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Ray Moore Is Right!

Posted on | April 23, 2014 | 31 Comments

Ray Moore is a candidate in the South Carolina Republican primary for lieutenant governor. He is also a courageous Christian patriot whom I first interviewed in 2002 when he published a book (and accompanying documentary video) called Let My Children Go. Moore is an advocate of Christian education and a supporter of the homeschooling movement who believes — as do I — that the public school system is hopelessly broken and incapable of reform. So here is the headline on Rebecca Klein’s story at Huffington Post:

GOP Candidate Says Christians
Must Pull Their Kids Out
Of ‘Godless’ Public Schools

That this is a ginned-up liberal hit piece, you can tell by the tendentious use of scare-quotes around the word “godless.”

Is this even a matter of dispute in 2014? Does anyone deny that, as the result of both judicial rulings and institutional policy, the expression of religious belief is prohibited in American public schools? Furthermore, anyone familiar with the curriculum and pedagogy of public schools can tell you that what students are now being taught is an aggressively secular, anti-biblical worldview.

Well, as Joseph said to his brothers in Egypt, what the Huffington Post meant for evil, God meant for good. This attempt to portray Ray Moore as a dangerous extremist is the kind of free publicity that may catapult his candidacy to victory. We’re talking about a South Carolina Republican primary, after all. Being nationally known as the Christian conservative who stands firmly in opposition to godless public schools is probably worth thousands of dollars in contributions and enough extra votes to ensure a spot in the runoff.

Who needs any further argument?


Never miss a chance to defy the godless media.



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  • Steve White

    I don’t know for sure if the public schools are ‘godless’, but they’re demonstrating alarming levels of incompetence, foolishness, chicanery and corruption. Are those reasons enough for home-schooling or private school, or am I required to wait for HuffPo-defined godlessness?

    As Glenn Reynolds points out, it’s just about parental malpractice these days to send your child to a public school.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    Public schools aren’t Godless they have their idol it is Satan they just call him by different names “tolerance” and “diversity”.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    Pretty much says it all

  • RunyonIsDumb

    Yeah, I guess Satan, and “science” are synonymous in your limited worldview. Better to school children in literal, biblical horseshit about the creation of the universe, anti-evolutionary science, and that homosexuals are demons.

    You’re the perfect example as to why schools need to pursue an ‘aggressively secular, anti-biblical, worldview”.

  • AntiScienceCons

    “An aggressively secular, anti-biblical worldview”… mean a scientific, rational worldview, right, that teaches children tolerance for others?

  • RunyonIsEvil

    It’s not that religion is for stupid people, but rather your brand of sub-mental religious fundamentalism that needs to be dropped down a dark hole, and defecated on.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    Retraction due to scientific fraud at all-time high these days! Science was far more honest when we had a moral society. You do realize some of our greatest discoveries were by Roman Catholic priests? Look up Fr Georges Lemaître.

  • Rubix Cube

    Goodnight RunyonIsDumb (i.e. RunyonIsEvil and AntiScienceCons). I suggest you go away and do your homework- throughly, before you pit me against your second-hand general wisdom.

  • RS

    Actually, if you bothered to do any research at all, you’d find that parochial and home schooled children do substantially better on standardized tests, including in math and science than public school graduates. But, then, if you were to do that, we’d be denied the pleasure of seeing what an idiot you are.

  • RS

    Funny. I wonder why families of all races and several different religious traditions are clamoring to get their kids into the Evangelical Protestant High School my kids attend. Could it be the average 29 ACT scores, even though they’re–gasp–required to take theology courses and learn about Creationism, Intelligent Design and Evolution in the science curriculum?

  • Rubix Cube

    At least I can see a troll, masquerading under various pseudonyms.

    Moderator take note, please.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    The IT guy need to bock Tor and proxies it would cut down on the trolls. They are cowards

  • RubixCock

    Really? What are you going to argue? Religious mythology over science? Great!

  • JVES

    Oh, I see, science is now lies because religious conservatives put faith over rational thought. Duly noted. And the Catholic Church had a history of suppressing scientific inquiry, and results.

  • RubixCock

    Wow, you’re sharp!

  • JVD

    If dissenting opinions didnt get you banned from this shit show, there would be no reason for proxies.

  • RubixFool

    I went to a parochial school (and other than constant anti-choice, and anti-contraception propaganda) the majority of students are upper middle class, hence the better test results. And I’ve known home schooled students, and if your idea of intelligence is arguing over whether or not man and dinosaur walked the earth at the same time, then more power to you.

  • RS

    I went to a parochial school (and other than constant anti-choice, and anti-contraception propaganda) the majority of students are upper middle class, hence the better test results.

    Let’s see. We have a run on sentence, mixed present and past tense and a parenthetical consisting of a dangling subordinate clause. No way you went to a parochial school with that grammar. Undoubtedly you graduated from a public school. Probably got the English Composition award, too.

  • RS

    Oh look. Missed an apostrophe with the contraction. Yep, a real scholar here.

  • RS

    Ooooh! A comma splice to go along with deliberate misrepresentation of a comment!


    You’re correcting grammar in an unrevised blog comment, and using that as marker for whether or not I graduated from a catholic school? Don’t bother with the substance of the argument! Just correct the spelling! No wonder you’re a conservative! Look, dummy, I graduated from a Catholic high school where you’re indoctrinated with anti-choice, anti-contraceptive propaganda(I clearly remember the Dean of Students confiscating condoms being handed out across the street from school by Planned Parenthood)and the majority of students are from the upper middle class, hence the higher SAT, ACT, and other standardized test scores.

    Go fuck yourself.

  • RS

    Your argument is demonstrably false, evidenced by the legions of lower income people trying to get into parochial schools, which have extraordinarily generous financial aid, and the uniform improvement in academic performance among those students regardless of socioeconomic level.

    As for your appeal to your personal history, it is unclear how that supports your argument. Are you saying you didn’t do well, a proposition for which your appearances here provide ample support? Are you saying you succeeded, but your success has nothing to do with the education you received?

    Finally, your reference to contraception and abortion–truly shocking in a Roman Catholic school–adds precisely nothing to your “argument” but rather demonstrates conclusively that your soled purpose on these pages is type f-bombs with one hand while you engage in the onanistic arts with the other. I’m glad you’ve got a hobby, at least.

  • Quartermaster

    No. If your bare assertion were correct I wouldn’t make my living at science. If you engaged in rational thought, instead of regurgitating the spew you type here, you’d know that we know you’re a liar.

  • Quartermaster

    Do you think we’d argue your lies over science? Your type are the most anti-science people I’ve ever had the dubious privilege of meeting.

  • Daniel O’Brien

    Comments over in huffland are priceless. And for the record, the modern number system often call the Arabic numeral system was invented in India by the Hindu.

  • Mm

    I agree with you. The same couple of idiots are highjacking every thread.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    Not to mention I can pretty guarantee that it is fiction

  • Rubix Cube

    No. Merely your scientistic (not scientific) creed which is characterized by three principal dogmas: (1) the assumption that the mathematized science of natural phenomena is a model science to which all other sciences ought to conform; (2) that all realms of being are accessible to the methods of the sciences of phenomena; and (3) that all reality which is not accessible to sciences of phenomena is either irrelevant or, in the more radical form of the dogma, illusionary.

  • Dana

    If, as you have said, the majority of students in private schools are from the upper middle class, and thus have higher test scores, are you not also saying, inter alia, that those students worked harder in school (after all, they came from a culture in which their parents were more interested in school and their children’s performance than average), and are, on average, probably more intelligent than average, given the odds that their upper middle class parents got to be upper middle class by being more intelligent themselves?

    Of course, one would have hoped that your Catholic high school education would have taught you enough about biology and physiology to realize that you have suggested is an anatomical impossibility. Or is it possible that, even though you were graduated from a Catholic school, you were still at the bottom of the class?

  • Jeanette Victoria

    It appears the “peer review” means almost nothing when it comes to credibility of a study or research…