Andrew, You Are Forgiven

Posted on | January 5, 2010 | 52 Comments

by Smitty

How can anyone muster anything but forgiveness for Sullivan at the sight of this? (Emphasis mine throughout.)

Charles Johnson explains his concerns here. He’s particularly right about the kind of proto-fascist love of violence against “the other” that you see pulsating in the writing of, say, Michael Goldfarb or Robert Stacy McCain.

We’ll see how you develop the term. However, as a friend of Stacy’s for roughly the last 18 months, I wonder if you’re experiencing a Bertha Lewis moment. You must have another Robert Stacy McCain in mind. RSM votes libertarian. Possibly you can help enlighten the readers as to how an independent writer who spends time covering small-government candidates could be construed as having a “love of violence”. Now, Stacy does write with style and panache. “Pulsating” sounds rather turgid, but that’s in character for you, Andrew. Fine.

I think proto-fascism is a better term than neo-fascism.

I am in awe of your terminological clarity, Andrew. Goldberg spent a whole book fretting over the inexact nature of “facism”. You prefix her and take her firmly in hand like an old girlfriend.

Cheney and Bush respected the outer limits of constitutional democracy. They obeyed a Supreme Court ruling that struck down their maximalist views of their own inherent power as the executive branch. They left office after an election. They are not fascists. But they do see the executive branch as a kind of fascist element within a democratic polity, an element that can simply ignore the law or hire lawyers to twist it into meaninglessness,

Wait a minute, Andrew. Either they “respected the outer limits of constitutional democracy”, OR, they “twist it into meaninglessness”. One begs a follow-up post wherein you resolve this apparent contradiction. I can’t tell if you despise the ground upon which Bush and Cheney walk, and are applying a gloss to your contempt in a show of pseudo-moderation, or if you like the guys.

an element that has the inherent power to seize anyone, citizen or non-citizen, in the US or not the US, detain them without due process and torture them, in the name of national security, meaning any government response to “active threats” of terrorism.

Oh. *Yawn*. Another person lacking any grasp of the Law of War. I am not a lawyer, either, but I have actually taken a course or two on the topics of Space Law/Law of War/Law of the Sea. You might consider availing yourself, as well. What that will help you to do, Andrew, is speak from the standpoint of history and customary international law on the matter. This will decrease the problem of your overwrought tone, and lend some intellectual heft to your argument.

You see, Andrew, short of the apocalyptic collapse, the upward failure of all governments into that final unholy beast, there are these things called borders. When citizens within the borders of the country commit murder, then the governing documents of the country within the border manage how the country handles those domestic law violators. When aliens cross a border and kill, that’s an act of war. A problem solved at a different level, by a different body of law.

It must be noted that this distinction has been eroding for a number of decades. The U.S., for example, hasn’t declared war since WWII. I’ve argued in the past that the War Powers Resolution of 1973 ought to be scuttled or at least overhauled, as that Constitutional declaration of war requirement would diminish the adventurism displayed by, well, everyone serving as POTUS since it was written, with the exceptions of Carter and Obama (but give the latter time: saber-rattling helps the opinion polls).

This proto-fascist tendency, proven chillingly in the last week as Cheney Republicans like Stephen Hayes called for the torture of the undie-bomber, is what worries me.

I would not advocate torturing anyone, Andrew. But what I would advocate is a thought experiment wherein YOU are put into an authority role, and have to make an Actual Hard Decision affecting the lives of others. Call it an Alan West experiment. Would you step up to the plate? This is not an attack on you Andrew; I can’t tell you if I’d acquit myself as bravely as Colonel West, either. Maybe you can understand the game theoretical aspects of ensuring the opponent understands you’ve the abstract capacity to take an extreme measure when necessary. I gather you’ll deconstruct what I’ve just written as proof of my own derangement. I forgive you that in advance, and also promise not to be an “I told you so” after The Incident which yanks you from your warm, Utopian happy place, into the cold Darwinian reality of this fallen world.

It is the embrace of raw violence against the defenseless – not within the constraints of just war, but outside all constraints except victory against an ‘evil’ enemy.

Ah, so you do subscribe to the concept of a “just war”. Just not this war. Yet, you imply that we’re operating “outside all constraints”. No. For example, how many nuclear weapons have been used? Still zero, Andrew. But we’ll forgive you the breathless hyperbole. The thought of what could be done to make your assertion valid is not something casually put into words.

I do think partisanship has clouded conservative eyes on this question. I don’t think many on the right have yet absorbed the full ramifications of what Cheney asserted and what the GOP now holds as its view of the power of government – i.e. total power over the individual, to the point of torture, in the name of national security.

See previous “Law of War” points. Only by beginning from a flawed understanding of the Law of War is your wrong-headed conclusion even tenuously possible. But, still, we must thank the Left. It is possible that, without the relentless campaign of overstatement, the U.S. could have become the kind of monster State that you relentlessly paint. You, Andrew, and others have performed a valuable service as a feedback loop. Your relentless cries of “Wolf!” have served to diminish the threat of lycanthropy. Bravo. No, I’m not joking.

That’s why, in my judgment, Obama is essential. He is the barrier between us and a form of fascism, imbued with utter moral certainty, that now animates the core of the GOP. Until that core is defeated, real conservatives need to keep their distance from this kind of authoritarian thrill.

Concluding, you seemed to be as confused about the POTUS as Robert Stacy McCain in your opening paragraph, Andrew. I forgive you. I understand that you are a paid cheerleader. You’re a convincing actor. You assert these things about the President and about conservatives as though they were real. But do you really think that there is a relationship between moral certainty and fascism? Moral certainty is the knowledge of right and wrong. Common sense. Is that fascism? Would you say that Evan Sayet is off base?

At any rate, Andrew, there is work to do. You’re forgiven for your wrong-headedness, old boy.
Cheers,
Chris

UPDATE (RSM): My own reaction to this latest eruption of Sullyism is at The American Spectator blog. And, by the way, I’m now blogging from the Southern California home of notorious pro-fascist teabagger Donald Douglas.

UPDATE II (RSM): In a semi-related develoment, Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit calls Charles Johnson’s bluff.

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52 Responses to “Andrew, You Are Forgiven”

Old Rebel
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:11 am

Sullivan occupies a happy world where words mean what he wants them to mean.

Like a lot of apologists for big government these days, he calls himself a “conservative” so he can peddle his radical ideas to the gullible. So same-sex “marriage” is a conservative goal, as is lifting the ban on HIV-infected immigrants.
Old Rebel
January 5th, 2010 @ 9:11 pm

Sullivan occupies a happy world where words mean what he wants them to mean.

Like a lot of apologists for big government these days, he calls himself a “conservative” so he can peddle his radical ideas to the gullible. So same-sex “marriage” is a conservative goal, as is lifting the ban on HIV-infected immigrants.
Amy P.
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:52 am

I seriously think Sullivan throws darts at a board full of words to create the pejorative du jour…then pats himself on the back for his creativity.
Amy P.
January 5th, 2010 @ 9:52 pm

I seriously think Sullivan throws darts at a board full of words to create the pejorative du jour…then pats himself on the back for his creativity.
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January 5th, 2010 @ 10:14 pm

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Ran / Si Vis Pacem
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:29 am

But why forgive Andrew? Why even play at it?

He brands himself as ‘conservative’ but what precisely is it in his values one might call ‘conservative’ in the American classical-liberal context? I rather believe he is a duplicitous jerk. Better he drag his own genuinely fascist state-corporatist tolerance tendencies out from the closet and be done with it. His projection is boring, A, and B, it serves against his stated interests.

If there is something actually bellicose or state-corporatist in RSM’s views, I for one would like Andy to show us. That, or just retire to well deserved obscurity.
Ran / Si Vis Pacem
January 5th, 2010 @ 10:29 pm

But why forgive Andrew? Why even play at it?

He brands himself as ‘conservative’ but what precisely is it in his values one might call ‘conservative’ in the American classical-liberal context? I rather believe he is a duplicitous jerk. Better he drag his own genuinely fascist state-corporatist tolerance tendencies out from the closet and be done with it. His projection is boring, A, and B, it serves against his stated interests.

If there is something actually bellicose or state-corporatist in RSM’s views, I for one would like Andy to show us. That, or just retire to well deserved obscurity.
Gordon
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:30 am

Oh, my. This is so very quoted. All hail Smitty; ululations and prostrations.
Gordon
January 5th, 2010 @ 10:30 pm

Oh, my. This is so very quoted. All hail Smitty; ululations and prostrations.
smitty
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:38 am

Why forgive Andrew?
Carrying your last sentence a step further, it seems foolish to expend anything more on the fellow.
smitty
January 5th, 2010 @ 10:38 pm

Why forgive Andrew?
Carrying your last sentence a step further, it seems foolish to expend anything more on the fellow.
vanderleun
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:48 am

Would somebody please take a sledge hammer and give Andrew the deep dildo experience he so deeply desires?
vanderleun
January 5th, 2010 @ 10:48 pm

Would somebody please take a sledge hammer and give Andrew the deep dildo experience he so deeply desires?
Stogie
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:49 am

Both Sullivan and Johnson deal in caricatures and stereotypes of conservatives. They constantly make silly accusations with nothing to back it up. Of course conservatives are “proto-fascists,” it’s so obvious that no proof, logic or examples need be supplied in support of this premise.

These two intellectual lightweights are merely preaching to the choir of the already converted. No one seeking objective facts would waste their time reading their pap, except maybe to refute it just for fun.
Stogie
January 5th, 2010 @ 10:49 pm

Both Sullivan and Johnson deal in caricatures and stereotypes of conservatives. They constantly make silly accusations with nothing to back it up. Of course conservatives are “proto-fascists,” it’s so obvious that no proof, logic or examples need be supplied in support of this premise.

These two intellectual lightweights are merely preaching to the choir of the already converted. No one seeking objective facts would waste their time reading their pap, except maybe to refute it just for fun.
Finrod
January 6th, 2010 @ 4:05 am

Andy needs to get out more. As Erick Erickson reported after his appearance on the Colbert Report:

One leftist twittered that being in HD gave her a better view of where to put the bullet in my head.

Leftists have no problem whatsoever advocating violence when it’s for *their* causes.
Finrod
January 5th, 2010 @ 11:05 pm

Andy needs to get out more. As Erick Erickson reported after his appearance on the Colbert Report:

One leftist twittered that being in HD gave her a better view of where to put the bullet in my head.

Leftists have no problem whatsoever advocating violence when it’s for *their* causes.
Bob Belvedere
January 6th, 2010 @ 4:12 am

Well put Smitty.

One quibble: I think forgiveness is not the answer. A better way to conduct oneself would be like Howard Roark when it came to Peter Keating in The Fountainhead…

PETER: What do you think of me, Howard?

HOWARD: Peter, I don’t think of you at all.
Bob Belvedere
January 6th, 2010 @ 4:12 am

Well put Smitty.

One quibble: I think forgiveness is not the answer. A better way to conduct oneself would be like Howard Roark when it came to Peter Keating in The Fountainhead…

PETER: What do you think of me, Howard?

HOWARD: Peter, I don’t think of you at all.
Bob Belvedere
January 5th, 2010 @ 11:12 pm

Well put Smitty.

One quibble: I think forgiveness is not the answer. A better way to conduct oneself would be like Howard Roark when it came to Peter Keating in The Fountainhead…

PETER: What do you think of me, Howard?

HOWARD: Peter, I don’t think of you at all.
vanderleun
January 6th, 2010 @ 5:23 am

Oh God yes Bob.

Please let it be so Lord.
vanderleun
January 6th, 2010 @ 5:23 am

Oh God yes Bob.

Please let it be so Lord.
vanderleun
January 6th, 2010 @ 12:23 am

Oh God yes Bob.

Please let it be so Lord.
Charles Johnson
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:17 am

If it weren’t for the fact that I am completely and utterly in love with myself, I would kiss Andrew Sullivan. He gets me.
Charles Johnson
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:17 am

If it weren’t for the fact that I am completely and utterly in love with myself, I would kiss Andrew Sullivan. He gets me.
Charles Johnson
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:17 am

If it weren’t for the fact that I am completely and utterly in love with myself, I would kiss Andrew Sullivan. He gets me.
Marsh
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:26 am

Don’t be ashamed with taking pleasure in the death of islamofascists or supporting efforts to hunt down and utterly destroy every last one of them. He can mock how evil they are all he wants. They are in fact evil. In fact I can’t think of a more barbaric group of people. They teach their children to saw the heads off of innocent victims while screaming “God is great!” and reading from islamic scripture – watch the videos if you dare. In fact they regularly behead people. Not just in Iraq or Afghanistan. But across the whole world where muslims are actively waging imperialistic holy war against innocent civilians in order to force disgusting sharia law over them. In fact they’d gladly behead Sullivan for being a homosexual. Has he seen what these fundamentalist muslims do to gays? Do a google search and see for yourself. Enjoy looking at endless galleries of mass hangings. They intentionally bomb girls schools. Not just onnce or twice. But thousands. They throw acid in the faces of girls for simply going to school which permenently disfiguring them. They suicide bomb anything that casts a shadow if they deem those objects or people not islamic enough on a nearly daily basis. They systematically persecute and oppress everyone they come in contact with. They behead children for listening to Western music and murder entire villages for simply talking to coalition forces. They try to intimidate and murder anyone who criticizes their backwards religion. They want to silence freedom of speech and make it an international hate crime to criticize islam. They want to kill every Jew on the planet. And they want to create a global islamic empire that rules over every single man, woman and child on this planet.

I am not ashamed to pumping my fist every time I hear one of them has been killed in an airstrike or by ground forces. You can call me whatever name you want. I really don’t care.

The left are the ones who need to explain themselves for constantly excuse making for islamofascists and even supporting them.
Marsh
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:26 am

Don’t be ashamed with taking pleasure in the death of islamofascists or supporting efforts to hunt down and utterly destroy every last one of them. He can mock how evil they are all he wants. They are in fact evil. In fact I can’t think of a more barbaric group of people. They teach their children to saw the heads off of innocent victims while screaming “God is great!” and reading from islamic scripture – watch the videos if you dare. In fact they regularly behead people. Not just in Iraq or Afghanistan. But across the whole world where muslims are actively waging imperialistic holy war against innocent civilians in order to force disgusting sharia law over them. In fact they’d gladly behead Sullivan for being a homosexual. Has he seen what these fundamentalist muslims do to gays? Do a google search and see for yourself. Enjoy looking at endless galleries of mass hangings. They intentionally bomb girls schools. Not just onnce or twice. But thousands. They throw acid in the faces of girls for simply going to school which permenently disfiguring them. They suicide bomb anything that casts a shadow if they deem those objects or people not islamic enough on a nearly daily basis. They systematically persecute and oppress everyone they come in contact with. They behead children for listening to Western music and murder entire villages for simply talking to coalition forces. They try to intimidate and murder anyone who criticizes their backwards religion. They want to silence freedom of speech and make it an international hate crime to criticize islam. They want to kill every Jew on the planet. And they want to create a global islamic empire that rules over every single man, woman and child on this planet.

I am not ashamed to pumping my fist every time I hear one of them has been killed in an airstrike or by ground forces. You can call me whatever name you want. I really don’t care.

The left are the ones who need to explain themselves for constantly excuse making for islamofascists and even supporting them.
Marsh
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:26 am

Don’t be ashamed with taking pleasure in the death of islamofascists or supporting efforts to hunt down and utterly destroy every last one of them. He can mock how evil they are all he wants. They are in fact evil. In fact I can’t think of a more barbaric group of people. They teach their children to saw the heads off of innocent victims while screaming “God is great!” and reading from islamic scripture – watch the videos if you dare. In fact they regularly behead people. Not just in Iraq or Afghanistan. But across the whole world where muslims are actively waging imperialistic holy war against innocent civilians in order to force disgusting sharia law over them. In fact they’d gladly behead Sullivan for being a homosexual. Has he seen what these fundamentalist muslims do to gays? Do a google search and see for yourself. Enjoy looking at endless galleries of mass hangings. They intentionally bomb girls schools. Not just onnce or twice. But thousands. They throw acid in the faces of girls for simply going to school which permenently disfiguring them. They suicide bomb anything that casts a shadow if they deem those objects or people not islamic enough on a nearly daily basis. They systematically persecute and oppress everyone they come in contact with. They behead children for listening to Western music and murder entire villages for simply talking to coalition forces. They try to intimidate and murder anyone who criticizes their backwards religion. They want to silence freedom of speech and make it an international hate crime to criticize islam. They want to kill every Jew on the planet. And they want to create a global islamic empire that rules over every single man, woman and child on this planet.

I am not ashamed to pumping my fist every time I hear one of them has been killed in an airstrike or by ground forces. You can call me whatever name you want. I really don’t care.

The left are the ones who need to explain themselves for constantly excuse making for islamofascists and even supporting them.
David
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:32 am

Really, what levels current leftists have sunk to. Proto-fascist? I swear, crypto-nazi has SOOO much more panache…
David
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:32 am

Really, what levels current leftists have sunk to. Proto-fascist? I swear, crypto-nazi has SOOO much more panache…
Charles Johnson
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:43 am

What the right has achieved with this crazy war against ACORN — a lot of misery for the poor people that ACORN helps.

The organization has its problems, yes. But the relentless demonization does bear a resemblance to the tactics of Joe McCarthy.

And if you’re wondering why the poor and the disenfranchised (yes, they really do exist) have such antipathy toward the Republican Party, here’s your answer.

1/05/2010 6:12:12 pm PST

Because child prostitution is empowerment!
Charles Johnson
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:43 am

What the right has achieved with this crazy war against ACORN — a lot of misery for the poor people that ACORN helps.

The organization has its problems, yes. But the relentless demonization does bear a resemblance to the tactics of Joe McCarthy.

And if you’re wondering why the poor and the disenfranchised (yes, they really do exist) have such antipathy toward the Republican Party, here’s your answer.

1/05/2010 6:12:12 pm PST

Because child prostitution is empowerment!
SDN
January 6th, 2010 @ 12:35 pm

Smitty, it isn’t just the Law of War Sullivan doesn’t understand, it is war itself.

War is a binary solution set: you either win, or you lose. The only thing that hesitancy in war leads to is an increase in the number of steps it takes to arrive at that solution… and each line on the scratch pad is written in blood. It may be the blood of your soldiers, enemy soldiers, your countrymen and allies, or the enemies’, but the longer the war, the more blood spilled.

The leaders of a country must be more concerned about the lives of their soldiers, citizens, and allies: it is part of the oath they took and the office they hold.

Nor is the blood simply red; 9/11 delivered a trillion dollars of damage to the world economy. Sullivan would sneer at this as “more concerned with money than lives”, but each one of those dollars represents a portion of the lives of those who earned it, saved it, or invested it… and then saw that portion of their lives snatched away by 19 fanatics and those they entrusted to protect them failing… out of hesitancy.
SDN
January 6th, 2010 @ 7:35 am

Smitty, it isn’t just the Law of War Sullivan doesn’t understand, it is war itself.

War is a binary solution set: you either win, or you lose. The only thing that hesitancy in war leads to is an increase in the number of steps it takes to arrive at that solution… and each line on the scratch pad is written in blood. It may be the blood of your soldiers, enemy soldiers, your countrymen and allies, or the enemies’, but the longer the war, the more blood spilled.

The leaders of a country must be more concerned about the lives of their soldiers, citizens, and allies: it is part of the oath they took and the office they hold.

Nor is the blood simply red; 9/11 delivered a trillion dollars of damage to the world economy. Sullivan would sneer at this as “more concerned with money than lives”, but each one of those dollars represents a portion of the lives of those who earned it, saved it, or invested it… and then saw that portion of their lives snatched away by 19 fanatics and those they entrusted to protect them failing… out of hesitancy.
john
January 6th, 2010 @ 2:24 pm

I predict that this effort will be as successful as his attempts to get the word “Christianist” into the American lexicon.
john
January 6th, 2010 @ 9:24 am

I predict that this effort will be as successful as his attempts to get the word “Christianist” into the American lexicon.
Lazarus Long
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:09 pm

“That’s why, in my judgment, Obama is essential. He is the barrier between us and a form of fascism, imbued with utter moral certainty, that now animates the core of the GOP.”

Fascism is a creature of the left, and the reactionary left refuses to face that truth.

See Goldberg, Jonah.

And thanks for putting on the waders and bravely going into the opes sewer that is the writings of Andrew Sullivan.
Lazarus Long
January 6th, 2010 @ 10:09 am

“That’s why, in my judgment, Obama is essential. He is the barrier between us and a form of fascism, imbued with utter moral certainty, that now animates the core of the GOP.”

Fascism is a creature of the left, and the reactionary left refuses to face that truth.

See Goldberg, Jonah.

And thanks for putting on the waders and bravely going into the opes sewer that is the writings of Andrew Sullivan.
Philip Primeau
January 6th, 2010 @ 3:41 pm

“When aliens cross a border and kill, that’s an act of war”

Is this for serious? Because that would put us at war with most of Central and South America.
Philip Primeau
January 6th, 2010 @ 10:41 am

“When aliens cross a border and kill, that’s an act of war”

Is this for serious? Because that would put us at war with most of Central and South America.
soylent green
January 6th, 2010 @ 9:22 pm

1. How do we know Andrew actually wrote that?

2. How bizarre is it that Andrew and Mad King Charles are now BFF … are they the only two who like each other any more (excepting CJ’s sock puppets, mobys and lick spittles, or Andrews’s ghostwriters of course)?

3. Stogie is correct … those two are both intellecual non-entities.
soylent green
January 6th, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

1. How do we know Andrew actually wrote that?

2. How bizarre is it that Andrew and Mad King Charles are now BFF … are they the only two who like each other any more (excepting CJ’s sock puppets, mobys and lick spittles, or Andrews’s ghostwriters of course)?

3. Stogie is correct … those two are both intellecual non-entities.
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Rob Crawford
January 7th, 2010 @ 2:14 pm

“Is this for serious? Because that would put us at war with most of Central and South America.”

Yes, it’s serious.

Investigate how Mexico deals with illegal border crossers on its southern border. Then ask yourself why there isn’t more noise made about it.
Rob Crawford
January 7th, 2010 @ 9:14 am

“Is this for serious? Because that would put us at war with most of Central and South America.”

Yes, it’s serious.

Investigate how Mexico deals with illegal border crossers on its southern border. Then ask yourself why there isn’t more noise made about it.
Paul in BarneyFrankistan
January 7th, 2010 @ 2:41 pm

As a former subscriber to The Atlantic, I keep getting emails and snail mail offering me bargain rates to re-subscribe. Not a chance, as long as they continue to fund this lunatic. They slid downhill pretty fast after the death of Michael Kelly.

BTW – Jonah Goldberg is the one who (literally) wrote the book on fascism. Michael Goldberg is at The Weekly Standard, which actually makes the Excitable One’s rant even funnier, since MG is one of the most mild mannered writers around. He occasionally goes as far as mild sarcasm, which apparently enough to qualify as hate speech in AndrewWorld.
Paul in BarneyFrankistan
January 7th, 2010 @ 9:41 am

As a former subscriber to The Atlantic, I keep getting emails and snail mail offering me bargain rates to re-subscribe. Not a chance, as long as they continue to fund this lunatic. They slid downhill pretty fast after the death of Michael Kelly.

BTW – Jonah Goldberg is the one who (literally) wrote the book on fascism. Michael Goldberg is at The Weekly Standard, which actually makes the Excitable One’s rant even funnier, since MG is one of the most mild mannered writers around. He occasionally goes as far as mild sarcasm, which apparently enough to qualify as hate speech in AndrewWorld.
M. Simon
January 7th, 2010 @ 11:58 pm

Speaking of the Love of Violence:

This Death to Skeptics video might interest you.

And who is promoting the violence? The left.

The video is interesting because it deals with witch burning that happened during the little ice age.

BTW love your new look (it has been a while) but I notice Pam Anderson is still showing off her silicon reservoirs. Couldn’t that stuff be put to better use in microchips or something?
M. Simon
January 7th, 2010 @ 6:58 pm

Speaking of the Love of Violence:

This Death to Skeptics video might interest you.

And who is promoting the violence? The left.

The video is interesting because it deals with witch burning that happened during the little ice age.

BTW love your new look (it has been a while) but I notice Pam Anderson is still showing off her silicon reservoirs. Couldn’t that stuff be put to better use in microchips or something?