by Smitty
Ol’ Doug:
More importantly, though, I think it’s a mistake to say that the protections of the 5th Amendment, or to broaden the argument any of the protections granted to actual and potential criminal defendants under the 4th, 6th, and 7th Amendments as well, were primarily designed to protect the innocent.
I realize that I’m unfit to question your JD-ness, but didn’t Presumption of Innocence kind of inform Law as we (at least once) knew it?
On a superficial level, that simply isn’t supported by the text of the Amendments themselves, which apply to everyone in all situations.
So, the lack of enumeration of every contextual assertion informing the Bill of Rights supports pretending that the first 10 Amendments lack any? I forget where in Amar’s book, but he mentions the sequence of the Amendments, itself, as significant. They are all addenda to specific articles in the Constitution proper, and could have been physically interwoven with the document, just as they are logically. In summary, the Bill of Rights is a gripe list about what happens when power is concentrated excessively. Not dissimilar from our current situation.
Indeed, the 5th Amendment’s right against self-incrimination doesn’t require that there actually be a pending criminal case or investigation, or that the testimony in question take place in a court proceeding connected with criminal charges. As long as their is a possibility that what someone says in a public forum, be it a criminal investigation or a deposition during the course of a civil trial, could potentially used to bring charges against them and prosecute them for a crime then the person being questioned has the right to invoke their rights under the Amendment. It’s not a question of being “guilty” or “innocent,” it’s that the Amendment exists to protect individuals from the state compelling them to testify in any situation, including a Congressional Committee hearing.
OK, so “the government can’t beat it out of you” has evolved into “you don’t have to play”. Right.
I guess that’s the point of a jury of the peers, then: to listen to all of the back-and-forth and render a conclusion. Pleading the 5th on a seemingly trivial issue is going to come across as: “Guilty”.
One can be an IRS apologist to the extent that they have a task that is impossible to accomplish defect-free at the outset, and then point out that there has never been a reasonable reform mechanism.
I understand Lois has pled the Fifth. I even believe she believes she’s innocent, as much as #OccupyResoluteDesk believes he’s Christian. Once accepts these assertions at face value.
The danger to the Fifth Amendment and its protections is a lack of fundamental reform. Lois, herself, is a footnote, and resisting the urge to personalize all this, tempting though it be, is paramount. Alinskyism is false.

