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LIVE AT FIVE – 09.22.11

Posted on | September 22, 2011 | 32 Comments

— compiled by Wombat-socho


TOP NEWS
Cop Killer Executed After 11th-Hour Appeal Fails

Protesters from Howard University demonstrate outside the White House

Texas executes white supremacist for James Byrd killing

Treasury Yield Declines To Record Low On Fed “Twist”
Fed looks to put pressure on long-term debt


House GOP Leaders Regroup After Surprise Loss On Spending Bill
Too tight-fisted for Democrats, too generous for Tea Party



POLITICS
Criticism Increases Ahead Of Debate

Governor Mitt Romney talks during a town hall meeting in Miami

GOP candidates exchange fire on issues, records

Vermont Schools Seek Normalcy Post-Irene

Fullerton Police Charged In Death Of Homeless Man





Ralph Nader Wants A Primary Challenge To Obama

LA County Poverty Jumps For Third Straight Year, Hits 17.5%

In Philly, Higher Poverty, Lower Income

California Couple Fined $300 For Home Bible Study Meetings

Congressman Darrell Issa Targeted By Liberal Critics



THE ECONOMY, STUPID
Fed Outlook, PRC Rattle Investors
Asian Stocks Tumble After Fed Meeting
Mulling Meg Whitman: HP Considers CEO Shakeup
Moody’s Cuts Credit Ratings On BoA, Citigroup, Wells
United Technologies Agrees To Buy Goodrich For $16.5 Billion
Oil Drops To Two-Week Low As Fed Sees Downside Risk; US Pumps More More Crude
“Mango” Update To WinPhone Ready For Rollout
Why Facebook Fatigue Isn’t Helping Google+
10 Reasons Why Google Wallet Won’t Dominate Mobile Payment Space
Verizon Defends AT&T Deal
Get Library Books On Your Kindle



SPORTS
Doubts Gone, Yankees Take Title In AL East

Jorge Posada strokes a two-run single

Double header sweep against Rays and BoSox loss to O’s locks it up

O’s Rally As Reeling Red Sox Blow Late Lead Again

Beebe Out As Big 12 Commish?



NFL Cracks Down On Fake Injuries

Mike Modano Retires After “Amazing” Year With Red Wings

Angels Pull Even With Rays In AL Wild Card Race

Healthy Crosby, Malkin Make Pens Favorites In East

Lannan Finally Notches Win In Philadelphia As Nats Hang On For 7-5 Win



FAMOUS FOR BEING FAMOUS
Fired “Real Housewives” Star Jill Zarin: Show Is Toxic

Jill Zarin


“Nobody likes to not be asked back to the party.”

“Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills” Come Unglued

Courtney Stodden Signs Deal For Reality Show

Emily Deschanel: It’s A Boy!


Minka Kelly Explodes After Groping On “Charlie’s Angels” Set

Gwyneth Paltrow To Do Musical Movie With Ryan Murphy

Denise Richards Turns Down $100K Offer To Appear On “Two And A Half Men”



FOREIGNERS
Palestinians Remain Determined On UN Statehood Bid
PRC Butthurt Over US Deal To Replace Aging Taiwanese F-16s
Taliban Bomber Waited Days To Deliver Lethal Embrace To Rabbani
US Accuses Pakistani Intelligence Of Using Haqqani Network In Proxy War
Kim Jong-Un Unleashes Reign Of Terror
Unathorized Assange Autobiography Due Out
Ahmadinejad Weakened, Isolated As He Faces UN



BLOGS & STUFF
Ann Coulter: Cop Killer Is Media’s Latest Baby Seal
Wizbang: Elizabeth Warren – A Real Live Statist
Hit & Run: San Juan Capistrano Fines Family For Reading Bible Without Permit
Weasel Zippers: Former Solyndra Employee Says “After They Got The Loan Guarantee They Were Just Spending Money Left And Right”
Ricochet: Is Herman Cain VP Timber?
Weekly Standard: Paul Ryan Weighs In On Perry/Romney Social Security Dispute – “They’re Both Right”
Hot Air: Chicago Union Bosses Raking In Millions From City Pension Fund
Power Line: Ron Paul Yuks It Up


For your consideration.
(h/t Troglopundit)

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Comments

32 Responses to “LIVE AT FIVE – 09.22.11”

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  2. Anamika
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 11:09 am

    Dude….you got your links mixed up on the top…

    Cop Killer Executed After 11th-Hour Appeal Fails
    Texas executes white supremacist for James Byrd killing

    You are mixing Georgia “cop killing” (Troy Davis case) with Texas “hate killing”( Lawrence Brewer). Both incidentally executed on the same day.

    The Troy Davis case (which is currently on the top of memeorandum) was the heartbreaker for many. Even the Pope appealed for Troy Davis’ clemency…..

  3. Anonymous
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 11:21 am

    Nope, it was a deliberate juxtaposition. There’s two separate links there.

  4. Anonymous
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 11:40 am

    The heart breaker story, is the Christians being persecuted in San Juan Capistrano. If this were Islamists getting together the moonbats would be outraged. Good work Wombat animika is as always a dungbat.

  5. Bob Belvedere
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 12:28 pm

    Did I miss it or were there no anti-death penalty protesters outside the Byrd murderer’s prison?

  6. Anamika
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

    Got it, Thank You.

  7. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

    I had no problem with the Texas one.  The Georgia one bothers me because I do not want mistakes when it comes to the death penalty.  I would have waited or made it life in prison. 

  8. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

    If they were swingers having a key party, I am pretty sure the cops would not have fined them. 

    They need to tell the city to pound sand and fight this. 

  9. Rob Crawford
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

    What mistakes? No one’s alleged any mistakes.

  10. Rob Crawford
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 2:50 pm

    Nice, peaceful “protestors” waving their fists in the air…

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  12. ThePaganTemple
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

    I was just getting ready to point that out. I thought the left thought it was wrong for the state to execute anybody, no matter what crime they committed or how many of them. I guess since these executions happened at roughly the same time they had to limit themselves to protesting just one of them, huh? I’m guessing they probably flipped a coin to decide which one. Heads, the Georgia case wins, tails the Texas case loses.

  13. ThePaganTemple
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 3:20 pm

    They’re probably angry over all that money wasted convincing old witnesses to change their stories.

  14. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

    Several of the witnesses recanted their testimony.  There is very little evidence linking Davis to the actual shooting.  There is ambiguity about the indentifications.  There were irregularities in how the witnesses saw the accused.  Yeah, there were allegations of mistake. 

    Don’t get me wrong, he might have done it.  But there was enough here to push this one to life in prison as opposed to execution. 

  15. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 4:18 pm

    The Pagan Temple, it is not just the “left.”  I know many pro lifers who are staunch conservatives who are opposed to the death penalty too.  And that is the official policy of the R.C. Church now a days. 

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/His-crime-shocked-the-nation-but-execution-below-2178679.php  Here is the story on the Brewster/Texas execution. 

    Personally, I think the death penalty is justified sometimes (such as Mumia, Brewster, etc.), but we need to be especially careful with it and use it sparingly.  Human beings are not perfect and it is better to not do a few executions of heinous individuals rather than risk the killing of someone who should not have been executed. 

    So if it was my call, I would have held off executing Davis in Georgia.  Hopefully they were correct in executing him. 

  16. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 4:19 pm

    You do not know that to be the case.  Maybe they did lie.  Or maybe they are telling the truth now. 

  17. ThePaganTemple
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:11 pm

    What makes you think the Roman Catholic Church isn’t a leftist organization? It might be the oldest one on the planet. Once you look past their stance on abortion, birth control, and homo issues, they’re as left-wing as they come on almost any other issue, including war, terrorism, national defense and self-defense. Don’t believe me? Look into the pope’s position on war, terrorism, Islam, etc. Ask him or any Catholic clergyman the church’s views of the role of government vis a vie social services, entitlements, welfare, rights for immigrants, including illegal immigrants, gun control, affirmative action, taxes, government spending.

    The Pope would probably even say Islam is a “religion of peace”. Some even go out of their way to provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants. What, just because they do it through the prism of religion means they’re not left-wing? Why do you think most of these people tend to vote Democrat? If it weren’t for the abortion and homo issue a lot more of them would probably vote Democrat.

    I’m not in the least bit impressed that people changed their testimony in the Georgia case. It went all the way to the Supreme Court, and I’m sure they had access to any potentially exculpatory evidence that might have served to overturn the conviction.

    The Pope is as big an ass when it comes to matters like this as Ed ASSNerd and Mikey the Ferrel Bitch or any other anti-death penalty idiot.

  18. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:15 pm

    I am surprised you did not go with Mother of Harlots! 

  19. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

    I do not there there is an inconsistency with being pro life and also saying the death penalty is wrong (leaving killing to issues of self defense and justified war).  With the obvious difference that a fetus hasn’t done anything but lived.  An accused can be quite heinous. 

    I hope you are right about this particular execution.  It would bother me to excute a person by mistake who did not deserve it. 

  20. ThePaganTemple
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

    No I don’t know it, but I’m reasonably sure of it. I also know Ad ASSNerd and Mikey The Ferrel Bitch never met a cop killer they didn’t want to fellate. These kind of people make a game out of playing off people’s sympathies and guilt, and the fact that memories do tend to fade after a number of years. Things become more blurred, so you can legitimately say in a sense, “you know now that I stopped to think about it I’m not really sure I remembered that right. I might have been wrong. It might have been a different guy with a similar appearance. What did he look like again?”

     Yeah, twenty years later they’re not sure they remember it right, but they didn’t seem to have any damn problem remembering it two or three days after the fact. You know, while it was fresh in their minds. These people also love to play off their celebrity status with these people, and believe it or not, with most people that is an incentive. And the more unconscious that incentive is the more effective their tactics can be.

    Also, we’re hearing about the people that changed their eye-witness testimony. What about the other evidence? I don’t know what it is, because they won’t talk about it, even on Fox. But enough people are sure of the legitimacy of the verdict for their family to demand justice be served and for the Supreme Court to not take a whole lot of time upholding it.

  21. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

    And lets not forget the Corey Maye case.  Fortunately he was not executed.  But he shot a cop who busted into his home in the middle of the night by mistake (they had the wrong house).  The cop as the sheriff’s son.  The gun was legal.  There was a joint roach in an ashtray.  They said they annouced themselves.  Maye said he did not hear it, just saw the house were dark and there were intruders in it.  He shot because his young daughter was there and he thought it was a home invasion. 

    He had inadequate counsel, got the death senatance.  Eventually that was commuted, but he was still in jail.   Eventually the prosecutor offered him a deal that he had to plead guilty to felony recklessness in shooting to be let out (after about eight years).  I would have continued to fight to clear my name, but he took it (recognizing it got him out right then). 

    I am not one of those Mumia supporters.  I do not assume the cops are always in the wrong (in fact I presume they are more in the right).  But I do know mistakes can happen and that  cases can go wrong and justice might not be always served. 

  22. ThePaganTemple
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

    Also, I’m not sure but I think the RC Church is also a proponent of the Global Climate Change scam. So what part of them isn’t leftist, exactly? Hell probably the main reason they’re anti-abortion is because they’re at least smart enough to know the only people that get abortions are their fellow left-wingers. They’re probably against homo rights because that’s might spell the end of a major incentive to join the priesthood.

  23. Bob Belvedere
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:31 pm

    TPT: You really should read up on your RCC history.

  24. Mike F.
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:38 pm

    Nope, he did it. Three Airforce airmen in a bus watched him do it, cops found his shorts in his laundry room with the murder victim’s blood all over them but that evidence was suppressed. The defense refused to call the recanters because that would have allowed them to be cross examined.

  25. Mike F.
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:42 pm

    You are incorrect on Catholic dogma.  Even the current version of the catechism specifically states that capital punishment can be a legitimate punishment.  What you are hearing from church prelates are personal feelings only.

  26. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:44 pm

    I disagree with the Catholic Church on some issues.  Let’s just say it is left on some things and conservative on others. 

    That said, here is a pretty good breakdown on the Davis case.  http://www.skepticaljuror.com/2011/09/yellow-and-white-case-of-troy-anthony.html

  27. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:45 pm

    Let me guess, you were a Baptist before you went Agnostic/Athiest? 

  28. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:50 pm

    It is legitimate in a limited way (and obviously in the past it was widely accepted).  But John Paul II made it very clear he was against it (along with abortion, euthanisa, etc.).  The current policy of the church is to generally not support capital punishment. 

  29. Joe
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:51 pm

    I do not care for Asner or Ferrel either. 

  30. ThePaganTemple
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 6:09 pm

    I’ve run the gamut, from Baptist, Church of Christ (the ones that don’t believe in instrumental music), some branch of Pentacostal or Holiness, Roman Catholic, Episcopal, and Hare Krishnas. I didn’t join them mind you, just attended a few services and what not. The only thing I actually ever joined was Church of Christ.

    I even took a few Catholic lessons. Don’t misunderstand me, I actually enjoyed the Catholic liturgy, and think the Mass is beautiful. I used to do the rosary every day. I could go today and fit right in as long as people kept their politics to themselves.

    But facts are facts. They are on balance leftist in their outlook on most things. When it comes to war they don’t like much being straight out pacifists, at least that’s the impression I got from the Pope’s statements regarding Iraq and the war on terror.

  31. Anonymous
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 6:16 pm

    You’ll notice one of the Popes have gone so far as to issue a bull (or otherwise speak ex cathedra) against Catholic participation in or support for executions. So it’s not official policy.

  32. Mike F.
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 6:46 pm

    The Holy Father certainly made it clear that he did not approve of capital punishment but he also knew that it was only his own opinion. He could not abrogate established church teaching.  Also, Wombat needs to understand that papal bulls are not by definition ex cathedra and in fact very few are.  I would like to know the title of the one he thinks prohibits participation in state executions.