Ok. I am conservative, agnostic, lesbian. My partner and I have raised a wonderful 17 yr old heterosexual girl that thinks: abortion is wrong – but should be legal – that marriage is important – and her parents define the very characteristics of love, sacrifice and devotion.

99% of gays were raised by straights and 99% of gays raise straight children. The vast majority of those children are adopted from women or families that can’t keep or don’t want them.  I doubt, with almost 100% certainty, that more than 5 or 6 MORON homosexuals want any more gays than are produced naturally – 2-4% of the population. I am sure the percentage has changed from year to year, but as ‘gays’ have been around for, oh….3000 years at least, it is a NORMAL variation of the species.

My partner was devout Episcopalian (don’t laugh, they can be devout) and WE raised our daughter in the Church with weekly attendance and Sunday School. Our daughter is church oriented but notices more the inconsistencies she sees with regard beliefs and actions. I honored and respected my partner’s faith and attended services, was respectful towards the church members and their faiths and supportive of the teachings with our daughter.

When my partner passed in October, the Mormons in the neighborhood came by and sat with our daughter and her very conservative high school community raised money for the final expenses.

The left is the left. It has nothing to do with the rights or group dynamics, it has everything to do with power. There are no ‘gay rights movement’ or ‘woman’s rights movement’ or ‘* rights movement’, they are all liberal power movements.  Women, gays and minorities would all benefit from at least part of the population that doesn’t lump them into the left’s caricature of them. So all you ‘red-necked Bible thumpers’ can just calm the hell down.

God created the Earth is a matter of faith, certainly not ascertainable fact, and as to the rules…really? You want to adhere to rules laid down by barbarians 3000 yrs ago?  Peoples that slaughtered entire towns down to the infants – not abortion mind you, but toddlers and nursing children.

While you may consider homosexuality a mental illness, the medical profession does not – and generally speaking, I’ll take science over Scripture on matters of fact every time. 

As to who is a Christian or not, I’d think it behooves you to let your God make that determination. (BTW, unless I am mistaken, I don’t recall Scripture calling out lesbianism…but I could be wrong.)

You want to adhere to rules laid down by barbarians 3000 yrs ago?  
No, I don’t in general, and no, I don’t in particular.

 And what would you think if your daughter didn’t pass your liberal litmus test?

 I don’t like pole smokers, but I will defend to the death your right to be a pole smoker. Oh wait a minute, you’re not a pole smoker, you’re a lesbian, so never mind.

 They had reasons for slaughtering all those people. For one thing, they were ate up with syphilis and they didn’t want that shit spreading.

 I love my daughter regardless of her beliefs, her faith, or her ideology. And to be specific, I identify as a classical liberal type of conservative, ie the individual is sovereign.

 A rare breed, to be sure.  Hopefully not on the road to extinction.  We need more of you. 

 Of course they had reasons for genocide, they were rational barbarians slaughtering 100% of a population for a disease they couldn’t diagnose even if they understood it on the off chance that ‘it was catchy’ though vectors were certainly unknown even conceptually.

Not to dispute the historical perspective of the origin for monogamous marriage or to note the historical application has been less than uniform or beneficial during large swaths of time, but no one is suggesting that gay marriage replace straight marriage, or even that it could even if the Left got it’s mitts (!) on the legal application of their particular brand of stupidity.  For 96-98% of the population, heterosexual marriage is ‘normal, reasonable, historical and beneficial’. I personally believe every characteristic that you would use to describe a good marriage is applicable to my partnership – but that might be too much for this discussion. 

 Didn’t say anything about granting you my leave to live your life, just that I would defend your right  to do so.

PT,
You have a tree in your backyard that is more than 4500 years old?  Because thats about the time of the Global Flood, and while its possible that some plants survived, its not very plausible.

I’d expect your tree to be a bit younger than you’re thinking.  But hey, even 4000 years is pretty kewl.

Try Romans 1:26 my dear friend. And, a person that lives in open sin is not a christian. Such things have already been determined. By God no less.

As for creation being a something that has not been determined, you don’t keep up much with science. Evolutionists, as just one example, twist themselves into pretzels trying to prove what they claim, but so far have failed. Philosophical meandering rarely does well flying in the face of the evidence.

Given the type of society that existed under the Mosaic lawversus the babraric society we have now, I’d take the Moscic law. But, that’s a false choice which people of your persuasion use to divert attention from your nonsense on stilts.

Psychology, before she whored her little self out to PC idiocy, held that homsexuality is a mental illness. they disguise it now as “gender identification syndrome” but it’s still a mental illness. Medical people normally agreed with the shrinks because that was their area and not a matter of medical judgment. However, most people realize just how disordered the liofestyle is simply by instinct.

I won’t give it to him because he and his ‘husband’ are raising the child.  The yin and yang of the male and female parental unit is the best thing for all children.  Their child is being deprived of one of the essential ingredients to the formation of a civilized adult.

I’m a little too serious by nature, or gullible.

“because of this (idol worshiping) God GAVE THEM OVER to shameful lusts.” NIV

Seems God gave over the children for their parents idol worshiping. But, that is accepting the premise that Scripture IS in fact, the words of God, when it is only a book written by men, that people believe in.  If you believe and have faith, then great. Belief and faith are not fact.

And, given your attitude, calling an entire medical profession whores doesn’t surprise me.

As for Evolutionists…well, you said enough to make any point I could make but I will say that knowledge is increasing as we learn more about our universe and ourselves and IF the time comes when science fact supports the hypothesis that genetics and hormones contribute to sexual identity behaviors, I am absolutely sure, you will still have your faith and beliefs to guide you.

We have free will, consider it God’s gift if you please, and that free will gives us the ability to choose to live not by instinct but by choice, choice to honor and care for our weak, infirm, aged and disabled, choice to replace failing organs or building devices to replace them, choice to live in space. Feel free to live naturally, it is your choice.

 The yin and yang of the male and female parental unit is the best thing for all children.

Have you actually seen Elton John and his “husband”? Something’s missing there all right, the only thing is I’m just not sure whether its the Yin or the Yang.