Well why don’t you go ask them yourself?  Cut through the middleman I always say.

Well, yes you can.
Just route things through countries that won’t co-operate with the US. You’ll be able to back trace it that far but no farther.

Of course, the server routing. table’s FIFO, which means a (let’s call it a “routing request” for simplicity’s sake…) a routing request enters the “tail end” of the table and will eventually roll-off the “front” – so if you hacked in and lifted a copy of the table you’d be able to trace through that node…

You’d have to be quick, though! The amount of memory dedicated to the table is finit, so a busy routing table (not on a major hub…) turns over in 5-10 minutes on a slow day and a major hub within seconds.

Bring an order to release routing table records to an internet hub and you’ll hospitalize the operator from laughing at the silliness…

Of course, if you could get an order to proactively keep track of routing tables… and you could do that to enough places so the perp couldn’t simply avoid passing through the “tainted” nodes… you might have something.

But “SWATting”? Come on now! The chumps who do that only do it because they don’t know how to *really* give someone a hard time: change or delete their *entire* online presence. Credit, medical (thanks BO, you moron!), utilities… AND every database you’re in. Give me a week and you’ll vanish (it isn’t hard, !really!).

This guy strikes me as a “chump” (Old-timey talk), or what my Grandson’s generation would call a “script baby”: he frequents blackhat cafes and picks up cookbook methods to harm. Fits the mindset of an Anarchist’s Cookbook bomber!

“Big Bang Theory” fan?  The reference to the bag of burning dog poo is fresh on my mind from a rerun yesterday.

They, reasonably, have no fear of being caught because they know LE isn’t trying to catch them. Even if the local jurisdictions where the SWATtings take place want to pursue the matter the agencies with the necessary resources won’t help.

In many respects we’re on our own.

I think one of the things we can do is put together an informational packet on SWATting [both hard copy  and digital] that includes examples, definitions, etc. and hand it off to several people you trust so that they will be able to turn over the info if anything happens, fatal or not.

Perhaps one should include a copy of one’s basic medical records in the package.

I get what you’re saying.  But if there’s no way to prove who it is then there’s also little chance of proving it wasn’t you in order to defend yourself.  And maybe that’s exactly where we’re headed.  So the question is how in the hell you protect or defend yourself against that kind of attack.  And I REALLY want to know what kind of possibly access or permissions may have been extended to Kimberlin in his 3 year association with the State Department. 

Exactly, and that’s why there are laws against it and ways for the police department to track it down. 

 The DOJ FBI?  Good one.

SDN:
Thank you!
I’ll find it and enjoy reading about it!
I didn’t know about this w/the insulin pump, or that someone had figured it out, but that it can be done is unsurprising.

Being one of those odd birds who *has* to figure out *how* things work, I knew that the more we network everything – from refrigerators to toilet paper dispensers to toothbrushes to pacemakers to insulin pumps to egg timers to heating/cooling controls in houses – the more it is possible to use these things to cause mischief.

I won’t say much about it, but a favorite method of bypassing security is passing a “code bonb” through the buffers of units that talk to each other. Each checks for “evil” code from the “outside” (ie, the network), but usually *not* from a neighboring device.

So to reset the temperature of a freezer you might send the codebomb to a networked toothbrush with instructions to “push” the packet to the freezer.
The packet is “network incoming” to the toothbrush, so it checks the packet and see no danger – toothbrushes don’t change temperature so the codebomb’s just “noise” and is pushed to the freezer.
The freezer is receiving a packet from a “friendly” device, and so (to reduce processing overheard…) doesn’t stringently check the packet! And so it can be done.

We can just tell ‘em we had a Blackberry thingee in our ears.

I have worked near a homeless shelter and when this whole hands-free cell phone thing started, I couldn’t tell who were the loons and who were the normal people anymore – they were all, it appeared, talking to themselves.

 Yeah. I know! I was just thinking maybe low enough down the food chain, you might find someone who still cared about justice.

 You have, eh? Post links or STFU. I don’t like what you’re implying here.

 I don’t care if it’s Rupert Murdoch.