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You Stay Classy, MSNBC!

Posted on | December 26, 2013 | 44 Comments

Many days, I Watch MSNBC So You Don’t Have To™, but it’s not safe for children and the kids are out of school this week, so I wasn’t watching Monday when the World’s Worst Network featured this:

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity and the rest of those folks ought to be ashamed of themselves. And gay, lesbian, transgender, and bisexual people ought to speak up and link their own fate to African-American people because ultimately we’re in the thing together.

What twisted travesty of logic is this? Dyson is a Professor at Georgetown University, which is another reason you should never let your kids attend Georgetown University, but it got worse:

Jesus was a Jew who, around whom a religion was made. So the anti-Semitism of many of the Christians is ironic to begin with.

(Note the casualness with which Professor Dyson  smears “many of the Christians” with the accusation of anti-Semitism.)

And then secondly, the gay, lesbian, transgender, bisexual stuff — look through the Bible. There’s a lot of interesting things. The same men who will stand up in the church of all men. “I put my God, Jesus, overall women. I love him more than I love her.”
Hmmm. Do you really? That sounds interestingly homoerotic to people who are outside your religious traditions. I’m not suggesting it is but I’m suggesting that there are some very interesting, subtle, narrative tensions within the Bible itself and within Christianity beyond that.

Wait a doggone minute! Did you just gay-bait Christians while condemning their alleged “bigotry”? Ed Morrissey remarks:

This is the kind of commentary that only occurs in profoundly unserious circles, with MSNBC among the leading examples. I doubt that Dyson buys this schtick, which is just intended to tweak Christians who believe that Corinthians is scripture by using the “you guys are so gay!” insult, but it’s more an insult to his own audience.

BTW, notice how Professor Dyson feels obligated to do the full laundry list — “gay, lesbian, transgender, and bisexual people” — as if each subcategory must be name-checked? It’s as though he fears that, if he merely said “gay people,” the network  would get angry e-mail from angry lesbians, radical transgenders and militant bisexuals who felt snubbed by the omission. But the connotation of the word “gay” as a synonym for “homosexual” obviously includes lesbians, too. The “transgendered community” is a tiny decimal-point fraction of a percent, a minority so small as to be quite nearly invisible were it not for all the media hype. And as for bisexuals, everybody hates them, including gays and lesbians who are offended by their (usually closeted) indecisiveness.

Liberals like Professor Michael Eric Dyson can exist only within environments like media and academia, where the fundamental absurdities of their rhetoric are never directly challenged.



44 Responses to “You Stay Classy, MSNBC!”

  1. Pablo
    December 26th, 2013 @ 12:45 pm

    Jesus was a Jew who, around whom a religion was made. So the anti-Semitism of many of the Christians is ironic to begin with.

    He must be referring to “Reverends” like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

  2. richard mcenroe
    December 26th, 2013 @ 12:45 pm

    Anybody who believes black people and LGBTWXYZ’s are “in this together” should have seen what happened when the LA gays tried to picket the black churches after blacks voted against Prop 8 by 70%.

    There’s a reason they decided to picket the Mormons instead.

  3. Joe Dokes
    December 26th, 2013 @ 12:47 pm

    Dyson hides it rather well but he’s a scoffer.

    Scoffers won’t end well.

  4. Pablo
    December 26th, 2013 @ 12:47 pm

    Does this Georgetown perfessor equate loving someone with sticking your penis in them? Does Dyson love his father, assuming that they’ve met?

  5. Greg Halvorson
    December 26th, 2013 @ 12:55 pm

    Progressivism is cultural cancer and the only cure is a great awakening of millions of Christians prepared to wage spiritual war.

  6. Dana
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:01 pm

    And you are surprised that there is no real linkage between the facts and MSNBC?

    Howsomeever, the esteemed Dr Dyson is getting closer to the truth than he would ever admit: the simple fact is that, unless you are celibate, you simply can’t be both homosexual and Christian.

  7. Zohydro
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:04 pm

    It’s sickening beyond words when the homos link the gay rights movement to the Civil Rights Movement… The only other group or class that they might possibly be compared with is the disabled!

    SCOTUS has yet to address the level of legal scrutiny to which our precious homosexual community might fall under, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they get the same legal class status as race and gender eventually…

  8. CrustyB
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:18 pm

    Being born black is natural. Stirring your wang around in another guy’s caca is a symptom of mental illness and is unnatural.

  9. Julie Pascal
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:18 pm

    As one of my favorite authors had her characters say (more or less): “He’s bisexual you know.” (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) “Was bisexual. Now he’s monogamous.”

    Actually, one of the things that bothers me the worst, the absolute *worst* about the “gay agenda” is that all relationships… ALL relationships… are now assumed to be sexual. Any serious love between men is “homoerotic” and there’s even an element of that between women… which is why the gay guy is now the only truly safe super best friend. Any profound loyalty gets a sexual downgrade. Any serious closeness is suspect.

    Does it have to be that way? Maybe not. But people like Dyson are exactly the reason that it is. When he (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) talks about any profound love, or any love at all, as having homoerotic elements, he’s trying to destroy human connections in order to score his cheap point.

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  11. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:43 pm
  12. Stogie Chomper
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:51 pm

    MSNBC’s implication that Christians are antisemitic is ironic. Actually, the largest American support for Israel comes from Evangelical Christians. The greatest antisemitism seems to emanate from the left, with anti-Israel boycotts and other forms of open anti-Jew bigotry.

  13. Francis W. Porretto
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:59 pm

    This Dyson character is…strange. There’s no demographic in America that displays less tolerance for sexual perversion than American blacks. It’s hard to believe that Dyson is unaware of that.

    It’s even stranger that Georgetown, a nominally Catholic institution, has such a creature on its payroll.

  14. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    December 26th, 2013 @ 1:59 pm

    I know plenty of guys who play cards or go fishing with other guys…who really just play cards or go fishing.

  15. Joe Dokes
    December 26th, 2013 @ 2:00 pm

    “Does this Georgetown perfessor equate loving someone with sticking your penis in them?”

    Is he a leftist?

  16. Joe Dokes
    December 26th, 2013 @ 2:06 pm

    It’s not quite that simple. If someone is celibate, he or she does not thereby automatically cease to be an adulterer, fornicator or homosexual. Christ laid out the principle:

    “But I say to you that whoever looks on a woman to lust after her in his heart has already committed adultery with her.”


    “For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

  17. Christy Waters
    December 26th, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

    I love the way these self-absorbed elites never condemn Muslims, who hang homosexuals from ropes on a regular basis. Frankly, I think we should go back to using the word “queer”.

  18. Adjoran
    December 26th, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

    OF COURSE Dyson has to “check all the boxes.”

    He’s an Affirmative Action baby like our President. He would be essentially unemployable without it and the foolish federal subsidies we waste on higher education which permits them to indulge in stupid, lazy idiots like him.

    So he must pay lip service (at least figuratively) to all the victim groups, in homage of his own good fortune in being employed to spew his hate.

  19. Adjoran
    December 26th, 2013 @ 2:25 pm

    Met? I doubt his momma has any clue who the baby daddy.

  20. Josh_Painter
    December 26th, 2013 @ 3:37 pm

    RT @smitty_one_each: TOM You Stay Classy, MSNBC! #TCOT

  21. Sard
    December 26th, 2013 @ 2:54 pm

    Wait a minute, Dyson uses “homoerotica” as a slam, while simultaneously singing the praises of LGBT activism? He smears Christians as “anti-Semitic,” yet the “progressive” cause he so wholeheartedly endorses can’t stand Israel? Obviously more goading by the purveyors of identity politics–utterly laughable.

  22. Neo
    December 26th, 2013 @ 3:04 pm

    Just consider for a moment the size of these communities.

    The LBGTXYZ (cats in the cupboard) communities are obviously overrepresented in the entertainment industry, paving the way for a new round of diversity and inclusiveness by bringing in more people from the “normal” (by Gauss’ definition) part of the population curve.

  23. tlk244182
    December 26th, 2013 @ 3:22 pm

    That any respected university would be taken in by this crass mountebank is unsettling.

  24. DeadMessenger
    December 26th, 2013 @ 3:46 pm

    Well said…

  25. Dana
    December 26th, 2013 @ 4:06 pm

    The obvious difference is that while we are all sinners, of both the mind and the body, we can at least try not to sin. The homosexual who is celibate, or who at least tries to be celibate, but may have made a mistake or three, is no different from the normal man who tries to not commit adultery, but has slipped up a few times. Remember, the Lord forgave the woman caught in adultery, and the Lord can — and will — forgive other sins, if asked.

  26. Joe Dokes
    December 26th, 2013 @ 5:15 pm

    True, true! But consider: Corinth was one of the most homosexualized societies of the ancient world. Some of the believers there had been practicing homosexuals and apparently were falling back into it. But what were they told? “Such WERE some of you.” They were such no longer, along with every other sin the apostle listed. They had to be reminded that they didn’t HAVE to sin anymore because they’d DIED to sin in Christ, then born anew, leaving the old nature crucified…still alive and active, true, but rendered inoperative (as the Greek literally puts it). Conversely, one who is outside of or apart from Christ can, to some degree, choose not to sin…people do it every day…but in God’s estimation, he/she is still dead in sin because they have not died in Christ. They’re alive, physically, but there’s no true Life in them. They’re still “dead in sin,” however outwardly moral they may appear to you or I.

    There’s no middle ground: we’re either alive to God via our death with Christ and thereby dead TO sin, or we’re still dead IN sin, thus dead to God (lest we repent).

    For the above reasons, being BOTH a Christian AND a ___________ [name the sin practice] AT THE SAME TIME is biblically impossible, by God’s decree of the born again that “old things have passed away; behold, ALL things have become NEW.” The term “ex-homosexual” is actually accurate, if one is born again. But one cannot be a homosexual AND born again. If one is born again one has died to it, whether he/she knows it or not.

  27. Joe Dokes
    December 26th, 2013 @ 5:33 pm

    PS…woman caught in adultery.

    It’s unclear that Christ actually forgave her because it’s unclear that she was repentant. It’s quite possible she was, but it’s just not clear. What *is* clear is that the Pharisees were breaking the Law by (a) not providing the required eyewitnesses to her adultery, and (b) not bringing forth the man with whom she’d committed adultery; by the Law he was to be stoned at the same time she was.

    Since these rules were not followed, and since Christ said He came to uphold and fulfill the Law (which He wrote!), He could not condemn her and actually let her go on a technicality. Hence His warning to her, which can be paraphrased “Go, and don’t do it again!”

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  29. Dana
    December 26th, 2013 @ 6:00 pm

    Uhhh, and how is it clear that the Pharisees were breaking the law? The passage in John 8:1-11 makes no mention whatsoever concerning the number of witnesses, so there could have been two or more. Nor does it state that the man was not brought forward for punishment; he is simply not mentioned.

    Nor does the argument that “it’s unclear that she was repentant” impress me very much. She was speaking directly to Jesus, and if she were unrepentant, he would have known. He understood what was just, and I have some difficulty with the Lord letting people off on a technicality.

    Now, the real unknown is: did she eschew adultery after the encounter with the Lord?

  30. Dana
    December 26th, 2013 @ 6:03 pm

    Remember: MSNBC stands for MetroSexual No Balls Corporation.

  31. Steve Skubinna
    December 27th, 2013 @ 12:13 am

    Cake. Also see: having; eating

    Or consider the Bush haters that will tell you even today that Dubya’s IQ is in the low double digits, and in the next breath argue that he’s a criminal mastermind. Mortimer Snerd and Professor Moriarty all in one!

  32. Steve Skubinna
    December 27th, 2013 @ 12:14 am

    Nice try. We all know that MSNBC will stand for anything.

  33. Micha_Elyi
    December 27th, 2013 @ 12:34 am

    Has Pope Francis suppressed the Jesuits yet? They deserve it, Georgetown is one of their schools.

  34. Micha_Elyi
    December 27th, 2013 @ 12:36 am

    Celibate doesn’t mean what you think it means, Joe Dokes. Celibate is more than mere abstinence.

    Try again.

    (This has been a corporal work of mercy, instructing the ignorant.)

  35. Micha_Elyi
    December 27th, 2013 @ 12:39 am

    MS. NBC, the lesbo feminazi network.

  36. 'Murica
    December 27th, 2013 @ 1:17 am

    Mr. RSS McCain seems quite knowledgable of gay culture and terms used in gay culture and to describe gay people. I wonder why this is…

  37. David R. Graham
    December 27th, 2013 @ 1:18 am

    Gaystapo. The coinage belongs to Roger Smith commenting at Power Line”

  38. Steve Skubinna
    December 27th, 2013 @ 1:24 am

    Clever. The old “it takes one to know one” argument is just as decisive today as it was when I was in grade school.

  39. Joe Dokes
    December 27th, 2013 @ 8:00 am

    “Uhhh, and how is it clear that the Pharisees were breaking the law?”

    By using this guilty woman as nothing more bait in a trap for Christ, and having done so totally against the Mosaic rules, they were bearing false witness thus breaking the Law.

  40. Joe Dokes
    December 27th, 2013 @ 8:10 am

    Define me “celibate” from the Bible, please.

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  42. Quartermaster
    December 27th, 2013 @ 10:56 pm

    The fact that Georgetown is Jesuit University is instructive.

  43. Quartermaster
    December 27th, 2013 @ 10:58 pm

    Hard to believe that what goes on in Deer Camps is mostly talking around a camp fire and drinking beer while bragging about your hunting prowess.

  44. tlk244182
    December 28th, 2013 @ 7:45 am

    The Society of Jesus has been over-run by heretics and should probably be suppressed, along with many other religious orders. It seems that Georgetown is now Catholic in name only. The Devil concentrates his assault on the Church, since the sects are doing fine without him.