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Is There Hope for Feminists?

Posted on | June 6, 2016 | 46 Comments


Why does God permit boastful fornicators to prosper? Why doesn’t the Lord visit swift destruction upon the wicked and godless?

My friend Pete Da Tech Guy is a devout Catholic who thinks we should pray for God to save feminists from their satanic folly, but I have difficulty imagining that someone as far gone as Laurie Penny could ever repent. My attitude toward genuinely wicked people — and Laurie Penny is pure evil — is that we should pray their folly soon destroys them. We know that all feminists are eternally doomed to Hell. What we need is for these fools to suffer such catastrophic earthly consequences of their own hatefulness that they can no longer lead others to destruction.

That’s just my opinion, of course, and I’m not sure it’s theologically sound. Maybe it’s even sinful to think that way. However, there may be hope to redeem those lost souls inside the feminist death cult:

Kathleen Taylor, a neurologist at Oxford University, said that recent developments suggest that we will soon be able to treat religious fundamentalism and other forms of ideological beliefs potentially harmful to society as a form of mental illness. . . .
She said that radicalizing ideologies may soon be viewed not as being of personal choice or free will but as a category of mental disorder. She said new developments in neuroscience could make it possible to consider extremists as people with mental illness rather than criminals.
She told The Times of London: “One of the surprises may be to see people with certain beliefs as people who can be treated. Someone who has for example become radicalized to a cult ideology — we might stop seeing that as a personal choice that they have chosen as a result of pure free will and may start treating it as some kind of mental disturbance.” . . .
In 2006, she wrote a book about mind control titled “Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control,” in which she examined the techniques that cultic groups use to influence victims. . . .
She notes correctly that “brainwashing” which embraces all the subtle and not-so-subtle ways “we make people think things that might not be good for them, that they might not otherwise have chosen to think,” is a much more pervasive social phenomenon than we are willing to recognize.

(Hat-tip: Instapundit.) Indeed, most victims of brainwashing — Gender Studies majors, for example — seldom realize they have joined a cult. Some people become so brainwashed they take Laurie Penny seriously.

“Especially important is the warning to avoid conversations with the demon. . . . He is a liar. The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us. But he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. The attack is psychological, Damien, and powerful. So don’t listen to him. Remember that — do not listen.”
The Exorcist (1973)

Of course, we should take Laurie Penny seriously as a manifestation of demonic influence, but otherwise, she’s just a pathetic joke.



46 Responses to “Is There Hope for Feminists?”

  1. Dana
    June 6th, 2016 @ 9:20 am

    In my experience, the people who brag the most about their sexual prowess are the ones who get laid the least.

  2. thesickmanofeurope_com
    June 6th, 2016 @ 9:52 am

    There are guys (I will not call them MEN) out there that will have sex with children….animals…..even dead bodies…..So when some creature like Laurie Penny claims to have loads of sex there is no reason for me to dispute her claim.
    Mind you even another vile and repulsive creature like Jessica Valenti and Gloria Steinem managed to get some chump to put the ring on.
    These are NOT High Sexual Market males…THAT is the difference.
    As long as there are Low Value Thirsty males out there willing to emasculate themselves for these used up broads feminist will exist.

  3. Peregrine John
    June 6th, 2016 @ 10:04 am

    You want catastrophic earthly consequences as a stark demonstration and reminder? You had the answer in the previous article:

    Boys compete with boys and girls compete with girls. This is the natural order, which produces a natural hierarchy and, whatever our own situation might be in terms of this hierarchy, no one with common sense would think the way to “fix” it is to have girls compete against boys.

    Let them. It won’t take long. As someone in that article’s comment thread has already mentioned, it’ll be putting the lie to “identify as” pretty shortly, as one boy is doing oddly well against the track running girls he has decided he’s one of.

  4. Sailorcurt
    June 6th, 2016 @ 10:23 am

    Unfortunately, liberals use these types of things very selectively. You can rest assured that devout Christians will readily be labeled mentally ill, but if you think that they’re favored fanatics will be treated in the same manner, you’re deluding yourself.

    What a world we live in, where the belief that a person of a particular gender can reside in a body of the incorrect physical sex is considered perfectly normal, but having a strong religious conviction that this is neither normal nor healthy is evidence of mental illness.

    As I’ve read elsewhere: George Orwell was providing a warning when he wrote 1984, not an instruction manual.

  5. RS
    June 6th, 2016 @ 10:41 am

    I don’t disagree with praying for another’s repentance and redemption, but by the same token, there’s a reason those Imprecatory Psalms exist.

  6. Durasim
    June 6th, 2016 @ 11:02 am

    The statement from that Oxford neurologist is alarming, but also expected. Progressives and leftists are constantly searching for ways to marginalize and neutralize any societal opposition to their efforts. One of their sure methods has been to employ the psychology-social work-therapeutic complex to brand any dissident as “mentally ill.”

    “She said that radicalizing ideologies may soon be viewed not as being of personal choice or free will but as a category of mental disorder.”

    I think that description certainly applies to hosts of feminists, “queer” activists” and probably a bunch of Muslims too.

    But we know this “mental disorder” categorization will not be applied in a neutral manner. We know what political persuasion of people fill the psychology and social work ranks. This is their way of making sure conservatives, traditionalists, and any non-progressive sorts can be thrown into the loony bin.

  7. Lemuel Vargas
    June 6th, 2016 @ 11:11 am

    All the hot blooded heterosexual males who only wants to have sex w/ as many women then like w/out the consequences must be rejoicing…

  8. NeoWayland
    June 6th, 2016 @ 11:35 am

    All feminists? Doomed to hell?


    Your argument is stronger without the Christian overtones.

  9. Squid Hunt ?Patriarch
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:28 pm

    Psalm 73, my friend.

  10. Squid Hunt ?Patriarch
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:29 pm

    Navy had combined boot camp divisions until the guys started underperforming.

  11. Squid Hunt ?Patriarch
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:30 pm

    The nice thing about mental disorders, too, is that you don’t have to release the nuts until they’re cured.

  12. Durasim
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:32 pm

    Until they’re cured? That is, until they happily chirp that they accept and affirm all of the progressive rainbow precepts and will never dare speak against them again?

  13. Squid Hunt ?Patriarch
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:34 pm

    They can still continue to resist in their minds. As long as they don’t let go there, right?

  14. Durasim
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:36 pm

    Such “useful idiots” were rejoicing when the feminist revolution was in the anarchic “free love” phase back in the 60’s and 70’s. They joined on the leftist crazy train or spoke token support, because they figured this just meant easy and abundant sexual access. It did not stay that way.

    The feminist revolution is now in its “terror” phase. Any hot blooded heterosexual male is a presumed rapist and presumed guilty from the outset, and not just on college campuses.

  15. Durasim
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:38 pm

    ‘How many fingers, Winston?’

    ‘Five! Five! Five!’

    ‘No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there are four. How many fingers, please?’

  16. Kristian Holvoet
    June 6th, 2016 @ 12:43 pm

    “but I have difficulty imagining that someone as far gone as Laurie Penny could ever repent”

    Saul (Paul) did. And he was executing Christions. Of course, it did take a personal interaction with God to accomplish that…

  17. Squid Hunt ?Patriarch
    June 6th, 2016 @ 1:08 pm

    I stopped reading the last time when they arrested him.

  18. CrustyB
    June 6th, 2016 @ 1:46 pm

    I believe it. I’ve seen the receipts for her batteries.

  19. Steve Skubinna
    June 6th, 2016 @ 2:53 pm

    Jeepers. Till now I have never even considered whether Penny Dreadful even had a sex life. And now that she has so graciously informed us all that she does indeed, am I obligated to care?

    Nope. Rodent’s nether regions not provided. The only thing I care remotely about is her display of asinine braggadocio. How pathetic one must be to boast publicly about it. And now I return to not giving a damn.

  20. Steve Skubinna
    June 6th, 2016 @ 2:55 pm

    I expect that a person such as she will only repent after hitting rock bottom, assuming that she’s self aware enough to recognize when she does.

  21. Steve Skubinna
    June 6th, 2016 @ 2:58 pm

    Apparently Hitachi’s best selling product the past several decades is an… um, “appliance” that runs on AC power. I first heard of it recently in a piece by Kathy Shaidle.

    My initial response was “You mean you plug something into a wall outlet and then poke yourself in the hoo-hah with it? Yikes!”

    After some consideration, that is also my second and third response. Maybe I’m just squeamish, but 120VAC getting near my Happy Place gives me the willies.

  22. Quartermaster
    June 6th, 2016 @ 3:11 pm

    More info than I care to have, and we have no way of checking the accuracy of her claim. She’s prolly lying through her teeth, but I really don’t much care either way.

  23. Quartermaster
    June 6th, 2016 @ 3:14 pm

    There are some clips of women getting the Brazilian treatment in their happy places (well not so happy for a brief moment). I can imagine the facial expression if her 120VAC implement suddenly shorted through the tissues of her happy place. I know what it was like to get it across the meat of hand when I was in the 7th grade. I can’t imagine the facial contortions of it bit her “there.”
    Might be funny to watch, though.

  24. GruntOfMonteCristo
    June 6th, 2016 @ 3:35 pm

    “Willies.” Heh. That’s why two-stroke, chainsaw gas engine models are the way of the future. There is a small fire danger, however.

  25. Steve Skubinna
    June 6th, 2016 @ 4:55 pm

    Yeah, I inadvertently shorted across some bare wires many years ago with my hand.

    It was sort of like getting whacked on the funny bone, only more intense.

  26. Steve Skubinna
    June 6th, 2016 @ 4:56 pm

    One application where the extra vibration produced by reciprocating engines is an advantage, I imagine.

  27. Steve Skubinna
    June 6th, 2016 @ 4:57 pm

    As in so many avenues of Social Justice, the Soviet Union pioneered using the psychiatric profession to deal with dissidents.

  28. BLBeamer
    June 6th, 2016 @ 5:08 pm

    “My friend Pete Da Tech Guy is a devout Catholic who thinks we should pray for God to save feminists from their satanic folly, but I have difficulty imagining that
    someone as far gone as Laurie Penny could ever repent”

    I’m with Pete on this one, Stacy. I refer you to Rosaria Butterfield, who could check off every box: atheist, ardent feminist, Marxist, English professor tenured at Syracuse, lapsed Catholic, animal lover, and lesbian in a long term committed relationship.

    Guess what happened? She is now married, with four children and the wife of a Protestant pastor. She got up one morning, left the bed she shared with her lesbian partner, and after going to church she never went back to her sapphic bed. There’s a lot that happened leading up to the “got up” and “never went back” but to find out what it was I refer you to her memoir The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert.

    God’s grace is powerful. The prophet Jonah said it best: “Salvation is of the Lord.” Pete’s take is right on this one.

  29. jolly green
    June 6th, 2016 @ 10:02 pm

    A guy that graduated from Harvard, works in publishing and runs his own start-up isn’t “high market”? Andrew Golis might be stupid enough to marry Valenti, but I’m sure if he wanted to he could have just as easily married someone else. And as for Steinhem: she was married to Christian Bales father who was a very successful businessman, pilot, and the father of Batman. I’m guessing your credentials are nowhere near there’s “red piller”?

  30. Finrod Felagund
    June 7th, 2016 @ 12:32 am

    My experience exactly mirrors yours. Remember the punchline of the Monty Python Nudge, Nudge skit?

  31. Finrod Felagund
    June 7th, 2016 @ 12:36 am

    See also the classic Terry Gilliam movie Brazil.

  32. Finrod Felagund
    June 7th, 2016 @ 12:42 am

    Hm, I hadn’t heard that particular term before. Thanks.

  33. Joe Joe
    June 7th, 2016 @ 1:12 am


  34. Joe Joe
    June 7th, 2016 @ 1:14 am

    You’ve given me some hope. Thanks.

  35. gunga
    June 7th, 2016 @ 10:26 am

    “Why doesn’t the Lord visit swift destruction upon the wicked and godless?” 2 Peter 3:9, John 3:16, Colossians 1:21, Romans 5:10…
    Shorter: because he’s better than we are.

  36. DeadMessenger
    June 8th, 2016 @ 12:40 pm

    “…I have difficulty imagining that someone as far gone as Laurie Penny could ever repent.” See: Doctrine of Election

    Or read here:

    Or watch here:

  37. DeadMessenger
    June 8th, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

    Well, all feminists of the Laurie Penny variety are anti-Christ, and therefore, according to Christian doctrine, without an act of God and repentence, they are doomed to hell. If they are called by God and repent, they can no longer be feminists, because feminism is anti-Christ.

    So all feminists are thus doomed to hell. Facts don’t care about feelings.

  38. DeadMessenger
    June 8th, 2016 @ 12:53 pm

    SHE doesn’t decide anything. God decides, John 6:44.

  39. DeadMessenger
    June 8th, 2016 @ 12:55 pm

    No pain, no gain, right?

  40. NeoWayland
    June 8th, 2016 @ 1:19 pm

    Ah, so any non-Christian should not criticize Laurie Penny because we do not understand the unique threat against Christians that she represents. We should just be quiet and let the wise Christians handle it. Afterwards we should be thankful to Christianity for dealing with the problem.

    Or alternatively, we could say that’s some f*cked up sh*t and take a stand against the FamousFeminists and radical feminists.

    Define the issue solely in Christian terms and you tell your potential allies to take a hike. Is that what you want?

    Is that what you want?

  41. DeadMessenger
    June 8th, 2016 @ 4:51 pm

    That’s not at all what I was saying. I was simply responding to your statement that Stacy’s argument was stronger without Christian overtones. I disagree on that point; naturally I believe that “doomed to hell” is a pretty strong argument.

    I don’t see why Christians attacking feminist arguments from a Christian viewpoint precludes, for instance, pagans attacking feminist arguments from a pagan (or any other) viewpoint, or atheists attacking feminist arguments from an atheist viewpoint, or Milo attacking feminist arguments from a gay man’s viewpoint (“Feminism is cancer. Thank you.”)

    Indeed, feminists are so depraved and insideous, their arguments ought to be attacked by everyone, coming from every viewpoint across the entire spectrum of viewpoints. For that matter, the serious danger of feminism is a thing that any thinking person from any disparate viewpoint can readily agree upon, and attack en masse.

  42. NeoWayland
    June 8th, 2016 @ 5:19 pm

    Because it’s not a “Christian” problem or a “pagan” problem or a “gay man’s” problem.

    It’s a human problem. Milo knows that. He’s not attacking feminism because it threatens gay men. He happens to be a gay who is attacking feminism as terribly bad ideas.

    You and I have both seen people on this site tell me and other non-Christians (or Christians that aren’t Christian enough) that we’ve no business talking about _blank_ subject since we do not understand True Christianity and can not possibly cope with the revealed truth in the Bible.

    Here’s it’s not that Penny is anti-Christ(ian). No, it’s that she’s going straight to the Christian hell for her folly and she can’t get there fast enough.

    And by the way, if I question that, why then I’m anti-Christian.

  43. DeadMessenger
    June 9th, 2016 @ 3:42 am

    Well, we can easily say this:

    “It’s a human problem. Milo DM knows that. [Sh]e’s not attacking feminism because it threatens gay men Christians. [Sh]e happens to be a gay Christian who is attacking feminism as terribly bad ideas.”

    It’s true, though, that you don’t understand true Christianity, nor have most Biblical truths been revealed to you, but I don’t see where anyone precludes you from talking about _blank_ subject because of that. I totally support your free speech, and I believe everyone else here does, too. But I do reserve the right to disagree with you, as I’m doing now. Or even correct a statement you’ve made if it pertains to something I know more about than you do, which would include things like Christianity, childbirth and menopause.

    Here, let me state that I’m a Calvinist who believes in predestination and the doctrine of total depravity, then we can cue a visit from QM, who will tell me I’m wrong and stupid, and also RS, who will say it in a nicer way. See? I get attacked, too. But I’m not offended because I know I’m right (and I think I might write a book of proofs.)

    Also, because I’m Calvinist, I can categorically state that Laurie Penny will go to hell unless God has foreordained her for glorification, then calls her at some point, she is reborn, then subsequently repents and believes. I have no idea who God may call at any point, even you. So I don’t wish her to hell, nor do I want to hurry her along. Because of being a Calvinist, I believe she is totally depraved, as are all men, so to wish her to hell is to wish all people to hell, and that is unloving and not God’s will, per common grace. Things will happen or not according to God’s will and in His timing. But I do state a fact when I say that whosoever does not repent and believe is doomed to judgment.

  44. NeoWayland
    June 9th, 2016 @ 12:20 pm

    Look at this.

    The discussion started about people going to the Christian hell and if they could do anything about that. All through this thread it’s been people have tried to show which part of their belief system is validated by the “sinner’s behavior.”

    Now you’re discussing the flavors of Christianity.

    You don’t think there is any answer except according to your beliefs.

    I disagree. I think reducing the problem to Christian terms deliberately cuts out any non-Christian input.

    I stand by what I said originally.

  45. DeadMessenger
    June 9th, 2016 @ 7:42 pm

    I don’t ever expect to change your mind about anything. But I can disagree with you, and I do. Sometimes. Generally, I agree with you more than I disagree with you, but the world would suck if we all robotically agreed with each other about everything. (Which would be a leftist utopia, I guess.)

    So I feel free to say that it’s true that my belief is that there is no answer to anything except through Christ. And the great thing about this country – at least right now – is that you are free to disagree with me about that, which you obviously do. So, cool.

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