But If They’re ‘Born That Way’ …

Posted on | December 2, 2013 | 88 Comments

. . . why are there more lesbians than ever?

More women than ever are having same-sex experiences — or at least more women than ever are reporting it.
This week, a long-term British survey found a fourfold increase over the past two decades in women reporting at least one sapphic fling. Self-reported same-sex behavior among men, however, has remained somewhat constant. Now “the proportion of women reporting sexual experience with same-sex partners . . . exceeds that of men, at least at younger ages,” says the survey. Neither this increase nor the gender difference can be explained by a change in sexual self-identity, according to the study.
This isn’t just a British thing, either. Indiana University sex researcher Debby Herbenick tells me that her U.S. research has yielded similar results: 8 percent of men and 15 percent of women report same-sex sexual behavior in their lifetime. . . .
Why the gender difference, and why the increase?
Meredith Chivers, a sex researcher at Queen’s University, says, “Women have a greater capacity for gender-fluid sexual expression than men do. This might relate to women’s capacity to become sexually aroused by a broader range of sexual stimuli, including images of women.”

What we’re seeing here is the opportunistic quality of radical arguments. Never mind the contradictions. As long as the conclusion serves to encourage immoral perversion, logical consistency is optional.

Feminist writer Tracy Clark Flory of Salon happily discards the genetic-destiny “gay DNA” argument that was essential to the egalitarian “civil rights” claims of gay-rights activists in the 1990s. At the same time, however, she also abandons the androgyny-as-equality arguments of feminists, who insist that there are no meaningful differences between men and women. Now we must believe:

Sexuality is culturally influenced, so that decades of social change can produce an increase in the incidence of lesbianism;
and
Women are so different from men that their “gender-fluid sexual expression” makes them more susceptible to social influence.

Of course, most of the “women reporting at least one sapphic fling” are not exclusively lesbian, but would properly be classified as bisexual (at least, on a temporary or experimental basis) and, if you think about it, promoting this kind of opportunistic bisexuality is entirely acceptable to the gay community if their interest is primarily in obtaining a greater number of more attractive sex partners.

WHAT? Did I just suggest that some people may be less interested in “gay rights” as an abstract political concept than they are in increasing their chances of getting it on with a hottie? Holy cynicism, Batman!

Consider the implications: If homosexuality is so widely accepted that it is considered hateful to disapprove of it, then no one would dare take offense at being propositioned for gay sex, lest they be accused of homophobia and discrimination. Thus the childish peer-pressure claim that “Everybody’s doing it” (or at least, everyone is open to doing it, except haters) cloaks itself in “civil rights” rhetoric, and anyone who would refuse the offer of gay sex is a bigot.

Stigmatizing heterosexuality as a sort of prejudice is thus exposed as the next stage in the progress of radicalism, and if the arguments made tomorrow are inconsistent with the arguments made 10 or 15 years ago — when the claim of sexual identity as hard-wired from birth was crucial to the radical movement’s immediate goals — the only people who would call attention to this inconsistency are haters.

The gay-rights “argument” is therefore ultimately a coin-flip: Heads, they win; tails, SHUT UP, YOU THEOCRATIC HOMOPHOBES!

Category: Culture, Feminism, Gays, Science, Sex

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88 Responses to “But If They’re ‘Born That Way’ …”

Steve Skubinna
December 2nd, 2013 @ 2:56 pm

Then there was a lesbian friend, who was grousing that “men just couldn’t understand” what she did in bed with her partner. I said “Listen, Missy, I have fingers and a tongue too, and unless you use exotic appliances you haven’t done anything to a woman that I haven’t.”

She actually found that funny. And it did stop her claiming specialness, not that she did much of that anyway.

I will state, for the record, that lesbians make great girlfriends for straight men. Maybe they aren’t any more honest than anyone else, but if they do try to bullshit or manipulate you it won’t be with sex.

Which is refreshing.
gastorgrab
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:06 pm

Obviously “we” do.

If heterosexual parents give birth to a child, then die in a car accident, and that child is adopted by homosexual parents, what is the expectation that that child will be genetically ‘gay’?

The ‘gay gene’ theory ignores the fact that homosexuality is of no evolutionary advantage. That family line should have died out while humans were still ‘questing for fire’.

On top of that, homosexuality might even disadvantage a primitive community whose life span was short due to natural hardships. All human cultures are built around the family unit, and any member of the community that does not contribute to that shared goal might be seen as a burden.

Homosexuality is only possible because of civilization, and only in those communities which recognize individual rights. Homosexuality is of no use to the purely socialist (tribalist) state.
concern00
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:14 pm

Prepare yourselves for another shock revelation of contradictions of the left. Evolution (left’s pet theory) contraindicates born this way, as does basic genetics.

There are enough people who engage in homosexual behavior who have pretty much laughed off the ‘born this way’ meme, without us having to bear the burden of proof.
Alessandra
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:16 pm

You are blind if you think the problem is with the men only – these women themselves literally are nothing but sheet.
Alessandra
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:18 pm

The more they shove it down everyone’s throats by culture and conditioning, the more LGBTs there are. Genetic, huh?
Now can we get rid of all the ridiculous “sexual orientation” discrimination laws?
gastorgrab
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:18 pm

One other thing that really annoys me about the ‘gay gene’ theory is that it implies some sort of genetic entitlement. A person’s genetic makeup is NOT the basis of our political system. People do NOT have rights simply because they have the correct set of genes. A ‘gay gene’ should be irrelevant to any political discussion.

Didn’t we already fight a civil war over genetic entitlements?
Alessandra
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:19 pm

So when is the APA going to admit they have been a bunch of unprofessional slimeballs for four decades claiming that sexual orientation can’t be changed and that everyone must normalize it?
Alessandra
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:22 pm

And it makes a lot more women sexually harass all women, including heterosexual women
gastorgrab
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:24 pm

Well, according to the revised liberal theory, cultural influences can cause genetic mutations.

But doesn’t that technically make Liberal Progressivism a ‘carcinogen’.
Alessandra
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:24 pm

Only people who are completely ignorant of psychology, sociology, and anthropology have ever argued for the stupid “born this was” genetic argument.

No one is born homosexual and here is why

http://alessandrareflections.wordpress.com/not-born-lgbt/
Alessandra
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:26 pm

The question now is: How long until the masses realize that Lady Gaga is just a retarded piece of tootsie roll and there’s no such thing as “born this way” for people with a homosexuality or bisexuality problem?
gastorgrab
December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:29 pm

In the ideal Progressive community, sexual orientation is assigned by government “sexperts”.
Matthew W
December 2nd, 2013 @ 5:22 pm

I’m picturing a Cro Magnon “Bird Cage!!”
concern00
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:16 pm

Thanks for the link. Your page appears to be snowing.
RKae
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:17 pm

Just a look at a prison population will tell you that homosexuals are not “born that way,” but compensating or adjusting to something.

And look at the stupidity of “LGBT.” We’re told that “L” & “G” are born that way because “God doesn’t make mistakes.” However, when it comes to the “T” we’re suddenly told that God DOES INDEED make mistakes and it’s up to modern medical science to fix the problem.

Idiots just can’t get their story straight… so to speak.
RKae
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:19 pm

I would say it’s not a societal ick factor, but a natural one. Quite the opposite: the societal factor is the desensitization of it.
RKae
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:21 pm

Same way Michael Jackson was formerly black, I suppose. I don’t know. Life used to be so simple. I need a time machine.
RKae
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:22 pm

Yes, even the most primitive ritual dances need choreographers.
Zohydro
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:32 pm

I wonder if Chaz Bono has technically “switched teams” now that she’s legally male…
Quartermaster
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:36 pm

I’m shocked that you would think in such an unacceptable way. To the gulag with you. Your camp is commanded by Commissar Lysenko. He’ll re-educate you in acceptable beliefs.
Quartermaster
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:39 pm

What civil war might you be speaking of?
Zohydro
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:49 pm

We could anticipate a similar ideological conundrum if a universally effective medical cure for homosexuality were discovered…
gastorgrab
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:55 pm

1860-65. You know, the first time the Democratic party declared war on the United States of America.

Come to think of it, didn’t we fight a revolution for that same reason? Didn’t the war of independence end the idea of Aristocracy?
Zohydro
December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:57 pm

Snowing! I see it too there… Random letters blinking in streams down the page! Freaky, man!
Dana
December 2nd, 2013 @ 7:27 pm

That was a rhetorical question, right? 🙂
Quartermaster
December 2nd, 2013 @ 7:44 pm

There are a lot of things I will blame on the Dimocrap party, but declaring war on the US in 1860 isn’t one of them. One side in that left because the north had no intention of sticking to the constitution. We’re still living with the result of the wrong side winning.

The war that won our independence didn’t ends the idea of aristocracy either.
Bob Belvedere
December 2nd, 2013 @ 9:05 pm

I would add another factor: the fear of the ‘brute male’ that is pushed onto girls starting in their first years in school.

Perhaps another factor is the portrayal of men in all areas of entertainment as immature near-animals.
ajpwriter
December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:12 pm

And there’s your answer right there.
SDN
December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:22 pm

Actually, it’s far more likely to be gays vs Muslims.
SDN
December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:26 pm

Not to mention more acceptable to the PC police who govern college life from grades to dorm.
Zohydro
December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:44 pm

There are legions of “homosexuals” with offspring biologically theír own today…

In Ancient Greece which was famously tolerant of its homosexual/pederast problem, it was expected that homosexuals would eventually have a real family!
Alessandra
December 3rd, 2013 @ 3:31 am

It’s winter here already! 🙂

I’m not sure why it’s doing that. It started a few days ago… I thought it was some blog theme author having fun with the seasons…
I didn’t change anything on my settings!
Alessandra
December 3rd, 2013 @ 3:36 am

A gay gene exists as much as a pedophile gene exists or a gay pedophile gene exists
Alessandra
December 3rd, 2013 @ 3:41 am

No. Having a healthy psychology about sexuality (repudiating sexual perversions and dysfunctions such as homosexuality) is rather the opposite of having a profound psycho-social problem like homosexuality.

Either way, it is all based on psychology and other non-genetic factors, in any case.
Alessandra
December 3rd, 2013 @ 3:43 am

It just depicts the level of frustration of perverts who don’t obtain the confirmation their twisted minds wish for
Alessandra
December 3rd, 2013 @ 3:50 am

Yes 🙂

In a way, I am really happy to see all these cracks in the pro-homosexuality propaganda machine at this time.

Things looked so bleak a few years ago that I thought I would die long before larger society started to realize how many lies it had been fed by disingenuous libtards wearing psychology and sexuality authority hats, insisting that homosexuality was biologically determined.

The more you understand about psychology, the more it becomes crystal clear that the mind can be deformed in every which way, including the most sexually perverted ways.

But all of that happens to a person’s brain AFTER they were born because of multiple experiences. No baby is born sexually perverted; no baby is ever born with any kind of homosexual problem.
Zohydro
December 3rd, 2013 @ 7:55 am

Make what you will about “sexuality” in prisons… There’s a lot of overlap with legend and reality about that situation, but I will assert that there is no such thing as “situational homosexuality”, i.e. where someone turns homo when there are no potential oppposite gender partners available.

One of the “dirty little secrets” of the gays is their astronomically disproportionate rates of institutionalisation… Prison just isn’t much of a deterrent to those who don’t see being locked up in close quarters under brutal conditions with only members of their own gender for company as any particular hardship! While there is some actual rape in prisons, the overwhelming majority of homosexual behaviour in prisons really is consensual…
Alessandra
December 4th, 2013 @ 1:18 am

I looked into it and it’s just a nifty Xmas season blog theme effect! (but you can turn it off!)