OOOHHHH, such a rebuke! I am just amazed at your ability to argue.

Can I choose an adjective for you too?

Silence? No, I get long-winded ahistorical paranoid ramblings from old men; I get clever bon mots from morons; and I get union busting paranoia unseen since J Edgar Hoover was putting on a dress to protect conservative values, but I ask a serious question of the only informed commenter here and……..nothing.

I stand corrected: it was later than I thought.

Still, I don’t think the unions can forever rest on those laurels.

Actually there never was a reason for the new Governor and legislature to negotiate after the Republicans won the majority and Governorship. I can’t say what the Unions were thinking, either they just couldn’t believe Republicans would win or they were counting on the Dem lame duck. That was a mistake as the “Lame Duck Dems”, to their credit, refused to p!ss on the will of the people. After Nov 2, the Republicans held all the cards, even the strike card is the Governor’s card if he remains resolute. The unions have lost big and the smarter among them know it. All the shrieking, wailing and rending of garments are merely mourning rituals. With any luck the other Republican run states will realize the time to strike is now while the iron is hot. It would be even luckier if the “Democrats Against Democracy” use the same tactics.

Too bad your corporate friends didn’t think so….working conditions in America at the end of 19th century commonly featured 12 hour workdays, 6-7 days a week and used kids too.

Laws inspired by progressive reformers and unions helped change those laws, which were fought all the way to the Supreme Court by the sort of corporate fetishists one see at a Tea Party rally.

Sad, you didn’t know this. Money doesn’t respect your religion

Only 5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal. Those states and their ranking on ACT/SAT scores are as follows:

South Carolina – 50th
North Carolina – 49th
Georgia – 48th
Texas – 47th
Virginia – 44th

If you are wondering, Wisconsin, with its collective bargaining for teachers, is ranked 2nd in the country.

This isn’t to say that the lack of collective bargaining explains these poor outcomes, of course, but it is true that the evidence that breaking teacher’s unions improves educational outcomes is somewhere between “exceptionally weak” and “non-existent.”

I’ll add how entertaining it is that the states with the lowest ACT/SAT averages also happen to be reliably GOP. I’m sure that’s a coincidence.

Cain is able!!!! Cain 2012

What kind of silly analogy is this? Our Republic has survived a standing army quite well. In fact, the only army that was ever a threat to the nation was the Confederate Army. To your equally silly analogy below; though Reagan did indeed run a union, he also fired the PATCO workers when THEY went on an illegal strike.

the bottom ranking states like SC, NC, GA and TX happen to have a disproportionate number of non-white minorities

Just to clarify, that could be a reason for their low national

Comparing the scores for NY and CA could give a better understanding of this phenomenon.

And whether unions could have played a better role in improving the education levels of African Americans and also the over all standards (ie not hurting the whites at the expense of blacks), in states like SC, NC, GA, VA and TX.

I live in Madison and was at the rally…you tea baggers had about 2k protesters while the pro-freedom movement had 60,000 protesters. Your party is a joke and you know it. You want to talk about racism? Your party consists of white affluent haves.

Get a clue.

If every union
.in the country does not get behind the Wisconsin members all of them will lose their collective rights I did not see any marches in Washington or New York today if you do not act fast you will all lose every hard fought right The country going broke is the fault of the congress not acting not the union members.

I Congratulate WI. A line has been drawn in the sand. In America we have finally found our voices.
We were silent or left in the dark about adding a second language to everything we use, or read in English speaking America.

We were silent when others took the neighbors landscape, house cleaning, child care jobs even our teens summer or after school part time jobs.

We were silent while our children’s classes become over crowded and it appeared they were not learning as quickly. Deliberately being held back to make our American education system fit all one Size.

We held our noses or chose not to vote for someone who had ignored or betrayed us and found the new guy somewhat enchanting at times as he claimed he was for a United States of America. No color or political bent not welcome in his new house.

Now we are seeing neighbor after neighbor, friend and family losing everything they had worked for. Too many all their life’s work gone in a flash.

Many homeless, jobless and hopeless Americans our neighbors friends, family and many of us ourselves doubting we can make it to through the next few months let alone the next election.

Seeing all that is happening around us here and throughout the world. Change is a coming. I do not know how it will end in Egypt.

I do know they needed to do something in Tunisia which I believe so aptly reflects what is happening right here in America and right now.

We have our entire country being held hostage by the most corrupt instigator in American history. Yes I do say that about the Elected President. He is yet again oberstepping what rights he was given by the electorate US.
He seceded 80 miles of one of our soverighn states. Arizona and then sued it in an attempt to stop it from protecting the state including those 80 miles.
That suit was joined by half of South America. Imagine in our life time seeing an elected official ever sue one of our States and joined by foreign countries.

As I said the line has been drawn. We can never lose our voices ever again.

Stand with Arizona, Stand with Wisconsin Stand up for America.

I would suggest we offer this guy to do the right thing and resign. He wouldn’t, he does not have enough wit or class.

Also his wife still has a few countries to visit while draining the Chinese treasury because it sure is not our money. What money we are on is borrowed, print on demand, paper.

Silent majority no more.
English only. Students get to school. Illegals get out while the going is easy. I do not think for one minute ANYONE in America wants to see or hear one iota of demands from you. Not now not anymore. Go and please close the door behind you.

Obama and the national drain on our economy your wife. STOP you wife from any further free rides on our backs. We will not pay for protecting that fool for one instance it is not essecnetial.Period.
Wait till you see the bill if you do not believe me.

Your wife reminds me of giving debit cards affter a trgety. Vegas baby. Not food.. don’t let me go there. Spend like there is not limit or tommorrow.
OVER .. Michelle is your problem don’t make her ours.
It is over.
Not only do most of us not care to be nice anymore. Talk about civility all you want. You sir are the Nations thug in chief, nothing more and if anything allot less.

We Americans were basicly getting by and making do as we hoped to hold out to the end of your reign..

You overstepped yet again. We turned the cheek and it does not work we see your cronies in the other direction.

You, your good for nothing greedy FAT wife, your friends, the unions, the illegals, the early vote acorn types. It is over. I would start the packing because if you and your types are done.

Or if you want to play.

Games on!
Gee and I am a 5′ 2″ mom to four.. I am infuriated beyond belief. I basically would have to say I detest you, your wife, I don’t even think your kids are cute anymore. Not while mine are doing without so much. They aren’t cute your kids that is, your Brazen attempt to appear greater than thou, wide bottomed wife, is making Brats out of them. You will not be able to afford or keep them in line We already see how you cannot keep your wife in line.

Get your house in order.. pack up and go! You Sir, are no leader.
You sir are the UN encapsulated.

Tim.. are you self-employed.. care to offer who writes YOUR checks?

You know many people in the private sector signed employment contracts, too. Some of them lost their jobs because their employers could no longer profitably accomodate them; others were able to keep their jobs only because they renegotiated the terms of their employment and accepted a lower level of compensation.

There is no reason public sector employees should be exempt from the same dynamic. Circumstances change. If you don’t like it, go get a job somewhere else; see if the high esteem in which you hold yourself is justified on the open market.

Hey, Mc Gehee – is this the same timmah that acted up at Protein Wisdom? He sures sound like it.

Timmy – I picked “childish” because it’s an apt adjective for your “Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah. I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you. I’m right, I’m right, I’m right cuz I say so, and Prime Director’s a poopy pants!” reply. If you don’t like the word childish, how about puerile, infantile, immature, or sophomoric?

And Timmy thinks to himself, “I’ve got a great comeback. I’ll say, ‘Big deal. I can look up fancy words, too.’” in 3 ..2..1.

In case you were wondering you are awesome. I’m a UW student with a high school teacher for a father. I’ve been at the protests for the past five days. It seems like every time I talk to anyone who hasn’t been there they are missing the point. Thank you for understanding.

the same policemen and firefighters who supported the Govenor and whose unions are exempt? Like I said, union-busting of political opponents. Quit trying to make it sound high and mighty; it’s crass electioneering

I did not steal my ideology from anybody I was honored to receive it and was presented to me with full Robber Baron’s Honors.

I remember it as if it was yesterday it was a nice spring day in 1898 on the grounds of the recently opened Biltmore. George Vanderbilt was, as always a very gracious host. It was a small simple ceremony only about 300 of the best sort attended, J. Pierpont Morgan, Jay Gould, Leland Stanford, and Andrew Carnegie. We were seated on exquisitely crafted lawn furniture made from a type of wood I didn’t recognize but which had silver dust worked into the surface by hand, producing a gleaming surface. We had discovered years ago that peasants made poor furniture. For entertainment there was a string quartet. During one of the breaks in the music I heard gunfire in the distance when I inquired as to the cause, Henry Frick assured me that it was nothing merely that some union organizers had been apprehended attempting come on the grounds and were being um….disciplined.

Cornelius Vanderbilt made some brief remarks and the informal ceremony commenced James J. Hill presented me with my ideology and the brief ceremony ended. Having the correct ideology is crucial if one is properly exploit the masses which we all know is the key to good business as well as good governance.

yawn

Who isn’t a Commie to you, Bobby Welch? You see them on blogs, under your beds, protesting politically, taking the fries you serve them at work, driving by your mom’s trailer in their fancy cars. Where don’t YOU see “bolshes,” little John Birch?

You should move there then. Maybe they have days where you can bash poor people in the street with a hammer for fun or shoot the ones who ask for a handout. Sounds like a perfect place for Ayn Randian doofus who thinks there are Commies hiding behind the tree in his yard

I think Nixon said it better when he was dividing the country, but it’s cool you haven’t forgotten whom to hate

Never got around to reading the manual for that.