• James Banzer

    You are 100% correct about McGinniss. He is shoddiness personified. He’ll probably make a lot of money, and that will encourage him to go write another book, this time about Rick Perry or some other person who is not liked by the left.

  • DaveO

    This could work!

    Considering Random House’s owners, and McGinniss want to engage the Palins in a costly, subversive lawsuit, having her brother sue them on his own behalf may undermine the publishers and author’s intent.

    And, Chuck Heath Jr. may not be the only person defamed. Class action suit?

  • Quartermaster

    The Sullivan precedent is unconscionable. Just because a person is a public figure does not change the nature of defamation. A public figure has more to lose and making a defamation suit harder solves nothing. It simply deprives someone of their day in court. The 1st amendment is not upheld in any way by the Sullivan doctrine.

    The Supreme Court, alas, is the supreme scoff law.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I want to hear exactly what Glen Rice has to say before I go out on a limb and say its all lies, but its pretty obvious this book was intended as a hit piece. And even if the story about Rice is true, I don’t really give a shit. That was years and years ago, and for that matter, it doesn’t prove a damn thing. So she had sex with some guy before she and Todd were married. I’m not buying the whole meme about how this proves she’s a hypocrite for promoting family values and abstinence before marriage. That’s like saying an ex-drug addict doesn’t have a right to warn kids to stay off drugs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICUSM5QH2DC5LSQLWUEBLHCPMA anthony

    Glenn Rice never admitted to anything in the book.    Joe inferred the was a relationship.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICUSM5QH2DC5LSQLWUEBLHCPMA anthony

    Everything Joe said is complete B.S.    If there was any serious hookups before her marriage especially to former NBA star, it would have definitely came out in the Presidential campaign.      

  • http://ace.mu.nu/archives/279942.php Andrew Sullivan

    Well you have to forgive McGinniss because it is Palin.  Don’t you know, rules of fairness do not apply when it comes to bad mouthing the Palins?  We litterally obsess about her all the time. 

    Look at me. 

  • Anonymous

    Effing Breitbart! How does he work?

    J.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    Why would it have come out if nobody knew anything about it? The point is, its not important. It doesn’t matter. Leaving aside the fact that its really nobody’s business to begin with, outside the principles involved, its playing right into the Democrats and McGinniss’s hands to make out like it does matter. They’re just dying for Republicans, especially Christian conservatives, to get all outraged and scream “there’s no way Sara would do that with a-with a-with a-with a BASKETBALL PLAYER!”

    Don’t you see? The point, as far as leftists are concerned, isn’t whether the story is true or not, the point is how you react to it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICUSM5QH2DC5LSQLWUEBLHCPMA anthony

    What your supposing is Joe is great reporter.     Again what the rumor was according to Joe’s book was they were friendly according to unnamed sources which I believe is quite possibly.     Joe was the one who inserted sex through innuedo.   In fact, Joe admitted he never even ask Glenn Rice if there friendships was  sexual in any way.        Believe me, no stone goes unturned during a national campaign.

    What Joe did was create new accusation to simple sell books and gain attention.

  • http://twitter.com/Weirddave0 Dave

    PT, it’s not even that, it’s simpler and almost funny. The libtard left is so utterly convinced of it’s own narrative that it acts irrationally.  They think we’re all racists, we just are. Any we say to the contrary, anything we do that demonstrates that we aren’t…it’s all just a lie, a BIG LIE! I firmly believe that McGinniss (along with his fellow travelers Olbermann, Maddow, Garofalo, etc) honestly thought, utterly believed, just KNEW, damnit, that the reaction on the right to the Glen Rice allegation would be (apologies for the vile language, I’m trying to convey what they thought we would think, IYKWIM) “OMG! Sarah Palin fucked a nigger!!!! Unclean! Unclean!” and that we would reject Palin utterly en mass because she had allowed the precious flower of her virginal white maidenhead to be violated by a subhuman specimen of the negroid race. Utter bollocks, of course, you know it, I know it, but I don’t think that they know it. They are deeply convinced, on a visceral level, that that’s how we think, and I bet they though that they finally had the stake for the heart of the Palin vampire in this allegation. I bet that many of them are puzzled that it didn’t work like that. Truly puzzled, because of course their assumptions can’t be wrong, so why aren’t we reacting like the troglodytes that we are?

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    Exactly, Dave, you hit the nail on the head. Well, the stated purpose of it was to point out her supposed “hypocrisy”, but the hidden, unstated, real reason is exactly what you said. We’re all supposed to be so disgusted at the thought of Sara getting it on with a black guy it was assumed we would just turn against her, and that would not only be the end of any potential future in politics, it would perhaps even more importantly spell the end of her as any kind of influence at all. After all, those racist Tea-Party groups sure aren’t going to pay her any money to give a speech, or take her advice when she speaks for or against anything, or listen to her when she endorses a candidate. In fact, they probably figured no one from that point on would welcome her endorsement, and would in fact shun such an endorsement. It’s all so obvious what the intention was, its almost sickening and funny at the same time.

  • Anonymous

    That may be the best way to target McGinniss legally – with a non-public figure plaintiff.  I’m convinced that once-respected publishers such as Random House do not limit themselves to a legal analysis when accessing possibly defamatory statements re super-public figures such as Sarah Palin; in borderline cases, they also add practical considerations to the analysis.  They know that defamation plaintiffs concerned with their public image necessarily call attention to the original defamation (and will be mocked for it); they know that the plaintiff will be characterized as “playing the victim” and that news stories of the lawsuit will drown out stories about a politician-plaintiff’s substantive achievements and policy positions.

    Thus, even in the 1 in 10,000 case in which a publisher transgresses the incredibly defendant-friendly “actual malice” standard in public-figure defamation cases, they figure, rightly, that they’ll almost certainly get away with it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICUSM5QH2DC5LSQLWUEBLHCPMA anthony

    Olbermann actually defended Sarah on these accusation.      It’s not the race issue.   Joe is trying to sexualize Sarah.     During the campaign, they were never able to dig up any sex stories on Sarah.     I assuming because they weren’t able to find any.  Believe me if they could have they would have.     She is obviously a nice looking women, and the press would have love the opportunity to speak with past lovers if they would have.    
    Again, Joe was not trying to report actual news.    He is simply out to slander her.    And to assume the story’s truth,  he are giving he credit for digging up something no one else has found.   He is simply not credible.     

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure the research for the book went something like this.
    “Stalking the Dark Lady: An Investigative Journalist’s Tale”

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/stalking-the-dark-lady-an-investigative-journalists-tale/

  • Left Coast Red

    Classic lib ‘nuts and sluts’ attack.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    Emphasis on ‘litter’ in the way you spell literally.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICUSM5QH2DC5LSQLWUEBLHCPMA anthony

    Right on McCain on your follow-up response.     I believe the lies is more insidious than just race.    Joe is implying she is some sort of a slut groupy.   Joe is beyond repair.       As I have said below, he is attempting to sexualize her.          

  • http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2008/09/sullivan-shoots.html Andrew Sullivan

    You must be a hater and a Christianist for defending that Palin! 

  • CalMark

    These scum turned her life over every way possible in 2008–they even dug through her garbage.  How is it even possible that any secrets still remain?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJGP4QXZ5PRW2MFA5E25CV2WNU rosalie

    And have they ever found O’s past girlfriends?  He had to have some relationships along the way.  I wonder how much they were paid to keep quiet?

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