40 Responses to “Fallout From Sarah Palin’s Kentucky Senate Endorsement of Rand Paul”

1. John
   February 8th, 2010 @ 4:01 am

   Dear Lisa Graas,

   It’s the economy, stupid.

   I don’t mean to be insulting, I think she has some valid opinions. But, the “Reagan conservative” model is quickly fading in favor of a truly grassroots model.

   That, and surely Rand Paul has more qualities than simply being ‘outside the box’ though he manages to (successfully) forward that as his finest.

2. Lisa Graas
   February 8th, 2010 @ 6:14 am

   You need to make a correction in your Palin quote.

   http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003291676

3. Dale Elliott
   February 8th, 2010 @ 6:16 am

   I supported Sarah because she supported Veterans. She was there for her son and his unit of Army National Guard Soldiers who where being deployed and that meant alot.

   When she endorsed John McCain recently I was disappointed but I stood behind her. I felt she was supporting him because he had put her in the national spot light. Because of this she felt a duty to return to support his re-elction.

   When I learned that she supported Rand Paul in this election, I knew it was time for me to no longer support Sarah Palin. She chose a person based on his name and father and not a man that shared her conservtaive views. She and Rand share SOME of the same views however Bill Johnson shared alot more of those same views then Rand Paul does.

   I thought she stood behind Veterans and supported people who supported Veterans. How could she support a man who calls the war I was in and her son was in an “Illegal War”? How could she support a man who wants to close GITMO and send the prisoners to their “Country of Origin”? How can she support a man that has a following that is so Anti- War and Anti- CIA?

   Obviously she did not do any checking on who this person is or what he stands for. She obviously trusted the wrong person on this. I never thought she would be so wreckless in making a decision like this. If she is this wreckless – How could we support her or trust her in other important decisions?

   Since she sold out her support for Rand Paul she lost this Veteran’s support for her. She could have supported a Veteran by supporting Bill Johnson but she did not even give him a chance. Money was what based her decision to support Rand. Money and DC long time politician Ron Paul. Since she turned her back on Veterans… I ask other Veteran’s to also re-examine their support for Sarah Palin.

   I believed in Sarah Palin, I thought she was above politics as usual. I was wrong.

   Sgt Dale Elliott
   Louisville, KY

4. Chuck Cross
   February 8th, 2010 @ 9:35 am

   That poll is completely bunk, by the way. Persistence Consulting LLC also has R.J. Harris beating Tom Cole in his primary.

   http://www.prlog.org/10338386-poll-shows-close-race-in-oks-4th-district.html

   I don’t know why Big Government Conservatives hate states-right conservatives so much, especially constitutional ones, but if we’re just headed back to Conservative, Inc. of the year 2005, the $$$ is going to once again dry up.

   There is a reason the McConnell machine hates Rand Paul, and it’s because Senate seats are precious, and he’ll vote using a Constitutional test, not a “will-I-get-money-for-my-PAC” test.

5. Scott
   February 8th, 2010 @ 9:37 am

   Who’s applying a litmus test, now?

   This looks like a middle school clique: we don’t like her because she likes him.

6. Kentuckyblessin
   February 8th, 2010 @ 9:44 am

   Here in Kentucky there are more Reagan Republicans than Libertarian ones,prior to Ronald Reagan running for president there were only a hand full of Republicans. To be honest I never gave Sarah any support I figured when she left her governorship in Alaska she had an agenda that was self serving and I see I was right. By endorsing Rand Paul she has shown me she isn’t a conservative. The little respect I did have for her is gone. Kentucky is not going to put a Libertarian running as a conservative in the Senate Seat no matter how much the Rand Paul folks try to package his Libertarian views as conservative and a grassroots movement; that is simply not the truth. Kentuckians can see through all the smoke and mirrors. His whole campaign is backed by outsiders,and he daddy’s clout if you follow the money trail it all goes back to his Dear ole’ Dad. Most of his endorsements are meaningless and I find it doubtful anyone will even remember who endorsed him on election day. Bill Johnson don’t need worthless endorsements he is running on his own merit and that is all he needs to win.

7. Chuck Cross
   February 8th, 2010 @ 9:52 am

   By the way, here is a real poll, by one of the most reliable pollsters, Public Policy Polling (“PPP”).

   http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/surveys/2009_Archives/PPP_Release_KY_1222.pdf
   Paul is up 44-25 on Grayson. 39% of likely primary voters have a favorable opinion of
   him to 13% unfavorable while 22% view Grayson positively to 15% unfavorable.
   Paul is winning the votes of conservatives by a 47-20 margin, while Grayson holds a 36-
   34 lead with moderates. Paul is having a particularly good amount of success with folks
   who think that the Republican Party in Washington has become too liberal- his lead with
   them is 54-18. Paul’s support is universal across demographic lines, as he is up with
   men, women, voters in every region of the state, and every group of the GOP electorate
   broken down by age.

   http://www.whas11.com/community/blogs/political-blog/Senate-Shocker-Upstart-Paul-Takes-Big-Lead-79904197.html

   Not to mention there was a Rasmussen report out last week with Rand wiping out either Dem candidate in the general.

8. Kygal
   February 8th, 2010 @ 10:13 am

   This controversy goes way beyond “we don’t like her because she likes him”, Scott.

   Palin used pitifully poor judgment when she “endorsed” Paul in this race. She spoke from the ‘throne’ upon which so many conservatives had placed their straight arrow conservative queen…and she departed from what she had been saying to offer her high profile thumb’s up to someone with whom she says she has some areas of disagreement! It was duplicitous at the very least.

   In her speech at the “Tea Party Convention” (make that ‘a segment’ of the tea party convention) she spoke of holding our representatives accountable for straying off position. Well that’s exactly what she did and many, many of us in Kentucky are viewing her actions as betrayal of a strong stand on both fiscal and social conservatism. And lts’s not forget the thoughtless afront to our service men and women, who would be negatively impacted by Paul’s foriegn policy.

9. Chuck Cross
   February 8th, 2010 @ 10:28 am

   Wow kygal, you’re right. “And lts’s [sic] not forget the thoughtless afront [sic] to our service men and women, who would be negatively impacted by Paul’s foriegn [sic] policy.”

   I went to his issues pages, and it is startling!

   http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/q-z/veterans/

   The defense of our country is the most important duty of our federal government. The men and women of our armed services deserve to be treated like the heroes that they are. Those willing to put their lives on the line in defense of freedom deserve a government that lives up to their promise to take care of them when they get home.

   In order to keep our promises, Rand proposes balancing the budget and making national defense a bigger percentage of a fiscally sane budget. Dr. Paul will demand that the care of our veterans be a top priority by:

   • Ensuring the VA provide affordable care and treatment
   • Providing employers a tax credit to hire veterans;
   • Restoring health coverage to retired vets;
   • Providing all necessary medical treatments to veterans; and,
   • Ending the outrageous requirement that veterans must sacrifice their retirement pay in order to receive VA disability benefits.

   These objectives can only be achieved if the federal budget is brought under control and weighted to reflect the actual and critical powers and responsibilities of the Federal Government. Our chief responsibility, to provide for the common defense, can only be fulfilled by cutting out the waste in our budget to make room for our heroes. No other group of federal employees is subject to such unfair treatment as our service men and women; and no other deserves the best.

10. Huey
    February 8th, 2010 @ 10:45 am

    When will these people get it?

    The primaries are for these fights. Fights for the candidates, not against each other. Fight it out. Support your candidate. Get out the vote. Then, when all is said and done, the one with the most votes goes on to the general election.

    No candidate is completely acceptable to the more than 1/2 of the voting public. None.

    None. None. None.

    So, you pick the one, from the choices available, who MOST reflects your MOST important values at THIS juncture in history. Then vote for that one.

    Rinse and repeat in the general election.

    Smile, shake hands, and move on.

11. Kygal
    February 8th, 2010 @ 11:13 am

    Wow Chuck,

    “I know that third party candidates can’t win in KY. Although I’m a libertarian at heart, I’ve decided to run as a Republican. Once I win I’ll be able to promote my father’s principles and work towards reforming the Republican party” ~ Rand Paul

    (sic) RON is essentially an isolationist, who says the war is illegal, and is for pulling the troops out, and balancing the budget by cutting spending to the military. (sic) This would impact the troops on multiple levels in spite of what Rand has had typed on his website. It also compromises national security by weakening our military.

12. Lisa Graas
    February 8th, 2010 @ 11:22 am

    I am still in a state of shock that Palin would diss veterans this way.

13. Doc
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:17 pm

    Because one dislikes the results of a poll then one dismisses it as completely bunk. I suppose a Grayson poll confirming the Johnson poll results is bunk, too. Bunk, bunk, bunk! “Wah, wah, wah! I’m telling you, we had a push poll two months ago that says Rand is wonderful!”
    Forget the other two independant and internal polls in January which showed Grayson and Paul narrowing into a tie. Now he’s THIRD! That’s called a TREND, Chucky, downward.
    Why, go ask the Pulaski County GOP. They barred him from their LDD event Saturday. We’re all quite tired of his arrogance and entitlement attitude. No wonder he’s slipping fast like the Titanic in the Atlantic.
    Johnson is earning the respect of KY. He’s outclassed Grayson and Paul all along. He has the demeaner for the office, unlike pouty little Randi and the expectant Grayson.
    As for the VA? It’s a popular target every political cycle but ignored by you, Chucky, and those who want to highlight it for political gain in the off season. Yes, Chucky, tell me you just went to Paul’s issues pages! I’m startled alright. It’s a ridiculous claim.
    I’m 100% DAV and the VA serves me, as well as 4.5 million veterans world-wide, just fine for the most part. Every system has its faults.
    It’s popular to criticize, too, by those who’ve never set foot in a VA facility.
    None of Randi’s “proposals” are new, none. He is disengenuous because EVERY SINGLE proposal of his is either under condideration, in effect, or pending implimentation.
    Randi told Cavuto he wants to cut ALL government spending by 5%. VA, too, I presume? How’s that “Top Prority” for veterans?
    The readers need to know one thing. Chucky and his wraskly Paul supporters are paid bloggers from outside KY with Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty who lie in wait in order to post their misinformation for unsuspecting new readers.
    Don’t be fooled.

14. ECM
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:23 pm

    I’m not going to keelhaul her over this one endorsement but, man, she has to pick her horses a bit more carefully in the future.

15. Jack Okie
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:33 pm

    Lisa Graas et al:

    We had eight years of Ronald Reagan. How did we end up 20 years later with Obama and a super-sized deficit and out of control federal spending? We conservatives have been singing from the small government hymnal for 30-40 years. How close are we?

    The fundamental, bottom line, take-it-to-the-bank reality is that nothing gets fixed if we don’t restore the Constitutional balance between the feds and states. Sarah gets that and is supporting candidates who have explicitly committed to the 10th Amendment. So y’all keep up the inside (Kentucky) baseball BS rather than helping fix the real problem, and then see how much we’ve accomplished in another 20 years: Zero, bupkis, nada! Wake up!

16. PSD – Paul Derangement Syndrome
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:36 pm

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17. Chuck Cross
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:38 pm

    Well Doc, we’ll just have to see who’s polling is more accurate come May, won’t we?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/kentucky/election_2010_kentucky_senate

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/surveys/2009_Archives/PPP_Release_KY_1222.pdf

    Have a link to Persistence Consulting LLC’s poll results?

    I see their contact information is a gmail address.

    Persistence Consulting
    P.O Box 164
    Edwardsville, Illinois 62025
    Phone: 618-406-1078
    Email: persistenceconsulting@gmail.com
    Website: http://www.persistenceconsulting.org

    And Doc, I would not have called Johnson’s poll bunk, other than I had previously seen (as I cited) very suspicious polling from them in the past. You want to trust it as the holy grail? Go for it. In fact, you should write Bill Johnson a check right now as a true-believer.

18. Jack Okie
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:46 pm

    We’ve all noticed how folks get to Washington DC and somehow transform into the big spenders they campaigned against. Well, folks, there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and it’s right there in DC. While states and local governments starve for cash, huge sums are hoovered up by the feds so $300 million bribes can be offered to corrupt senators. The pile of cash is too much temptation for all but the most principled.

    The Founders intended the Senate to represent the interests not just of the States, but the State legislatures. The 17th Amendment, passed as part of the Progressive agenda, threw a major monkey wrench into our system of checks and balances and removed the only real brake on federal expansion. How long do you suppose a senator would remain in DC if, elected by the legislature, he/she voted to suck their money up to Washington?

    That’s the problem, and all the so-called solutions like term-limits are just so much wankery.

19. Cindy Lou
    February 8th, 2010 @ 12:57 pm

    I’m tired of all this crap. Everytime there’s a discussion about candidates positions it turns into a damn pissing contest. You all challenge one another to go read the other candidate’s website to see what they say on every subject under the sun. Obama had a pretty website too, that was totally bogus. I have many interests in this election none more important to me as abortion. One is either for or against the killing of the innocent unborn. To say it’s the problem of the State’s or the Federal Gov’t is pure cowardice. We need leaders that will stand up and and get a “Right to Life” amendment. 50 million abortions in the past 16 years is horrendous. At this rate the Muslims will wipe us out by attrition in 40 to 50 years. Welcome to reality. You people want to disparage anyone that takes a stand against this murder. You all make me sick!

20. robbie
    February 8th, 2010 @ 1:04 pm

    We conservatives haven’t been as vigilant as we should have been, but those times are a’changin’. None of the issues are worth squat if this country is not defended; I’m not slamming anyone who has not served in any branch of the military, but Bill Johnson is a veteran, and has that first-hand insight into defense. Mr. Johnson also understands how the illegal immigration problem is linked to our national security – not just people sneaking over our borders without permission, but is fully aware of the danger of identity theft and LOCAL law enforcement; Johnson has been aware of this problem for years, unlike Mr. Paul who was only told there was an illegal immigration problem within the past 6 months. He wasn’t aware of the federally mandated (for federal jobs) E-Verify employment program until just a few weeks ago. National security isn’t just about guns, fighter planes and tanks.

21. Doc
    February 8th, 2010 @ 1:08 pm

    Try to maintain an even keel, Chucky. You seem a bit testy.
    You didn’t cite a Johnson poll, to start with. Secondly, you continue to put up that silly non-contributory poll from December. It’s now February…2010.
    I got a “poll call” three weeks ago, Rand’s?. It was ONLY for registered male Reublican voters and only included Grayson and Paul. Wonder why? What’s so intimidating about Johnson not to include him? You are quoting polls with a clear sampling bias. They are therefore unreliable for representing reality.
    Same thing goes with your Rasmussen poll except that you apparantly did not read it. It is a poll addressing the Nov. 2 general election, not the Republican primary on May 18. It left off Johnson, again. How contrived. The poll results have as much interpretive value as a Cold War probability strategy session in the 1980’s.
    Get an education, Chucky. Come to terms with the fact that money doesn’t buy an election. Paul is outspending Johnson 20:1 yet his return on his investment is dropping. 20:1!! Johnson’s is gaining as he deftly out-campaigns both Paul and Grayson.
    Yet Paul wants you, me, and others to believe he is fiscally responsible? Not to mention all that crap he’s littering up KY’s landscape with with.
    Polls don’t vote. Voters vote and it’s only Feb. 8.
    Endorsements cut both ways. Already Palin’s little love fest with Randi has cost his campaign dearly. Go read the blogs and don’t fixate on me.
    Johnson is who voters are looking at for May, not the money, polls, or endorsements, Chucky.
    But, next time Prince Randi wants a poll, why don’t you encourage him to include Johnson?
    Feel free to check his FEC records for my contributions. As a super-spy sleuth I bet you can guess my name. I’m high profile with Bill. Oh! You don’t live here, do you Mr. Liberty Tree Fruit?

22. robbie
    February 8th, 2010 @ 1:11 pm

    @Jack – Mr. Johnson has made a personal pledge that, if sent to Washington, he would step down after two terms.

23. Ronsonic
    February 8th, 2010 @ 2:10 pm

    People, Sarah Palin has always been libertarian and traditionalist. Now that’s enough like a conservative for most practical purposes but is not the same thing.

    She has also been astute and decent enough to welcome people to agree with her even when they disagree on some issues. Her current support of John McCain is a matter of personal loyalty, that’s a sign of decency. Support of Rand Paul a matter of domestic policy.

    What she doesn’t do is support people on the basis of party affiliation. Palin is not going for the “party” guy. She has her own personal and somewhat idiosyncratic standards and stands by them. It is far more honest than what she would do if she were “positioning” herself either as a candidate or “king maker.”

    We should welcome that independent, tea-party attitude. Well, I do. I recommend we get accustomed to this new spirit of noisy, chaotic and hopefully respectful primary campaigns and save the “hang together” for the general election. This is how we’re going to get good principled candidates whom we can support enthusiastically even when they don’t match up on every item.

    This is the new wave. The old wave is the one pulling Carly into demon-sheep hell and Crist into irrelevance.

24. William R
    February 8th, 2010 @ 2:14 pm

    This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican party. The NeoCons have dominated since the election of Bush Cheney and the results are pretty obvious. The Democrats control Washington DC. Bush was a disaster. Kristol and his ilk see Rand Paul as a threat thus usual smear tactics begin.

    The GOP Should Dump the NeoCons

    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10935

25. Jack Okie
    February 8th, 2010 @ 3:07 pm

    robbie:

    Back in the ’90s Dr. Tom Coburn was prevailed upon to run for the Oklahoma 2nd Congressional District. He pledged to retire after three terms, which he did (to no-one’s surprise who knew him). While honorable, the net effect was to deprive us of one of the best Congressmen we had ever had. He was later prevailed upon to run for the Senate; to my knowledge he made no similar pledge this time (thank goodness, because we will need all like him we can get for the coming battle).

    Michael Barone and Glenn Reynolds are talking about the country’s emerging Third Awakening. I believe it is the broader grass-roots groundswell behind the current tea parties. If we want “smaller government” and local control, how do we get it? Is it even possible given that the deck is currently stacked towards DC? If Johnson is deeply committed to the 10th Amendment and restoring the states’ rightful Constitutional powers, then we need him in the Senate for as long as it takes (certainly more than 12 years). What does leaving after two terms accomplish? If his primary focus is not on state sovereignty, then I don’t want him in the Senate at all. NOTHING we do will mean anything in the long run if we don’t reverse the Progressive agenda and restore the Constitutional allocation of rights and powers.

26. William R
    February 8th, 2010 @ 3:29 pm

    I keep hearing that Bill Johnson is the Reagan conservative in this race. I don’t think so. Take foreign policy for example.

    Reagan’s Wisdom on the Middle East

    http://orangepunch.freedomblogging.com/2006/07/21/reagans-wisdom-on-the-middle-east-leave/

27. Lisa Graas
    February 8th, 2010 @ 4:05 pm

    Here’s the real story behind the polls the Paul supporters keep pushing in an attempt to make us all believe their fantasies.

    Background on Polling in Kentucky’s Senate GOP Primary
    http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2010/02/background-on-polling-in-kentuckys.html

28. Lisa Graas
    February 8th, 2010 @ 4:09 pm

    And as you read this story (link below), take note, it’s not just about Pulaski County. It’s about Hal Rogers’ DISTRICT

    Paul can’t win. Even if he won the primary (he won’t) too many Republicans in the state would not support him in the general. That’s just a fact. Meanwhile, the “new guy”, Bill Johnson, who is a stellar candidate, is exciting people. The previous commenter who noted a “downward trend” for Paul is absolutely right.

    http://www.whas11.com/news/politics/Rand-Paul-gets-Palin-but-not-Pulaski-83779847.html

29. Doc
    February 8th, 2010 @ 6:00 pm

    “Neo-conservatism” is a term almost exclusively used by the enemies of America’s liberation of Iraq. There is no “neo-conservative” movement in the United States. When there was one, it was made up of former Democrats who embraced the welfare state but supported Ronald Reagan’s Cold War policies against the Soviet bloc. Today “neo-conservatism” identifies those who believe in an aggressive policy against radical Islam and the global terrorists.” (David Horowitz)
    William: The GOP should dump the Neocons? Really? Then you would argue that Paulers do not believe in an aggressive policy against radical Islam and the global terrorist.
    That, dear readers, sums up nicely the prevailing thought processes of the Libertarian Rand Paulers. It’s not isolated to their supporters. They are routinely encouraged to condemn modern day “Neocons” and label National Security defenders like Bill Johnson, without even knowing the definition of Neocon today, by Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty.
    Grayson pays lip service to this in his commercials but has not put forth a cogent and realistic plan.
    Paul will cut defense spending by 5%, push to cut & run in Afghanistan and Pakistan(despite the nuclear threat), close all bases abroad, dismantle the CIA, and put an “Invisible Fence” on the southern border, despite the tactical challenge of getting illegal aliens to wear those bulky Invisible Fence collars. He says he’ll end visas for countries known to have Islamic terrorists, over 60 of them.
    Terrorists don’t apply for visas, Randi.
    William: It’s 2010, not 1983. Reagan misjudged the Mid East’s potential to escalate Islamic terrorism. That’s called a mistake. I’m certain he wouldn’t make that mistake again now. Peace Through Strength.
    Get with the program, William.
    The GOP needs to dump the Libertarian element which threatens its very core conservative existence.

30. William R
    February 8th, 2010 @ 6:21 pm

    NeoCons support a Wilsonian FDR, Truman foreign policy. Big government liberal internationalism. The United States getting involved in the Arab Israel conflict. As for Reagan, he wrote his memoirs years after the 1983 incident so he has plenty of time to think about it. He recognized the folly of getting involved in conflicts in that part of the world. A traditional conservative view!

31. Steve Poling
    February 8th, 2010 @ 8:30 pm

    You said: “Palin has a libertarian streak that some of her supporters hadn’t reckoned with”

    A failure to account for this “libertarian streak” (or a tendency to be willfully blind to its existence) is one of the key sources of consternation amongst Republicans Who Know Better Than Us. It doesn’t help that Mrs. Palin’s statements are characterized as “populist” when in truth they are libertarian.

    The only real cure to this disability is to actually pay attention to what she says and has written, and file what others put in her mouth alongside Tina Fey quotes.

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    February 9th, 2010 @ 2:07 am

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33. Doc
    February 9th, 2010 @ 9:41 am

    Reagan also said, William, ““Some of you may remember that in my early days, I was sort of a bleeding heart liberal. Then I became a man and put away childish ways.”
    I remind you, again, This is 2010. Conditions on the ground have changed but you simply want to abandon Israel to a second Holocaust. That’s your solution to global terrorism?
    You cannot address the specific challenges of Post #29 so you attempt a diversion? Your candidate, Prince Randi,is an empty suit, thus you refuse to be responsive.
    At least tell me how he’s going to get those invisible illegal aliens to wear their Invisible Fence collars! While you’re at it, explain how he intends to use his “helicopter gunships” concept? Whom does he intend to shoot? Visible illegals?
    Prince Randi also claims to be able to close the border in three months! Wow! That’s quite a promise. He can’t even keep illegals out of Bowling Green, his hometown and the second fastest growing community of illegals in KY, much less close the border in three months! The fact is he aids and abets human trafficking of illegals into Bowling Green by his own admission!
    Come ahead, William. Show me your stuff. Focus. I know it’s hard too squeeze your thoughts through that little mouse in your right hand but try.
    Tell me how Prince Randi is going to do all these things. Stay en pointe. Don’t wander into ADD, Answer Deficit Disorder.
    I really want a dialogue but find it awkward since you folks never answer a single point! Your Campaign for Liberty tea parties apparantly include more than smoking tea, based on the paucity of substance in your posts and your obvious looseness of associations.

34. William R
    February 9th, 2010 @ 11:50 am

    To hell with Israel. They can take care of themselves. We can no longer afford the empire we have constructed. It it time to cut defense, and that means stop defending nations that are fully capable of defending themselves. It’s time to throw the Neocons under the bus. They drove the Republican over the cliff. And Reagan correctly judged the problems in the Middle East. As our own CIA warned us there is going to be blow back from our actions in the region. The idea that the United States can go around the world and bomb nations without expecting anything in return is absurd.

35. Doc
    February 9th, 2010 @ 4:35 pm

    William,
    Your response is sine qua non representative of why the Pauls cannot be allowed any influence in or election to Washington.

36. William R
    February 9th, 2010 @ 4:57 pm

    Doc, it’s obvious you put the interest of a foreign country ahead of your own. You are just anti-American. As for closing the border, bring our troops home from the Middle East and we could close our border in a week. Ron Paul doesn’t hold any elected office in Bowling Green so he has nothing to do with the illegal problem. Whether it’s 1983 or 2010 nothing has changed. We have troops occupying Muslim countries. Reagan learned from his mistake. It is in the national interest of the United States to be neutral in the Middle East just as Reagan proposed in his memoirs.

37. Doc
    February 9th, 2010 @ 7:38 pm

    So, William, are these the tactics you endorse in politics? What’s next, kneecapping Herr William?

    Get a load of Big Daddy Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty threats against Bill Johnson’s Special Forces Bloggers, a groub of (mostly) disabled, retired, older men and women who support their candidate and engage the opposition.

    Manners, Rand. That’s all it takes.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=230378

38. Doc
    February 10th, 2010 @ 12:40 am

    You’re awfully quiet, William. Who said, “I agree with my father on all but the most minor of issues.”?
    William, these are not minor issues:
    http://reddiva.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/nancy-reagan-would-be-proud-of-you/

39. Doc
    February 12th, 2010 @ 8:41 am

    McCracken County GOP Senate Debate Internet live stream broadcast at 12:30 PM CST Saturday, Feb. 13
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kentucky-us-senat...

    Johnson v.Grayson & Paul

40. kygater
    February 22nd, 2010 @ 8:42 pm

    Count me in at one of those disillusioned by Palin’s endorsement. If she is supposed to be the face of the conservative movement, she has a lot of uncovered homework. There is quite a difference between a true conservative, and a true libertarian. Rand Paul has stated he is a libertarian, but knows he can’t get elected as such in Kentucky, which is the typical politician’s deceitfulness. He has also changed his position on abortion already and he hasn’t even made it to the primaries yet. If Palin really wants credibility, she had better do a little more research before making endorsements, and figure out what party she belongs to, and what her platform is.

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