May Not Be True That We Have A 1-Party System, But The Theory Explains A Lot

Posted on | December 4, 2014 | 33 Comments

by Smitty

Via Instapundit, “Poll: Americans reject Obama’s immigration order, want illegals out of schools, jobs”

Via Breitbart, emphasis mine:

“The Democratic Party is falling apart on this [Obamacare] and immigration because the numbers are very bad…something is going on. It’s called politics. They just got crushed in the election. Not that the Republican leadership has any idea that the American people just voted to stop Obama not to fall over and surrender, which seems to be their plan now.

Oh, I think the Republican leadership has plenty of ideas. I also think they fear oligarchs, bankers, and their lobbyist minions far more than the GOP fears the voters.

It’s almost as if there is really one Progressive Party, with Democrat and Republican wings, that are doing more jockeying for power than their job. Maybe these illegal immigrants are just shock troops to clear out the native peasantry.

Wouldn’t it be great if there were a document that could clarify the actual purpose of Congress to represent the will of the people, and help resolve such ambiguous matters as the immigration debate? It would have to be a clean, straightforward affair, though; perhaps even as short as the Constitution.

Category: Republicans

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33 Responses to “May Not Be True That We Have A 1-Party System, But The Theory Explains A Lot”

kilo6
December 4th, 2014 @ 9:26 am

Heh, nice job on the Dilbert cartoon.
Do you remember the one (originally from mid 1990s IIRC) where a foreign “airline” used a giant slingshot instead of an aircraft? That image is ripe for reuse too, then again so is 99% of all Dilbert.
K-Bob
December 4th, 2014 @ 11:04 am

The behavior of Republican leadership (and unfortunately far too many rank and filers) is so damn, in-your-face Progressive right now it’s like a really awful, overdramatic stage play from the Vaudeville or silent film years.

The bad guys actually do look like Snidely Whiplash.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120928190501/villains/images/6/63/Snidely_in_tv_series.jpg
Evi L. Bloggerlady
December 4th, 2014 @ 11:18 am

What, meet the new boss, same as the old boss?
Adobe_Walls
December 4th, 2014 @ 12:14 pm

Their fear is that is that if they shut down the government they’ll do poorly in the next election. The reality is they picked up nine senate seats after a 16 day shutdown. I submit that if they had shutdown the government for a month they’d have picked up 18 senate seats.

http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2014/12/simple-arithmetic.html
Art Deco
December 4th, 2014 @ 12:59 pm

I think your problem is that the social dynamics of the Congressional caucus get you people adept at a certain sort of maneuvering and attentive to the granular and mundane concerns of members, but who are otherwise pretty vapid. There are people in Congress who know what they think and can articulate it, but such people are seldom in leadership positions. If you have a careerist who does not know what he thinks (and I suspect that describes Boehner), their opinion is often that of the last person they spoke to (and they’re always speaking to people in the press-lobbyist-fundraiser-krack-kampaign-konsultant nexus). Among their staff, you have the metrocon problem: they’re view is in part a function of who they socialize with, and that’s not anyone like you.
Adobe_Walls
December 4th, 2014 @ 2:43 pm

Boehner knows what he thinks. He thinks if he could get the raucous part of his caucus to just do what he tells them to, he can be historic. He thinks his priorities should be, #1 retain his speaker-ship, which obviously necessitates getting his members reelected. He doesn’t care what that takes. If he thought courageousness or defiance would serve that end better than cowardice or capitulation, he’d find the courage or be defiant. He has small scruples as to means. But even worse his cautiousness produces paralysis by over analysis. He believes there are dozens of ways to loose his position and only a handful of ways to keep it. It’s fairly simple to do the right, principaled thing if you’er not worried about whether it’s the ”smart” thing to do for you. But if priority #1 is keeping ones position and power, well then one can’t take chances.
?Dave?
December 4th, 2014 @ 3:25 pm

Of course we have a one party system. It is the Incumbrepublocrat Party – a sham duopoly of incumbent ruling elites, tricking complaisant sheeple into believing they need frequent sheering for the welfare of the herd, and have a choice of shepherds; promising, yet never quite providing, eternally green pastures in wolf-free zones. See: http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/essays/incumbrepublocrats/
Finrod Felagund
December 4th, 2014 @ 4:14 pm

_Won’t Get Fooled Again_ was W’s campaign theme song back in 2000. Much better than Fleetwood Mac.
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December 4th, 2014 @ 5:46 pm

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Adjoran
December 4th, 2014 @ 7:34 pm

Face the facts: either we punt into early next year with a short-term extension for ICE, or we shut down the government now.

There is NO scenario where we ‘win’ with a prohibition on spending in this Congress. Reid won’t even bring it up. He will allow a separate shorter-term for the immigration funding. Take it.

You can’t bluff Obama with a shutdown. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, always expecting a different result.
Adobe_Walls
December 4th, 2014 @ 10:44 pm

I get not letting a shutdown happen this year, and I know Obama’s amnesty is mostly just about trolling the Republicans. Maybe Boehner’s outrage about the process is deeply felt and genuine but I doubt it. And maybe letting the states fight it in court, which will if nothing else keep the process issue hotter longer, is the better tactic. What I’m absolutely sure of is that neither Boehner or Mitch McConnell think amnesty is bad policy. That knowledge colors my suspicion about everything thing they do on this issue.
Adobe_Walls
December 4th, 2014 @ 11:05 pm

Hillary corrals the country vote.
GrandsonOGrumpus
December 5th, 2014 @ 12:12 am

Yet, knowing that definition, the hue & cry is still “vote L.O.T.E. b/c at least they’ll stop [insert name of current lawless Proggie here]!”

I said Speaker Smeagol and McColon could roll over fast enough after the election.

The attempt to correct the GOProgressive’s course and put it back on the path of the Constitution has been on-going for more than seventy years— mostly losing ground.

Too many “conservatives” actions and logic show that they approach politics w/a “game” mentality— as long as “their team” wins elections, the governance doesn’t seem to matter… except for the complaining that the people on their team— whom they re-elect each cycle still act as they did every previous term they’ve been in office!

Well, why should they change? It’s not as if they’ll lose their seat over their Liberty killing votes! All they need do is hold up the scarecrow DumperCrats and pretend to disagree and the voters fall into line!
Adjoran
December 5th, 2014 @ 4:15 am

Of course there will eventually be an amnesty. It is simply not avoidable. There is no way to find and deport the illegals who are here and have established themselves unless they commit crimes and are caught – and Obama isn’t even deporting those now.

The key is to pass and require enforcement reform first, before any amnesty can be applied. That includes the border, but just as important are visa tracking and e-Verify. We won’t allow a ‘comprehensive’ package again after the enforcement clauses in ’68 and ’86 were never fully implemented.

We should also be able to block federal benefits and special citizenship ‘paths’ for those here illegally, but that and enforcement is the most possible to achieve. There will be amnesty for those here illegally without criminal records at some point.
Adjoran
December 5th, 2014 @ 4:17 am

So, your alternative strategy is to rant incoherently, then?
Adjoran
December 5th, 2014 @ 4:17 am

May their careers follow hers into the trashbin of history.
smitty
December 5th, 2014 @ 5:00 am

I don’t think she gets too far past Brokeback Mountain.
Bob Belvedere
December 5th, 2014 @ 8:14 am

‘I just can’t quit you, Huma!’
Adobe_Walls
December 5th, 2014 @ 8:57 am

Interestingly the comments are disabled on that YouTube page.
Adobe_Walls
December 5th, 2014 @ 9:05 am

The performers aren’t listed on the YouTube page or the website. I don’t know what the opposite of a fanclub is called but I’m sure one is starting right now.
Art Deco
December 5th, 2014 @ 9:59 am

It is simply not avoidable. There is no way to find and deport the
illegals who are here and have established themselves unless they commit
crimes and are caught – and Obama isn’t even deporting those now.

Rubbish.
JadedByPolitics
December 5th, 2014 @ 10:21 am

Its not like any one of us with a lick of common sense thought this lameduck w/wasn’t going to screw us, its what he does. I am looking to the new congress, they either stiffen up or next year we find primary opponents for them.
Adobe_Walls
December 5th, 2014 @ 10:48 am

Of course amnesty is avoidable, we just don’t pass legislation granting amnesty. As for deportation, someone is working on making a list for us. We could certainly deport far more than we do. One of the key components of immigration reform, equally as important as border/visa security is making it much easier and cheaper to deport people by eliminating the exceptions and caveats. We need to eliminate most of refugee statuses and stop renewing them for victims of floods that happened more than a decade ago. We need to eliminate DNA based immigration. Even accounting for the of lack effort on border security, the amnesty produced by the 1986 reform proves conclusively that giving any kind of pass for illegals is at cross purposes to security.
DeadMessenger
December 6th, 2014 @ 4:34 am

Hell yeah, K-Bob. My only pleasure is listening to Trey Gowdy ream people out, but then….nothing…[crickets chirping].

This is frickin’ ridiculous. If only one single state could be handed over to the normal people to rule as they wish, and then the crazy people, sheeple, Hollywood celebrities and the Black Grievance Industrial Complex could have the rest.

I mean, here we have a President who has a committee of “Czars”. Why are the so-called “conservatives” (bwahahahahaha!) not going bat-crap crazy about that one thing alone, let alone all the hundreds of other things???

Is it just me, or have we entered the Twilight Zone?
DeadMessenger
December 6th, 2014 @ 4:38 am

Boehner is a human Furby. He should be dropped in the middle of Siberia with no access to money or technology and and told that if he can find his way back, he can keep his job.
DeadMessenger
December 6th, 2014 @ 4:40 am

Yes, so he should be horsewhipped, then kicked to the gutter.
K-Bob
December 6th, 2014 @ 4:47 am

It’s surreal, for sure.
Quartermaster
December 6th, 2014 @ 2:08 pm

Just noting the disconnect between the way the GOPe campaigns and what they actually do. So far, I’ve seen nothing from you that might solve the problem of a nihilist GOP “leadership.”
Quartermaster
December 6th, 2014 @ 2:09 pm

Remember you’re dealing with Adjoran. Much of what he posts is rubbish.
Adjoran
December 7th, 2014 @ 5:33 am

There are roughly 2 million custodial arrests made in the US every year by all levels of law enforcement – street cops, sheriff’s deputies, highway patrol, FBI, Secret Service, Park Rangers, etc.

Most of these arrests occur when a person is apprehended in the act or in another crime or traffic violation, or by warrants served on known addresses. Not by locating unknown persons in unknown places.

BUT if they could arrest as many illegals as they do others, it would take every single LEO in the country over five years to make that many arrests – and who would do the jobs they already do every day?

Of course, nothing is impossible to the man who doesn’t have to do it.
Adjoran
December 7th, 2014 @ 5:39 am

Clever refutation!
Adjoran
December 7th, 2014 @ 5:40 am

Thanks for the visual. Asshole.
Quartermaster
December 7th, 2014 @ 10:18 am

Neither clever nor refutation. Mere observation.