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LIVE AT FIVESEVEN – 11.22.11

Posted on | November 22, 2011 | 10 Comments

— compiled by Wombat-socho


TOP NEWS
Defense Hawks Seek To Spare Defense From Deficit Cuts; Obama Says He’ll Veto Any Such Attempt

This pretty much says it all

No escape from Supercommittee fail as Obama brandishes the Veto Pen

Tahrir Square Protests Enter Day 4
Military not siding with the protesters now; Army units standing shoulder-to-shoulder with security forces

Italy Backs Iran Sanctions, Russia Not So Much
Russia calls sanctions “contrary to international law”, Iran laughs derisively



POLITICS
FBI Passed Twice On Bagging Pimentel Before NYPD Arrest

Wannabe terror bomber Jose Pimentel

Second time this year the NYPD has moved when the Bureau wouldn’t

Obama In NH To Push For Payroll Cut Extension

UC Davis Protesters Erect New Camp, Continue Protesting Use Of Pepper Spray

Deval Patrick Signs Casinos Into Law In Massachusetts

Alabama Immigration Crackdown Nails Mercedes Executive

Journalist Protest Police Conduct During #OWS Clearing

Bradley Manning To Have First Hearing Next Month On Wikileaks Charges



THE ECONOMY, STUPID
US Stock Index Futures Signal Mixed Open
Gold Rebounds From Four-Week Low As Debt Concerns Spur Demand
France’s AAA Rating In Tatters As Yields Surge
HP Ptofit Down 91%, But It Beats Expectations
China Herd Follows The Shorts
Treasuries Fall Before Economic Growth, Consumer Spending Data
Facebook Picks HTC To Make Its Smartphone
Bigger Kindle Fires In The Works?
Business Software Alliance Ditches SOPA: “must try harder”
Gates Testifies In Novell WordPerfect Suit Against Microsoft



SPORTS
Chiefs Can’t Hold Down Brady, Lose Big

Pats DB Arrington runs for it after intercepting a Chiefs pass

Brady throws 2 TDs as Patriots rout Kansas City 34-3

Happy To Hear: Sidney Crosby’s All Right

Rich Rodriguez Hired As U. Arizona Football Coach


Greg Halman, 1987-2011

Justin Verlander Wins AL MVP, First Starting Pitcher In 25 Years

NBA Players Merge Lawsuits, No Hearing Date Set Yet

twins Lose Nathan To Rangers

Nationals Pay A Call On Mark Buehrle



FAMOUS FOR BEING FAMOUS
Ashton & Demi Reunite For Weekend Counseling

Kutcher & Moore

Not done talking yet?

Bieber Takes DNA Test

Christina Aguilera Loves Her Curves

Mia Farrow’s Prodigy Son Wins Rhodes Scholarship – Will Woody Congratulate Him?

Katy Perry On Pregnancy Rumors: “Hell, No!”

Another “Bachelorette” Couple Bites The Dust

Jessica Simpson’s Star-Studded Baby Shower

News On “The Dark Knight Rises”

J-Lo, Mark Anthony Have Hookup In Borinquen

Kristin Cavallari Engagement Back On?

Christopher Walken Impersonator Who Fooled The AP Speaks Out



FOREIGNERS
Nuon Chea Defends Actions In Khmer Rouge Genocide Trial
Falling Markets Welcome New Spanish Leader
Turkey’s Erdogan Urges Bashar Assad To Step Down
Aussie Mining Magnate Blasts Obama’s Marine Plan For NT
Kissinger’s Favorite Commie Paves Way For Monti In Italy



BLOGS & STUFF
James Taranto: Pepper…and Assault
NRO Corner: A Romney Supporter Takes On The Newt Surge
Sister Toldjah: CLT Observer – Maybe City Needs A Camping Ban For #OWS, #DNC2012 Groups
Weasel Zippers: Obama’s Labor Department Approves Deal Giving Ex-Solyndra Staff $13K In Federal Aid
Allahpundit: Supercommittee Declares Defeat
Left Coast Rebel: Judd Gregg Nails It On What Ails Our Nation
Atlas Shrugs: Over A Dozen CIA Spies Caught In Iran
Don Surber: The Power To Declare Pizza Sauce A Vegetable
Big Government: Soros Helped Craft Stimulus, Then Invested In Companies Benefiting
OWS Exposed: Occupiers Pledge To Refuse Payment On Student Loans
Newsbusters: Frank Rich Blasts Chris Matthews For Man-Crush JFK Biography


SOTD: No Surrender

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Comments

10 Responses to “LIVE AT FIVESEVEN – 11.22.11”

  1. Cartoon of the day « Don Surber
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 7:34 am

    […] Robert Stacy McCain. […]

  2. Anonymous
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 8:08 am

    I’m not sure how it would be done, but the demotivational poster needs a Slurpee reference somewhere.

  3. ThePaganTemple
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 8:15 am

    So we have a choice. Either let the military spending cuts go through or allow Obama to raise taxes. So what do we do? I’m for giving them the tax hikes, then we’re positioned good when the economy goes down the drain. It won’t be our fault, because we’ve given people plenty of warning as to what the consequences would be. And we should keep warning them, even after we allow the tax hikes, pointing out that this is the only way we can prevent another credit downgrade, but that this is most definitely a Democratic agenda.

    Yeah, it would be a dick move, but so would allowing the military cuts to go through without any idea in the world how they are going to be applied.

    Either way, the economy is going to stay in the shitter. But if we refuse to give Obama the “revenue enhancement” he wants, he can point at us and say its our fault. If we go along with him, we can point to him and say, “this is your doing asshole.”

  4. smitty
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 8:19 am

    I say, Call his petulant bluff. There is no doubt some room for trimming defense, particularly in the acquisition realm, and anyone who denies that may not be reasonable.
    But lets eat his lousy tax hike. I’ll chip in an extra chunk of change to the IRS, knowing that it will further crater the economy.
    What I want from BHO is the explicit admission that we’re doing this for him, and the negative consequences are his shiny albatross necklace.

  5. ThePaganTemple
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 8:40 am

    We should call our Senators and Congressmen and tell them and explain it to them in just this way. Of course some of them are so dumb they might be liable to repeat the reasoning in public, so I don’t know what to do. I don’t think it would be possible to find as many ignorant people in one place as you will find in the halls of Congress. The only thing that keeps that place halfway functional are the crooked bureaucrats that have kept the place going for decades, if mainly for their own benefit. And one of my Senators is Rand Paul, who is as big a libertarian ideologue as his father Ron, though he hides it a little better, but he would be unlikely to play along with this, on the grounds it wouldn’t be “right”.

  6. ThePaganTemple
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 9:18 am

    On the other hand, my other Senator, McConnell, is cynical and Machiavellian enough he could probably appreciate the merits of this plan, and even find some whimsy in it.

    And by the way, Smitty, this plan we’re discussing might well be an admittedly minor example of what you would call “Realpolitik”, if on a limited domestic level. It’s playing to win or at least to advance your overall goals by any conceivable means possible and practical, as opposed to supporting a cause (or a candidate) through some ideological bent based on rightness or wrongness, or worse, sentiment.

  7. Joe
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 10:57 am

    It is a bluff.  The cuts are many months away and Obamna knows it.  This is a political performance of the Nutcracker, where we have to convey to the audience that Obama and his pals are the rats destroying Jobs, Christmas, and the American Economy. 

  8. ThePaganTemple
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 12:55 pm

    And the best way we can convey that message is give the son of a bitch the tax hikes he wants so the majority of the American people can see the results for themselves. Strike that, its not just the best way, its the only way. You have three choices.

    1. Do what I said and let Obama take the blame he would so rightly deserve.

    2. Insist on tax cuts which would improve the economy, whereupon, of course, Obama would take credit, in the unlikely event he agrees.

    3. Keep to our current posture, with the result that nothing gets done one way or another, and as things continue going to hell, guess who gets the blame? Thaaaat’s right, we do.

  9. Anonymous
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 1:40 pm

    As long as Congress was free to just rack up debt, it was easy to give both sides whatever they wanted and just put it on the ol’ tab.

    Now that the debt is an issue that can’t be avoided, the constituencies are going to fight it out on the ground to keep their pieces of the pie.

    And, from a congresscritter’s perspective, there’s just no way around this:

    The grandmas who will send your ass right back to practicing divorce law in Dubuque if you even think about messing with their Social Security checks or raising their Medicare premiums, and those grandmas’ loving (but not loving enough to take care of their oldsters in retirement themselves) families, are a more powerful constituency than the K Street lobbyist for Lockheed Martin who leaves a check under the tree each campaign Christmas.

    In order to balance the budget, the cuts have to come from entitlements as well as from “defense.” But as long as there’s any rope left for Congress to hang itself with, it will continue to run that rope out, and that means that “defense” will take the first hits, because even though that’s politically hard, it’s politically easier than the alternatives.

    If Obama plays his cards right — and he has so far — that goes a long way toward sewing up the election for him next year.

  10. ThePaganTemple
    November 22nd, 2011 @ 4:28 pm

    Oh, have no fear, Obama is going to win next year, I promise you that. There’s too many people that’s damn good and determined to make that happen, and as many of them have an R after their name as a D. You have your establishment Republicans who would rather lose than see actual conservatives win and you have just as many conservatives who just can’t keep their mouths shut about stupid shit like doing away with SS, minimum wage, and every other thing they can think of that’s guaranteed to piss people the fuck off.