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NY-9: Turner Time?
UPDATE: ‘I See Dead Voters!’

Posted on | September 13, 2011 | 38 Comments


UPDATE 12:13 a.m. ET: While AP has called it for Turner, Democrat Dave Weprin has not yet conceded:

Businessman Bob Turner (R) defeated state Assemblyman David Weprin (D) in the special election for the House seat held by former New York Rep. Anthony Weiner (D).
Turner’s victory is regarded as an upset given the Democratic history of the 9th district, which takes in portions of Brooklyn and Queens, as well as the fact that President Obama carried the seat by 11 points in 2008.
Weprin has yet to concede, but the Associated Press has called the race for Turner.

Turner becomes the first Republican elected in this district since 1923.

UPDATE 12:25 a.m. ET: How big is this win?

This is the same congressional seat that was held by pervert Anthony Weiner, before he tweeted his meat. This is also the some congressional seat that was once held by far left Marxist Chuck Schumer, and even 1984 VP nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Now it’s held by Republican Bob Turner, thanks to the epic failure of Obama, and his anti Israel policies!

In other words, SCOAMF.

UPDATE 1 a.m. ET: Matt Drudge’s headline:

From the Associated Press story Drudge linked:

Weprin, a 56-year-old Orthodox Jew and member of a prominent Queens political family, seemed a good fit for the largely white, working-class district, which is nearly 40 percent Jewish.
But voter frustration with Obama put Weprin in the unlikely spot of playing defense. A Siena Poll released Friday found just 43 percent of likely voters approved of the president’s job performance, while 54 percent said they disapproved. Among independents, just 29 percent said they approved of Obama’s job performance.
Turner, a 70-year-old Catholic, vowed to push back on Obama’s policies if elected. . . .
Weprin became embroiled in New York-centric disputes over Israel and gay marriage, which cost him some support among Jewish voters.
Orthodox Jews, who tend to be conservative on social issues, expressed anger over Weprin’s vote in the Assembly to legalize gay marriage. In July, New York became one of six states to recognize same-sex nuptials.
Former Mayor Ed Koch, a Democrat, endorsed Turner in July as a way to “send a message” to Obama on his policies toward Israel. And Weprin was challenged on his support of a proposed Islamic center and mosque near the World Trade Center site, in lower Manhattan.

So: Obama, gay marriage, Israel and the Ground Zero Mosque. I’m sure Charles Johnson will blame this election on Pamela Geller.

UPDATE 11:55 p.m. ET: Republican Bob Turner is still leading — by a margin of about 2,400 votes, 53%-47% — but I just now saw this shocking story at ABC News:

Claiming a handful of deceased voters have been mailed absentee ballots for today’s special election, an attorney for Republican congressional candidate Bob Turner told ABC News that he has obtained a court order to seal all paper ballots in New York’s 9th Congressional District, pending judicial review.
“We found five dead people, confirmed, who were mailed absentee ballots,” said Turner’s attorney, Grant Lally. “Some of these people have been dead for years.”

Now Democrats will accuse Republicans of necrophobia.

PREVIOUSLY: It is very early — polls closed at 9 p.m. ET and we’ve only got 7 of 512 precincts reporting as of 10:15 p.m. — but Republican Bob Turner is leading 55%-44% in the New York district formerly represented by Anthony Weiner.

UPDATE: The White House is already spinning NY-9 as something other than a referendum on Obama, even though the Turner campaign has been nothing but all-Obama-bashing-all-the-time.

UPDATE 10:30 p.m. ET: OK, now a few more precincts reporting — we’re up to 13 of 512 — and it’s Turner 53%, Weprin 47%.

This might be a good time to mention a conversation I had in Tampa with someone who knows New York politics very well. My source mentioned Democrat Dov Hikind’s endorsement of Turner and said: “Dov Hikind doesn’t endorse losers.” FWIW.

UPDATE 10:40 p.m. ET: With 45 of 512 precincts reporting, it’s Turner 52%, Weprin 47%. There’s a good chance the Republican will win, but we certainly shouldn’t expect a GOP landslide in a district that Obama won with 55% three years ago.

UPDATE 10:45 p.m. ET: You’ve got to admire the way they’re holding back precincts in Brooklyn. That may be either (a) Democrats up to shenanigans on behalf of Weprin or (b) Democrats following Dov Hikind’s orders on behalf of Turner. Remember what my source said, eh?

Our upstate New York friend The Lonely Conservative is tracking the results.

UPDATE 10:55 p.m. ETTea Party people . . . in New York City? Raaaaacism!

And with 121 precincts reporting, Turner leads 51% to 49%. If Turner pulls this one out, tomorrow’s White House press conference with Jay Carney ought to be an all-time classic.

UPDATE 11:05 p.m. ET: Ace of Spades has an NY-9 open thread. With 149 precincts reporting, it’s Turner 52%, Weprin 48% — a margin of barely 700 votes, of course. Very low turnout, and those Brooklyn precincts are suspiciously slow with their reports.

UPDATE 11:15 p.m. ET: With 191 precincts reporting, Turner leads 51%-48%.

UPDATE 11:30 p.m. ET: Democrats have got to be sweating now: Turner leads 51%-49% with 218 of 512 precincts reporting.

The margin is just 524 votes out of more than 28,000 cast, but still . . . this is New York City!

Linked by Donald Douglas at American Power — thanks!

UPDATE 11:40 p.m. ET: Do we dare hope? Can Turner hold on to this lead? With 271 precincts reporting, it’s Turner 53%, Weprin 46%.

UPDATE 11:45 p.m. ET: How will Democrats spin a loss in NY-9? They’ll probably blame it all on Dave Weprin’s toupeé credibility gap. And at this hour, Turner’s still leading by some 1,500 votes.



38 Responses to “NY-9: Turner Time?
UPDATE: ‘I See Dead Voters!’

  1. John P. Squibon
    September 14th, 2011 @ 2:23 am

    A spin coming from Glenn Thrush at Politico:  The seat will disappear due to census adjustment so it’s no big deal.

  2. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 2:32 am

    Yeah but the people voting today wont. Neither the economy nor zero’s policies toward Israel are going to get any better.

  3. Count de Money
    September 14th, 2011 @ 3:14 am

    More MSM/DNC spin and wrong for two reasons:

    1) According to the census, most of NY’s population loss was upstate while the population stayed flat in NYC. It follows then that the biggest changes will occur in upstate NY with NYC districts being more or less the same.

    2) Redistricting is the responsibility of the State Senate which is controlled by Republicans. If Turner wins, the Senate Republicans will create a district that he absolutely can’t lose unless he’s a total screw-up which he’s not.

  4. Count de Money
    September 14th, 2011 @ 3:51 am

    Turner up by 2,000!

    I am utterly astounded looking at the results so far. I expected this to be more or less close across the board. But looking at the results from Brooklyn, Weprin is getting clobbered.
    The 9th is the most Jewish district in the country and that would normally make it a safe Democrat seat. Looking at the Queens/Brooklyn results, I would say that what we’re seeing here is a Reform Jewish/Orthodox Jewish schism. Strange days indeed.

  5. Dianna Deeley
    September 14th, 2011 @ 3:54 am

    This is the most fascinating thing I’ve watched in politics in a while. I thought the polls were manipulated, so I’d anticipated a 50.5% Dem victory.

    Even if Turner loses, I’m betting it won’t be by much more than my anticipation. Wow! That’s really interesting!

  6. serfer62
    September 14th, 2011 @ 3:56 am


    There are still 157,000 uncounted votes just found in New Jersey which are all for the Kommiecrat!!!

  7. Aaron Cohn
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:00 am

    AP just called it for Turner.  If Dems have a brain they’ll be afraid…. But probably not.

  8. Dianna Deeley
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:01 am

    Car trunk(s), refrigerators, storage units, or shipping container?

  9. Aaron Cohn
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:04 am

    AP called it for Turner.  So did MSNBC.

  10. DanNY
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:06 am

    We Won!!!
    How’s them Apples, Schumer and Weiner?
    Tea Parties Rock!

  11. Dianna Deeley
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:07 am

    I saw that via Ace, and stopped to “dip”, or the ‘ette equivalent (since I do not believe anyone really, truly does the Ewok-claimed thing).

  12. ThePaganTemple
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:08 am

    Turner has also demanded that all ballots be impounded, because he’s expecting the Democrats to “find” some extra ballots. That’s good, when you’re dealing with Democrats anywhere it doesn’t pay to take chances, so that has to hold especially true for the ancestral home of Tammany Hall.

  13. JeffS
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:18 am

    Now Democrats will accuse Republicans of necrophobia.

    Better necrophobia than the Democrat’s necrophilia.

  14. For the first time in 88 years, New York District 9 (Anthony Weiner’s old Congress seat) goes to a Republican Bob Turner : Fire Andrea Mitchell!
    September 14th, 2011 @ 12:18 am

    […] Schumer, and even 1984 VP nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Now it’s held by Republican Bob Turner, thanks to the epic failure of Obama, and his anti Israel policies! This is a seat that Republicans don’t bother pouring money […]

  15. Aaron Cohn
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:31 am

    NY senate controls redistricting and it’s republican controlled.  They’ll carve turner out a nice new district he’d have to be a complete idiot to lose.  But he’s not a complete idiot.

    Why do you think the DNC threw $500K into the race? It wasn’t to save a single democrat’s rear for a year. There are probably 3 seats at stake.

  16. Dianna Deeley
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:48 am

    I love being wrong! Isn’t this great?!

  17. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 5:03 am

    Over there at ACE’s one neeever knows.

  18. The Wondering Jew
    September 14th, 2011 @ 5:06 am

    Good job, fellow Jews.  Maybe you are finally waking up. . .

  19. Ladd Ehlinger Jr.
    September 14th, 2011 @ 5:12 am

  20. Shawn Gillogly
    September 14th, 2011 @ 5:30 am

    And the money the Dims spent on saving this seat (nearly 1 million), will not be available later to spend on other elections.

    If they didn’t think it was a big deal, they wouldn’t have burned the cash.

  21. Anamika
    September 14th, 2011 @ 5:32 am

    It’s you who needs to wake up. Follow your fellow jews in 2012.

  22. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 5:46 am

    Doesn’t that steel superstructure overhead interfere with you WiFi signal?

  23. JeffS
    September 14th, 2011 @ 6:16 am

    Tsk tsk, Anamika, tsk tsk!

    Clearly, the people have spoken!  Who are you to deny a majority rule, especially after the fuss your fellow lefties made in 2000 and 2004…..and after your collective gloating in 2008.

    Tsk tsk, Anamika!  A selective memory always fails in the end.  Tsk tsk!

  24. Adjoran
    September 14th, 2011 @ 6:17 am

    Hmmm . . . you wake up the Jew and order him to get in line and follow . . .

    Vere haf ve seen dis before?

  25. Adjoran
    September 14th, 2011 @ 6:21 am

    The nicest thing about this win is that it not only was the aggressively obnoxious punk Weiner’s seat, before that it was the aggressively obnoxious punk Schumer.

    The results tonight cannot have been a huge surprise to Obama, but I hope he gets the message anyway (not holding my breath, though).

  26. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 6:24 am


  27. Truth Before Dishonor
    September 14th, 2011 @ 2:44 am

    New York 9th District Election Results…

    Expect multiple updates (if my weak internet connection holds). The Associated Press as of 10:01pm local time has released the very first set of results. With 4 precinct out of 512 reporting, Turner (R) leads Weprin (D) 55 percent to 44 percent. All 4 …

  28. Joseph Fein
    September 14th, 2011 @ 6:49 am

    My old neighborhood going to the (R)’s !

    If Forest Hills and Rego park can do it, so can the rest of the country! 

    A lesson to all Democratic haters of Israel: Don’t F*** with the Jews.  (And yes, you can listen to Liberal Hate of Israel everyday on Pacifica radio — No R voters there!)

  29. Datechguy's Blog » Blog Archive » A bad day for the Democratic Party, NY-9 NV-2 and Elizabeth Warren
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:53 am

    […] none of this would be possible without the Anthony Weiner […]

  30. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 12:08 pm
  31. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 12:36 pm

    Oh, they’ve already found at least 5 dead people, some of whom have been voting for a while. That’s what prompted the impound.

  32. ThePaganTemple
    September 14th, 2011 @ 1:47 pm

    Anamika, are you even capable of comprehending just how offensive that is? It’s about time you leftists realized exactly how bigoted and racists you are. I know it might hurt, but you all need to come to grips with this fact. Just because you express it in a passive-aggressive fashion doesn’t make it any less bigoted or racist.

  33. Robbyahm
    September 14th, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

    I was wondering if anyone realizes that the Republicans won back a heavily-democrat district after Republicans lost a heavily-republican district in May, I dont know about anybody else but that state is turning topsy-turvey all of the sudden, anyhow according to my calculation, Republicans in congress should be back to 242, the same number we started with at the beggining of this year.

  34. Robbyahm
    September 14th, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

    PS:  SOB’s 2 – Hoffa 0

  35. NY 9th District Goes Republican for Bob Turner | REPUBLICAN REDEFINED
    September 14th, 2011 @ 10:56 am

    […] as it typically does and has since 1923 in this district.In fairness, that could also be a sign of apathy.  Maybe Weprin was a lousy candidate.  I’ve followed this race from a distance and I […]

  36. Quartermaster
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:55 pm

    This is not Geller’s fault. It’s all BusHitler again. The Zombie presidency still lives.

  37. Breaking Obama Responds to Bob Turners’ Big Win in Democratic Stronghold
    September 14th, 2011 @ 2:12 pm

    […] Schumer, and even 1984 VP nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Now it’s held by Republican Bob Turner, thanks to the epic failure of Obama, and his anti Israel policies! This is a seat that Republicans don’t bother pouring money into […]

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