The Other McCain

"One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or else shut up." — Arthur Koestler


Posted on | August 26, 2014 | 82 Comments

Cathy Brennan’s Twitter account @GIDWatch got suspended Tuesday because Brennan, a radical lesbian feminist, began “naming names” of those who had signed a petition to end the women-only policy of the Michigan Womyn’s Festival. Transgender activists have been attempting to take over feminist events and organizations, claiming that the fact that they were born with penises and XY chromosomes should not prevent them from being accepted as “lesbian feminists” even if they have not undergone surgery.

Cathy Brennan recognizes this as the shady scam it is:

Trust me: Cathy Brennan is not a conservative and hates everything about my patriarchal heteronormative existence. Nevertheless, Brennan is right about this one thing — women don’t have penises or XY chromosomes. While I don’t want to interfere with any person’s liberty to wear dresses, get themselves injected with hormones and undergo extreme surgery, neither do I think that such people have a right to force others to play along with their psychological dramas and cross-gender fetishism. AMERICA IS A FREE COUNTRY. This means that people are free to disagree with you, no matter how much political power you rally in support of your arguments.

If I am free to call Cathy Brennan a fanatical man-hating nutjob, then Cathy Brennan is free to call me . . . well, whatever. Brennan is also free to say that people with penises are not women, and that even surgery won’t turn an XY-chromosome male into a “lesbian.”

The transgender activists are trying to silence their critics. If they can silence a feminist like Cathy Brennan, guess what? Conservative critics of feminism will be next in line for this suppression of freedom.

Ladies and gentlemen, we must defend this dyke: #FreeCathyBrennan!



82 Responses to “FREE CATHY BRENNAN!”

  1. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 11:57 am

    No doubt it would make things a lot simpler for straight people if we just declared that everyone was straight and made gay people not exist. But that’s not actually true, and the only way to make gay people not exist would be actual genocide, which isn’t exactly a way of “simplifying” anything.

    Trans people exist, and decades of medical research confirms this. We don’t have the option of not being transgender, no matter how much many of us wish we did. We only have the option of trying to hide, not transition, and deal with the effects of severe, long-term, treatment-resistant depression, which is why 41% of us have attempted suicide (25 times the overall average).

  2. Jeanette Victoria
    August 28th, 2014 @ 12:07 pm

    these days being offended means one is trying shut someone up

  3. Jeanette Victoria
    August 28th, 2014 @ 12:09 pm

    The left projects their disfunction on to others all the time

  4. daialanye
    August 28th, 2014 @ 12:16 pm

    In any species with a large population certain self-destructive variations exist. I see no reason, however, for encouraging such individuals nor for approving their recruitment of disciples.

    By your own testimony you have a problem. Deal with it, then, but understand you have a right neither to my help nor even to my public sympathy.

  5. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 12:42 pm

    So how do you decide which conditions deserve medical attention and sympathy, and which require people to be ostracized? Or do you believe in culling the weak in general?

  6. Dianna Deeley
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:02 pm

    You are seriously behind, Tess. Seriously.

  7. Dianna Deeley
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:12 pm

    I’m sorry, but your initial statement is putting words in other people’s mouths. That is rude.

  8. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:19 pm

    No, I was making an analogy.

    The fact that it would be more convenient to people who are not trans to define a world in which trans people’s identities are not respected is not sufficient reason to alter language to define trans people out of existence.

  9. Dianna Deeley
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:19 pm

    A friend of mine, very, very liberal, points out that one’s original equipment works because it’s supposed to.

    I am skeptical of procedures that create (at best) an unsatisfactory simulacrum of the other sex’s original parts.

    Also, while I believe in the distress suffered, I don’t think the people in distress are being well-served by being told, “Oh, you just need some hormones and to believe as hard as you can that you are the other sex, stuck in the wrong body.” There have been public transvestites – gay and straight and what-have-you – throughout history, and some societies even set space aside for them. Harder, of course, for a woman to pass as a man, and facing much harder obstacles, but it’s been done.

    And, again, there you go, putting words in people’s mouths. No one is advocating “culling the weak”, but we are expressing our doubts. You are clearly committed to a viewpoint. Fair enough. But those strawmen are not helpful to the conversation.

    No one is saying that Ms. Brennan is not amazingly rude, by the way.

  10. Dianna Deeley
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:22 pm

    It’s a straw-man.

    And rude.

    You have yet to advance a single reasonable, non-emotion based reply.

  11. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:42 pm

    LBGT? You are a heterosexual
    male with a sexual fetish and narcissistic personality disorder. It will be pretty funny when you men bring all of LBGT to a crashing halt and they have to
    account to society for all the violence against women perpetrated by transwomen.
    I’m betting they cut you loose. Your arousal triggers are not my social cause sir. I do not care about you, your feeling, your sexual pleasure. I care about my
    kids and me, poverty, war. Simply put your fetish is not women’s’ problem.

    I respond mostly to point out for those readers who may not
    recognize all the tactics Trans use and how they like clock work trot out the same lies and manipulations on the poor unsuspecting public. I feel once people become familiar these they will be better equipped to tell you that they also are not interested in a bunch of guys with a fetish that includes sexual narcissism and serious sociopathic tendencies.

    So, let’s look at you as an example 1) you are shameless. First you defend a killer. Yes CeCe walked out of his way and across the wide street to kill
    another human being, and this is okey dokey in your world view. 2) False analogy and gaslight, you try to hide behind children and people born with very genetic
    conditions. How dare you? You are not intersexed. You have no genetic condition. 3)You are an
    autogynphilic man. A SCAM—Surgically, Chemically Altered Man. In fact the interesext community and organizations have told Trans to stop using them as an alibi—so stop it. You have no respect for anyone or anything else outside your fetish and the stories you tell to try
    to suck pity from people.

    I do not test people. As a woman if I read man then man it
    is. That is based on MY PERCEPTION. Which I value more than A MANS FEELING. And you read loud and clear as a man. Outside your deluded little BS narrative nobody ever mistakes some butch bull dyke that is a women for you and the other fembot men—It is screamingly obvious, and no
    that slash of lipstick is not fooling anyone, save your money the false eyelashes and boobs don’t help either. Women know, little children know, my 14-year-old
    cat knows that you are a man.

    I know you would like to manipulate me into caring about
    your fetish as much as you do, but I don’t. Unstable peoples’ suicide is not my responsibility nor my cause. I am still not going to role-play in a man’s sexual fetish– to him I say, adieu, good -bye cruel world– and don’t let
    the door hit you on the way out. What I wish you would get through your head is women’s one wish is–Get back Jack—women do not owe anything. Leave us alone with your creepy demands for attention and your lady face and the whole sick
    thing. Leave women alone.

    Put this on a Post It–Don’t you tell me what pronoun I can
    use. Take your cross dressing ass and haul it on down the line—We know you are
    a man and we do not believe you. And all your psydoscience is not convincing
    anyone as it all has been refuted.

  12. daialanye
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:52 pm

    My views are complex but I refuse to agree that I am in any way responsible for solving problems you should deal with yourself.

  13. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:55 pm

    Don’t hold your breath for a reasoned non emotional reply– it is all pity plays because he is so victimized. These men are abusive manipulators. Simply they need to be told–have your identity but some people go by biological sex and that is their right. But since they are the most oppressed group ever known in all of human history they can deny women all rights. It is so annoying they use every rhetorical fallacy possible.

  14. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 1:59 pm

    Grow up and deal with it and leave people alone. Here’s a rule of thumb–Heart transplant more important than your sexual arrousal triggers. Granny’s hip replacement more important that your sence of well being. My hang nail more important than your fetish.

  15. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 4:06 pm

    My sexual arousal triggers have nothing to do with anything, though I would point out treating the sexual arousal disorders of non-transgender people is a multi-billion dollar segment of the medical industry that is consistently covered by insurance.

    What generally is relevant, treatment-resistant suicidal depression, is generally considered more significant than a hangnail by the medical community, even when it’s suffered by transgender people. You may personally be enthusiastic about just letting us die, but the rest of the world thankfully doesn’t agree.

  16. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 4:12 pm

    I didn’t say you should personally solve my problems, and indeed, I am quite pleased that you will have no role in the process based upon what you’ve said so far. I *am* dealing with my problems myself, with the help of doctors and other professionals that I have sought out.

    You said that people shouldn’t “encourage” “self-destructive variations” with either help or sympathy. Unless you think that label applies uniquely to trans people (in which case, why?), it seems like a pretty straightforward follow up: what kind of conditions do you think deserve help and sympathy? How do you draw that line?

  17. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 4:16 pm

    No, it would be a straw men if I had asserted that that was what you actually said and refuted it, which I did not do. I made an analogy. If you feel that the analogy was inapplicable, you might explain where the analogy fails.

    I apologize for seeming rude to you. Sometimes when you seek to have a civil discussion over whether certain people should be treated with the respect normally accorded to human beings, the people whose lives are being debated find it difficult to approach the subject with the same dispassion available to people whose lives are less directly affected.

  18. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 4:39 pm

    The entire field of medicine is premised on rectifying problems that occur when one’s body doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to.

    And, for example, there have been people who have had someone else’s entire face grafted onto theirs after some problem necessitated it. Pointing out that the result is suboptimal seems rather churlish if that result is the best that can be achieved for that person.

    You may not believe that we are being well-served by being helped to transition, but decades of case studies demonstrates that it’s basically the only thing that works. Yes, there are still problems we face afterward. Obviously. But back when I was going through life trying not to transition, I literally spent every single day wishing I could just die and get it over with, and finally was too depressed to hold onto a job. Whatever problems I’ve encountered in transitioning are a day at the beach compared to then.

    There are crossdressers (I don’t believe they prefer the term transvestite anymore) and drag queens who like to present as a gender different than their own. They are not trans people, because they are not dysphoric about being thought of as the gender they were identified as at birth. Just like there are tomboys and butch lesbians who present themselves in a more masculine fashion but don’t think of themselves as men or want to be men. To other people, the difference may not be immediately obvious if you see someone else presenting in a non-gender-conforming way, but to us there’s a world of difference in how we think of ourselves.

    If I were a crossdresser, I’d be fine with that, and I wouldn’t be transitioning to a different gender — that would be an awful lot of trouble and it wouldn’t accomplish anything I wanted. But I’m not a crossdresser, I’m a trans woman. So all that trouble is just part of what I need to be able to live my life with as much normalcy as possible.

    And yes, I am committed to my viewpoint. I have years of first-hand experience of this, and I’m sure you can imagine that this is a topic that matters a great deal to me. Just like many people used to go through life trying not to be gay and failing, I went through a great deal of my life trying not to be trans. If that had worked I would have been elated, but it just made things worse and worse. This is what works.

    And my problem is not ultimately that Ms. Brennan is rude, because lots of people are rude. It’s that I personally know several trans women that she has gone out of her way to harass and disrupt their lives, for no greater crime than being trans and speaking out about that online. People like Ms. Brennan are the reason I don’t have my photo as my avatar, and they’re the reason many trans people are afraid to speak out at all or to seek the help they need.

  19. daialanye
    August 28th, 2014 @ 4:50 pm

    My positions are clear, and you can figure them out if you wish to make the effort.

  20. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 4:56 pm

    Civil–really? It is not civil for a man to demand a women pretend he is a women. Men in their 40’s with 5 kids telling me he has been a woman his whole life–no, that dog don’t hunt and I don’t care if people call me a bigot or “trransphobic” really could not care less. But you guys send death threats and attack women who refuse to compile. That is so far from civil. It is abusive and manipulative.

    No place in any social contract does it say that women have to pretend a man is a women. Even the legal papers for changing gender marker state that the marker is changed for “legal documents” it does not say that a man is a woman–marker changed does not mean anything other than if someone wants to pretend with you and they do not notice fine. That does not mean any women has to play along and it will be a cold day in hell when the government says women have to pleasure your fetish. And you know that so hence all Transplaining–just like a very rare intersex, just like a lady brain trapped in a male body, just like mommy took some drug when she was pregnant–how ’bout just like good old fashioned cross dress fetish. You think somehow you can ride the coast tails of the “born this way” crowd–it will not work for long. It is already starting to crash and burn. I would suggest that you men recognize and respect women who are telling you to step away from us. Now you can imagine this as only some small tiny fringe radical feminist thing but I am not even a feminist never mind a radical one and I am signed on–every lamaze and la leche group will sign on. Within a few years it will be back to status quo. This is because every time one of you murder and rape a child or women it will be public and loud and repeated over and over and people will realize that it is not some rare exception. And men that claim they are women are just as dangerous to women as any other man. Every mother and housewife is going to be coming down on you men like a ton of bricks–you will not be able to get to the mens room fast enough. You get treated civilly by me the instant you stop demanding women pretend you are not a man. Trans is having a little fad right now but when this goes out of style it will be as popular as polyester leisure suits

  21. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 6:04 pm

    Yes mens sexual pleasure is a multi billion dollar industry–huge makes more than all sports combined. It is also recession proof. And Trans is a part of the industry. Maybe this will make it clear– let’s see, what if all women that need fertility treatment, that is not covered by insurance threatened to kill themselves? What do you think would happen? –nothing –it would not work. The fact that it works with Trans is not because you are a woman but in fact because you are a man. But as soon as people realize that the suicide rate of other groups is in fact way higher and Trans is on par with middle aged white guys then it will change. The claim that a 36 C and cheek bones is what strands between you and death will not hold sway because it is untrue and because the compulsion will not stop and it will only grow. So it will keep going and there are many many unstable in your ranks and nothing is going to change that–no magic bullet. Society does not provide dentures to old poor people do you honestly imagine after 3-5 years and the numbers come in and “the treatment” has not helped that people will still be all woo hoo. Insurance will drop this the second a women sues her company for sex discrimination because some guy gets boobs and she can’t have a baby–both do not want to continue living without what they want and feel they need. Right now everyone wants to ride the rainbow flag right now and look PC for PR reasons. At the end of the day it will not last. If you are smart you realize this–but the male arrogance and entitlement that dominate the politics of trans are vast. Women will push back hard and not stop. There is no cowing us because many of these men are dangerous–we are fighting for our safety and our children’s. I am no more or less interested in trans then another metal illness that causes people to kill themselves–yours just put me at risk and right now has a lot of money floating it. The gay men will get tired of you guys trying to dominate them and draining the coffers. It is house built on lies and it will collapse and that has nothing to do with any phony phobia used to shame and silence people–The medical community at large in fact dreads you guys–as popular as treating personality disorders. They just want you away from them because liars and manipulators are not fun to treat and can damage a persons career. So it is a handful in it for the money and a whole bunch of MSW–At anyrate you are not women and really should stand down because it will not work and when it crashes it will be worse if you did not play nice and resepct women and our right to space free of men with a penis–and 80% of you guys have a penis that works just fine. When more people have all the information Trans is not going to look like victims anymore. When autogynephila which is very much in the DSM V is the dominat narrative then it will not be linked to LBGT but rather other issues–but that was Trans choice that they made because they are by and large-compulsive abusive fetishistic men and women are their victims.

  22. Tess
    August 28th, 2014 @ 8:47 pm

    > But as soon as people realize that the suicide rate of other groups is in fact way higher and Trans is on par with middle aged white guys then it will change.

    This is completely false. And why are you erasing trans people of color, trans men, and trans people of different age groups?

    > he claim that a 36 C and cheek bones is what strands between you and death will not hold sway because it is untrue and because the compulsion will not stop and it will only grow.

    I certainly don’t have 36Cs and my cheekbones suck. What gives me the will to live is looking in the mirror and seeing someone — dumpy, out of shape, and all — who I finally feel is recognizable. If you’re going to claim that a new haircut, some new glasses, and clothing appropriate for a reasonably modest fat woman with limited fashion sense is some kind of beyond-the-pale lifestyle that decent Americans should be preserved from, well I guess I can’t stop you.

    And if living my life and going to work and paying my bills in a way that I can stand is a “compulsion”, then I guess you’re right, it’s not going away.

    > Right now everyone wants to ride the rainbow flag right now and look PC for PR reasons.

    Trans women — trans women of color, in particular — have been a part of the LGBT movement since Stonewall. It’s not like this is some sudden change, and the T has been part of the name for an awfully long time now for you to be claiming that this is a sudden change, don’t you think? The fact that many gays and lesbians are too respectable to want to be seen with us now says a whole lot more about them than us.

    > There is no cowing us because many of these men are dangerous–we are fighting for our safety and our children’s.

    This is the exact same “think of the children” nonsense that bigots have used to try to stop gays and lesbians from being around children. They’re still doing that exact thing in Russia right now, branding gay people as child molesters. Are you a big fan of that, too?

    And at the end of the day, autogynephilia will never be in DSM-V because it’s pseudoscience. It was a lot more respected as a theory a decade ago, but every year it gets more and more discredited. I don’t know why you hate us so much, but it certainly has nothing to do with actual scientific or medical evidence.

  23. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 10:08 pm

    Yes–the children. They are who I give birth to and are my responsibility–because I am a human female and I reproduce. Nobody is branding just collecting and documenting every rape, every murder that transwomen commit against women and children. We do not make up this stuff. There are court records, prison records and yes the gay men will hate Trans for bringing that fear back on to them too–but they know you guys are heterosexual men so they are not going down with this ship. Already published studies show that trans commit many violent crimes and at a much higher rate than women. Once this is common knowledge people will not fall the “oppressed, marginalized, biggest victim ever” stuff. And as men you guys will continue to rape and kill and then demand the prison provide everything a lady lifer needs. Save the Stonewall crap. Trans rewriting history and biology and everything else only works sometimes and only for awhile, and with few and fewer people every day. I would urge you to go and find a medical text used in a medical school in the US that includes Trans–the psychiatric text may but there is no science to lady brain.

    I do not hate. I fear you. I fear for my life and rightly so. I am a women, you I see like any other man in a dark alley. That is what you do not seem to get. Call it “transphobia” I could not care less–As a man you are a danger to women and children. And nothing you say will change that. This is how women stay alive. That is a fact of life women live with. Women do not walk out at night alone because men can rape and kill us. If you were a women you would know that. You think I am putting my life or my kids lives on the line to look PC to a bunch of idiots who took a queer studies class at the community college–no.
    I know that this is all some BS men made up to obscure the truth and provide unstable men a narrative to abuse women–because yes it is rooted in pure misogyny.

    It will leave a lot of wreckage in its wake but it will disappear eventually. And will be treated very differently in the future. Until then how many women and children will be raped or killed at the hands of Transwomen –I have no idea–enough. The thing is when there are names and pictures of the dead you guys can’t claim that we are branding you. You can’t claim a child rapist and killer is a political prisoner and a social justice cause–because that is not a person society wants around. There will be a tipping point . So yes as men you can take our right to safety away for now but there are a huge number of very violent among the T ranks and they will victimize again and again and it will reach a point that it will be treated as any other mental illness. Nobody forces people to pretend the guy who thinks he is the last Tzar to play along with him.

  24. Woman XX
    August 28th, 2014 @ 10:55 pm

    I saw this today floating around the internet and I think it makes some good points from the LBG camp. The rest of us are not allowed to speak either. I give Ms. Brennan a lot of credit she really is trying to keep women and kids safe and they really are not safe with these men demanding entrance into every locker room and then exposing themselves or raping 3 women in a shelter in Canada.People disagree with trans politics because promoting policies like violent males have a right to legally change gender and be called she and have legal access to women only spaces is INSANE and benefits no one except violent males. Yet if one objects to a male child rapist being able to legally change gender, trans activists and their sycophants will inform you that you are a bigot and motivated by hate and are transphobia. transactivists are their own worst enemy, I just wish they’d had not have tied themselves to gays and lesbians and feminism.

  25. David R. Graham
    August 29th, 2014 @ 12:06 am

    Twaddle, man is far, far more than biology and even that you do not grasp.

  26. Tess
    August 29th, 2014 @ 1:48 am

    I’m sick of arguing with someone so obviously filled with hate for me and anyone like me, but for the record, you’re the one trying to rewrite history.

  27. daialanye
    August 29th, 2014 @ 2:20 am

    Pretty obvious you didn’t grasp what I was saying. I only hope it isn’t the case that you can’t grasp it.

  28. Joseph Dooley
    August 29th, 2014 @ 10:53 am


  29. David R. Graham
    August 29th, 2014 @ 4:15 pm

    It is the case, I cannot grasp what you were saying. Nothing is ungraspable.

  30. daialanye
    August 29th, 2014 @ 4:53 pm

    For that matter, i can’t make sense of your first post unless the punctuation is faulty. But let me assume you are serious.

    What I stated might be called the biological imperative of human relationships. If we get that correct, proper social relationships will follow. To extremely simplify:- If men will be men, and women will be women, children can develop properly and society will work for all of us.

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