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‘Just an Incredible Amount of Misogyny’

Posted on | June 7, 2015 | 50 Comments

David Pakman (@dpakman) is the kind of Marxist subversive who hates God even more than he hates America. That is to say, he’s a Democrat. The controversial Pakman hosts a weekly radio/TV/podcast affiliated with the Marxist subversive Pacifica Radio network. Last month, Pakman interviewed Mark Potok, a leading official of an infamous anti-American terrorist group, the Southern Poverty Law Center.

(Why should we let the SPLC monopolize this cheap tactic of smearing political opponents by slapping pejorative “hate” labels on them?)

The subject of this interview was Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs), a featured topic in the Spring 2012 issue of the SPLC’s magazine Intelligence Report. With a listing of Internet locations that included everything from pickup artist (PUA) sites to Reddit forums, the article suggested MRAs were a serious danger:

It’s not much of a surprise that significant numbers of men in Western societies feel threatened by dramatic changes in their roles and that of the family in recent decades. Similar backlashes, after all, came in response to the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, and other major societal revolutions. What is something of a shock is the verbal and physical violence of that reaction.

Really? The fact that the SPLC’s scaremongering coincided with the Obama re-election campaign’s “Republican War on Women” attack against Mitt Romney was a major clue to their political agenda. Yet few seem to recognize the connection between the Democrat Party’s electoral strategy and the recent resurgence of radical feminism. Because there is no reason to believe that “male supremacy” has become more oppressive in the past decade, we must suppose there must be some other motive for this renewed radicalism. When you realize that (a) Obama won re-election in 2012 with the widest “gender gap” ever recorded by Gallup, and (b) Hillary Clinton is the likely Democrat Party nominee for president in 2016, you must perceive the effort to gain a partisan advantage for Democrats as the most likely cause of this otherwise inexplicable surge of feminist activism. It’s not a conspiracy, just divide-and-conquer identity politics as usual for Democrats.

So when David Pakman interviewed the SPLC’s Mark Potok about the Men’s Rights movement, Potok confessed:

Well, to be honest, I was fairly oblivious to this whole world until we got a tip about a couple of websites that we began to look at. And it very quickly became apparent that there was a whole world of these websites; uh, as I say, the so-called man-o-sphere. Uh, these were websites that purported to be part of the Men’s Rights or Father’s Rights movement, which has some legitimate beefs, I think. But when you went in and started to look at what was actually on the sites, it was just an incredible amount of misogyny, an incredible amount of defamation of women. Uh, you know, one of the themes that runs through all of those websites, or certainly the vast majority of them, is the idea that women routinely lie about rape: that they claim they were raped in order to destroy men, to get advantages over men, and so on.

Hey, the SPLC just “got a tip” and suddenly discovered “an incredible amount of misogyny” on the Internet, which they never noticed, say, in 2008, when liberals were calling Sarah Palin the vilest things imaginable?


The dishonest hypocrisy of the SPLC is exceeded only by the dishonesty of their patented “links-and-ties” method of creating the artificial appearance of connections between persons and organizations which are not actually connected. For example, what is the connection between the 2011 suicide of James Ball (the lead “atrocity” cited in the SPLC article) and a PUA forum like Roosh V (featured in the SPLC’s listing of “manosphere” sites)? The answer: None whatsoever. And yet in order to create the appearance of large, scary, violent “War on Women” movement, the SPLC implied that there was such a connection.

Manufacturing non-existent dangers is an SPLC specialty, and Potok did not disappoint Pakman’s audience in this regard:

Uh, but let me say, first of all, that the real violence directed against women began, in a sense, in 1989, at an engineering school in Montreal, where a particular guy, Marc Lepine, murdered, if I remember, sixteen women: lined them up in a classroom and murdered them because they were engineers, they were the first engineering class at that University that had accepted women. And Lepine wrote explicity about how feminists have destroyed my life, and now I’m going to destroy their lives. Since then, we’ve seen a series of massacres, mass murders, directed at women.
The latest, of course, was last May in Santa Barbara, California, when a young guy named Elliot Rodger went on a rampage and murdered six people before killing himself. And this was all because, as he said, he was still a virgin at 22, he felt that beautiful blonde women owed him sex, and so on, and so on, and so on; he left a manifesto, a video manifesto.
So, what I’m saying is, yes, there has been this underlying, really, rage-filled reaction towards women for a good thirty years or so, now.

Yes, the underlying rage-filled reaction that connects a 1989 event in Canada with a 2014 event in California is part of “a series of massacres, mass murders, directed at women” — except that Potok can’t even name a single example of this “series” that supposedly connects these two events, 25 years apart. If Elliot Rodger was a “copycat killer” inspired by Marc Lepine, he was the only such imitator. Yet, despite what Potok implies, there is zero evidence that Elliot Rodger ever heard of Marc Lepine. Here, go do a word-search on Elliot Rodger’s 141-page manifesto. Marc Lepine isn’t mentioned. Guess what else isn’t mentioned? Feminism.

The words “feminist” and “feminism” appear nowhere in Elliot Rodger’s manifesto because his massacre had nothing to do with feminism. Rodger’s rage wasn’t political, it was personal. The loser couldn’t get laid, and this was his revenge. As for the feminist claim that Rodger was influenced by “men’s rights,” I explained on my blog in May 2014:

The focus on “pickup artist” (PUA) culture as an influence on Rodger is probably misguided. As his manifesto makes clear, the Creepy Little Weirdo had been overwhelmed by resentment and a sense of failure since he was in middle school, and he didn’t start ranting on PUA forums until after he had already decided on his “Day of Retribution.” So he acquired from PUA culture a jargon (“Alpha males,” etc.) but this was not the source of his anger, nor did it exercise a determining influence on his actions.

The image of Elliot Rodger created by media myth-makers was a feminist fabrication. Crazy is not a political philosophy.

Hyping hate in order to exploit fear is the SPLC’s raison d’être, but it’s not as if feminists need more reason to hate and fear men.

(Hat-tip: A Voice for Men; thanks to @Synthovine for the transcript.)



50 Responses to “‘Just an Incredible Amount of Misogyny’”

  1. Whitney
    June 7th, 2015 @ 8:25 pm

    Somehow I ended up on the SPLC’s mailing list and they send me prepaid envelopes so I can make a “donation”. Instead I send them friendly little notes about how happy I am to waste their money. It really does make me happy

  2. Measure For Measure
    June 7th, 2015 @ 8:33 pm

    The SPLC projects their hatred on anyone who isn’t a leftist loon They make lots of money try to scare everybody about the newest supposed hate group. I’m 58 years old and if someone had asked me who Marc Lepine was I wouldn’t know off the top of my head. Yet 22 year old Elliot Rodgers is supposedly influenced by Marc Lepine?!!. Riiiiiiiight!

  3. M. Thompson
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:01 pm

    I think someone needs to start lawfare against the SPLC.

  4. Matt_SE
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:14 pm

    I think the next Republican Attorney General needs to start investigating all the collusion going on. This is getting to Commie levels of organized subversion. SPLC should be sued/prosecuted out of existence.

  5. Matt_SE
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:15 pm

    Is banging hotties a hate crime now?
    Yes, for feminists it is.

  6. McGehee
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:18 pm

    The Southern Poverty Lie Center still exists?

  7. M. Thompson
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:18 pm

    Good idea, but it may be too late.

  8. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:26 pm

    Yes, and to reinforce the lies, it has nothing to do with “Southern” and nothing to do with “Poverty”. In fact, it’s like calling an abortion clinic an “Infant Wellness Center”.

  9. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:29 pm

    Be a sport, Whitney, and throw a peso in there from time to time. Then sign your name as Whitney. Lol!

  10. Daniel Freeman
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:38 pm

    I wonder, do they think that Tibetan monks setting themselves on fire are racist atrocities committed against the Chinese? Probably not, so how is James Ball’s suicide an atrocity against anyone but himself?

  11. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:39 pm

    Who cares what Potok thinks? Before long, he’ll be joining his SPLC brethren in something like the third tier in Dante’s inferno, in which he will spend an eternity trapped inside a burning, overheated, metal coffin with no room to move and little air to breath.

    Unless he repents and believes, of course. I’m not a betting kinda girl, but my current observations don’t lead me to think he’ll be going down this path. But you never know, I guess. The Lord moves in mysterious ways.

  12. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:41 pm

    Or God, who created James Ball in His image, and gave him the gift of life. But it’s not like they care about what the Almighty thinks anyway.

  13. WarEagle82
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:46 pm

    Not sure on that one, but you can BET algore has someone looking into the carbon emissions of self-immolation and will condemn it as a major source of AGW any day now, assuming he isn’t too busy looking for some poor masseuse to release his second chakra or something.

  14. Daniel Freeman
    June 7th, 2015 @ 9:48 pm

    I agree. It was, of course, a rhetorical device: they take an anti-establishment perspective in the one case, then take exactly the same perspective as the Chinese government’s re:Tibetans in James Ball’s case, with zero self-awareness of the hypocrisy, contradiction, and implications.

  15. rd
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:01 pm

    Marc Lepine real name was Gamil Gharbi before he changed his name. For some “unknown reason,” he blamed women for his problems. I am sure being raised in a misogynist Islamic culture had nothing to do wuth his hatred for and mass murder of women.

  16. Fail Burton
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:17 pm

    “Defamation of women.” So they do actually understand the concept of group defamation. But only towards women… so they don’t.

    Rhetoric defaming men is far more institutionalized in America and the U.K.. That’s just a fact. What line-up of men can compete with the profile and mainstream money of Anita Sarkeesian, Laurie Penny, Amanda Marcotte, Brianna Wu, Jessica Valenti and tons of other morons? The SPLC must have a blindfold on to talk such nonsense.

    I’m not the one saying men “mansplain,” they are. The last laugh is these subtle morons haven’t figured out their main talent is the non-stereotypical act of bitching.

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  18. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:40 pm

    Hypocrisy, thy name is “liberal”.

  19. ConstantineX1
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:40 pm

    All I can say is the day the SPLC recognizes my blog for “hate speech” I’ll throw a party and grill some porterhouses.

  20. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:47 pm

    Their brains would get all sploady when they find out who Constantine was. It’s not like they teach that in their revised liberal history classes. They know a lot about Harvey Milk though, except the pedophile stuff.

    Sign me up for a porterhouse, and I’ll call Potok with a “tip”. BWAHAHAHA!

  21. ConstantineX1
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:49 pm

    The Byzantine Empire and it’s 1,000 year long achievement of SHIELDING the West from Islam isn’t even in history books these days.

  22. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:52 pm

    Of course it had nothing to do with Islamism…that’s the Religion of Peace.™

    Republicans are the real danger to women. You just know that Mia Love chick is gonna cut loose on a violent rampage any day now.

  23. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 10:54 pm

    …their main talent is the non-stereotypical act of bitching.

    Good point. Probably they’re on the rag.

  24. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:03 pm

    Well duh! Because if we talked about Constantine and/or the Byzantine Empire, the topic of God could accidentally come up, which would be hurtful to the Moslems, homosexuals, feminists, pagans, Wiccans, Gaia cultists, tenured academes and other wussy or protected groups in the classroom.

    But it’s ok if we talk for weeks on end about the “Prophet” Muhammed, because if the Christians or Jews don’t like it, they can just piss off, those intolerant haters.

  25. ConstantineX1
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:14 pm

    Constantine XI also died a martyr defending the walls of Constantinople from the muslims…

  26. Mr. Saturn
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:21 pm

    Ah yes the SPLC the ones who have actually inspired an act of, attempted, terrorism warning of possible violence. Freaking hilarious.

  27. Mr. Saturn
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:26 pm

    I’d send a bag of feces (pick your favorite) back to them.

  28. DeadMessenger
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:35 pm

    Of course, *I* know that.

    But he was from Asia Minor, which borders Greece, which is in EUROPE (now). And his mother, IIRC, was Serbian, which is in Eastern EUROPE (now), so that makes him a patriarchal white man! Dontchu know nuffin??? That’s why we can’t teach this stuff in skool…because it might glorify a “white” guy (who was born in Constantinople.)

  29. chicagorefugee
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:39 pm

    Maybe so. Given that leftists always project, we can now look back at Hillary’s declarations of “a vast right-wing conspiracy” in an entirely new light ….

  30. chicagorefugee
    June 7th, 2015 @ 11:41 pm

    I hereby object to the inclusion of “Brianna” Wu in the group “women.”

  31. Steve Skubinna
    June 8th, 2015 @ 2:19 am

    Anything done by a man is a hate crime. You just did one, and so did I.

  32. slp
    June 8th, 2015 @ 3:02 am

  33. Phil_McG
    June 8th, 2015 @ 4:19 am

    Mark Potok looks like the sort of sketchy guy you might find lurking in the bushes near a playground.

  34. Quartermaster
    June 8th, 2015 @ 5:37 am

    You misspelled $PLC.

  35. Taussig
    June 8th, 2015 @ 5:55 am

    if that were true there would have been charges filed

  36. PeterP
    June 8th, 2015 @ 7:46 am

    A Newsflash for Mr. Pakman: “Women routinely lie about rape. They claim they were raped in order to destroy men & to get advantages over men.”

    See Tawana Brawley, Crystal Mangum, Jackie, Emma Sulkowicz and thousands of others.

    Read 13 Women Who Lied About Rape and Why They Did It:

  37. robertstacymccain
    June 8th, 2015 @ 8:50 am

    Yeah, what would the FBI find if they did a forensic examination of Potok’s hard drive?

  38. Critical Eye
    June 8th, 2015 @ 11:17 am

    They have a quarter-billion dollar war fund, and raise more money each year than they spend. Barring a RICO indictment, they’re going to be around a long time.

  39. Art Deco
    June 8th, 2015 @ 12:02 pm

    It has been known for 15 years now that SPLC was a fraudulent direct mail mill. They were exposed as such in Harper’s of all places. That they are routinely quoted in the media is an indicator that the media are scamsters or do no vetting of any source which feeds their prejudices.

  40. Matt_SE
    June 8th, 2015 @ 5:22 pm

    I AM a hate crime. : )

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  42. Matthew T. Mason
    June 8th, 2015 @ 6:38 pm

    Forget him, how about Pakman?

  43. Robert What?
    June 8th, 2015 @ 7:13 pm

    SPLC is the foremost anti-Christian hate group in the country.

  44. MaMcGriz
    June 8th, 2015 @ 7:25 pm

    They sent an undercover camera team to an annual national gathering of our church a few years back, ostensibly to “expose the racism being preached” there.

    They heard an uplifting message, free of any trace of racial overtones, and best of all, they had trouble getting any convincing footage because there were so many folks of different ethnicity gathered there.

    Gee, what a dud.

    In terms of credibility and service to humanity, I rate them right on up there with the Westboro (alleged) Baptists.

  45. Robert What?
    June 8th, 2015 @ 7:31 pm

    The SPLC are hypocrites and liars. What ever else you can say about Westboro, hypocrites and liars is not one of them

  46. MaMcGriz
    June 8th, 2015 @ 8:15 pm

    They’re both deplorable.

  47. richard mcenroe
    June 8th, 2015 @ 8:59 pm

    Has anyone in any of these interviews ever pointed out that the FBI no longer trusts SPLC as a source and has instructed that they not be used?

  48. Robert What?
    June 9th, 2015 @ 8:00 am

    SPLC are self-appointed arbiters of what does or does not constitute “hate speech”. It would be like me or anyone else here making and publicizing such a list. Why anyone pays attention to them is a mystery to me.

  49. Southern Air Pirate
    June 9th, 2015 @ 8:58 am

    Yes and that only proves that the FBI has been subverted by mysigonist racist bastards who are actually kooky Skokie Nutsy clannish folks that can’t recognize true intelligence and an independent intelligence gathering operation like the pure as driven snow SPLC.

    Oh and they will point that the FBI has only broken up officially with the SPLC but are still keeping the relationship on the down low because the evil right wing conspiracy of racists and mysigonist and religious folks complained too much and thier influence has made the relationship to hard to continue.

  50. Diogenes_of_NJ
    June 9th, 2015 @ 10:00 am

    Hoover would have had them indited.