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A Call To Help Moderate
The Moderate Voice

Posted on | February 10, 2010 | 12 Comments

by Smitty

Valley of the Shadow has issued a blog-wah (a fatwah against a blog) for The Moderate Voice.

VotS feels, to use my own words, that TMV is to ‘moderation’ what Planned Parenthood is to life. VotS holds forth Ann Althouse as an exemplar of moderation, and entreats the Right-o-Sphere to help fisk TMV’s authors along paths of righteous moderation.

This blog relays the call, and puts it to the readers to figure out if TMV is really a poorly labelled Huffington Post, merely a mis-understood collection of misfits trying to fight for the American Way, or if VotS was socially jilted by someone there*.

Everyone, take a moment to review argumentation theory before going in with dull rhetoric. You know what that was like, because you’ll never forget what it was like to be over Macho Grande.

*VotS got back to me and said:

My anger at TMV has nothing to do w/relationships but the fact that I’ve been a partisan (for both sides) on and off since I was 15. I learned from Old machine hacks how to argue and debate. The best line that stuck with me is: If you argue with someone and can’t share a beer after words, you lose more then the argument.

Comments

12 Responses to “A Call To Help Moderate
The Moderate Voice”

  1. physics geek
    February 10th, 2010 @ 9:02 pm

    Jim Geraghty made the observation that one of the TMV writers said that he’d prefer one political party to become dominant and the other to almost entirely fade away. The party he favored? The Democrats, because -and I’m paraphrasing here- they had more good and conservative ideas than Republicans. Really.

  2. physics geek
    February 10th, 2010 @ 4:02 pm

    Jim Geraghty made the observation that one of the TMV writers said that he’d prefer one political party to become dominant and the other to almost entirely fade away. The party he favored? The Democrats, because -and I’m paraphrasing here- they had more good and conservative ideas than Republicans. Really.

  3. JSF
    February 10th, 2010 @ 9:43 pm

    This blog-wah is one more front against The Left and the media for 2010 and 2012; if Lefties can hide under the nom de plume of “Moderate,” then it should be called on.

    And trust me, I fisked Kathy Kattenberg and as Smitty knows, rather then looking for honest Blogging, Gandlesmen defended her unoriginal posts (and lack of engagement with people whose political views she insults daily).

    I don’t mind an honest Kos or HuffPo attack, they stand by the Liberalism. At the TMV, they lie.

  4. JSF
    February 10th, 2010 @ 4:43 pm

    This blog-wah is one more front against The Left and the media for 2010 and 2012; if Lefties can hide under the nom de plume of “Moderate,” then it should be called on.

    And trust me, I fisked Kathy Kattenberg and as Smitty knows, rather then looking for honest Blogging, Gandlesmen defended her unoriginal posts (and lack of engagement with people whose political views she insults daily).

    I don’t mind an honest Kos or HuffPo attack, they stand by the Liberalism. At the TMV, they lie.

  5. Ran / Si Vis Pacem
    February 10th, 2010 @ 10:21 pm

    Liberty is under existential threat from genuine tyrants attempting control of the world’s largest economy…

    …and there’s someone out there trying to sell “moderate”? I’d quote myself, but that would get me investigated. Let’s just say that there are appropriate, rational reasons to hold the moral hard-line on Liberty. Sometimes “moderation” svcks. Svcks bad.

  6. Ran / Si Vis Pacem
    February 10th, 2010 @ 5:21 pm

    Liberty is under existential threat from genuine tyrants attempting control of the world’s largest economy…

    …and there’s someone out there trying to sell “moderate”? I’d quote myself, but that would get me investigated. Let’s just say that there are appropriate, rational reasons to hold the moral hard-line on Liberty. Sometimes “moderation” svcks. Svcks bad.

  7. wombat-socho
    February 10th, 2010 @ 11:48 pm

    People still read TMV? Why?

  8. wombat-socho
    February 10th, 2010 @ 6:48 pm

    People still read TMV? Why?

  9. Bob Belvedere
    February 11th, 2010 @ 3:28 pm

    What Ran said.

  10. Bob Belvedere
    February 11th, 2010 @ 10:28 am

    What Ran said.

  11. Bob Belvedere
    February 11th, 2010 @ 3:31 pm

    Oops! Forgot my Barry Goldwater:
    I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

  12. Bob Belvedere
    February 11th, 2010 @ 10:31 am

    Oops! Forgot my Barry Goldwater:
    I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!