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Was The Guilt Card Necessary, Dan?

Posted on | May 27, 2010 | 12 Comments

by Smitty

There are some religions that thrive on guilt, Progressivism among them. It’s certainly crucial that we support bloggers when reality gets rough. However, Dan Riehl raises the hackles a bit:

Think of it as sort of a dispensation for all Right wing homophobes. We will resume our guilt free fag hating again tomorrow; maybe we’ll even kick some sand at Andy Sullivan for good measure. Carry on.

I, for one, support Cynthia out of regard for her wonderfulness as a person. A few points:

  • We wouldn’t be human if we didn’t have differences of opinion, sometimes stark. Too, Dan Riehl is applying nothing but his trademark abrasive humor here as an advertising tool here; he means to do good.
  • We can have opinions stated in a calm, positive manner without going to the wretched excess of a Fred Phelps. Aside: I’ve heard he’s a Calvinist, which, if true, would explain much.
  • It’s cheap and easy to employ, a la Phelps, major differences of opinion as an excuse not to love our neighbor as ourself. Cut that noise out.

Summarizing, don’t let my distraction with Dan distract you from offering support to a wonderful lady and blogger.

Comments

12 Responses to “Was The Guilt Card Necessary, Dan?”

  1. Joe
    May 27th, 2010 @ 2:36 pm

    Dan, speak for yourself. I do not criticize Andrew Sullivan for being gay. I disagree with Sullivan’s double standard for Democrats vs. Republicans. I am convinced Sullivan is an opportunist (in a way a lot like Charles Johnson, only a bit slicker than CJ). His behavior regarding Palin was completely out of control, disgraceful, and misogynistic. I agree with him that torture by the CIA and DoD was wrong and counterproductive, but also believe you have to put that in perspective given the enemy we are facing. Sullivan is still in denial about the success of the surge in Iraq (Iraq could melt down 50 years from now and if Sullivan was alive he would still blame George Bush and how the surge failed). Sullivan’s hypocrisy about fiscal conservatism is evident in his criticism of Bush (which was warranted in that regard) and his refusal to do the same for Obama (Sullivan is not a fiscal conservative). I would vote for same sex marriage (I just do not want it imposed on society by some judge finding some hidden “right” in some 19th century equal protection clause). The military should allow gay members to serve openly and it is stupid and counter productive to fire Army interpretors over issues like this (as Barry Goldwater said, all that matters if they can shoot straight).

    Yeah some people love to criticize Sullivan for being gay. I don’t. I do not care about his private life. I criticize Sullivan on what he says and does in public that is wrong.

    I admire Cynthia because she makes good points. The fact she is gay, while obvious important and central to her as a person, is to me less relevant than her heirloom tomato hobby (because I like heirloom tomatos). Seriously have you ever had a Brandywine or Cherokee Purple at the peak of the season? You are from Jersey, where everyone is a tomato aficionado, you should know what I am talking about.

  2. Joe
    May 27th, 2010 @ 9:36 am

    Dan, speak for yourself. I do not criticize Andrew Sullivan for being gay. I disagree with Sullivan’s double standard for Democrats vs. Republicans. I am convinced Sullivan is an opportunist (in a way a lot like Charles Johnson, only a bit slicker than CJ). His behavior regarding Palin was completely out of control, disgraceful, and misogynistic. I agree with him that torture by the CIA and DoD was wrong and counterproductive, but also believe you have to put that in perspective given the enemy we are facing. Sullivan is still in denial about the success of the surge in Iraq (Iraq could melt down 50 years from now and if Sullivan was alive he would still blame George Bush and how the surge failed). Sullivan’s hypocrisy about fiscal conservatism is evident in his criticism of Bush (which was warranted in that regard) and his refusal to do the same for Obama (Sullivan is not a fiscal conservative). I would vote for same sex marriage (I just do not want it imposed on society by some judge finding some hidden “right” in some 19th century equal protection clause). The military should allow gay members to serve openly and it is stupid and counter productive to fire Army interpretors over issues like this (as Barry Goldwater said, all that matters if they can shoot straight).

    Yeah some people love to criticize Sullivan for being gay. I don’t. I do not care about his private life. I criticize Sullivan on what he says and does in public that is wrong.

    I admire Cynthia because she makes good points. The fact she is gay, while obvious important and central to her as a person, is to me less relevant than her heirloom tomato hobby (because I like heirloom tomatos). Seriously have you ever had a Brandywine or Cherokee Purple at the peak of the season? You are from Jersey, where everyone is a tomato aficionado, you should know what I am talking about.

  3. Joe
    May 27th, 2010 @ 2:44 pm

    I know Dan is being glib, but I think it is a mistake for conservatives to criticize people merely because their sexuality. Now if they invite it with some crazy off the wall stuff, fair enough, criticize that.

    I will help Cynthia if only show she can buy some tomatos for this season.

  4. Joe
    May 27th, 2010 @ 2:44 pm

    I should not it is spelled tomatoes. Opps.

  5. Joe
    May 27th, 2010 @ 9:44 am

    I know Dan is being glib, but I think it is a mistake for conservatives to criticize people merely because their sexuality. Now if they invite it with some crazy off the wall stuff, fair enough, criticize that.

    I will help Cynthia if only show she can buy some tomatos for this season.

  6. Joe
    May 27th, 2010 @ 9:44 am

    I should not it is spelled tomatoes. Opps.

  7. Robert Stacy McCain
    May 27th, 2010 @ 2:53 pm

    Aside: I’ve heard he’s a Calvinist, which, if true, would explain much.

    He is a Calvinist, but he’s also a damned fool who is failing to fulfill the Great Commission. Phelps is preaching Phelpsism, not Christianity.

  8. Robert Stacy McCain
    May 27th, 2010 @ 9:53 am

    Aside: I’ve heard he’s a Calvinist, which, if true, would explain much.

    He is a Calvinist, but he’s also a damned fool who is failing to fulfill the Great Commission. Phelps is preaching Phelpsism, not Christianity.

  9. Lipton T. Bagg
    May 27th, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

    RSM:

    What Phelps really is : A former civil rights lawyer who practices narcissism and hate-mongering. It’s an insult to Calvinists when one uses Fred Phelps and Calvin in the same sentence.

    However using “Fred Phelps” and the phrase “walkin’, talkin’ rectum” concurrently is both appropriate and recommended.

    -LTB

  10. Lipton T. Bagg
    May 27th, 2010 @ 10:27 am

    RSM:

    What Phelps really is : A former civil rights lawyer who practices narcissism and hate-mongering. It’s an insult to Calvinists when one uses Fred Phelps and Calvin in the same sentence.

    However using “Fred Phelps” and the phrase “walkin’, talkin’ rectum” concurrently is both appropriate and recommended.

    -LTB

  11. Bob Belvedere
    May 27th, 2010 @ 6:12 pm

    According to that Wikipedia link you provided Smitty, the walkin’ talkin’ rectum supported Algore. Hmmmm….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Democratic_Party

  12. Bob Belvedere
    May 27th, 2010 @ 1:12 pm

    According to that Wikipedia link you provided Smitty, the walkin’ talkin’ rectum supported Algore. Hmmmm….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Democratic_Party