People Who Like Sarah Palin Liked Her Iowa Speech; Ace of Spades, Not So Much

Posted on | September 3, 2011 | 130 Comments

Sarah Palin gave her big speech in Indianola while I was at lunch today with Da Tech Guy. However, I got a sort of live feed on the event via a series of text messages from Tea Party activist Tiffiny Ruegner.

“No doubt she’s campaigning,” Tiffiny texted, and at the end: “Finished. Didn’t announce. . . . You’ll get the story in New Hampshire.”

The part elided (“…”) involved the suggestion that perhaps Palin did not announce her presidential candidacy at Indianola because of her displeasure with the bungled organizing of the rally. So Tiffiny’s theory is that Palin will announce Monday at the Manchester rally, and I pass that along as an interesting theory to consider.

Doug Brady at Conservatives for Palin has a comprehensive round-up of the speech, including the complete video:

Here’s Jennifer Jacobs of the Des Moines Register:

Although this audience of like-minded conservatives passionately urged her to run, Palin during her 40-minute speech did not say whether she will seek the Republican nomination for president.

Here’s Alex Pappas of the Daily Caller:

“The reality is we are governed by a permanent political class,” Palin said to applause from a rain-soaked audience in Indianola, “until we change that.”
The crowd at the Tea Party for America’s “Restoring America” event ate it up. She was interrupted during her speech to chants of “Run, Sarah, Run.”

And here’s Scott Conroy of Real Clear Politics:

Sarah Palin still isn’t a candidate, but in an aggressive bid to lay down her marker in the 2012 Republican presidential race, she delivered a speech here Saturday that was as confrontational toward the Republican establishment as it was aimed at President Obama.
Despite her high-profile endorsement of Rick Perry during his 2010 gubernatorial primary fight, Palin used thinly veiled language to leave little doubt that she sees the Texas governor and national front-runner for the Republican nomination as part of the problem.
“Some GOP candidates, they also raise mammoth amounts of cash,” Palin said. “We need to ask them, too: What, if anything, do their donors expect from their investments? We need to know this because our country can’t afford more trillion-dollar thank-you notes to campaign backers.”
Again and again, Palin urged her audience to confront “the permanent political class,” “crony capitalism” and “the good ol’ boys,” whom she said she took on as governor of Alaska.

The idea that Palin may enter the 2012 field because of her dissatisfaction with Perry’s campaign is intriguing, but I’ll save that for another post. For now, let’s consider Ace’s idea that Palin’s just jerking everybody around:

[A]fter the encouragement of interest, and the cultivation of speculation about what that “major announcement” might be, it was a very standard-issue and not-particularly-important or novel stump speech.
Some might find this sort of coyness and games-playing “brilliant” or the like. I don’t.
Some may claim she “played a trick on the media.” Yes, the media. And everyone else too. . . .
Who’s being pranked here? The media in attendance were all paid to be there. Their travel arrangements were comped. They’ll get back their vacation day. And it was either covering this or covering Jon Huntsman.
What about everyone else?

You can go read the whole thing. Ace seems to be more or less on the Perry bandwagon at this point, so a bit of Palin-vs.-Perry drama may be shaping up . . . But as I say, that’s another post.

The “paid to be there” factor was part of the reason I didn’t go to Indianola. If I had thought she was going to announce, I might have made the trip. But I’d already spent 10 days in Iowa, whereas I hadn’t been to New Hampshire yet, so this trip seemed to me the better bargain for the tip-jar hitters. It’s cheaper, because I can crash on Da Tech Guy‘s sofa and ride with him, rather than paying for a hotel room and renting a car.

Florida, on the other hand . . . but let’s not get ahead of the story.

Category: Ace of Spades, Election 2012, Iowa, Sarah Palin

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130 Responses to “People Who Like Sarah Palin Liked Her Iowa Speech; Ace of Spades, Not So Much”

ThePaganTemple
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:47 am

Yeah, I would say they’re bullshit. Especially if they’re saying 72% of the Tea Party wouldn’t vote for her in the general. I would say that’s bullshit with a frothy layer of whipped cat piss topping.
ThePaganTemple
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:48 am

So why don’t they promote her and encourage her like they do Jon Cuntsman.
ThePaganTemple
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:50 am

To be fair, she’s making a lot of us crazy. I was almost sure she was going to announce on Labor Day, which is the traditional day for such announcements. I’m still hoping she does so, but its only a little over a day away. She needs to not wait much longer than that, because by the time another month or two is over with a good many of the big money bundlers and others are going to be making commitments.
Adjoran
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:10 am

No, Palin touted this speech as being the start of an “adult conversation” dealing with plans and policies. She delivered more vague generalities. Good speech, but it could have come from several of the declared candidates on the stump. Even Huntsman has proposed eliminating corporate taxes (not a bad idea on its own, very hard to sell to independents who have been raised to mistrust corporations).

The whole will-I-or-won’t-I? dance has become tedious. If Palin intends to be a serious candidate, she should get in and demonstrate that. If she intends not to run, she should stop playing and say so. If it were just the media being jerked around, that would be fine with me, they have earned such treatment and she’s earned the right to give it to them. But her active and potential supporters are also being played, and it’s no longer coy.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:13 am

Johnson created the “Great Society” Nixon funded it then expanded it. He created the EPA and OSHA, he crowed that we are all Keynesians now. He implemented a wage and price freeze. He was obsessed with power and delusions of grandeur, remember the gold braided White House Guard uniforms?http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,876538,00.html

Nixon was a swine and blackguard, small and petty and despite his denials he was indeed a crook.
Adjoran
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:14 am

Ace hasn’t always been a down-the-line conservative and no one is going to accuse him of being the deepest thinker in blogging, but he’s a decent guy, pretty smart and pretty conservative. He’s come out that he thinks he’s be fine with Perry, and thinks the guy is probably going to win. But he’s tried to back up his opinions with his reasoning most of the time, you can disagree and may be right on any given day BUT to try and make him an enemy because of it just shows the paranoid streak in certain groups.

I don’t think he’s endorsed Perry at all, in fact – but you’d never know that from some of the comments here, would you?
CalMark
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:17 am

All these deep thinkers here, throwing mud at Palin and the people who support her. Wow.

To channel Rush Limbaugh: Maybe you’re right; 4 more years of Obama is INFINITELY better.

I tried this line on a Palin-hating California who is (as near as I can tell) libertarian-ish and voted for Obama in 2008 (“I didn’t know who he was”–and still she voted for him?). She just got snarky and ran away.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:20 am

Just clic on their icons if you’re looking for…. um.. context.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:42 am

Ace is a conservative Republican, but I think he’s decided that Perry is the best shot at beating Zero.
RichG.inIN
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:01 am

You have hit the nail on the head with direct and precise accuracy. The people supporting, working for and/or on the Rick Perry bandwagon saw what the Democratic Party and The Mainstream Media did in 2008 with Barack Obama. Obama was never vetted. They never told us how or if Obama was qualified to be POTUS. The media never said anything about his political history, his education, or anything. Mainsteam Media plus Democratic Party equals a slobbering lovefest orgy party. Rick Perry is not a true conservative Republican and the media and Democrats know it. After managing a failed POTUS campaign for Global Warmist nutcase Al Gore in 1988, Rick Perry realized any further chances of extending his political career as a Democrat in Texas was futile so he conveniently changes parties to become a Republican without changing his true political stripes (beliefs). Anyone who tries to tell you the true facts about Rick Perry’s record gets hostile treatment from his whiny supporters and/or campaign people.
RichG.inIN
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:12 am

Correct. Sarah Palin dropped a big hint during her speech. That being the corporate tax issue. She said “My plan…..” Does that not tell you naysayers something?
RichG.inIN
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:31 am

You got it!!!! The pollster conducting that poll survey is in bed with the Perry campaign big time.
Dave
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:52 am

There’s a couple of things going on here, and in order to have an (heh) adult conversation about Palin for president, we have to acknowledge them.

First, all of us have to realize that we aren’t the electorate. We’re political junkies, and arguing about this stuff is what gets our juices flowing. You can find our stripe here, or on AoSHQ or Legal Insurrection or Scragged or a dozen other blogs. The idiots have their own version of this going at HuffyPoo or Kos or Firedogflake etc. It doesn’t matter. There’s not a man jack one of us who isn’t going to go out and vote for the Republican candidate next year (although I hope that we’ll ALL also work for him/her), and not a man jack one of those morons who won’t vote for Bambi in November 2012, no matter his record (although I hope many of them will be dispirited that their fantasy Marxist paradise hasn’t come to fruition and sit on their hands). To steal an image from an 80s film, this is all St. Elmo’s Fire. It’s not real. We’re not the problem, the great unwashed public is, and they haven’t even started thinking about the election yet.

Second, we have to realize that polls are poison right now(to the conservative cause). Reacting to polls is what they want us to do. Polls 14 months out don’t mean a damn thing, but the MSM wants us to believe that current polls should dictate our future actions. This is the trap that Ace and many others fall into. I had a debate with Ace over this very issue. He seems to believe that because polls indicate that Palin is someone that a majority of the polled would “never” vote for, that means we shouldn’t support Palin. I get the sense that Ace doesn’t dislike Palin so much as believe that she has no chance of being elected, period, and so he opposes her because he realizes as we all do that this next election is absolutely vital. He forgets that there is something called a “campaign”. Palin can make her case to the public, and the chips will fall where they may. The US is going to return to it’s core principles, or it is going to go down. He isn’t willing to chance having that happen, and thus he’s willing to throw everything behind a “kinda” conservative like Perry and do all he can to derail Perry’s opponents. I get the impulse while at the same time rejecting the “pragmatic” thought behind it.

Third, we, you and I, all the “little people”, with all our passion, have no idea what we’re going up against. Politics is amoral. Hell, it’s un-moral(to coin a word) It’s all about power. Our Founding Fathers tried so hard to take this out of the equation, but they failed. They got it right, but over the centuries their ideals have been subordinated to the human need to control others. Palin actually embodies the ideal that the Founding Fathers were going for. Say what you will about her, and I might agree with some of it, but nobody can deny that she’s just an average American, called to serve for a time.

Is Palin going to run? I dunno. Personally, I hope she does, but she may not. I think that Perry got the bounce she was counting on, she bode her time to jump in when no other great candidate would, and Perry by jumping in stole her thunder. It was a brilliant move, Perry coopteed Palin’s strategy.

Can she recover? Should she? I hope she will, for one simple reason. I believe that Sarah Palin, while a politician, is still a regular American, who wants to do her best for the country. Perry is a professional politician. Obama cares about nothing but himself. Given the choice, I know what I’d chose. Hopefully America agrees.
Jimmie
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:09 am

I think you (and others) are just choosing to look at it that way.

See how that empty argument is easily turned on you? Then again, I do have more than a few public opinion polls on the subject and none of them look good for Palin.

Consider what a non “insider” (and I honestly don’t know how you have defined that word) has seen from and about Palin in just this year. She launched a bus tour into New England with the stated purpose of highlighting American History, but she botched an impromptu line, spent more time fighting a media battle instead of just going on with her tour, and cancelled the whole thing early.

Well, except that, according to her, she didn’t cancel it. She just had to go on jury duty in Alaska. For a month.

Then she resumed her tour just in time to go to Iowa right before the Ames Straw Poll. No historic sites there, but a few speeches that had nothing at all to do with a Presidential candidacy. She did suck a lot of oxygen from candidates who were there campaigning, though (whose help she is likely to need if she does run and does win the nomination).

Then…back on a brief hiatus. Well, until now, when there was supposed to be a big announcement. Except there was no big announcement.

And soon, she says, she’ll travel to New Hampshire where — and this is a complete coincidence, I’m sure — there is an important Presidential primary coming up relatively soon. But she’s not a candidate at all. She just happens to show up in key electoral states right around the time of key electoral events.

How do you think that might look to an undecided voter who is looking for a forthright, open candidate who can promise some decisiveness and an even-keel to balance out the four years of capricious and self-aggrandizing Barack Obama? I promise you it doesn’t look good.
Guest
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:18 am

This is the same Ace who swore up and down that without the first Porkulus, “the trucks would stop running”; and who continues to defend his hysteria today.
Yes, seriously.
Guest
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:24 am

Where do you see the poster say that Palin wasn’t conservative enough?
All he said was that, as a Palin supporter, he’d become fatigued by her refusal to either enter the race or conclusively step out… something he’s not alone in.

Since you are stuck inventing nonexistant arguementes to refute, I have to conclude you are pretty much an idiot.
Thanks for embarassing yourself.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:37 am

A whole bunch of people fell for the whole it’s the end of the world as we know it hysteria, they’re not all Charles Johnson or Sully crazy.
Adjoran
September 4th, 2011 @ 9:06 am

I feel odd being Ace’s defender, since my usual role is to mock his errors and masculinity, and accuse him of committing acts of unspeakable depravity with AllahPundit behind closed doors.

Yes, he seems to have scratched Palin off his list a while back, judging her unelectable. He points to her high negatives among independents, and that she only gains 66% approval among Republicans, and notes that candidates with those numbers don’t win nominations or elections. Her high name recognition means for many voters their opinion of her is already set.

The diehard Palin fans insist Palin can overcome the negatives and increase the approval in the campaign. Ace notes it’s been over 2 1/2 years since the last election; wouldn’t her numbers be turning at least somewhat already if they were ever going to?

But some still believe she can overcome all the problems even if no one else has been able to. They never have any specific reasons she would be able to do this, or any rationale for their belief at all beyond blind faith in the power of her personality.
Kitty Myers
September 4th, 2011 @ 11:32 am

Just as a point of reference… Bill Clinton declared his candidacy on October 3, 1991, and Ronald Reagan declared his on November 13, 1979.

I didn’t expect Sarah Palin to announce yesterday. Do I think she’s running? You betcha! And when she announces I’ll be ready.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 11:43 am

Actually, I’m glad McCain lost, for the same reason I won’t vote for Mittens: If we’re going to keep policies that will crash the country (hello, Obamneycare), I want the Copperheads to own it all. ALL Romney RINOs do is give Copperheads cover.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 11:46 am

He’s already filed a lawsuit months ago to block it. It was his flat refusal to even try to write regs that led O! to take away all licensing ability from Texas last year.

As a Texan, I’m pretty satisfied with Perry. Perfect? Not even his hair. Until and unless Palin announces, he’s the best we have.
Elize Nayden
September 4th, 2011 @ 12:10 pm

I hope she stays out of the race. If she gets in, there will be only bad consequences:

1. She turns out to be the second coming of Barry Goldwater, wins the nomination by inspiring conservatives like only she can right now and gets crushed in the general election.

2. She splits the conservative vote without winning and Romney will be our nominee. I dont know if conservatives really would show up at the polls in Nov. 2012 to make auntie Mildred Commander in Chief.

3. No matter which other Republican wins the nomination, I am not so sure her very… well… passionate followers would accept the defeat of The Undefeated. The Democrats didnt face a unity problem after their primary in 2008, but we might.

As much as I like her, she would make a second term of the scoamf-in-chief more likely.
rosalie
September 4th, 2011 @ 12:35 pm

I believe Bachmann is a true Tea Partier, but I no long support her. After learning about Rollins and his past history, I was turned off right from the beginning. Then he made deragatory remarks about Palin. That was uncalled for and it took a while until Bachmann made a statement about it. And that’s only one of several incidents that changed my mind about her. After reading Palin’s book, I’ve become a believer in her and all that she’s accomplished. I know she’s not perfect, but she seems like the kind of person who will be looking out for the average citizen. I think Bachmann has as much chance as an ice cube in a frying pan in getting elected. This country needs another Reagan, and Palin’s it. I just hope she runs.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 12:41 pm

If she is not running, then her refusal to say that she is not running is annoying and manipulative. However, if she is running, then her refusal to say that she is running is tactical, trying to find the best time to enter.

What is truly annoying is how fickle the right is, and how they are always so eager for the next great hope. After Brown was elected in MA, there were people wondering if he should be a candidate in 2012. Christie in NJ was touted as presidential material withing weeks of his election. Remember how Trump soared in the polls when he was contemplating a run? Now it is Perry’s turn. Why should we expect the enthusiasm for him to last? Right now he looks good because the Obama machine has not muddied him up, but they are experts at character assassination–look what they did to a charismatic, effective, bipartisan reformer from Alaska.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 12:44 pm

The media just can’t handle not being in control can they. She doesn’t have to decide yet, Reagan and Clinton didn’t jump in until Oct and Nov. Why should she jump in now, so she can get hammered and called a slut again? I wouldn’t, I’d wait as long as legally possible. I think she has been running since the day she stepped down from being governor. She has been the only one who has called Obama out on the crap he’s done and is going to do, who else has? She’s her own boss, like she said today, she can’t be bought, and polls are for strippers and skiers. Ace is a putz, he thinks mandating vaccines for little girls is the price of freedom…or something, his words not mine. Next, Erick Erickson will try and knock her down, what’s up with these boys?
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 1:12 pm

I am underwhelemed by you concern…
just a conservative girl
September 4th, 2011 @ 1:15 pm

Actually I am very consistent on this issue. I don’t like when politicians get cult like followings. It isn’t healthy for our country. I scared me when it was Obama, it scares with me Palin. It scares me with Paul. I have yet to personally experience it with Perry, but if that is what he has I am against that too.

If you think a politician belongs on a pedastel, they will only let you down. Our system was designed to crititize as part of the checks and balances within the system. Everyone needs to be vetted and eveyone needs to be called out when they do or say something stupid. I don’t care who they are or what party they are from.
Paul Zummo
September 4th, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

Frankly Ace is one of the few bloggers on the right who hasn’t turned into a cult of personality. He’s one of the rare conservative bloggers who simultaneously critiques the RINO rubbish while also fighting back the “OMG THIS GOES TO ELEVENTY!!!!!” crowd.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 1:49 pm

If she is not a candidate at all, as you say, then what she is doing is manipulative and wrong. But if she is a candidate biding her time to formally announce, then most of your argument is based on a false premise. We should find out which is correct in the next month.
ltw
September 4th, 2011 @ 2:30 pm

Given that one of Gov. Palin’s specific points is to take on “relentless and sudden reform” (i.e. crony capitalism), I find it hard to believe that she would enter “early”. To take that on, she will not get large bundlers/funders, which has been her way as she has sought elected office at the top of her own ticket. I guess I just don’t understand why she would waste money jumping in early when she doesn’t have to. I’m hoping she gets in to the race, and people see how a reformer has to and can run. We need more reformers, not just at the presidential level.

I heard Gov. Palin respond to a “reporter” on the rope line who asked about zero corporate income tax by saying, there are a lot of loopholes at every level.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 2:43 pm

You have to remember that in the context of the times, there was a national consensus on domestic policy, and the only substantial difference between the parties was on foreign policy: the Democrats were moving toward appeasement and isolationism while the Republicans were still fighting the Long
War against the Soviet Union and its client states. There was no significant libertarian faction within the GOP at the time. To rank on Nixon for being a man of his times is just ignorant, especially when he never had a Republican House or Senate to work with.

Much of his image as “a swine and a blackguard, small and petty…” comes to us from the NY/DC/LA media, who hated him for not being part of the Establishment, for taking down Alger Hiss, and for not staying in obscurity after losing the governor’s race in California.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 2:51 pm

I wouldn’t go so far as to call Palin’s supporters “cult-like”. It’s more of the typical feudalism that’s always been endemic in the GOP. Look at how people identify themselves, for the most part, right down to the local level. Until recently, people didn’t label themselves as “libertarians”, “social conservatives” or whatever, they identified themselves in terms of the candidate they were working for/supporting. Calling that cult-like is unnecessarily adding heat to the discussion.
Rosalie
September 4th, 2011 @ 2:54 pm

Why is she “jerking around” anyone when she gave a time frame for her definitive decision? And that time frame was at the end of September.
Garym
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:04 pm

Its amazing that support for a potential candidate is a cult following, but supporting another candidate other than Palin is just support. Idiocy.
rosalie
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

She has proven herself over and over again, and she has done it the hard way – fighting the good ol’ boys. It’s not blind faith or her personality. She has what it takes to do it because she’s already done it.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

Apparently you didn’t listen to her speech. Her not getting in means business as usual and we find a candidate who says one thing & does another. Our country is rapidly sinking with zero employment last month, almost half the population on government assistance, and the one possible candidate that has a history of fighting corruption & doing the will of the people and you have the audacity to say “I hope she stays out” because I love false promises & backroom deals. You might want to do some more thinking!
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 4:15 pm

All good points, which partly excuse Nixon’s record. But in critically analyzing that past national consensus, we’d have to partly censure leaders like Nixon, too.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 4:15 pm

All good points, which partly excuse Nixon’s record. But in critically analyzing that past national consensus, we’d have to partly censure leaders like Nixon, too.
ThePaganTemple
September 4th, 2011 @ 4:32 pm

Damn well said on all points. On the other hand, he was an admitted Keynesian. And there was Wage And Price Controls. And then there was his EPA.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 4:41 pm

A single buoy of truth in an ocean of empty blather. Bravo.
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September 4th, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

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Dave
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

Ace notes it’s been over 2 1/2 years since the last election; wouldn’t
her numbers be turning at least somewhat already if they were ever going
to?

This is where i disagree most with Ace, and it’s all related to the first point I made in my previous post. You and I are paying attention to this stuff. To us,”it’s been 2 1/2 years and she hasn’t moved her numbers! OMG! Eleventy!!”. To all the normal people out there, Palin is a name mentioned occasionally on the news. She’s the stupid one who said she can see Russia from her house. Haha, what a ditz, say, did you pick up my shirts from the cleaners? In other words, dislike for her is broad but not deep, from talking to people my impression is that many of them “would never consider” Sarah Palin because dising Palin has been sold by the MSM as what all the cool kids are doing. THAT is something that can change with a campaign. My position all along has been “let her run and let the chips fall where they may”. What gets my dander up is people who stupidly decide that we should eliminate one candidate or another before the campaign even starts based upon the nebulous concept of “electability” as defined by a media desperate for our side to lose. F*&% that. These people are not our friends, folks, we need to support who and what we believe in, no matter what they say. Our ideals are the bedrock of this nation, our policies provably correct. If we can’t “sell” that in a campaign….the country is doomed anyway. I believe that we can.
Rose
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

I would have said that too, but for the distinct change in tone over the past several months. It’s not just liking Palin (and Perry, btw), it is distinct shift in tone regarding Obama himself. It’s not overt, it’s a subtle shift in the choice of words. The kind of shift that represents a change in mindset.

The overt shifts are seen elsewhere – Obama is becoming his own worst enemy – http://tinyurl.com/3vcof7n – One and done? (Maureen Dowd) http://tinyurl.com/4ygsc2k – HotAir points out commentary from Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast. – http://tinyurl.com/3gampcr – Robert Redford on Obama: ‘Like So Many Others I’m Beginning to Wonder Just Where the Man Stands’

Mind you, like Dowd, they still operate from the premise that Obama is good (read the first part of her piece), and the Republicans are recalcitrant, their world view is slower in catching up to reality, but it is happening.

Obama was an empty mirrored vessel that reflected back to the viewer their own high ideals and aspirations. People saw themselves, and they imagined that he shared their dreams and their own goodness and dedication, and they were buoyed by this happy thought. What he is, in fact, is a dirty Chicago politician without a moral compass. (Yes, Joe Biden was wrong, he wasn’t “clean.”)

People should have paid more attention to his record with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and his record with Rezko and other “projects” like Grove Parc. They’d have seen what he does with other people’s money.

I believe, way too late – people are starting to SEE.

Sarah Palin is the POLAR OPPOSITE to Obama.
Donald Douglas
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:49 pm

Linked: “Sarah Palin at Indianola: ‘Polls Are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers…'”. Palin gives great speeches, continually proving she’s heartland like no one else. After awhile, though, coyness starts to break hearts. She’s draggin’ folks along. It hurts and gets old.
Anonymous
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:07 pm

There was some consensus among the left side of the Republican party and the Democratic party, that would be that this Big Government sh!t is a wonderful idea. It was Nixon not LBJ who sold out the South Vietnamese. While Nixon’s primary opponents, with the exception of Reagan, were left Republicans that doesn’t make Nixon a conservative. Even FDR didn’t impose wage and price controls until we entered the war. This kind of policy might be justified in wartime due to massive distortions a world war inflicts on an economy. IMO Nixon’s actions and lack of respect for rule of law serve as an example to the Zero of what a president can get away with if he’s more careful than Nixon was. He went over the line in using the power of the presidency to punish his enemies more out of hubris and pettiness than necessity. I believe he is as responsible for the empowerment of the left as anybody.

I stand by my characterization of Nixon as a politician and human being.
Mortimer Snerd
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:28 pm

What does “OMG THIS GOES TO ELEVENTY!!!!!” crowd mean?
Deetz
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:37 pm

Oh puh-leeeeze, cry me a river.

Pull up yer britches, nancy-boy.

tD
Deetz
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:52 pm

One quibble…

I think Palin actually /wanted/ Perry to jump in because she realizes if she fillets both Mitt /and/ Perry, it goes a long way to corral a hostile GOP establishment.

Just muh 2 cent.

tD
Deetz
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:11 pm

Ahhhh, the pure nectar of historical context.

Thanks, Wombat.

As to Adobe’s characterization of Nixon, Mr. Dick’s only “crime,” was to initiate a piss-poor imitation of democrat ooze.

He should have left that to the democrats, aka, professional criminals.

tD
ed
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:16 pm

You haven’t been there in some time have you?

One particular aspect does not impress me about AoS is their version of “Support the Nominee”. Oh as long as the Republican is a solid Establishment Republican then AoS is fully supportive and will hammer anyone who doesn’t toe the line. But if that nominee is a fiscal conservative or a Tea Party conservative then AoS just basically shrugs and then attacks.

And that is only one of a long list. But hey if you like it there, go. Personally I don’t waste my time there.

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