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Todd Akin And Amendment 2.5

Posted on | August 20, 2012 | 61 Comments

by Smitty

One of those people you really don’t want to upset, Dana Loesch, is truly hacked off at those assailing Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin:

Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin appeared on a local St. Louis television show (below) and discussed his thoughts on abortion, even in the instance of rape or incest, which accounts for less than 1% of abortions received. (More.)

Progressive backlash from Roman Polanski fans and deniers of Occupy rapes was immediate.

Read the whole thing, as I’m not bringing forward the reference URLs.

It looks like the Left has another Alinsky Rule 12 play underway. Unlike the failed Sandra Fluke attack on Rush Limbaugh, the fiscal conservative/social conservative overlap is a better place to drive the wedge. Sadly, some nominally conservative people subscribe to SCOTUS Amendment 2.5:

Well regulated worshippers being necessary to the Progress of Hell, the right of the women to abort the children they bear of shall not be infringed.

Abortion has got to be about the sweetest lie Satan has devised. If we’re each body, mind and soul, and a society is composed of men and women arranged in families, then note the contradiction afoot. Here is an argument that purports to be about liberty of the woman, but is really about the anarchy of the body. Men and families appear nowhere in the argument about abortion. Pregnancy is some present-tense condition, free of historical context. And the ‘right’ to snuff a life is free of future impact.

This is not mature liberty for the mind; this is slavery to the crotch. The Left continually makes an emotional appeal to the body, and proudly labels itself pro-freedom, while crushing the minds of Americans with anti-intellectual arguments. Sex is wonderful, but it is ultimately the means to the end of continuing humanity. How does one purport to care about women when sex-selective abortion actively targets women? Todd Akin, himself, is treated to a 65-year late abortion by the Left for offering an argument pertaining to 1% of abortions. Disagree with him if you like; offer counter-arguments. Suggest alternative policies. But crush the man in the manner seen on Twitter? Wow, Obama has really be a healer, hasn’t he?

Of two abortions with which I’ve some familiarity, both involved a context. Four victims: two women, two humans of unknown gender. In both cases, there was significant sin involved. (Can I say ‘sin’? Are we allowed to discuss right and wrong, as though anyone is still accountable for their misdeeds to the Almighty?) And so sin was piled on sin, and there was abortion. I found out much, much later in both cases. Forgive those involved? Yes. Is it true that they’re economically better off for all that? Who knows? That’s all counterfactual. Their souls? Hopefully they’ve prayed for forgiveness. (This is the sort of thing that goes unspoken, un-alluded, even in jest. I’m unsure either woman even knows that I know.)

And so I’m supposedly the evil guy for saying that abortion is wrong, because I’ve never been directly involved with this sort of pagan act. Look how it divides! Those who are enslaved by it are doomed to defend abortion, all the way to their own grave, like the grave they dug for the unborn. If you offer an intellectual objection to the evil, then you get the emotional “You don’t understand” reply. On the contrary: Planned Parenthood doesn’t understand the teleological point of manhood, womanhood, and families.

All I can tell you, as a man, is that I have stood there while my son was born, cut the cord, and heard his first wail of life. That any man is so stunted of mind and soul that he’d share his essence with some latrodectus woman who would devour his essence is disgusting. The arguments in favor of abortion are a sad brick in the wall of the mausoleum of our culture. God have mercy on these people, and heal their blighted souls, and may the lousy ideas of the abortion proponents return to hell.

Update: Lawyers, Guns and Money takes a dishonest swipe at Stacy McCain while evading the central point of this post. Losers.

Update II: linked at The Camp of the Saints.

Comments

61 Responses to “Todd Akin And Amendment 2.5”

  1. Amy Lidster
    August 20th, 2012 @ 7:58 am

    about the best editorial I’ve ever read on abortion, or anything else for that matter

  2. Mike G.
    August 20th, 2012 @ 8:50 am

    I agree. I held my oldest daughter before her mother and fed my second daughter her first bottle before her mother. That’s one of those things you never forget and the bonding that occurs is priceless, being present at both births

  3. Garym
    August 20th, 2012 @ 8:54 am

    The Dems are crying out in one voice: “Squirrel”!

  4. Brian D Paasch
    August 20th, 2012 @ 9:57 am

    ….Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.

    If someone was robbing a bank (crime), would it be okay for the cops and robbers to gun down customers, bank employees and/or pedestrians walking by outside who happen to get in the way? No, not okay.
    In the case of rape (crime) or incest (crime), would it be okay to kill any kids that happen to get in the way? Yes, that is okay.

  5. Anamika
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:25 am

    would it be okay to kill any kids that happen to get in the way?

    Aborting a fetus is not same as killing a baby. Keep your righteous indignations to yourself. Don’t lecture rape and incest victims. This goes to Smitty as well. Thanks.

  6. Brian D Paasch
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:31 am

    And your background in the life sciences is what exactly?

  7. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:35 am

    For a worked example, the father who caught a man molesting his daughter in TX beat him to death.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/charges-texas-father-beat-death-daughters-molester/story?id=16612071

    Can you bring your hypotheticals closer to reality?

  8. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:36 am

    How exactly do you draw the distinction?

  9. Red
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:37 am

    AUGH! The latrodectus link got me! AUGH!!!! The eight-leggeds! I hate them! NO quarter! Suffer none to live!!

  10. Red
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:41 am

    On a more serious note, I believe women who wish to view themselves as modern have been duped by the bra-burners and Planned Parenthood into believing that part of celebrating their independence and feminism includes embracing abortion as an option. For a woman to turn against her own abilities to bring forth life–that is probably the deepest form of self-hate.

  11. Steve in TN
    August 20th, 2012 @ 10:49 am

    Oh, for crying out loud, Smitty, the guy aborted his campaign with those remarks. This ain’t a discussion about ABORTION, it is about a candidate that had a decent chance to help win a Senate majority that has just chunked all that away. You and Dana come to the election, please.

  12. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:05 am

    Oh for crying out loud, Steve, are you really going to play the ‘macaca’ game with Akin?

  13. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:06 am

    Raaaaacist! 🙂

  14. Freyja
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:14 am

    Smitty, you clearly fail to understand the concept of body autonomy, and you further fail to understand that a fetus is not an autonomous being, but part of a woman’s body which may in time become a
    baby.

    In short: a fetus is not a baby, and trying to make arguments on that basis is inane.

    (You are arguing from ignorance.)

  15. Steve in TN
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:17 am

    This isn’t the Allen episode and it is dishonest to suggest it is. Akin screwed the pooch, plain and simple. He’s got to go. If we lose this seat we can NOT undo Obamacare, much less make any headway on abortion (for which we have FAR less support).

    BTW, Akin also did the issue of abortion great harm. He gets no support from me for be too stupid to hold office. No pro-life person should support such harmful idiocy.

    If you want to compare it to a past moronic campaign, the Clayton Williams gubernatorial loss to Ann Richards is the one…

  16. Freyja
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:22 am

    I’ve argued with anti-abortion people lots of times. Their argument comes down to “it’s a baby, a human being, from conception”. So if you want to offer an anti-abortionist any argument for being pro-choice, it needs to address this. Imagine how the argument would go down with YOU if you substituted ‘Had an abortion’ with ’caused a baby to be killed’. Unless you still think it’s a good argument given that substitution, then don’t expect it will sway them at all.

    I’m not saying this in judgement of the anti-abortionist view, I’m just stating it as a fact, and hopefully saving people time in these sort of discussions.

    You can have all the great arguments in the world for being pro-choice, but if they all depend on the idea that the foetus doesn’t become a viable human being until, say, 22 weeks+, then how is it going to be anything but preaching to the choir?

  17. Brian D Paasch
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:45 am

    Try setting a newborn baby on the floor in the baby food section at the grocery story. Then give the baby a lecture on “autonomy”. Then walk away. Come back in two weeks and see how that “autonomous” baby is doing. Oh, it’s dead. Too bad, it just wasn’t “autonomous” yet. No biggie.

  18. Anamika
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:47 am

    Recently I’ve seen a few anti-choicers ask “Oh yeah? If abortion is about a woman’s bodily autonomy, then how is it okay to abort female fetuses?” And then they sit there smugly as if they’ve just just some amazing revelatory point.

  19. Garym
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:52 am

    The irony, the irony.

  20. Anamika
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:56 am

    Please do not use science to justify your religious views.

  21. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:58 am

    Dishonest? You can disagree with my equating the two kerfuffles, but please explain to me where I am attempting to sell you a distorted fact.
    How about less hormones and more rationality here?
    I’m siding with Dana Loesch, because I think she’s a sharp lady, and if she supports Akin, then I’m inclined to support Akin.
    But tossing somebody under the bus over four syllables sounds like marching to McAskill’s drum, AFAICT.

  22. Brian D Paasch
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:01 pm

    My science credentials are pretty good and highly relevant. And unless you’ve got a degree in gender studies from Brown, my progressive credentials trump yours (degree from University of CALIFORNIA, Davis). And the best you can hope for on life sciences is a tie (biochemistry for me, doesn’t matter for you). So take your sad Neanderthal intellect out for a nice stroll to extinction. Buh-bye.

  23. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:03 pm

    ‘Body autonomy’ sounds like pure hooey. I understand understand fertilization, I understand life, and I understand that in order to justify butchering the innocent, you have to generate some fiction like ‘body autonomy’.
    Why don’t you step up to the plate and characterize some repeatable experiment where, in some chrysalis moment, the fetal caterpillar becomes a baby butterfly?
    You can’t, because no such thing occurs, and therefore the inane one here is you.
    May God have mercy on you.

  24. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:05 pm

    I’ve got an undergraduate engineering degree and a couple of master’s.
    Crucial to the mature life is not letting all that edumacation trump common sense.

  25. Steve in TN
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:13 pm

    Side with another because they are smart? OK…

    I don’t do that. What Akin said is as inflammatory as Whoopi Goldberg’s “rape-rape” nonsense. The problem is that Akin is running for office and what he said is nonsense. The further problem is that “smart” people on our side are defending it (though not our ticket, which is nonetheless being smeared with it).

    If Dana and you can’t see the legitimate problems with what Akin has done, then smart or not, you are on the wrong side.

    Again, this isn’t about abortion, it is about being too stupid to be a legitimate candidate in the most important election since forever. What Akin said and where he said it can only be described as moronic. We have a small window to perhaps correct this; Akin must go.

  26. Anamika
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:20 pm

    LOL!

    He certainly needs some given his stupid arguments.

  27. Quartermaster
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

    The argument boils down to the pro-abortion types proving the just conceived human being is not what it is, a human in embryo. If you can prove this, and I wish you rotsa ruck, then you can win the argument. To show that your thesis is correct you will have to disprove what is known in life science.
    As I said, Rotsa Ruck. The autonomy argument says nothing except that you have a woman that wants her sordid “fun” but is unwilling to actually accept the consequences of her actions. I would say the same to the guy who was the sperm donor and loves abortion just as much as the feminista harpies.

  28. Freyja
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

    We can make all the philosophical and scientific arguments that anyone
    might want, but ultimately what it all reduces to is a simple question:
    do women have autonomous control of their bodies or not?

    That’s the only abortion argument that counts.

  29. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:45 pm

    Hey, are we talking about the same Todd Akin who’s already got, like a DECADE, as a U.S. Rep? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_akin

  30. smitty
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:47 pm

    I guess if women were reproducing asexually, your autonomy argument wouldn’t completely suck.
    You’re restating the false, Postmodernist, Lefty argument that this post decries.
    I suppose that you are at least succinct here.

  31. Brian D Paasch
    August 20th, 2012 @ 12:56 pm

    You just nailed it. But with a sugar coat. Is your life value determined by the next person in line who is stronger than you? There, your truth minus the marketing spin. One of our nation’s founding principles was that Life was a right assigned from somewhere higher than the next strongest person. If we are going to throw that away and replace it with, “the stronger can do whatever they please with the weaker”, let’s be honest about our new philosophy.

  32. pcbedamned
    August 20th, 2012 @ 2:10 pm

    Here is my background in the “life sciences”…
    My ex-husband had sexually molested our daughter from the age of 3 up until a week prior to her 16th birthday when I found out about it. He began raping her at the tender age of 12. Now, I too believe that life begins at conception. As a mother I have twice felt that life growing within my womb, as well as mourned the two lives that did not make it to their birth. BUT – had at any point I found out that my daughter had been impregnated by her FATHER, I would have accepted an abortion. Actually, I probably would have insisted on it. Aside from the genetic problems that might arise from such coupling, the emotional and societal stigma attached would be far too much for any female to have to bare (especially one that is still a minor). As it is, my daughter is known and called around our small town by the horrid people here “Daddy F*cker”.
    Until you have been placed in a situation that calls for such a horrendous decision, one cannot judge, nor state how they would choose. I thank the Good Lord every day that this was one decision we never had to make, but for many others, it is not so. There are exceptions to every rule. I hope and pray that no one who espouses this belief ever has to face that choice.

  33. Mike G.
    August 20th, 2012 @ 2:25 pm

    This story might be apropos to the discussion; http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/08/20/girl-at-center-dominican-republic-abortion-debate-dies/?test=latestnews

    Should the doctors have treated the girl and let G-d decide whether the fetus lived or died? That was my opinion.

  34. James Knauer
    August 20th, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

    The GOP has become irrelevant. Todd Akin hails from 1812 and those 45 and younger are just not going to cater to this magic-thinking based nonsense. If you are a man discussing what should happen to women who defy your reproductive orders, the very next thing for you to do is to stop speaking.

    Congratulations, Sen. McCaskill, on your second term. It also appears Majority Leader Harry Reid isn’t going anywhere.

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    August 20th, 2012 @ 2:39 pm

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  36. MrPaulRevere
    August 20th, 2012 @ 3:13 pm

    I just called Sen. Blunt’s office and urged him to ask for Akins withdrawl. Respectfully Smitty, the issue is not abortion. As a Missouri Republican the issue is replacing Claire McCaskill. Us usual Michelle Malkin gets it right: “GOP candidates in critical races that could swing the balance of the U.S. Senate ought to be ready for prime time. Period.”

  37. Garym
    August 20th, 2012 @ 3:57 pm

    “SHUT UP!! He said.” This is about what your comment boils down to. I know you will probably find me a poll stating that ALL women agree with your position, but that doesn’t mean we stop having the argument. People should “magically” side with life.

  38. sconosciuto
    August 20th, 2012 @ 4:20 pm

    why stop there? Why not let god decide whether the patient lives or dies? Don’t you have any faith in your god?

  39. sconosciuto
    August 20th, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

    fascinating how nobody has dared to rebut nor reply to pcbedamned’s post.

    sorry to say, pc, you will be ignored as will all others whose reality might call into question the humanity of the carefully cultivated dogma of the anti-choice zealots.

  40. Mike G.
    August 20th, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

    I have faith in God….do you? Did you read the story?

  41. Bob Belvedere
    August 20th, 2012 @ 5:54 pm

    Who are you to decide if that child’s life is worth living?

  42. Bob Belvedere
    August 20th, 2012 @ 5:55 pm

    A Speciest too!

  43. Red
    August 20th, 2012 @ 6:02 pm

    No, no. Anti-spindly 8-legged creepers!!!

    “Spend your days doing what you enjoy in the company of people you really like.”—TQoA

  44. Joy McCann
    August 20th, 2012 @ 7:34 pm

    Yes. This is not about abortion–this is about the fact that a U.S. Representative doesn’t know the most basic facts about the female body, yet nonetheless purports to speak about it–with an “R” next to his name.

  45. Bob Belvedere
    August 20th, 2012 @ 8:16 pm

    We can make all the philosophical and scientific arguments that anyone
    might want, but ultimately …

    The sign of a Leftist losing an argument.

  46. Bob Belvedere
    August 20th, 2012 @ 8:28 pm

    A very sad case.

    The girl should have not be treated.

    She let herself get pregnant, whether it was intentional or out of ignorance of contraception. Either way, she decided to have sex and, even with contraception, there is always a chance it will fail. This young woman had Free Will.

    Once you make the decision to have intercourse, you have the responsibility to accept the consequences, be they positive or negative in your eyes.

    She got pregnant, therefore, that was the consequence. At some point, she got cancer. Sad, but she had the responsibility to protect the Human Life she created by her actions.

    This case involved two lives of equal value, but the mother had chosen to take on the responsibility of creating the child and that means she had the obligation to do whatever it took to protect that defenseless child – as did the doctors and nurses.

    Life is tragic and no matter how much we want to pretend it isn’t, it is. A is A.

  47. Bob Belvedere
    August 20th, 2012 @ 8:32 pm

    It would seem Roxeanne de Luca disagrees:
    http://twitter.com/RoxeanneDeLuca/statuses/237638226238640128

  48. Nick
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:14 pm

    Essence? Who the fuck are you, General Jack D Ripper?

  49. tim117
    August 20th, 2012 @ 11:19 pm

    Been pregnant a lot, Bobby?

  50. smitty
    August 21st, 2012 @ 4:01 am

    If any of that is true, it is terrible.