Geopolitics and ‘Amateur Assclowns’

Posted on | November 18, 2012 | 91 Comments

Daily Caller tech editor Josh Peterson quotes me accurately about the Anonymous hacker war against Israel:

“These people who engage in these attacks don’t know me from Adam, and all they know is ‘Oh, TheOtherMcCain.com has criticized Anonymous,” he said.
He is also critical of the severity of the impact that Anonymous’ activities have on geopolitics, stating that “we may be on the verge of Armageddon” in the Middle East.
“This is serious stuff. This is global geopolitics involved here, and for these amateur ass-clowns, the laptop brigades, to be fucking around here,” said McCain.
“Are they insane?” he said.

Read the rest. Excuse the blunt language, but if these Anonymous hackers think they can side with Hamas against Israel without consequence, they’ve got another think coming. Dude, if the FBI gets you, that’s one thing. If the Mossad ever gets you? Hey, accidents happen:

The Israel Air force struck Hamas leader Ismael Haniyeh’s headquarters in the northern Gaza Strip early Saturday morning, according to the IDF Spokesman’s Office.

Oops. Here’s video from the guided missile camera:

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91 Responses to “Geopolitics and ‘Amateur Assclowns’”

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November 18th, 2012 @ 12:58 am

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crosspatch
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:13 am

Seriously, I hope if someone catches them, they simply go to their home and smash every electronic device they own. All their computers, cell phones, video games, tv set, internet router, pull the cable out from the pole. No police, just break every single electronic device they own and leave.
boballab
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:45 am

Maybe we can ask the Black September terrorist group about what happens when you piss off Mossad…oh wait we can’t since they are all dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God

Even if it takes 20 years they will keep hunting you.
Finrod Felagund
November 18th, 2012 @ 4:56 am

The sad thing is, when these Anonymous goons start biting the dust, we probably won’t even hear anything about it, since Mossad is just that good.
jwallin
November 18th, 2012 @ 6:47 am

“If the Mossad gets you”

Accident?

Died in their sleep.
jwallin
November 18th, 2012 @ 6:49 am

Better yet; take ALL their stuff. That way, they won’t know WHO did WHAT or WHY. But they’ll know that all that data is in someone else’s hands.

Much better to turn bitches like that into quaking in their boots paranoid puddles of fear.
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November 18th, 2012 @ 8:51 am

[…] his warnings about the Mossad are even more valid: Read the rest. Excuse the blunt language, but if these Anonymous hackers think they can side with […]
McGehee
November 18th, 2012 @ 9:26 am

How many Anonymous types are diabetics? I’ve heard wearable insulin pumps can be hacked remotely. It’d be ironic if some Anonymous hacker were the first to die of a computer virus.
richard mcenroe
November 18th, 2012 @ 9:31 am

Died in their sleep. Three times. In the back of their heads.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 9:58 am

As I see it, Anonymous has done more good than harm. They claimed to have kept the execrable Karl Rove from stealing the 2012 US election the way he apparently did in 2004, and that atones for a lot of sins.

Wouldn’t it be something if they showed that the Mossad was behind 9/11? I can’t help but wonder what is in Assange’s Armageddon files, and if they start going after Anonymous, it may cost more than the price of admission….
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 10:59 am

Their “established track record” is that of a bunch of immature kids armed with dangerous weapons f**king with people who don’t like being f**ked with. Generally because the children don’t like them at the moment. Or because someone persuaded Anonymous not to like said targets.

Anonymous generally picks targets that can’t strike back at them, because they hide behind the INTERNET. If Anonymous was so concerned about human rights violations, where are their attacks against China? Iran?

Not buying it, Dissenter. Their track record isn’t as clean as you would like to think.
James Knauer
November 18th, 2012 @ 11:01 am

Calling them “amateur kids” neither reduces their skills nor blunts the effect of their attacks.
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 11:30 am

Granted, even though I didn’t call them “amateurs”.

But they are not considering the full implications — and consequences — of their actions. That’s the hall mark of an amateur….when they start punching above their weight.

And conducting cyber warfare against a significant military power during a war is exactly that. So, in that sense, they are indeed amateurs.

Now, if the Anonymous players are truly the unbiased, independent players they claim to be, they’d be considering the impacts to the Israeli citizens from the Hamas missile attacks.

Which they aren’t. They throw their support to Hamas, an organization with serious credentials as a terrorist group.

So, in that sense, the members of Anonymous are professionals.

Professional terrorists.
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:16 pm

As I see it, Anonymous has done more good than harm. They claimed to have kept the execrable Karl Rove from stealing the 2012 US election the way he apparently did in 2004, and that atones for a lot of sins.

That comment shows you will believe anything, and therefore anything you say can be safely disregarded.
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:19 pm

I hope Mossad does to them what they love to do to others: learn their true identities and that of their families; find porn and passwords and other private data on their computers and send it to their family and friends, and put it on Twitter and other public paste sites.
McGehee
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

Wouldn’t it be something if they showed that Mossad was behind 9/11?

Wouldn’t it be something if they got jobs? And girlfriends?
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:38 pm

Are you a Christian, SC? If so, you don’t have standing to accuse me of being credulous.

As for Rove’s apparent attempt to steal the 2012 election, I note for the record that key parts of the Ohio SOS network crashed at 11:13 PM, exactly as it did in 2004. That identifies it as a Rove hack, as it was too precise to be coincidence. That fact alone raises reasonable suspicion.

When Rove was ostensibly able to hack the vote — his IT man was going to turn state’s evidence, and he died in a suspicious plane crash before he could — the official tally did not match exit polls. In this case, owing to Anonymous’s claimed defense against his hack, the votes matched the polls with astonishing precision. Res ipsa loquitur.
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:55 pm

And an apartment of their own?
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:57 pm

Better re-adjust your foil hat; I think it’s picking up signals from a nearby AM broadcast station.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:58 pm

Ronald Reagan Rules. It’s hard to go after Iran in a way that would do its people any good.

No one likes being f’d with, but their track record is a strong one, as is the case with Wikileaks. Both our plutocratic rulers and the kleptocrats they own deserve to be f’d with. I can’t think of any controversy that either group has been on the wrong side of, morally speaking. Granted, picking a fight with the Mossad is inherently hazardous, but I would defer to Sun-Tzu here. In a guerilla war, the target needs to defend everywhere, and all that Anonymous needs to be able to do is strike them somewhere. Like the American rebels in 1776, they can be hit, but it is not easy to hit them. This is their tactical advantage.

I see this as a part of a war, not unlike the French Revolution. Marie ANNtoinette Romney says, “Let them eat cake!” while the oppressed have nothing to lose but their chains. People die in wars, and Mossad will get their pound of flesh. But it doesn’t mean that said war is not seen as worth fighting.

Anonymous may be many things, but a band of terrorists is not one of them.
Fighting Above One’s Weight | hogewash
November 18th, 2012 @ 12:58 pm

[…] the hacker group Anonymous has taken sides with Hamas and is actively targeting Israeli assets. As Stacy McCain points out, they may be biting off more than they can chew. Mossad has a long and effective […]
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:05 pm

Your problem is a pronounced pro-Israeli bias, which precludes you from viewing the conflict objectively. The right to kill a tyrant is absolute, and a compelling argument can be made for the proposition that the Israeli occupiers are tyrants who have signed their own death warrants. The Israel uber alles crowd might not see it that way, but it is an intellectually respectable position nonetheless.

Remember, one man’s terrorist is another’s freedom-fighter, and Hamas is substantively indistinguishable from Irgun.

No doubt, these guys are taking a serious risk. But perhaps they have counted the cost, and did so knowingly. If they were able to rain Israeli missiles down on Tel Aviv, they might finally force a settlement.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:08 pm

Their skill set is highly marketable; my guess is that they make enough jack.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:09 pm

Are you a Christian, Jeff? If you are, you have no standing to accuse me of being unduly credulous.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:13 pm

And why would this be problematic? If you ain’t got nuthin’, you got nuthin’ to lose. As one of my friends in the pro-life movement puts it, having nothing means that no one can pressure him.
McGehee
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:19 pm

First they “make enough jack” — now they “got nuthin’ to lose.” Which is it, Neal?
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:25 pm

They can make enough jack to live off of, but not have a Romney-esque bank account. Didn’t you live like that in college and grad school?
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:25 pm

That assumes that they want to work.
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:27 pm

Heh — you sure are playing the Christian card today! What, hoping to shame people into silence, if you can’t out debate them?

How pathetic.
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:37 pm

My “problem” is an anti-barbarian bias. Terrorists fit that bill nicely. Hamas is an acknowledged terrorist with extremely close ties to the Gaza government. If they were raining rockets into Egypt, I’d encourage Egypt to defend themselves.

If the IRA were raining missiles into northern Ireland from Ireland, I’d root for the UK to carpet bomb the missile sites. And so on.

In fact, that bias is so deep, that I’m glad to see Hamas members get killed. If they use the children of Gaza as human shields, shame on Hamas.

And I root for Israel over Hamas because Israel is a light of civilization in that sea of darkness known as the Middle East. They got there by blood and battle, and they earned it. Hamas, and their Iranian overlords, would drag everyone back to AD 700, give or take. Except for the weapons technology, of course; that’s too cool for them.

I always root for civilization over the barbarians.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:38 pm

It exposes your hypocrisy. Who in their right mind would believe such potty nonsense, based on the “evidence” on offer? The evidence for criminal activity by Rove and his minions is far more objectively compelling.

Differing weights and measures….
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:38 pm

I see — they work just enough to buy bandwidth and computers, while sponging off their parents.

Makes sense to me.
JeffS
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

Never said I was a Christian, me bucko. Never said I wasn’t. I just said you’re playing a card for the wrong reasons.

Stings, huh?
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:43 pm

Just out of curiosity, do you all wear YOUR tin-foil hats to church? Your facile attempt to shame me into silence deserves proper reciprocation.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:45 pm

Maybe a few do; more likely that they don’t. They might be grad students or even post-docs, buoyed by the heady idealism of youth. When you’re 26, you don’t need 99 point merlot….
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:55 pm

Ever do charity work? Some of us do it for the Sierra Club; they do this.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 1:59 pm

You lose either way. Either you resemble that remark, or you pretty much have to dismiss everyone on the hard right as a tin-foiler. IOW, your attempt to smear me cuts both ways.
Bpseudomallei
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

The reason peope might be attempting to shame you into silence is because you are not offering anything constructive beyond flimsy conspiracies and the sole defense is to ask “are you religious”(excuse me christian – i suppose your dissent doesnt extend to the Prophet binshallah)
Bpseudomallei
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:07 pm

Charity work? If anonymous is playing with targetting systems then any innocent blood is technically on their hands. Since you’re supporting their efforts I have to ask why do you want innocent people to die?
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:08 pm

So, you agree that Menachem Begin was a terrorist and barbarian?

You can’t fault the Palestinians for fighting back in any way they can, as they are the aggrieved party. While I am sure that they would love to fire cruise missiles at military targets from the comfort of their easy chairs in Florida, they must use whatever weapons they have at their disposal.

“Israel” came into being because the Brits broke their word to the indigenous populace — it was their way of solving the European problem of anti-Semitism. Add a massive flood of immigration (kind of like what we’re seeing on our southern border), and you have a Kelo-style land-theft — not at a mishpucha discount, but more like a five-fingered one.

I tend to root for people who have been wrongfully deprived of their rights; I know what we’d be doing, if we were in their place. “Whatever is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow-man. That is the Torah. All else is interpretation.”
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:09 pm

You are so full of it, Dissenter. Israel is completely in the right and the Muslim barbarians are completely in the wrong. As a matter of fact, I just blogged about it. See http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2012/11/i-am-israel-graphic.html
McGehee
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:10 pm

It’s still kind of odd to think that Mossad could be capable — according to you — of staging 9/11 and getting away with it, and yet you think Anonymous would be stupid enough to take on an outfit capable of such a monstrosity.

Anyway, what would be in it for Israel to stage 9/11? Pretend I haven’t already heard this entire same line of lunacy before.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:11 pm

By Jewish standards, there is no innocent blood. Ask the parents of first-born male children of Egyptians massacred by their blood-thirsty god.
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:11 pm

It’s obvious that you are a far-left ideologue who deals in fantasy and self-delusion. Yes, Anonymous is a group of cyber-terrorists who destroy people and ruin lives. And we will get them and take them down. Expect us.
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

You live in a compete fantasy world. Rove didn’t do anything of the sort. If anything, the left stole the 2012 election as evidenced by the fact that, in 59 Philadelphia districts, Romney did not receive a single vote! And no, I am not a Christian, as if they has anything to do with it.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

I wouldn’t put it past Mossad, particularly if they were working in concert with BushCo. And while we might reject it as imprudent (I don’t have a dog in the hunt in the M.E.), sometimes, the bell tolls for you.
Dissenter
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:16 pm

Back in a bit, mi amigos. Real life intrudes….
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:21 pm

Of course you overlook the fact that Islam and its teachings are the entire basis of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Mohammed hated Jews (for rejecting his “prophethood,” and commanded his followers to do the same, to “kill Jews wherever you find them,” and to wage unending war against all mankind until all were either Muslims, slaves or dead. You tend to root for evil because it is in your nature as a leftist to always side with evil against good.
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:23 pm

That’s “mis amigos.” Can’t even get that right.
Stogie Chomper
November 18th, 2012 @ 2:25 pm

Dissenter, you are completely, thoroughly delusional and have nothing credible to say. Go away.