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Antisemitism Runs Amok At Occupy Wall Street Events

Posted on | October 17, 2011 | 39 Comments

Guest post by Duane Lester of All American Blogger

 

I have spent quite a bit of time trying to understand why a majority of Jewish Americans continue to support this President when his actions are so anti-Israel. I have tried to convince Jewish Americans that the left generally doesn’t have much use for them.

Still, they support President Obama and Democrats.

What will it take for the scales to fall from their eyes for them to understand the left is not their friend?

How about overt antisemitism? It’s part and parcel with the Occupy Wall Street movement and is found from coast to coast. Here’s a video from the Emergency Committee for Israel:

Here’s an interview Reason TV conducted at Occupy L.A.:

There is word that the Jewish vote may finally be turning away from the Democrats. The Wall Street Journal the election of Robert Turner in New York was “the first electoral outcome directly affected by President Obama’s Israel policy.”

A Public Policy Poll taken days before the election found a plurality of voters saying that Israel was “very important” in determining their votes. Among those voters, Republican candidate Robert Turner was winning by a 71-22 margin. Only 22% of Jewish voters approved of President Obama’s handling of Israel. Ed Koch, the Democrat and former New York mayor, endorsed Mr. Turner because he said he wanted to send a message to the president about his anti-Israel policies.

This is a preview of what President Obama might face in his re-election campaign with a demographic group that voted overwhelmingly for him in 2008.

In response, Obama took drastic measure. He unleashed Biden on them, which some might consider an act of aggression:

As Mr. Obama confronts his re-election challenge and the prospect of fracturing support among core constituencies, he is relying increasingly on Mr. Biden for help with one particular group: American Jews, who routinely tend to vote Democratic but whom the Republicans are, once again, making a run at.

Despite some warning signs, Democratic officials maintain that they do not think that Mr. Obama is in danger of losing the Jewish vote — particularly given the president’s muscular defense of Israel at the United Nations General Assembly…

It’s insulting for these “Democratic officials” to state they don’t believe the Jewish vote is going anywhere because Obama gave a speech defending Israel. In 2008, he said he’d bring an unshakeable commitment to Israeli security, then proceeded to tell them to retreat back to 1967 borders after elected.

Do they honestly believe that people forget so quickly, or are they spinning?  I’d bet Stacy’s tip jar on the latter.

There is no doubt that the left is unafraid of pulling back the curtain on their beliefs regarding Israel and Jews in general.   I doubt Republicans will garner a majority vote from Jewish Americans in 2012.  After all, in 2008, Obama took 77 percent of the Jewish vote. But if the left continues to be so overt in their antisemitism while Republicans like Herman Cain preach almost unconditional defense of Israel, I’m thinking Republicans will be able to count on Jewish voters in the near future.

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Susan-Ally/100000172241964 Susan Ally

    Leftist were overt in their anti-semitism all throughout the anti-war years( other great Fister protest) and this did not  persuade 77% American Jews to vote Republican.

    Fercryinout loud not even Samantha ‘America should invade Israel’ Powers -Special Assistant to President Barack Obama and runs the Office of Multilateral Affairs and Human Rights as Senior Director of Multilateral Affairs on the Staff of the National Security Council- was an overt warning that Obama would be bad news.

    Herman Cain’s strong defense of Israel won’t do much to persuade the 77% American Jewish voters to vote Republican-on the contrary, he will be vilified just as other stauch allies of Israel- George W Bush and Sarah Palin-were vilified.

    Perhaps the propagandized brainwashing is complete?  What else explains why 77% of American Jews would vote for overt anti-semitism.   Or explains why 50% of weekly Catholic goers would vote for overt pro-abortionism when they cast their vote for Barack Obama.

    I’d like to believe the scales have been removed from blinded eyes but I’ll believe it when it actually happens

  • Mo

    Jews did leave in droves to vote against the bigot Jimmy Carter, but have become even more leftist/liberalized since.  NY-9 is not a great harbinger of the Jewish vote, either, as many of the Jews in that district are Orthodox/traditional, and voted for the one who represented them best; ironically, it was the Roman Catholic Republican, versus the supposedly Orthodox Jewish Dem who was pro-gay marriage. 

    The majority of Jews are non-religious and sadly, most don’t care that much about their heritage, or about Israel.  Liberalism, as others have noted, is their “first” religion, and Judaism an accident of birth.  In older times, people like my grandparents, who were immigrants and LOVED this country for the freedoms it afforded them, and never took those freedoms or this country for granted, also were Jewish to their core, even if they were not nominally Orthodox.  That has changed for most Jewish families. 

    I hope one day things will change, that my fellow Jews will wake up to the dangers of the Left, but I’m not holding my breath on it!  On the other hand, my dad recognized the Leftward tilt of the Dems long before most did, and was one of the Jews who voted for Republicans.  He was prescient about what would happen.  Hopefully, as you wrote above, more Jews will come over to the conservative side, and it is slowly happening, at least among my acquaintances, which I realize is only anecdotal evidence, but the polls are supporting that some have realized that Obama is not only not a friend, but an enemy of Israel and the U.S.

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  • Richseanb

    Im sorry but you are dumb. That is one sign and one crazy lady.

  • Anonymous

    The crazy person is teaching someones kids or works for a system that is. Then there is the guy with the sign. There are numerous examples of antisemitism at these protest if you cared to look which I doubt.

  • Joe

    This is why it is a HUGE mistake to embrace this movement.  Yes most are just misguided youth, but it is drawing in all sorts of nasty flies.  Let Obama own OWS. 

    Yes Romney, Cain is right to denounce them.  You are wrong to appease. 

  • elaine

    Over at PJM, Roger Simon did a piece a while back about how Jews were slowly trending toward Republicans, noting that in the past twenty years, it’s been a pretty steady increase in the number of Jews supporting Republican candidates.  Granted, it’s been slow.  But it’s also been steady.

    23% voting for Republicans might not seem like a huge number, but it’s quite an improvement over the past, and it promises to continue to increase, particularly since Obama and the dems are showing their -isms all over the place.  (Racism, sexism, anti-semitism, etc.)

    Would it be significant if the number broke 30% in the next election?  Could OWS and its anti-semitism send even more Jews into the waiting arms of the GOP?

    Time will tell, but it looks good… 

    Now let’s talk about that 30% of blacks who already support Cain…

  • Anonymous

    Check your premises.

    First of all, “Jewish” does not necessarily mean “pro-Israel.”

    Secondly, the only way Obama could get more “pro-Israel” is if he personally went to the West Bank and castrated every last Arab male he came across. He makes Ronald Reagan look like Yasser Arafat.

  • Anamika

    Forgot all those ‘racist’ slogans in the (especially) early Tea Party events?–far more and frequent than the anti-jewish elements in the OWS protests. (And how you guys defended them as just a few bad apples or whatever.)

    Doesn’t surprise me at all.

  • Joe

    Explain how Obama is more pro Israel than George Bush.  I am sorry, but I do not see it. 

  • Joe

    I also recognize that OWS is more obsessed with “bankers.”  Being Jewish (I am sure)  is just a coincidence. 

  • Anonymous

    Joe,

    All Bush had to do was make the agreement with Israel for $3o billion in new US-taxpayer-to-Israeli-mooch welfare over 10 years.

    Obama’s the one who’s had to keep those welfare checks coming.

    And he has. His 2012 budget request includes yet another ($75 million) increase in welfare to Israel, bringing the direct tab to $3.075 billion.

    Rhetorically, he’s toed the George W Bush / Bill Clinton / George HW Bush / Ronald Reagan line of calling for an end to the “settlements,” a return to 1967 borders, etc.

    But on the ground, he’s actually gone Israel’s way on every one of those topics, every time, when his Republican predecessors occasionally at least made a show of putting up a fight.

  • Anamika

    I also recognize that Tea Party is more obsessed with “Obama.”  Being black (I am sure)  is just a coincidence.

  • Anonymous

    Are you arguing for an end to ALL foreign aid (a la Ron Paul) as well as an end to ALL arms sales to foreign countries? If not, on what basis would you object to aid and/or arms sales to Israel versus other countries?

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a cluebat for you: the phrase “Jewish bankers,” which has a long history, is still being uttered – right now, as I write this – by fringe anti-semitic radicals who populate the margins of the OWS crowds.

    In contrast, have you heard a Tea Party member, or anyone else for that matter, warn about a worldwide conspiracy of “black presidents”? 

    Some historians believe that the U.S. had five other partly black or Native American presidents prior to Obama – Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abe Lincoln, Warren Harding, and Calvin Coolidge. Heck, the Tea Party folks for those most part celebrate those five presidencies. They are more concered about the conspiracies begun by the pasty white guys, like TDR, Wilson, FDR, LBJ . . .

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I don’t believe he has 30% yet. If he gets the nomination I’d be damn well surprised if he gets 20%, and damn well pleased if he gets that much. When push comes to shove blacks just aren’t going to vote against the Democrats in any significant numbers. Before Obama, the GOP typically drew about ten percent of the black vote, give or take a percentage point or two in any given election.

    If Cain draws twenty percent or more, it won’t have anything to do with the actual number of voters so much as a the fact that a sizable percentage of Democrat black voters will just stay home on election day.

    Under that scenario, the percentage of Cain’s vote increases just due to his voters getting to the polls.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    Right, Anamika, and I hated Ted Kennedy to such an extent because I loathe the Irish. Oh wait a minute, I’m Irish. I was happy when the bastard died, and if Obama died I would be deliriously happy. If that makes me racist, so fucking be it. What your type don’t ever seem to get is, we don’t give a fuck what your kind think about our alleged racism.

  • Anonymous

    PGlenn,

    I wasn’t arguing for or against anything — I was merely pointing out that according to the standard criteria for being “pro-Israel” — said criteria coming down to whether or not one descends to one’s knees, puckers up and kisses the ass of whomever happens to be in charge in  Tel Aviv at any given moment with sufficient alacrity and regularity — Obama’s at least as “pro-Israel” as any president since Truman, and more “pro-Israel” than most.

    That said, if I still believed that the Westphalian nation-state could be made to work at all, I would argue for an end to ALL foreign aid, and to an end to all state-subsidized arms sales (with arms manufacturers of course free to sell arms to, and in, any nation-state upon which the US Congress has not declared war).

  • Anonymous

    Liar. There very few raaaaacist slogans/signs at Tea Party events and many of those were from agents provacateurs.

    In contrast, you and I both know that there is a small, but significant segment of the non-Jewish radical left that has become so virulently anti-Israel as to veer into anti-semitic territory (I’m assuming that you’re at least casually familar with the diverse elements within the American/Euro radical left, which might be giving you too much credit).

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  • Anonymous

    So, basically you’re a Rockwellian, right?

    If so, a Rockwellian would be apt to perceive ALL recent U.S. presidents, even including Obama, as slightly different flavors of Zionists and/or neocolonialists.   

    Just to illustrate my point (and not to draw any moral equivalencies): the old Soviet communists used to believe that Western Euro Social Democrats were just as much capitalist pigs as the self-described free market capitalists. 

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m not a “Rockwellian” (I assume that you’re referring to Lew Rockwell, not George Lincoln Rockwell, with whose ideas I am also most manifestly non-affiliated).

    I don’t particularly dislike Rockwell and the Mises folks, and can get along with them on some things, but certainly not everything, and I doubt they’d claim me.

    For one thing, I’m at least nominally a Zionist myself .

    For another, I’m not much of a Ron Paul fan.

    You still seem to be missing the point, so I’ll put it more bluntly: My point has nothing to do with whether being “pro-” or “anti-” Israel is good or bad. My point is that anyone who claims that Obama is noticeably less “pro-Israel” than any recent American president needs to put down the fucking crack pipe.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    If they weren’t from agent provocateurs they were probably Ron Paul’s Klan supporters, which may be a difference without a distinction. I’m still waiting for this secret video that will probe anybody in the Tea Party spat on the CBC clowns led by noted civil rights “hero” John Lewis, and called them all niggers. So far, any such evidence seems to have strangely disappeared. Of course, our demands for proof, even the fact we have the temerity to question the honesty and integrity of such a figure as Lewis and crew of leftist fucksticks is further proof we are racists. We should just bow down and admit we’re a bunch of no-good rednecks who need to be re-educated until we are properly indoctrinated. After all, leftist hate equals justified anger, but right-wing anger equals intolerance born of ignorance and resentment. That’s how that game is played.

  • http://2011.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

    The people attending these #Occupy infestations would believe my name is Jewish.

  • http://2011.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

    Links, or admit what we all know: that you’re a damn liar

  • http://twitter.com/richard_mcenroe richard mcenroe

    No, but anti-Israel usually means anti-Jew if you talk to them long enough.  The #OWS freaks aren’t talking about Palestine. they’re talking about Jews controlling banks and Wall Street… and the Democrats are encouraging them.

  • http://twitter.com/richard_mcenroe richard mcenroe

    Yeah, I remember when George Bush demanded Israel return to its pre-67 borders and blocked arms sales.  You’re not even trying to discuss this honestly anymore; why are you here?

  • Anonymous

    “Yeah, I remember when George Bush demanded Israel return to its pre-67 borders”

    If you don’t, let me refresh your memory:


    As far as arms sales go, if the US government is going to be involved in approving such sales at all (personally I think the market should be the decider), it only makes sense to cut off countries that agree not to pass sensitive technology on to China, and then turn right around and do so.

  • DaveO

    Does anyone have any numbers on whether or not Americans who self-identify as Jewish are supporting OWS? Is J-Street involved?

  • Anonymous

    knappster: then I need to put down the crack pipe because I don’t believe that Obama is pro-Israel by a long shot. I’m no expert on the intracacies of diplomatic language, etc.; however, Obama’s statements on using the ’67 borders as a starting point of negotiations was most definitely a shift, one that was hostile to Israeli interests. The Israeli government certainly perceived it to be a new American position – are you suggesting that the Israeli’s were pretending, for strategic reasons, to be concerned about it?  

    Perhaps my crack habit is also complicating my efforts to figure you out, because I’ve been unable to do so. Usually people who talk about the end of the Westphalian nation state are favorable inclined to that possibility – I assume you’re not, but are merely being a realist about the future? Also, how would you characterize American foreign policy over the last 50 years?  

  • http://twitter.com/opinador Opinador Compulsivo

    The American Nazi Party enthusiastically supports OWS lefties, because  they found common ground on, you guessed it, jew hatred :
    http://articulos-interesantes.blogspot.com/2011/10/seguro-que-ana-baron-va-escribir-una.html

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    Sorry, Rich, but the History of The Left is replete with incidents of Anti-Semitism.  These current protesters are merely following a tradition dating back to the creation of Leftism in the 18th Century.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    But I do hate The Goddamn Irish!

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    Maybe I should go and see how they treat me: I’m of half-Italian descent so I have the Guinea features, but I have very light skin [from Mother’s German, Scots-Irish, and English ancestry], and I have a beard, and I’ve been called ‘Rabbi’ before when I wear my black fedora and black overcoat.  Oy!  What would they say to me?

  • Anonymous

    PGlenn,

    “Obama’s statements on using the ’67 borders as a starting point of negotiations was most definitely a shift, one that was hostile to Israeli interests.”

    What kind of shift do you think it  was? Every US president since Reagan has used EXACTLY the same language.

    “are you suggesting that the Israeli’s were pretending, for strategic reasons, to be concerned about it? ”

    I assume it’s for strategic reasons, but I guess they could just be drama queens.

    I’m not sure why you think you need to “figure me out.” My claims of fact stand on their own merit. But yes, the destruction of the Westphalian nation-state is my ultimate goal. I’d characterize US foreign policy of the last 50 years as a smashing success, if the goal is the transfer of massive amounts of money from your pocket to Lockheed-Martin’s.

  • Anonymous

    knappster, in saying that I couldn’t figure you out, I meant that I didn’t know where you’re coming from.

    Your “school of thought” is not important when it comes to evaluating facts, but it is useful in analyzing your interpretive approach. Whether Obama’s statements on the ’67 borders was a shift in policy is a question of INTERPRETATION, not a question of FACT. I disagree with your interpretation of Obama’s attitude toward Israel, which btw you’ve supported with no facts, only assertions.

    Of course, I’ve presented no facts of my own in support of my interpretation, and now I’m too strung out on crack to go find any.  

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  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I was always under the impression that Jews were supposed to avoid contact with unclean people and things. That OWS bunch would qualify as unclean if anything does, and on a bunch of different levels at that.

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