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Feisal’s Mental Jiu-jitsu Revealing Animus

Posted on | August 21, 2010 | 46 Comments

by Smitty

This week’s FMJRA shouts out to all those who are unmoved by the Ground Zero Mosque mastermind, Feisal. Sometimes, even sincere gifts just don’t pass muster, though I’d not accuse Feisal of sincerity. Don’t call the US, dude: We The People will call you. Not real soon, though.

Also, Right Klik points to Delia Lopez, running for Congress to represent Portland, Oregon, a D+19 district (Hah! VA-8 is D+44, and we’re still going to wreck Moran at the ballot box). Go, Oregon! Go, Americans!

On with the show.

Hooray for Hollywood

Fear and Loathing in Hollywood

Ladd Ehlinger Jr. Goes Hollywood

Congratulations, Pamela Geller!

    Pamela Geller Goes Hollywood

    Obama’s Hollywood Disaster

    Great: Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi Have Screwed Up My Last Day in L.A.

    The rest of the Story

    Golden Hover Pony Unavailable. Give Nancy A ‘Palomino’, And For CA-8, John Dennis

    Piece Of Work In Progress Is On The Road Again

    Ground Zero Mosque As An Election Issue

    What Do You Mean, ‘WE’?

    ‘Basically, There’s No Hardcore Ravaging of Women in Novels Anymore. And That’s a Bad Thing.’

    VIDEO: Ronald Reagan Still Kicks Butt

    Bumped: VIDEO: If You Liked Reagan, You’ll Love Whittle

    If There Was Ever A Time To Avoid Triumphalism. . .

    Alyssa Milano Re-Tweeted This, So . . .

    Pacific Ocean Wants To Sue Gulf Of Mexico For Limelight Thuggery

    Liberal Women Try ‘Mama Grizzly’ Shtick: ‘You Know What Threatens Me? My Daughter Not Having the Right to Choose’

    Nancy Pelosi: Don’t Investigate Ground Zero Mosque, Investigate Opponents

    News Flash: Politics Is About Elections

    Ann Coulter to WND: ‘I Speak at Harvard and I Certainly Don’t Endorse Their Views’

    Say Hello to Liberty.com!

    Call Me A Literalist

    How to Get Linked, Lesson One

    Arizona Madness

    Pamela Geller Bikini ‘Scandal’?

    Complex Problems, Simple Solutions

    Associated (Orwellian) Press

    Malibu Plastic Surgeon Dies in Car Crash; Was Driving While Texting About His Dog

    Ace Is Absolutely Killing

    The Obama Obsession

    WARNING: Polls Are Not Campaigns

    I’d Vote For A Frickin’ Wiccan

    DNC Tries to Flush Anti-Bush Ad Down YouTube Memory Hole: FAIL!

    Other FMRJA Roundups:

    Miscellaneous Shouts:

    • Ed Driscoll, on playing the Breitbard card.
    • Paco liked my new Twin Towers idea.

    That’s your FMJRA. All typos are blamed on the nice eye doctor who dilated my pupils. Those kids still couldn’t learn a thing. *rim shot*

    Category: FMJRA Award

    Comments

    46 Responses to “Feisal’s Mental Jiu-jitsu Revealing Animus”

    1. Thomas L. Knapp
      August 21st, 2010 @ 6:47 pm

      Damn. Looks like I missed the deadline.

    2. Thomas L. Knapp
      August 21st, 2010 @ 6:47 pm

      Damn. Looks like I missed the deadline.

    3. Thomas L. Knapp
      August 21st, 2010 @ 2:47 pm

      Damn. Looks like I missed the deadline.

    4. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 7:14 pm

      “Obama and the MFM staked the entirety of their credibility and judgment on the assertion that this was a moderate man interested only in peace, and of course in no way a supporter of terrorism”
      Man, I thought Ace was this giant in the Right, but it turns out he’s just another knucklehead Conservitard.
      BO didn’t stake his credibility anymore than the Right staked their entire credibility on Donald Rumsfeld. Ace’s wishful thinking has gotten the best of him again. In the same post he tries to convince us that Bush calling on Feisal to be his Muslim “ambassador” is irrelevant. Uh huh. Why is Ace so invested in this cheap propaganda?
      “and anyone who suspected otherwise was an ignorant bigot with a heart full of hatred.”
      Uh, yeah. You see, you guys went batshit crazy before you knew anything about the man.Even if Feisal was proven to be a moderate,or the prince of peace himself, you would still oppose the project. That is the definition of bigotry.

      I think reasonable people can agree to wait for the evidence before we rush to judgement. But given the way the Breitbarts of the world work, maybe that’s asking too much from Conservitards.
      You guys just better hope that this isn’t another Shirley Sherrod case.
      I’ll calmly await the outcome…

    5. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 7:14 pm

      “Obama and the MFM staked the entirety of their credibility and judgment on the assertion that this was a moderate man interested only in peace, and of course in no way a supporter of terrorism”
      Man, I thought Ace was this giant in the Right, but it turns out he’s just another knucklehead Conservitard.
      BO didn’t stake his credibility anymore than the Right staked their entire credibility on Donald Rumsfeld. Ace’s wishful thinking has gotten the best of him again. In the same post he tries to convince us that Bush calling on Feisal to be his Muslim “ambassador” is irrelevant. Uh huh. Why is Ace so invested in this cheap propaganda?
      “and anyone who suspected otherwise was an ignorant bigot with a heart full of hatred.”
      Uh, yeah. You see, you guys went batshit crazy before you knew anything about the man.Even if Feisal was proven to be a moderate,or the prince of peace himself, you would still oppose the project. That is the definition of bigotry.

      I think reasonable people can agree to wait for the evidence before we rush to judgement. But given the way the Breitbarts of the world work, maybe that’s asking too much from Conservitards.
      You guys just better hope that this isn’t another Shirley Sherrod case.
      I’ll calmly await the outcome…

    6. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 3:14 pm

      “Obama and the MFM staked the entirety of their credibility and judgment on the assertion that this was a moderate man interested only in peace, and of course in no way a supporter of terrorism”
      Man, I thought Ace was this giant in the Right, but it turns out he’s just another knucklehead Conservitard.
      BO didn’t stake his credibility anymore than the Right staked their entire credibility on Donald Rumsfeld. Ace’s wishful thinking has gotten the best of him again. In the same post he tries to convince us that Bush calling on Feisal to be his Muslim “ambassador” is irrelevant. Uh huh. Why is Ace so invested in this cheap propaganda?
      “and anyone who suspected otherwise was an ignorant bigot with a heart full of hatred.”
      Uh, yeah. You see, you guys went batshit crazy before you knew anything about the man.Even if Feisal was proven to be a moderate,or the prince of peace himself, you would still oppose the project. That is the definition of bigotry.

      I think reasonable people can agree to wait for the evidence before we rush to judgement. But given the way the Breitbarts of the world work, maybe that’s asking too much from Conservitards.
      You guys just better hope that this isn’t another Shirley Sherrod case.
      I’ll calmly await the outcome…

    7. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 7:27 pm

      @Y4E,
      Across the political spectrum of the Ruling Class, one gets the impression that there is significantly more going on behind the scenes.

      Starting with the photo of a young Don Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, right up through Michael Bloomberg going all-in for the Ground Zero Mosque.

      I’m really not much of a supporter for Ron Paul’s non-interventionist ideas–he blithely ignores the last century’s historical complications–but you have to admit that the hand he plays is a consistent one.

    8. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 7:27 pm

      @Y4E,
      Across the political spectrum of the Ruling Class, one gets the impression that there is significantly more going on behind the scenes.

      Starting with the photo of a young Don Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, right up through Michael Bloomberg going all-in for the Ground Zero Mosque.

      I’m really not much of a supporter for Ron Paul’s non-interventionist ideas–he blithely ignores the last century’s historical complications–but you have to admit that the hand he plays is a consistent one.

    9. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

      @Y4E,
      Across the political spectrum of the Ruling Class, one gets the impression that there is significantly more going on behind the scenes.

      Starting with the photo of a young Don Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, right up through Michael Bloomberg going all-in for the Ground Zero Mosque.

      I’m really not much of a supporter for Ron Paul’s non-interventionist ideas–he blithely ignores the last century’s historical complications–but you have to admit that the hand he plays is a consistent one.

    10. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 7:32 pm

      Yeah, there is more than meets the eye when it comes to the upper echelons of power.
      I’m not one for conspiracy theories and in general I feel that speculation is the cute cousin of assumption. And we know what assuming makes of both of us.
      I haven’t familiarized myself with Paul’s ideas. He may be consistent in some areas. But his rhetoric turns me off.
      Now you have to admit, Smitty, that before the Right gets all giddy about these “audio tapes”, that there is the real risk of ending up with some serious egg on their faces. Following the Sherrod fiasco it would be a devastating blow to the credibility of the Right. Everything I have read so far sound really flimsy. Do you think in this digital age that an audio tape will carry much weight?

    11. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 3:32 pm

      Yeah, there is more than meets the eye when it comes to the upper echelons of power.
      I’m not one for conspiracy theories and in general I feel that speculation is the cute cousin of assumption. And we know what assuming makes of both of us.
      I haven’t familiarized myself with Paul’s ideas. He may be consistent in some areas. But his rhetoric turns me off.
      Now you have to admit, Smitty, that before the Right gets all giddy about these “audio tapes”, that there is the real risk of ending up with some serious egg on their faces. Following the Sherrod fiasco it would be a devastating blow to the credibility of the Right. Everything I have read so far sound really flimsy. Do you think in this digital age that an audio tape will carry much weight?

    12. Bob Belvedere
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

      Thanks, Smitty.

    13. Bob Belvedere
      August 21st, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

      Thanks, Smitty.

    14. Adobe Walls
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:52 pm

      Like it or not Know it or not Islam is at war with us. Any rational discussion begins with that premise.
      The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. Choose.

    15. Adobe Walls
      August 21st, 2010 @ 4:52 pm

      Like it or not Know it or not Islam is at war with us. Any rational discussion begins with that premise.
      The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. Choose.

    16. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:54 pm

      @Y4E,
      Casting back over the last 20 years of history, considering recent reads of Aayan Hirsi Ali and Andrew McCarthy, and considering which side the usual idiots are lining up on the issue, I conclude:
      serious consideration of all aspects of the GZM issue is going to make the Left look bad.
      Fortunately, we’re good at avoiding serious consideration, of this and so many issues.

    17. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:54 pm

      @Y4E,
      Casting back over the last 20 years of history, considering recent reads of Aayan Hirsi Ali and Andrew McCarthy, and considering which side the usual idiots are lining up on the issue, I conclude:
      serious consideration of all aspects of the GZM issue is going to make the Left look bad.
      Fortunately, we’re good at avoiding serious consideration, of this and so many issues.

    18. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 4:54 pm

      @Y4E,
      Casting back over the last 20 years of history, considering recent reads of Aayan Hirsi Ali and Andrew McCarthy, and considering which side the usual idiots are lining up on the issue, I conclude:
      serious consideration of all aspects of the GZM issue is going to make the Left look bad.
      Fortunately, we’re good at avoiding serious consideration, of this and so many issues.

    19. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 4:58 pm

      “The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. Choose.”
      Oh gawd, how dramatic! I imagine you typing up that silly sentence while some cheesy action movies soundtrack is playing in the back.
      You ask us to choose? I choose neither. Go suck on that!
      Like it or not, Islam is not at war with us. If you can’t differentiate between some Muslims who want to wage war against us and the whole of Islam then there is little hope for you. Ironically, it is your type of melodramatic fool that some Muslims are betting on to fall for that religious war tripe.
      Sucker!

    20. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:58 pm

      “The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. Choose.”
      Oh gawd, how dramatic! I imagine you typing up that silly sentence while some cheesy action movies soundtrack is playing in the back.
      You ask us to choose? I choose neither. Go suck on that!
      Like it or not, Islam is not at war with us. If you can’t differentiate between some Muslims who want to wage war against us and the whole of Islam then there is little hope for you. Ironically, it is your type of melodramatic fool that some Muslims are betting on to fall for that religious war tripe.
      Sucker!

    21. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:58 pm

      “The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. Choose.”
      Oh gawd, how dramatic! I imagine you typing up that silly sentence while some cheesy action movies soundtrack is playing in the back.
      You ask us to choose? I choose neither. Go suck on that!
      Like it or not, Islam is not at war with us. If you can’t differentiate between some Muslims who want to wage war against us and the whole of Islam then there is little hope for you. Ironically, it is your type of melodramatic fool that some Muslims are betting on to fall for that religious war tripe.
      Sucker!

    22. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:07 pm

      Smitty,
      I’m glad you mentioned “serious considerations”, because i haven’t yet seen the Right engage in any serious consideration of the “GZM”. Up to now, everything has been rumor,innuendo and speculation bordering on paranoia.
      Imagine how powerful a well reasoned argument based on PROOF that Faisal was not an honest broker, how that would play out.
      I disagree that it’s going to make the Left look bad. That’s more wishful thinking than anything else.We will fight the reactionary tendencies of the Right every step of the way until we are confronted with arguments that are not intended to be used for political gain. The Right sees this issue as fodder for their very weak/vague political agenda.
      We get nowhere with these zero-sum games…

    23. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 5:07 pm

      Smitty,
      I’m glad you mentioned “serious considerations”, because i haven’t yet seen the Right engage in any serious consideration of the “GZM”. Up to now, everything has been rumor,innuendo and speculation bordering on paranoia.
      Imagine how powerful a well reasoned argument based on PROOF that Faisal was not an honest broker, how that would play out.
      I disagree that it’s going to make the Left look bad. That’s more wishful thinking than anything else.We will fight the reactionary tendencies of the Right every step of the way until we are confronted with arguments that are not intended to be used for political gain. The Right sees this issue as fodder for their very weak/vague political agenda.
      We get nowhere with these zero-sum games…

    24. RightKlik
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:18 pm

      Many thanks!

    25. RightKlik
      August 21st, 2010 @ 5:18 pm

      Many thanks!

    26. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:32 pm

      @Y4E,
      Up to now, everything has been rumor, innuendo and speculation bordering on paranoia.
      Got a few thousand dead people who, were they still alive, might beg to differ, sir.
      Have you looked in detail at the Sharia Index materials over on Big Peace? (I have not).
      However, having just read Nomad, I can safely assert that Sharia ain’t beanbag.

    27. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:32 pm

      @Y4E,
      Up to now, everything has been rumor, innuendo and speculation bordering on paranoia.
      Got a few thousand dead people who, were they still alive, might beg to differ, sir.
      Have you looked in detail at the Sharia Index materials over on Big Peace? (I have not).
      However, having just read Nomad, I can safely assert that Sharia ain’t beanbag.

    28. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 5:32 pm

      @Y4E,
      Up to now, everything has been rumor, innuendo and speculation bordering on paranoia.
      Got a few thousand dead people who, were they still alive, might beg to differ, sir.
      Have you looked in detail at the Sharia Index materials over on Big Peace? (I have not).
      However, having just read Nomad, I can safely assert that Sharia ain’t beanbag.

    29. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:44 pm

      “Got a few thousand dead people who, were they still alive, might beg to differ, sir.”
      Sorry, please explain this in the context of what I wrote?

    30. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:44 pm

      “Got a few thousand dead people who, were they still alive, might beg to differ, sir.”
      Sorry, please explain this in the context of what I wrote?

    31. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 5:44 pm

      “Got a few thousand dead people who, were they still alive, might beg to differ, sir.”
      Sorry, please explain this in the context of what I wrote?

    32. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:54 pm

      @Y4E,
      When looking at troubled arguments with which it is hard to agree, most of the dodgier stuff seems predicated on narrowing the timespan under consideration. The Left, in the GZM case, seems intent on not considering the 1993 attack on the WTC, and the 2001 attack that took it down, and the friction here, in Europe, and in the Middle East of which the GZM is but a small example.

      So, engaging in a context- and history-free discussion of GZM, you are of course correct; this is, as Kn@ppster would agree, a simple private property issue, case closed, nothing to see here, move on.

      You win, and may your prize not enjoy you in too excruciating a fashion.

    33. smitty
      August 21st, 2010 @ 5:54 pm

      @Y4E,
      When looking at troubled arguments with which it is hard to agree, most of the dodgier stuff seems predicated on narrowing the timespan under consideration. The Left, in the GZM case, seems intent on not considering the 1993 attack on the WTC, and the 2001 attack that took it down, and the friction here, in Europe, and in the Middle East of which the GZM is but a small example.

      So, engaging in a context- and history-free discussion of GZM, you are of course correct; this is, as Kn@ppster would agree, a simple private property issue, case closed, nothing to see here, move on.

      You win, and may your prize not enjoy you in too excruciating a fashion.

    34. Joe
      August 21st, 2010 @ 10:07 pm

      How far from Ground Zero? Here is a spot on comment from an Althouse reader:

      Lincolntf said…
      How far from Ground Zero? Well, for starters how about a building that wasn’t hit by a chunk of the freakin’ jet? This mosque is being planned for WITHIN “Ground Zero”, not outside it.

      8/21/10 10:29 AM

    35. Joe
      August 21st, 2010 @ 6:07 pm

      How far from Ground Zero? Here is a spot on comment from an Althouse reader:

      Lincolntf said…
      How far from Ground Zero? Well, for starters how about a building that wasn’t hit by a chunk of the freakin’ jet? This mosque is being planned for WITHIN “Ground Zero”, not outside it.

      8/21/10 10:29 AM

    36. Kojocaro
      August 21st, 2010 @ 11:14 pm

      just ignore youngforeskin he sides with the jihadists and blames the 9-11 victims existence for their deaths like the good little libtard he is

    37. Kojocaro
      August 21st, 2010 @ 11:14 pm

      just ignore youngforeskin he sides with the jihadists and blames the 9-11 victims existence for their deaths like the good little libtard he is

    38. Kojocaro
      August 21st, 2010 @ 7:14 pm

      just ignore youngforeskin he sides with the jihadists and blames the 9-11 victims existence for their deaths like the good little libtard he is

    39. young4eyes
      August 22nd, 2010 @ 12:38 am

      Joe and Kujo are the shining light of Conservitards.
      Not only that, but they’re more than happy to resort to lying in order to make their baseless, uninformed points…

    40. young4eyes
      August 22nd, 2010 @ 12:38 am

      Joe and Kujo are the shining light of Conservitards.
      Not only that, but they’re more than happy to resort to lying in order to make their baseless, uninformed points…

    41. young4eyes
      August 21st, 2010 @ 8:38 pm

      Joe and Kujo are the shining light of Conservitards.
      Not only that, but they’re more than happy to resort to lying in order to make their baseless, uninformed points…

    42. Obi's Sister
      August 22nd, 2010 @ 1:00 am

      Thanks!

    43. Obi's Sister
      August 22nd, 2010 @ 1:00 am

      Thanks!

    44. Obi's Sister
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:00 pm

      Thanks!

    45. Randy Rager
      August 22nd, 2010 @ 1:40 am

      I can smell the fear and envy from here. The Left is opposed by a supermajority of the American people on this subject, a fact which would give any true democrat pause.

      I guess resorting to kindergarten level ad hom is what the Left does when their childish desires that everyone just get along are thwarted by the true will of the people.

    46. Randy Rager
      August 21st, 2010 @ 9:40 pm

      I can smell the fear and envy from here. The Left is opposed by a supermajority of the American people on this subject, a fact which would give any true democrat pause.

      I guess resorting to kindergarten level ad hom is what the Left does when their childish desires that everyone just get along are thwarted by the true will of the people.