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Rick Santorum in Cavuto Interview: ‘This Is the Hatchet-Job of All Time’ (Video Added)

Posted on | March 23, 2012 | 114 Comments

BATON ROUGE, Louisiana
Rick Santorum says it is “absurd” for anyone to suggest he would not support the Republican Party’s nominee against President Obama.

“This is the hatchet-job of all time,” the former Pennsylvania senator told Neil Cavuto during an often-contentious Friday afternoon interview on Fox News about Santorum’s comments at a Thursday event in Texas. “I’ve said repeatedly the number-one priority is beating Barack Obama. I’d support anybody. They said, ‘Would you support Ron Paul?’ Of course, I’d support anybody on the Republican ticket and I’ve said it throughout the course of this campaign.”

Santorum blasted the controversy over his remarks during an appearance Thursday in San Antonio as “a made-up story.” During that Texas speech, Santorum reiterated his argument for offering a conservative alternative to Obama by saying that if Republicans nominate Mitt Romney, “we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future.” (Click here to see full quote and video of Santorum’s San Antonio comments.)

In his Friday interview with Cavuto, Santorum clarified that remark, saying said he has been “traveling around this country saying that the highest priority is to defeat Barack Obama, and what I was saying there is that, if we don’t have a choice, then the American public, y’know, may decide to keep Barack Obama. That’s all I said. I’ve said it in every speech.”

The latest polls show Santorum with a double-digit lead among Louisiana Republicans on the eve of Saturday’s primary here.

I will have more quotes from Santorum’s interview with Cavuto, and will add reaction to his interview and video as they become available.

UPDATE: Alex Alvarez at the liberal Mediaite blog headlines this, “Neil Cavuto Hammers Rick Santorum Over Obama/Romney Comparison,” and calls the interview “a shouting match.” Cavuto was (a) at the very least playing devil’s advocate or (b) possibly even pushing Romney talking points. But I repeat myself.

Anyway, here’s the video:

UPDATE II: Fox News calls this a “fiery interview” and, indeed, Cavuto’s viewers saw the fiery side of Rick Santorum. Clearly, he has gotten sick and tired of what’s been happening the past few weeks: Reporters playing journalistic “gotcha” games, knowing that if they can be the first to find two “controversial” sentences in an hour-long Santorum speech and turn it into a catchy headline, they’re guaranteed a Drudge link.

Let those of you who are not Santorum fans ask yourself this important question: What if you were in Rick Santorum’s shoes?

What if you had spent all those months criss-crossing Iowa in a pickup truck, speaking to small groups of Republican voters. Sometimes less than a half-dozen would show up, but Rick would give them the full treatment, as if they were the most powerful and influential Republicans in Iowa — and, as it turned out, they were: When push came to shove, after the Perry bandwagon ran into the ditch, after the Cain Train ran off the rails, after Newt imploded, all those voters Santorum had been shaking hands with said to themselves, “You know something? We ought to vote for Rick. He’s earned it.”

And he earned it when nobody believed he could do it, when all he had was determination in the face of relentless discouragement.

Santorum didn’t have big money. He didn’t have praise from big-name pundits. He didn’t have the GOP Establishment on his side, and the major media gave him quite nearly zero coverage. But he kept plugging away — “Steady Eddie,” as he said — until he finally broke through.

So he did all that, campaigning for nearly a year, and now that he’s the leading rival to Mr. Inevitable, what kind of coverage does he get? “Gotcha”!

And too many conservatives, who should be defending Santorum against these attacks, are instead playing along with the media “gotcha” game, ready to throw Santorum under the Romney bus.

Let me tell you something: I remember when Charles Johnson tried to throw Pamela Geller under the wheels of his Little Green Bus, and I stood up and said not just no, but hell, no.

Maybe Rick Santorum’s not your favorite candidate. Maybe Pamela Geller’s not your favorite blogger. Maybe Rush Limbaugh’s not your favorite talk-radio host, but conservatives can’t let liberals tell us who our friends are.

Don’t let liberals tell you what to think. Don’t play along with the “gotcha” game. Don’t help them defame people’s reputations.

By God, REMEMBER BREITBART!

Update III (Smitty): thank you, Instapundit! I think Stacy may be in need of encouragement down in the Big Easy.

Update IV (Smitty): linked by CrackMC in a long meditation with quite a few interesting images and thoughts. Have to re-read that one.

Comments

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WWFTUCBOPWNF5NAZKRWWH22BDA Blackwater

    Yeah except Santorum is the one who said we’d be better off keeping Obama. No one else said that, Santorum did.

    Face it, Romney sucks, but Santorum is a moron.  He continually says stupid things, and has to walk them back.

    There’s a reason why democrats have been organizing and crossing over to vote for this nimrod. Obama would win all 57 states against this guy! 

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    You’re continuing to mis-interpret the point Rick was making. Arguably, he could have broken it down better, but willful distortion is un-cool. #PartyFoul

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/ Evi L. Bloggerlady

    I do not have a problem with Rick Santorum being “firey” in responding to Romney or Gingrich.  That is fine.  I have a problem in Rick Satorum not acknowledging he was less than clear and hence how people misunderstood his intent.  The comment the other day did sound like he would prefer Obama over Romney…although it was a bit garbled. 

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    You’be bought into the Leftist / GOP Establishment Narrative – which Andrew warned us against.

  • CPAguy

    I concur. All hype. We saw this play out with Cain.

    The Mittens people and liberals are scared of Santorum (who I am not a big fan of, but he is better than Romney). They will use any and every thing to destroy him.

  • QuoVadisAnima

    Actually, I just came here from Glenn Beck’s page where Santorum said exactly that – “I could have been more articulate”. 

    Not that I think it will matter much as I’m sure those who are eagerly jumping on this manufactured story as a bludgeon are still going to find SOMETHING here to fault Santorum for, regardless…

  • George Leroy Tirebiter

    Santorum makes a lot of garbled statements. If the republicans nominate him it will be an absolute trainwreck.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/V54MMT2YDO46ECXGFICCMUCGBU Ford Prefect

    Sorry, but this statement is nonsense.  Romney makes 10x the garbled statements that Santorum does.  So what’s the difference?  The media are afraid of Santorum.

    I could take two phrases out of anything you say George and could later argue they prove you’re an axe murderer.  Does that make you a train wreck? 

  • Srsrules

    Really George Romney is the Gaff machine and he has surronded himself with bBush and McCain crowneys.  The Media will cover for Mittens till he has the nomination and them the real we will see who the real train wreck is.  I am a Santorum guy and have been wthcing him for years and he is clearly the best candidate.  You have bought into the left pture painting.  Tey will do back flips to make Santorum look as foolish as they can. 

  • Cheryl55

    This was NO misunderstanding! READ what he said…he NOT only said it, he followed up with WHY he said it. This guy LIES out of every side of his mouth and FINALLY people are printing his LIES…they do tend to cause a stir in print.  The guy is a pathetic mess!

  • Srsrules

    So you read the printed lies and now your doing the bidding of the left.  You must be a Proud Romney supporter.  You learned well from Mittens . Afterall he has spent 50 million on slinging Mud

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/ Evi L. Bloggerlady

    I will link you (again).  I think I have linked TOM like a lot.  Not as much as the national debt, but a lot. 

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    EBL: You won’t get credit for the links in the weekly FMJRA unless you mail to Wombat a list of this past week’s links that you made.  As Wombat has explained: Blogger does not pingback, so he can’t see any links coming from Blogger sites when he runs the program that compiles the FMJRA.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    The deadline for e-mailing is Midnight tonight.  His address: wombat.socho@gmail.com

  • Evilbloggerlady

    You are a good egg Bob. BTW I am not buying the left narrative. But when Rick Santorum confuses even Michelle Malkin…then the messenger mangled the message.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    EBL: I have the highest respect for Mrs. Malkin, but, as she would admit, she’s not perfect.

    As for me being a ‘good egg’: thanks, but I must warn you I’m a slightly cracked one.

  • gloogle gloogle

     No.  Rick made his “point” and it blew up in his face.  He has no one to blame but HIMSELF for saying something SO STUPID, regardless if he “could have articulated it better” or not.

    Politics ain’t beanball.  Get your sh_t straight, Rick, or go home…

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/V54MMT2YDO46ECXGFICCMUCGBU Ford Prefect

    Comments from liberal talking points fall on deaf ears. Bye.

  • gloogle gloogle

     “liberal talking points” my ass. 

    i’m voting for Santorum if he wins the nomination.  But what he said was DUMB…

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    but…you’re really here to make the case for Romney…gotcha

    By the way folks: really digging the emphasis with the all caps; really gives weight to your arguements; the semi-breatheless tone is a  nice touch too.

  • gloogle gloogle

     Pathfinder’s wife:  your ability to read minds is… overstated.  As are your rhetorical skills.  But hey, it’s a lot easier to make fun of someone you disagree with, than to counter their points.

  • Cheryl55

    Who are you kidding??? The words came right out of this MORONS mouth!! And he would have let it stand too, if there had not been such a backlash to it! How many times is he going to LIE about what he says? He says he would BAN birth control ….then he says well, I wouldnt’have said that…but the words came right out of his mouth. The guy is just plain pathetic…he and Romney both are so busy pandering that they forget PEOPLE do sometimes LISTEN, and RECORD!!!

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/ Evi L. Bloggerlady

    When Michelle Malkin and Glenn Reynolds “misunderstand” what Rick said (and I saw the video too and misunderstood it) then the fault is with Rick Santorum.  He should not point blame that Team Romney and Drudge ran with it, he should instead by saying it is absolutely wrong and sorry for the misstatement on his part. 

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    And Mrs. Malkin and Instapundit are never wrong?

    MM is in this case.  She’s not perfect [and has never claimed to be].

    Insty is just showing his true colors as an ideological Libertarian [ie: someone who despises religion].

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2229169 Michael Balkin

    He went ballistic. Sad day for Santo. 

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/ Evi L. Bloggerlady

    Rick Santorum lost his composure.  That is bad.  He should be looking to regain it and not being whiney about it. 

  • http://twitter.com/fifthinstructor CindyLou

    Santorum is the only one who makes sense in the race.  He speaks the truth….  Ronald Reagan spoke boldly…why are we so afraid now to be BOLD?

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    Shhhh! (You’ll scare the sleeping Moderates.)

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     What about those of us with enough common sense and realistic sense of perspective to understand this thing is over? Reckon she’ll scare us too?

  • Quartermaster

    Only if you get your head out of your fourth point of contact.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Okay now let’s think about this for a minute. I recognize the reality that this thing is to all practical purposes over and decided. So that means I’ve got my head up my ass? Do you think maybe you should think about that for just a couple of minutes? You know, just in case you might be led to accidentally come to a different conclusion?

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    reality that this thing is to all practical purposes over and decided

    Then why the full court press from the Mitt-hedz on this, hm?

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Smitty-

    Could it possibly be that the “Mitt-hedz” are defending their candidate just like Santorum’s supporters defend him when he is attacked?

  • Quartermaster

    Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

    Yes, sometimes I am weak in such situations. :-)

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     @98746a1a064f1c4277481aba76601300:disqus
    No harm done. I myself find it hard to resist the opportunity to lodge a good one-liner.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    Don’t worry, Admiral, they all have their heads firmly planted in the sand.

  • Nopefull

     I knew Ronald Reagan. Rick is no Ronald Reagan. Maybe Ross Perot.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    Rick is far more Nicholas Cage than Ross Perot.

  • http://www.leftbankofthecharles.com/ Charles

    I still say the Louisiana loss will be the best advertising Mitt can’t buy for the states yet to vote on the eastern and western seaboards. The Looking Spoon has the best Etch A Sketch.

    http://www.thelookingspoon.com/index.php/3279-the-only-etch-a-sketch-america-needs-to-worry-about

  • mytimetospeak

    These candidates, all, are extremely fatigued. Is it any wonder there would be times when what they meant comes out wrong? Who among us hasn’t done the same at some point in our lives and not under the kind of pressure these guys are under? I say give Santorum a break. Also Romney who made reference to who are some of his wealthy friends. The media lurks in hopes they can pounce on a gotcha situation. We as the voters can make this stop by not letting these ridiculous stories be relevant. Don’t buy into these kind of political shenanigans. Ignore these things and move on to the real issues.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    I’m going to come out in disagreement with Rick on this one.
    I think it was only the best hatchet job in the Biden-Klein 500-100 years BHO (Before His Obamaness) Constitutional Antiquity period.
    Rick, I feel, is overselling the size and heft of the hatchet in question.

  • Brad Swarm

    Can you imagine if Obama came off this unhinged in an interview?  We’d be popping the Champagne.

    Santorum simply does not have the temperament to be President.  Do you really think 51% of Americans are going to make this guy leader of the Free World?   This is how he handles some bad press? 

    As much as we conservatives would love to believe all that matters is a checklist of issues, the person running is usually what wins or loses elections.

    Santorum comes off like a crazy person, for him to be this emotional and angry at this stage makes no sense.  He should be looking for a graceful way to exit, not throwing wild haymakers over a lost news cycle.

  • Tennwriter

    Brad,
    You need a guy who fights.  Like Lincoln said…send a case of whatever whiskey he drinks to my other generals.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJGP4QXZ5PRW2MFA5E25CV2WNU rosalie

    Anytime O was actually asked difficult questions, he got a little uppity and testy.  Can you imagine how bad he’d be if he were put through the third degree as Santorum was?

  • Garym

    I’ve been in my truck and listening to talk radio all day. Fox news has been pimping this non controversy all day trying to help Mr. Romneycare. I would be angry with them as well, if I were Santorum. 

  • daialanye

    I know how everyone feels with regard to Rick being too hot-tempered. I felt the same way when Reagan lost control at the New Hampshire debate as the moderator tried to squelch him. “I paid for this microphone,” he screamed.
     
    I told everyone who would listen, we can’t pick a guy like this! Next thing you know he’ll be trying to tear down the Berlin wall.
     
    And I was right, you fools. Better far to nominate a robotic moderate if any such are in this race.

  • Nopefull

    Comparing Ricky with Reagan is ridiculous. The reason a moderate like Romney will get the nomination is that there is no conservative that inspires like Reagan did. Besides, Icky Ricky still cannot justify his support for Arlen Specter when Pat Toomey is the real conservative.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    Inspiration will come from the VP level, when they nominate Marco Rubio.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJGP4QXZ5PRW2MFA5E25CV2WNU rosalie

    Romney is not a moderate.  He’s a liberal.  And Pat Toomey’s endorsing him, which isn’t surprising.  So Toomey is endorsing a liberal that he’s hoping will suddenly become a conservative. 

  • Nopefull

    Liberals are not capitalists. Romney is a practicing, wildly successful capitalist and former CEO. Like Obama, what has Ricky run other than his mouth. Not sure just what Icky Ricky is other than a holier than thou hot head. Toomey understands we need successful capitalists, not ideologues, running our country.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     I have to take exception to that. Warren Buffet is a capitalist, would you call him a liberal or conservative? What about Jon Corzine?

  • Nopefull

    There can be crooks that consider themselves as capitalists; both benefit from cronyism; Buffet is a trader who uses his political insider information to enrich his holdings; In addition to an insider trader, Corzine is a crook. A rational person would call them crony capitalists.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I’ve got a mission for Rick, something that might inspire people and help him regain his footing.

    Easter Is Coming-Hey I Know, Let’s Have A Used Rubber Hunt

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    You seem to have a real burr about the whole birth control/abortion thing.
    Why is that?  

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Frankly I just think its ignorant to make a political issue out of birth control, over and above objection to government subsidy of it. I especially find it objectionable to question the motives and the religiosity of those who practice it.

    Abortion I want thrown back to the decision of the states. Some people though will never be satisfied with repeal of Roe. They won’t be satisfied until abortion of any kind and for any reason is outlawed at the national level. And that’s where we part company.

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    He didn’t so much make birth control (other than not making people pay for others’) a political issue as he did say he would speak his own personal feelings on the matter.
    Big difference — and honestly, it’s one that does tie into our fiscal problems because…you can’t have fiscal conservatism without social conservatism.  You can’t have a free society if people are willing to give away liberty for free stuff (which a lot of power brokers on the left and the right are more than happy to oblige).

    As for abortion: yes, it should go back to the states, but, if you happen to be like me and live in a state where a lot of residents are saddled with abortion laws gone wild, then there needs to be something in place whereby political machines (and the zombie voters in large urban areas that vote them in) don’t run roughshod over the will of the people in the majority of the state.
    Unfortunately, that’s what we’ve got — and simple, though well meaning, federalism is not going to fix that. It’s a recipe for a nightmare for those of us living out here in the back of beyond.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Sorry, that doesn’t wash. If Roe is repealed by the SCOTUS then it no longer is a federal issue. The matter will then be decided by the will of the voters in the states or by their legislatures. If you don’t like their decision, vote them out and try again.

    The judiciary won’t be able to interfere, because there would be no federal grounds to do so. I’m not saying its a perfect solution, but its the best you’re going to get. In most states, you can even decide the matter through the aegis of your state constitution. There will be some states that will probably maintain abortion rights and some that will outlaw them outright. Most will probably limit abortion to special circumstances, or to the first trimester.

    Where Rick screwed up was in slamming people who exercise birth control of their own initiative. He didn’t necessarily limit his remarks to those who use government subsidies, he insulted everybody who practiced birth control, most especially Protestant Christians. Granted, this was before he ran for President, but its out there and he’s stuck with it.

    Of course he could pull a Romney and say he’s changed his mind, but somehow I think that will go over about as good as his statement about “taking one for the team”.

    But all of this is beside the fact. This is going to be Romney’s year. I’m not happy about that, but I’m resigned to that reality. And part of the reason he’s got it in the bag as of now is Santorum flushed Ohio down the toilet with his intemperate remarks.

    If he pulls it out, of course I will gladly vote for him. But I don’t see it happening.

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    Ok, as somebody living in the LoL I’ll clue you in: there is no way in some states (like CA or IL, but the number is growing) where the rural, and largely conservative population, can out vote the urban centers, which are usually very leftist and growing moreso by the day.  That in turn gives you a state legislature that is usually highly corrupt, and nothing proposed by the rural areas manages to make it out of chambers.  IL and CA (and NY) are good case studies in what happens to both individual liberties, living conditions, and the structures of both parties as the larger urban areas grow in wealth and influence, and realize that they really can get anything they want.

    As for being resigned to Romney: yeah, to a degree I am as well (although there’s always the offhand chance…), but there is no way that I’m going to become a full throated supporter of his.  It’s bad enough that I’ll likely be put into the position of voting for him (and it will be an excercise in futility as well, because if he doesn’t catch a clue: physically abused hybrid equine for hire time).

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Pathfinder’s wife-

    How about getting rid of Obama? Could you be a full-throated supporter of that?

    And like I said, some states will not outlaw abortion. That’s only to be expected in states like California and some others. You could probably go down the line and pick them out.

    But at least overturning Roe and turning it back to the states will afford the opportunity for those states who don’t want it to not have it crammed down their throat by the federal government or leftist judges.

    And frankly, that’s as good as its going to get. A national constitutional amendment, whether pro or con abortion, will never pass. It will either be seen as extreme by not just the opposing side but by the majority of voters (especially independents), or so watered down with exceptions that hard core supporters of either side will fight it.

    The only constitutional amendment I could support would entail exactly what I’m suggesting, that its a state’s rights issue. That’s the only sure way to settle the damn thing once and for all as far as its influence over the public arena. That way the states can decide whatever they want in their own state constitutions and in the meantime let their own extremists fight it out.

    Frankly both sides piss me off, so my vote is likely to be determined by which one gets on my bad side the worst way at the right time.

  • CPAguy

    I do believe that Mittens would less to far worse consequences than Obama (since it would take 8 to 16 years to field a conservative President).

    But this is hatchet jobbery that is evidently par for this election course.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    Totally disagree. The people are plugged in, will stay plugged in, and ensure that we have some right rudder on the ship of state, even if it’s less than we’d like.

  • CPAguy

     You have great faith.

    I will certainly do my part, hopefully the Conservative movement does not run out of steam….even if we are stuck with President Mittens or another term of Obama.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    I do have faith. Not in any of these candidates, but in God and the notion that the Information Age heralds a second American Revolution, as we do to Progressivism what the Founders did to Parliament, and for the same reasons.

  • richard mcenroe

    Hey, rememer when all those interviewers got all confrontational with Barack Obama and he got like all mad and stuff? Good times….

  • Garym

    No-one could tell if/when those interviewers were confrontational because they usually had thier heads bowed……..

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    Actually, Gary, their mouths were filled, IYKWIMAITYD.

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  • DKWalser

    Stacey,

    You’re right.  If someone were to take what I said and attribute a meaning to my words that I had said was inappropriate, I’d  be upset.  So, if (after Santorum clarified his meaning) Romney or Gingrich were to say that Santorum threatened to vote for Obama if Santorum were not the Republican nominee, Santorum would have a right to be upset. 

    How should Romney feel when Santorum goes around with an Etch-A-Sketch claiming Romney’s campaign admitted that Romney’s policy positions are written in sand?  Romney has specifically disavowed that interpretation of what his adviser said, yet Santorum continues to use the Etch-A-Sketch comment against Romney. 

  • BradleyBuck

    The difference is that Romney’s explanation makes no sense. His aide was asked about how Romney’s conservative positions would affect him in the general, and the aide responded that you hit a recess button at that point. Romney says the aide was referring to the organization of the campaign, but he was clearly asked about his positions, not organization. You can’t expect something like that to go away just because you say so unless you have a good explanation for what you said. Santorum has one, while Romney doesn’t

  • DKWalser

     BB,

    With all due respect, that’s BS on steroids.

    Virtually everyone who reported on Santorum’s remarks understood him to have meant that Romney was no different than Obama and that Santorum would prefer an Obama second term to a Romney presidency.  Santorum’s aide reinforced that view when he claimed that Romney and Obama were “mirror images” of each other (but, Santorum, would, of course, reluctantly, vote for Romney rather than Obama).  Later, Santorum claimed that he had been misunderstood.  He was only expressing the fear that others would conclude that Obama was preferable to Romney. 

    Fair enough.  None of us can read the hearts and minds of the principals, so we cannot know whether Santorum (or Romney’s aide) misspoke.  If Santorum expects others to accept that he merely expressed himself poorly, he should extend the same grace to Romney.  So should Santorum’s supporters.

    But, if you want to parse the differences between the two scenarios, keep in mind that in one the candidate was speaking and in the other the candidate was not.  Also keep in mind that Santorum has, on several occasions, said that there’s not much of a difference between Romney’s positions and Obama’s.  Given what Santorum has said the last few weeks, the next logical step for his rhetoric to take was that he’d just as well vote for Obama as Romney.  (Romney has consistently said that any of the Republican candidates would be infinitely preferable to Obama.) 

  • BradleyBuck

    That’s not what I understood him to mean when I first read his statement. It seemed like since his main point was that Romney can’t win because voters need a clear choice that the statement “we’re better off with Obama” was from the perspective of the voters, not Santorum himself. Santorum has also said repeatedly that he’ll support the nominee. To me his meaning was pretty clear, and it just seems so ridiculous that we would think that any of these candidates other than Paul would come out and say they wouldn’t support the nominee. Santorum, whatever you may think of him isn’t stupid, and there just isn’t anyway he’d say something like that even if he believed it.

    I don’t see how you could claim that Romney’s aide misspoke. The question he was asked was clear enough, and it clearly dealt with Romney’s positions, not the structure of the campaign or anything like that. What else could he have meant that would name sense as an answer to that question? You could say that he wasn’t speaking for the campaign, and that Romney doesn’t share his views, but they don’t seem to have done that. Instead they’ve tried to say he wasn’t talking about the issues of the campaign, but that doesn’t fit the question he was asked. I honestly can’t see another way to understand what he meant.

    Romney has held positions which were similar to Obama’s. I don’t see how anyone can deny that. Maybe he’s changed his mind, but either way that’s a liability vs Obama. That’s the point that Santorum has been making all this time, that Romney is compromised on some central issues in this campaign and can’t beat Obama. He’s never suggested Romney isn’t better than Obama in some areas, only that he’s to liberal on some of the most important issues that will come up in this campaign to effectively debate Obama. It’s perfectly reasonable to view his comments in that light.

  • Allan

    Perhaps he’ll join Dr. Paul in the disappear-o-sphere of the Republican radar. Ron who? Rick who?

  • Jjjackson

    But you cant mean Santorum didn’t say what he said.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    What Rick said in the Cavuto clip is consistent with his entire campaign.
    You can, if you want, take a bloody-minded view of the  transcript of the contentious remark and arrive at the conclusion that, for some reason, he deviated 180 degrees from the rest of the campaign, I suppose.

  • Priscilla

    Rick said it. Rick owns it.  We protect him from himself at our own peril.

  • Garym

    Holy Cow!! The Mittbots are flooding over from Hot Air even.

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  • Confutus

    “If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future”
     
    The spin that Santorum would prefer Obama came from between his own two lips, no matter how much clarification he attempts and no matter how much screeching outrage he shows at people for not understanding what he meant instead of what he said. This is high irony, coming from a guy who is busily trying to spin Eric Fehrnstrom as saying something he clearly didn’t mean, and trying to spin Romney as Obama Lite when Romney is nothing of the kind.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    I rather liked Fehrnstrom’s candor.

  • Confutus

    “I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch a Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and we start all over again.”

    It’s evident that Santorum would like voters to believe Romney so inconsistent that he would completely change his poisitions for the general, and that Fehrnstrom was being unintentionally candid…but that’s not precisely clear from what he actually said.  The other interpretation,  that the general election will be different facing Obama and without Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul shooting at him from his own side seems the more reasonable interpretiation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJGP4QXZ5PRW2MFA5E25CV2WNU rosalie

    It’s ironic how you say that what Fehrnstrom said was not precisely clear from what he actually said, but with Santorum it’s different.

  • Confutus

    It’s that little “instead of” that creates the impression of a preference for Obama.  I’m willing to believe that Santorum misspoke, but it’s his own misspeak.

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    Uhm, Romney’s own rhetoric when asked about the positions has (distressingly) confirmed the suspicion that he is indeed a wind sock and political whore who will say anything (and pick up any legislation) that he thinks will garner him favorables in the polls.

    That’s all well and good (though annoying and not productive) with a country that is relatively united and doing well.  At this time our country is none of those things.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJGP4QXZ5PRW2MFA5E25CV2WNU rosalie

    Romney is an Obama Lite.  He’s not a Marxist though.  However, we’ll get to the same bigger government as with O only maybe a little slower.

  • Confutus

    Romney keeps saying he wants to cut back the size of government.  I believe he not only means it, but knows more about what it will take to do it (having done battle with Massachussets leftists)  than Santorum does. 

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    Then why won’t he disavow legislation and platforms that will do precisely the opposite?

    Now, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt — but only for so long.  He will not be president of just Massachusetts if he goes all the way, and he will be representing all the people — which means not just the sort of people that made up his base there.

    He has to be willing to disavow some things, and continue to do so…even if it costs him some negatives.  Character does count.

  • pabarge

    Stacy,
    Santorum sucks and you suck even worse.

    Bend over, grab an ankle with one hand and try to find a shred of credibility for yourself wjith the other.

    Mutt.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    When you disparage the people in a content-free way like this, it has the effect of a double negative.
    Because you are not anonymous, I’ll fall short of marking you mumbling as spam.
    However, you stand admonished to offer something more of a positive argument if you want to disagree.
    I’m really not interested in censorship, Mutt.

  • BradleyBuck

    Well said. These attacks on Santorum are despicable and ignorant. His meaning is clear if you look at the entrity of what he said and consider that he’s said all along that he’ll support the nominee. But no, we can’t do that. That would begin to resemble intellectual honesty.

  • Dan

    Uhh, that sob story you just provided about Santorum working soooo hard and then subjected to ‘gotcha’ politics could be applied to all the candidates in the primary. Santorum didn’t seem to have a problem piling on when the media ‘gotcha’ frenzy turned its attention to Romney’s advisor using etch-a-sketch as an analogy for the pivot that every presidential primary candidate makes when turning to the general election. No, embittered Santorum is looking real presidential out there playing with a children’s toy and essentially telling his supporters that they should vote for Obama or stay home rather than support Romney if he is the nominee.

  • daialanye

    Superlative reasoning by Nopefull –go for the robotic moderate because the conservative candidate is less inspirational than Reagan.
     
    But what would Reagan do,huh? Would he forever rehash the Spector matter, which Santorum has, in fact, justified, if not to Nopefull’s satisfaction?
     
    I’m willing to overlook Spector, just as I’m willing to overlook Sandra Day O’Connor. Even the best of them can’t always get it right. But that’s no excuse for clownishly backing a candidate like Mitt, who can be expected to get it wrong time after time.

  • Commentmnstr

    It’s not Santorum misspeaking…it’s his whiny little bitch act with Cavuto that made me turn the corner on him. Away from him. He’s cracked under pressure. Not gaffed, cracked.

  • CPAguy

     There are no other alternatives.

  • smokedaddy

    I dunno, when I actually listened to the video with more than half a second of real thought, I heard what he was saying, using the all inclusive “we” to refer to independents and conservatives looking for a choice, not an echo. Unlike some, Santos does not substitute “we” for “I”. Rather, he uses “we” for the body politic at large. I thought he was excellent in the Cavuto interview. Ultimately I thought Cavuto was reasonably fair as well, tho it took him awhile and it took all of Santo’s fiery temperment to penetrate Neal’s FOX inspired narrative. Unfortunately, FOX’s anchors & hosts are falling into the Romney talking points, rather than engaging in any independent critical listening.

  • CPAguy

     Cavuto always plays devils advocate, even with people he likes.  Its his style.

  • Cheryl55

    Forget Santorum! Vote for the guy who CARES how much you will pay in taxes, for gas, for fuel oil, AND whether those like Santorum and Romney will have the gov’t running your life…that would be Speaker Gingrich!!!!

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  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     That’s probably who I’m going to vote for in the Kentucky Primary (unless I decide to write in Palin), but I’m very much afraid its over for Newt.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

    At some point, reality has to set in for some of you – those who compare Santorum to Reagan or who believe Cavuto was unfair and unreasonable in that interview are in need of professional help – and realize the numbers are no longer arguable.  In the same poll showing Santorum ahead in LA by double digits, 75% of Republicans in the survey say they expect Romney to  be the nominee.  They aren’t supporting Santorum as a candidate – he’s a safe protest vote for those who WISH there was a qualified more conservative candidate in the race.

    Freedom Works this week dropped its opposition to Romney, and even stated that with a GOP Congress he could be “the most conservative President ever.”  Jim DeMint issued a strongly favorable statement about Romney – not a formal endorsement, but if he isn’t interested in dating the guy, it was pretty close.  And Jeb Bush spoke for the resolution of doubts from the dreaded “Establishment” of the party with his own endorsement.

    OVER.  DONE.  There is no reasonable path to the nomination for Santorum, and no reasonable path to a brokered convention, either.  Romney would have to be caught, as Governor Edwards of LA once said of his own prospects, “in bed with a live boy or a dead girl” to lose now.

    ALL continuing this charade accomplishes  is to make it harder to beat Obama.  Frankly, I think there are a number of Santorum supporters who secretly WANT Obama to win so they can whine that Romney was a weak candidate later.  Whining does seem to be their most refined skill.

    At this point, Santorum is only ruining his own (extremely slim) chances of future viability as a candidate.  He’s playing Huckabee – although Huckabee didn’t spend his time bashing McCain.  

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    Maybe Santorum doesn’t care if he ruins his chances for a future in the GOP.
    Maybe, for that matter, does Newt.

    And please,  I have yet to see anyone who supported ABR want to see Obama win — I do see a lot of them who think they won’t be winning much other than a point for team R if Obama loses to Romney, but they don’t want to see Obama win.  I see a lot of people who can foresee some very serious issues, even that Romney with the way he is going will get blown out by Obama, but that is not the same as wanting Obama to win.
    Criticism is not being a “hater” — but I will admit: the Romney campaign and the Romney supporters have taken a very foolish turn with their rhetoric (the same one they themselves gave Perry supporters so much grief over).  They should seriously reconsider or it could cost them plenty (and they will have no one to blame but themselves).  It is not a good way to win hearts and minds, and the American people are not an enemy (thus you should care about winning their hearts and minds).

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  • http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/ Rich Vail

    By definition, politicians say stoopid shit…politicians under pressure of a failing campaign often say VERY stoopid shit.  I suspect that Mr. Santorum was a politician in a faltering campaign and having a temper, said some VERY STOOPID shit…

    Honestly, I haven’t really liked any of the candidates the GOP is fielding this year.  I would have preferred Paul Ryan myself, or Chris Christie, or just about anyone else other than those who have chosen to run.  None of them have run very good campaigns, with Romney being the worst of them all. 

    Rich Vail
    Pikesville, Maryland
    http://thevailspot.blogspot.com

  • Gbp41

    I would feel a lot more sympathy toward Santorum and his slip if he himself wasn’t make a HUGE issue about one comment made by a campaign aid (not even the candidate). 

  • catorenasci

    I listened to the  original clip of Santorum’s gaffe, and to his interview with Cavuto.  I’m admittedly not a Santorum fan, and I’m not really a Romney fan either.  My sense was that Santorum really did imply people might as well vote for Obama rather than Romney, and that Santorum’s attempt to justify himself not only didn’t wash, but made it worse because he came across more and more as a whiner.

    I don’t see Santorum as much of an American-style conservative, rather he seems to me more in the mode of a German Christian Socialist or Italian Christian Democrat – not really a conservative on liberty or economics, only on social issues.  I don’t see how any Tea Party supporter whose touchstones are individual liberty and fiscal conservatism could support Santorum

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    And what does an American style conservative look like?

    And I would love to see you extrapolate exactly, on what issues, Santorum is more in the mode of an SDP or CD member — and please, point to specifics.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Actually Romney is the one who strikes me as being more in the mold of a European style “conservative” like the British “Conservative” Party. But alas, that is almost without a doubt our soon-to-be nominee.

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    @NewtGingrich: “I’m back on the couch with Nancy Pelosi!” Promises to work with Democrats in Tulane speech… http://tinyurl.com/842bgbm

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