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Gauntlet Thrown Down @ali
UPDATE: An SMS From RSM

Posted on | June 4, 2012 | 92 Comments

by Smitty

 

Ace of Spades: National Day of Blogger Silence — This Friday

On Friday, this site will be absolutely dead-silent, which is what Brett Kimberlin and his stalker crew seeks, and what the media and our supposed Representatives in Congress would permit.
The only post on Friday will be a bold-faced Open Letter to Congress, urging them to act and not attempt to pass the buck to others.
They are our representatives; we would like some representation.
They vowed to defend and protect the Constitution; they can honor that vow now.
I will post links of Congressmen’s and Senator’s email addresses and offices and phone numbers, and urge every concerned American citizen to let them know, in no uncertain terms, that a crime in progress against the First Amendment (and people’s safety) is occurring, and we humbly request they take this seriously.
They are literally going to get someone killed. That is their endgame here.
Will the media and Congress pretend “we didn’t know” when this happens?
ABCNews knows.
The Weekly Standard knows.
The Daily Caller knows.
And many, but not yet all, Congressmen and Senators know.

This blog will (likely) follow Ace’s lead. I’m sure my Congressman will listen to a polite petition. He could surprise me and take action, too. That hope exists.

Update: linked at The Daley Gator

Update II: More at American Power. Furthermore, Stacy spoke to Ali and got this quote:

“World War Three.”

The nature of the offense is that the allegedly Brett Kimberlin-linked site “Breitbart Unmasked” (no linky love for these clowns) apparently thought it was cool to post photos of the location of some family members of Ali.

Now, I have not ever seen Ali in an other-than-gentlemanly mode. I shall strive to keep it that way.

Update III: linked at The Camp of the Saints

Update IV: linked at The Conservatory, Da Tech Guy, and The Lonely Conservative. Plus reporting at Twitchy.

Update V: linkage from The Fellowship of the Perpetually Aggrieved, hogewash, Ameryx le Gallois, Conservative Hideout, and The Rio Norte Line.

Category: The Kimberlin Files

Comments

92 Responses to “Gauntlet Thrown Down @ali
UPDATE: An SMS From RSM”

  1. PaulLemmen
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:14 pm

    Friday on my blog will be silent. Not even the inane or silly posts or those based on religion that I have posted since I posted this last Wednesday: http://wp.me/p27DAO-p9. No Brett Kimberlin, no Neal Rauhauser, no Brad Friedman. Not since last Wednesday.
    Yes, I will be silent on Friday. It’s just another day when you’re gagged.

  2. Yet another blogger being targeted? « The Daley Gator
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:20 pm

    […] at The Other McCain has more as does Ace, who has a plan, and some sage advice On Friday, this site will be absolutely […]

  3. Adobe_Walls
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:30 pm

    They and most of our congress critters will see this as a victory.
    I submit that most in congress would see the end of political blogging from both sides as a blessing.

  4. JeffS
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:38 pm

    Smitty, Ace is also concerned about blind links being posted on threads there — it might be an attempt to capture IP addresses, and get a list of supporters.  I’m not that much of a geek, but I imagine it’s possible.  

    I suggest that we should be concerned here as well.

  5. smitty
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:42 pm

    I surf under Chrome with the Do Not Follow plugin. I recommend everybody use such, and look at the URL peek at the bottom of the screen before clicking.

  6. Ellie Mae
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:52 pm

    I’ve noticed they tend to use cats in their twitter names and pictures. Neal, Shog etc.  The guy who threatened Ali used “catsrimportant”   Anyone else notice that? 

  7. richard mcenroe
    June 4th, 2012 @ 7:54 pm

    I will (continue to) take part in bringing this matter before my Congressdrones… and ones actually like to do something, unlike Berman and Sherman and the CA Senate Bobbsy twins.

    I’m not sure I see the point of silent Friday.  Remember the Great Gay Strike of, what was it, 2009, 2010?  Remember the devastating effect it didn’t have?

    I think I might spend the day posting the addresses and contact information of every organization that allegedy roosts under Velvet Revolution’s umbrella, instead… at least those of them that aren’t empty letterheads.

  8. The #BrettKimberlin Report [D+10]: Ali Akbar And Family Targeted [Updated Below] « The Camp Of The Saints
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:06 pm

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  9. Adjoran
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:16 pm

     I think your idea makes more sense.  Ace is a bit thick sometimes.  If the old media hasn’t picked up this story yet, who is naive enough to believe a day of silence is going to mean anything. 

    Congress can put pressure on to investigate the non-profit funding.  Other than that, what’s the federal role here?  If the SWAT-ing was interstate, they have jurisdiction, but they work under Holder. 

    “Writing your congressman” over stuff they don’t really have much operational control over isn’t going to accomplish much.

    If everyone is taking the day off from blogging, maybe they should form a posse.

  10. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:40 pm

    I’ll be happy to include a link to your page that day.  Like Michelle Malkin observed,  when they threaten you,  say more and say it louder. 

  11. Pablo
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:46 pm

    “Silent Treatment Day” is silly. “Focus On Hammering Your Congressmonkey Day” makes a lot more sense.

    Silence is not action. This situation requires action.

  12. Pablo
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:48 pm

     

    I’m not sure I see the point of silent Friday.  Remember the Great Gay
    Strike of, what was it, 2009, 2010?  Remember the devastating effect it didn’t have?

    Remember the Occupy May Day Strike? Nobody else does. #BecauseFail

  13. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:53 pm

    This will do nothing.  A blogburst was able to affect what was it, PIPA and SOPA because Google and those guys got on it, and it affected their sweet graft deals.  No one is going to run into a Senator’s office and say “Omigod we need to get a CYA statement out quick, Ace of Spades has gone dark!”  

    Here is how to deal with Kimberlin.  He’s a terrorist, right?  Terrorists are cowards.  They attack where they are weak themselves because they know it hurts.  So they posted photos of homes of Ali’s family?  Post pictures of his.  Easy to get, I drove by Kimberlin’s mom’s house the other day, and how cliche, a Prius out front.   Easy to do, and you are on public streets, right?  And why wouldn’t we do it?  Because they will file a lawsuit?  Okay, file a frigging lawsuit on them for this crap, right now!  Subpoena their ISP and hoster.  Don’t we have some tech guys on our side?  Why wouldn’t someone on this side do it?  Afraid because he’s a big scary bomber?  Remember, terrorists are cowards.   

    Ace wants to get Congress to make this crap illegal, well guess what, it already is.  What makes Kimberlin scary is that he has radical ideology married to the power of the state.  If you could get Boehner’s attention, and then have that bill get through Harry Reid’s Senate, you think Eric Holder’s Justice Department would prosecute?  Seriously?  

    Let me be clear – I am in no way advocating anyone do this – but don’t you think that Kimberlin would be a lot less enamored of SWATting if his mom’s house got SWATted?  If Velvet Revolution headquarters were raided for the meth lab there?  

  14. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 8:57 pm

    They are kind of clever, technically.  They break netcraft, never seen that before.  And they host in the UK, so that makes it a little harder jurisdiction-wise, I guess.  

  15. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:00 pm

    You’re right.  We cannot live intimidated or in fear and we certainly can’t be silent or we’ve already lost.  Are you familiar with Ann Barnhardts webpage?  Agree with her or not, she’s got a no holds barred mouth attached to a set of balls made of solid brass, gives detailed directions to her home and invites those who threaten her to bring it on.  Not all of us can do that, be a Barnhardt or Malkin, but some of us will have to.

  16. MrPaulRevere
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:01 pm

    Yes, I did. And regarding JeffS’s concerns in comment #3, if anyone is seriously researching this story as I am, never ever go to any Kimberlin related site without using: http://anonymouse.org/

  17. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:03 pm

    What about Pam Gellar?  Stacy’s had her back for a long time.  She’s got resources.  Where is she on this?  

  18. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:09 pm

    And all of the supporters…..again, and again and again. 

  19. Adobe_Walls
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:17 pm

    I like her pink AR-15.

    While there may be something to be said for expending every keystroke normally spent writing or in my case commenting on blogs hammer and tonging ones elected officials (IMO this effort should include State AGs) I’m doubtful that “Nobody blog about anything day” will raise more awareness than Every Body Blog About Brett Kimberlin Day did.

  20. rrpjr
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:19 pm

    Completely agree with both of you. This “silence” day is a dumb stunt. Barnhardt has it right in every respect. Challenge, confront, dare — never go silent.

  21. Adobe_Walls
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:25 pm

    I support your idea of forming a posse subject to further clarification of the similarities between a posse and a lynch mob.

  22. PaulLemmen
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:27 pm

    One of the first posts I wrote on this was entitled “The War Today”. I’d give you the link, but that might be construed as posting it all over again.

  23. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:27 pm

    Well, if you’re gonna defend your rights sometimes it takes more than a blog or a lawyer.  She’s got the right stance in my opinion.  The state AG’s are a good idea in the states these are taking place.  They are mandated to respond and I know my AG here has each time I’ve raised an issue. 

  24. robertstacymccain
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:37 pm

    I know what Ace is thinking: Why are we carrying water for these spineless Republican pansies in Congress, if they’re going to sit on their cowardly asses while we’re out here being gobbled up one by one, along with our families?

    Loyalty is not a one-way street, eh?

  25. Sanmon
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:41 pm

    I’ll be silent, get some work done around the house or maybe go fishing. I’ll contemplate the value of Blogs and the value of a Glock. Both have there seasons and reasons. E Pluribus Unum also has value and meaning and it is always in season. Liberty is what I live for. And trusting in God is life in itself. Friday is a great day to recharge and revaluate the enemies tactics. They seem to be following the playbook that Saul left behind. Might be time to out manurer them and out flank them.

  26. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:43 pm

    Yes, Yes and Yes.  Folks, we’re just like Arizona here, there are laws to prevent this but they aren’t likely to be enforced.  We’re gonna have to be creative.

  27. This Kimberlin Mess is Out of Control | The Lonely Conservative
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:43 pm

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  28. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:48 pm

    I know what he’s thinking.  He’s a lawyer, he thinks the law means something.  It doesn’t, though.  It surely doesn’t work like it does on TV, where you present a logical case with supporting evidence and then the judgement comes down fairly.  

    Read the transcript of the “trial” in Montgomery County courts.  Think that judge cares one whit about the law?  No, he cares about his power.  He said forget about the First Amendment and that whole precedent from the Supreme Court and listen to *me.*    

    The law is an ass and all that.  The judge also pointed the way to resolution.  Seems to me that *he* was inciting violence.  But I am not a judge so I don’t get to put people in jail based on that opinion.  

    Ace is the man, but it is quaint that he thinks that his silence is going to move the world.   If he is looking for some reciprocity from the Republicans in Congress, he hasn’t been paying attention.  You carry water for Republicans, they’ll take your bucket, punch a hole in the bottom, and hand it back.   

  29. Dianna Deeley
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:50 pm

     Very short list; those “campaigns” are precisely empty letterheads. As to the others? Do you think “Truthout” is terribly, terribly worried by an association with Brett Kimberlin?

  30. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:51 pm

    Good question.  From what they’ve shown us, that’s probably the last place I would expect help or even a response. 

  31. Shawny
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:53 pm

    Geez, I love the way you think!

  32. Datechguy's Blog » Blog Archive » Hmmm History repeats itself Democrats attempting to intimidate a Southern Black Activist & family » Datechguy's Blog
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  33. Ace Calls for Dextrosphere Day of Silence on Friday
    June 4th, 2012 @ 9:59 pm

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  34. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:00 pm

    Hmm.  Breibartunmasked.com, bradblog.com, and velvetrevoution.us all break netcraft the same way.  

  35. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:03 pm

    Also, looks like Kevin Zeese served a letter to National Blogger’s Club with lots of ridiculous requirements such as:

    All cellular phones, personal data assistants (e.g. Blackberry), voicemail messages, text messages (SMS or otherwise), instant messages and/or any other device that stores electronic information (e.g. RAM on printing devices or FAX machines) and the like that existed before the delivery of this letter and that contain relevant data should collected, maintained intact and kept available during the pendency of this litigation

    So, for those who were concerned about donating to National Blogger’s Club, there it is.  

    Of course, this says, hey, we are going to sue you.  Not that we have filed something, but rather we are going to file something.   So I don’t know how much water this holds.  But it has begun.  Gird your loins.  

  36. Zilla of the Resistance
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:05 pm

     Pardon my language, but there’s no nice way to say this: it makes sense because those cretins are total pussies.

  37. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:09 pm

    Zeese a big NORML activist.  Figures.  

  38. MrPaulRevere
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:10 pm

    Why don’t you tell us how they are breaking netcraft instead of posting links to their sites. Just a suggestion.

  39. Adobe_Walls
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:11 pm

    Thank you, I’m afraid it’s often under appreciated.

  40. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:13 pm

     I didn’t post links to their sites, I put the names in and Disqus turned them into links.  Goto netcraft.com (type it in your browser if you’re feeling paranoid about *me*) and then put those urls into netcraft’s “What’s that site running” box.  

  41. MrPaulRevere
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:18 pm

    Thanks for the reply. And regarding attorney Zesse, yep all roads with Kimbelin seem to lead back to reefer.

  42. Dianna Deeley
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:22 pm

    OK, now that I can comment (being home from work), while I think Ace’s idea won’t do much, and I’m not sure congressional action is even proper, I do strongly support finding ways to make threats and menacing behavior on the part of Brett Kimberlin and his associates costly.

    It is probably unwise to publish ideas that sound stalkerish and menacing in their own right. Ace has that one right. But Tides has a reputation to preserve. Start writing to them, asking about their past funding; write to Threshold, and ask them about funding “campaigns” that are nothing more than -as a commenter here remarked – empty letterheads, or websites with very little original content. CC those letters to the IRS.

    It may or may not help. But it’s a lot more likely to begin to pinch Kimberlin’s style than much of anything else. 

  43. blaster
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:24 pm

    According to Zeese’s blurb on HuffPo he is ”
    an organizer of the National Occupation of Washington, DC and one of the original organizers of Occupy Washington, DC.”  

    OWS is supported by President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Fauxcahontas, and lots of high profile Dems.  Plus Men’s Wearhouse!  

  44. PaulLemmen
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:30 pm

    A posse has better quality booze and cute conservative girls with guns.

  45. MrPaulRevere
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:33 pm

    Thanks again blaster, netcraft is a resource I was unaware of. You seem like a real mensch. Carry on…

  46. billphx
    June 4th, 2012 @ 10:50 pm

    God bless and keep you and yours

  47. Ellie Mae
    June 4th, 2012 @ 11:25 pm

    Karma is a bitch isn’t it?  Remember what was done to Rick Santorum googlebombing him with the disgusting sexual crap so that when you look up his name, he’s associated with filth?  Heh heh, tee hee….  I wonder how HWSNBN feels about that tactic being used against him.  Difference is, this is the truth.  I love using making Alinskyites live up to their own rules.  LOL. 

    There seems to be really only 3 of them.  They are legion!  hahahaha

  48. Eric Cumbee
    June 4th, 2012 @ 11:34 pm

    Do Not follow only works if the server honors it.

  49. Dianna Deeley
    June 4th, 2012 @ 11:37 pm

     I’m almost sorry to admit it, but I believe that if you look at the history of LOLcats, you might be just a little surprised to find bchan and 4chan mentioned.

  50. K-Bob
    June 4th, 2012 @ 11:43 pm

    OK, when this thing started being covered by Stacy, there was some “cry” for Ace to get involved.  Hell that alone was covered as though it was a story worth comment.

    So… he’s clearly made the effort.  I’d say join him, or stop bothering him with these things.  Nothing is effective if people don’t get on board.

    In fact, the only way Kimberlin’s abuse of the legal system doesn’t end poorly for the right is for people to get on board. Spend your blog-day contacting representatives.