Anybody really think this will get any further in the Senate than CC&B?

The Senate voted 59 to 41 to table the bill. Apparently they will use this bill as a shell to carry what Reid wants as a Congressman just pointed out they could have done that a week ago with the first CC&B bill and avoided this weeks horseshit.

I recommend taking a “short” position on our current government as well as the economy.

Resistance is not futile.

Old School Compromise. 

But if Reid had moved on the CC&B bill, he wouldn’t have been able to ramp this up to a full blown crisis.  Create divisions w/i the GOP.  Let none dare say, Reid and the Dims, are risking the full faith and credit of the US, just for political purposes.

You got that right! We’re tired of the same old BS coming out of DC. And as soon as we can, we’re going to give Grahmnesty his walking papers, too.

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It probably does no good whatsoever, but a tabled bill (such as CC&B) can be un-tabled. I’ve been writing and urging my senatrixes (I cannot, for the life of me, manage to respect Boxer) to bring it to the Senate and vote for it.

Considering that it’s the only bill that does the slightest bit of good in the here-and-now, it seems like a good idea to push it.

House Speaker John A. Boner’s bill is phoney, and *unless* the man is astoundingly stupid, he knows it.

The cuts are anemic, and rely on our rating to keep the cost of the debt down! IF the rate change is even in the *lowest* region of the increase usually caused by a rating change, THE SAVINGS WILL BE WIPED OUT!
IF the rate change is more normally placed in the region of increase, our debt curve climb is almost asymptotic! It quickly (on paper) reaches an almost vertical climb and freezes there… Our descendants will never be able to climb out of debt.

I know what you’re thinking. Of course, in the real world indebtedness *can’t* follow an asymptotic curve, so what *does* happen?
The currency or the country fails, folds, and in the latter case is divided by the stronger nations.

Now, remember that Speaker Boner(R-Progie), before he moved to DC owned & ran a successful plastics & packaging business.

You don’t build a successful business if you are stupid…
Therefore: he KNOWS his numbers are phoney, just for the slopeheads, and his dishonesty is purposeful.

Can we force a change in Speakers? I’d rather have an honest blackguard there than a lying traitorous backstabbing SOB.

And all you guys saying “it is the best we can do” — did any of you look at the numbers? It isn’t like they even tried to hide the fact that interest rates had to remain near zero to realize any slowing of growth! Don’t you know what happens to your interest rates when your rating drops?
Honestly! If an (almost zombified) old man who’s survived multiple strokes can see this, why can’t you young’uns?

But don’t you understand? It’s not important whether you win or lose, its how you play the game. We have principles to which we must adhere, damnit! And as I am sure we are all aware, in politics, nothing is anywhere near as important as principles.

Sure we might lose what we fought so long and hard to gain. But if we do, the people will see how wrong we are. Maybe in a year or two. Or maybe three or four. But that doesn’t matter. We will show them, by God. We will show them all.

From your lips, brother…

Mike, they’re called ‘Massholes’.

TPT, I think you mistake me. I *am* one of those who say to “Stand on. Principle”.

Above *all*, Honesty. You can come to terms with an honest highwayman… you pay the ransom and you’re released. That honest highwayman won’t ask beyond reason — he doesn’t want to have to deal with your inability to pay.

The Dishonest highwayman ransoms you, but doesn’t let go. He doesn’t want a living, he wants control. He’ll ask for more and more with a never-ending hunger… then he’ll kill the hostage.

These dishonest highwayman have held our economy hostage since Wilson, and they figure it is time to kill the hostage. They figure we’re so stupid we’ll keep LOTE-ing along, send more apprentice dis-honest highwaymen to them & their crooked finishing school until it is too late.

Our Founding Fathers warned us against LOTE-ing along, and they recognized that we won our Independence and our Country against impossible odds by the Hand Of Providence.

Most said that when we stopped being a moral nation that relied on the Hand Of Providence, we would fall.

How Prophetic they were!

Interest rates have been kept at artificially low rates for such a long time that there’s bound to be a huge amount of pressure built up behind the dam.

Like somebody said in another thread – one debt to rule them all.

What is wrong with Scott Brown.  I know he has to appease his liberal base, but going with Harry Reid?  Still he did apparently vote for the Boehner plan…but why then say he likes Reid.  Who does he think he is?  Lindsay Graham? 

“My fellow Americans, I ask you: If I had voted “No” on the Budget Control Act, who would I have been voting for?”

The constituents who sent you there, the generations yet unborn who will be fitted for shackles as they take their first breath, and the principles that founded the country. “Give me Liberty, or give me Death!”

Martha Roby, the Republican lapdog (metaphorically speaking, not literally)

I’m all for principles, they come in a close second after #Winning.

This morning, I read that Mexico’s unemployment rate is 4.9%. Guess where the illegals are going? Home!

Our credit rating was doomed sometime in the aughts. There could in theory have been an opportunity to change that course in 08 but that path was barely considered. It’s just as well really, does anyone really think the US Government’s credit should be rated AAA?

And if people put doing what’s “right” above winning, they won’t ever get a damn thing done because they will very seldom find themselves in the position to be able to enact their high-minded ideals. You’re just naive, dude. And that’s fine, what you believe is your own business. But when what you believe puts all of us in danger, then you need to step back and come up for air. We live in a mixed nation as far as morality, integrity, and ethics goes, and whether you like it or not we have to adjust to that reality.

Or since you’re convinced the republic can’t work other than with a “moral people” what are you saying then, that we should hang it up? Or are you saying that liberal Democrats are moral? Do you even know what you’re saying?

What makes me different from a communist is I believe in the federalist ideals of the constitution. That’s all I’m required to believe in. And those are the only principles I give a good rats ass about. And yes, in order to see them enacted and everything that goes against them thrown out, then by God I want to WIN and I want to WIN by any means possible. Once we are in the position to enact the principles of limited government and liberty etc as outlined in the constitution then you’re free to preach all the sermons you want. Until such time you are free to get in your own way as much as you want, just stay out of mine.