical theory render themselves incapable of any sort of real happiness or contentment, nothing tweaks their amygdalae like genuinely happy people.

  20. Fail Burton
    May 28th, 2015 @ 11:00 am

    Hey everybody, let’s ban the incest tabu cuz arranged marriages and justice and mercy and the peace and love will come and we can use patriarchy science to reproduce if we keep enough men alive and oh by the way our darling cat Simone died and we’re having it stuffed and turned into an electric pencil sharpener.

  21. Quartermaster
    May 28th, 2015 @ 11:29 am

    “MARRIAGE: My beautiful wife tells me what to do. ”

    Or as one guy said: “Before I got married, I went where I wanted to go and did what I wanted to do. Nothing changed when I got married. I still went and did what I wanted. She told me where I wanted to go and what I wanted to do.”

  22. TheOtherAndrewB
    May 28th, 2015 @ 11:29 am

    Let us not forget–men and women are absolutely equal to the point of total interchangeability. And men suck.

  23. Quartermaster
    May 28th, 2015 @ 11:32 am

    But I bet you still have bad hair days.

  24. Steve Skubinna
    May 28th, 2015 @ 12:00 pm

    That isn’t my experience – wives seldom tell their husband what he wants to do, they ask him, i.e. “Honey, don’t you want to go pick out new curtains for the kitchen?”

    And unless he’s an idiot, he agrees that, yes, that is precisely what he wants to do.

  25. Quartermaster
    May 28th, 2015 @ 12:22 pm

    That’s how women “tell” you what you want to do. and we want to do those things even if we would rather have heart bypass surgery without anesthesia instead.

  26. Michael
    May 28th, 2015 @ 1:51 pm

    Seems like they’re trying to turn Atheism into a different definition with a motive. They’ve turned a way of life into some sort of movement. Most Atheist turn me away whenever they talk about Feminism and especially when they think they speak for everyone.

  27. The original Mr. X
    May 28th, 2015 @ 3:58 pm

    I don’t think it’s “what feels good” so much as what makes them feel “better than.”
    Or at least “not worse than”. There seems to be a strong strain in progressive thought of “I’m just as good as you!”, and as CS Lewis points out, people who genuinely feel themselves to be as good as others (or better than them) don’t generally feel the need to assert this so often.

  28. The original Mr. X
    May 28th, 2015 @ 3:59 pm

    Ah, but if life has no meaning or purpose, then there’s no obligation on us to be consistent in our beliefs.

  29. The original Mr. X
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:02 pm

    Yeah, if I really believed in moral nihilism, I can’t imagine myself caring much about society as a whole, at least not beyond the level of making sure I could pursue my own desires without undue hindrance.

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  31. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:10 pm

    BWAHAHAHA! Well, the cats are cute, anyway.

  32. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:14 pm

    I anticipate we will eventually arrive at the European model where the religious aspect of marriage is completely superfluous to the civil status granted by bureaucrats.

    Superfluous to the irreligious, but never to God’s people, no matter how few they may become in a society.

  33. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:26 pm

    Ah, but if life brain cell activity has no meaning or purpose, then there’s no obligation on us to be consistent in our beliefs.

    Fixed that for you.

  34. RS
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:26 pm

    I agree, of course. Marriage will always exist as a God-created institution which secular Man will never be able to destroy. My point is, the Progressive Left will continue to try to usurp the functions reserved to God, Marriage and the Family until the end of days.

  35. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:28 pm

    Well, except during the points where they’re busy with other things, such as begging the caves and rocks to hide them from the wrath of God.

  36. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:32 pm

    Visually depicts what RS said: “The problem is, what happens when cooperation is no longer beneficial to me and I have the power to assert my will upon you? What moral basis stops me?”

  37. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 4:40 pm

    You guys totally have a bad attitude about this. You were created by God to provide and protect.

    In the case of kitchen curtains, you are providing me a ride to the home store, and you are providing me with opinions that I can pooh-pooh. You are also protecting our obvious need for new curtains.

  38. Quartermaster
    May 28th, 2015 @ 5:16 pm

    When I provide the car keys, and the checkbook, my provision has ended. If it looks like you’re about to get car jacked, just push that red button next to the stereo and let the guy, while you exit. The explosives I provided will detonate about 30 seconds later to take care of the miscreant.

    You can then turn on the cell phone I provided and call the police and report the car jacking. Do not mention the explosives. Then you can call me, and I’ll come provide a ride back home from the adventure I provided. I’ll even stop by Shoney’s, or a similar eats place, to provide you with a nice meal with the provision of my company included, before I take you back to the home I provided.

    Did you get the curtains? I lost track.

  39. Quartermaster
    May 28th, 2015 @ 5:18 pm

    Does this mean we can kill feminists with extreme prejudice?

  40. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 6:30 pm

    My version is more fun (except the explosives part, which is a long-shot anyway), and compliance with these types of requests could put you on the short list for other perqs, IYKWIMAITYD.

  41. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 6:30 pm

    Yes. With explosives. (See other thread.)

  42. RS
    May 28th, 2015 @ 7:17 pm

    See also this. Mao and Hitler were pikers.

  43. DeadMessenger
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:23 pm

    That’s a vile number, right there. Plus, that’s a potential 55MM taxpayers and future taxpayers we could’ve used right now. And, for that matter, a potential 55MM saved Christians for God’s Kingdom.

  44. RS
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:42 pm

    Those souls are not lost. I shudder when I think that those who willfully shed that innocent blood will one day confront those souls and know every one. I pray daily that they acknowledge their evil, repent and find Grace.

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  46. trangbang68
    May 28th, 2015 @ 8:59 pm

    I think they’re having a convention with their sister organizations; Demonic Degenerates, Satanic Carpet Munchers, Soul Dead Sick Puppies, Nihilistic Necrophiliacs, Amoral Abominations, The sisterhood of the sag, Psychopaths for Baal, and a host of other civic minded groups.

  47. Zohydro
    May 28th, 2015 @ 10:56 pm

    “Do what thou wilt” —Aleister Crowley… These folks are probably involved in OTO and Thelema…

  48. Zohydro
    May 28th, 2015 @ 11:10 pm

    We should add all the world’s victims of abortion to the tally—and add Stalin to the list of pikers!

  49. Bozikek
    May 29th, 2015 @ 2:27 pm

    Vegas said, “no bets! no bets!”

  50. Bozikek
    May 29th, 2015 @ 2:29 pm

    Above all the enemy wishes for corruption of all that is pure and righteous. Never forget they are now openly declaring themselves the enemy of nature and nature’s God.