Howard Kaloogian Is A Completely Unreasonable, Rabid, Extremist Tea Party Fiend And Stuff

Posted on | March 29, 2010 | 19 Comments

by Smitty

No, really, he clocks in here as sort of a mellow fellow who could be your neighbor. A couple of questions fronted in this interview with
of PJTV are:

Can the Tea Party co-exist with the GOP?
Can the GOP survive without the Tea Party?

It seems that there will have to be some reckoning. The Tea Parties lack the savvy and the knowledge of the gory details. The GOP holds the cards there. On the other hand, the GOP of the last several decades has been Progressivism Lite, or in the case of some, no’ so much. OK, that was a mean link.

Back on topic, the simple truth is that DC is running open loop. Even if it wanted to, Congress couldn’t fix itself. The ballot in November is going to be a help, but even massive turnover in the House and Senate may not be enough. I submit that more attention to Randy Barnett and outfits like Friends Of the Article V Convention are good places to begin. Also, we should consider pressuring candidates to support an Article V Convention almost as strongly as repealing ObamaCare. I get the impression that President Bring-it-on wouldn’t admit to even slight concern about an Article V Convention. Truly, if you haven’t got the political power to ratify anything, you haven’t much. Yet, there has to be a building towards that goal, and it has to start somewhere.

So, may fortune smile on Kaloogian, the Tea Party Express, and every American citizen getting involved and communicating with the leadership that purportedly represents them.

Category: Republicans, Tea Party

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19 Responses to “Howard Kaloogian Is A Completely Unreasonable, Rabid, Extremist Tea Party Fiend And Stuff”

jefferson101
March 30th, 2010 @ 1:50 am

He’s dead right.

But I think that the McCain-Graham-Romney wing of the Republican Party will hold enough influence to split us in two.

Which leaves the Democrats winning with 34% of the votes, mostly.

So I have to fall back on History. “When, in the course of Human Events, it becomes necessary…..”

Yeah. I’m a pessimist. But there it is. I’d love to be wrong, but I’m just not feeling it, most days.
jefferson101
March 29th, 2010 @ 8:50 pm

He’s dead right.

But I think that the McCain-Graham-Romney wing of the Republican Party will hold enough influence to split us in two.

Which leaves the Democrats winning with 34% of the votes, mostly.

So I have to fall back on History. “When, in the course of Human Events, it becomes necessary…..”

Yeah. I’m a pessimist. But there it is. I’d love to be wrong, but I’m just not feeling it, most days.
The Javelineer
March 30th, 2010 @ 2:22 am

The Republican Party is run by the McCain-Graham-Romney wing. It’s called the RNC.

These people have to go. Until the Tea Party comes to grips with this, it will only serve to further the ambitions of the McCain-Graham-Romney wing.

I don’t understand the Tea Party affection for Palin. She campaigned with McCain and supports his current Senate campaign.

If the Tea Party doesn’t like the policies of McCain, then they can’t reasonably support Palin. She’s triangulating Clinton-style, gluing together the Tea Party refrom efort with the establishment punks it opposes.

That’s not going to work.
The Javelineer
March 29th, 2010 @ 9:22 pm

The Republican Party is run by the McCain-Graham-Romney wing. It’s called the RNC.

These people have to go. Until the Tea Party comes to grips with this, it will only serve to further the ambitions of the McCain-Graham-Romney wing.

I don’t understand the Tea Party affection for Palin. She campaigned with McCain and supports his current Senate campaign.

If the Tea Party doesn’t like the policies of McCain, then they can’t reasonably support Palin. She’s triangulating Clinton-style, gluing together the Tea Party refrom efort with the establishment punks it opposes.

That’s not going to work.
richard mcenroe
March 30th, 2010 @ 3:05 am

Ya know, if we shovel the GOP dinosaurs of the last century out as well, the gory details don’t matter.

First break the Dem majority. Then clean up the GOP in the next primary cycle.

This is a war, not against one party, but incumbency…

Javelineer, Palin is doing what she has to do with McCain, even as Truman did with the old-line Missouri pol who mentored him before his own downfall. Loyalty has to count for something.
richard mcenroe
March 29th, 2010 @ 10:05 pm

Ya know, if we shovel the GOP dinosaurs of the last century out as well, the gory details don’t matter.

First break the Dem majority. Then clean up the GOP in the next primary cycle.

This is a war, not against one party, but incumbency…

Javelineer, Palin is doing what she has to do with McCain, even as Truman did with the old-line Missouri pol who mentored him before his own downfall. Loyalty has to count for something.
Estragon
March 30th, 2010 @ 4:35 am

So, the solution is to turn the party over to nutcase Birthers like Hayworth? Of course, that loudmouth would undoubtedly stick his foot in his mouth enough to lose the seat, so there’s one vote for repeal we don’t have to worry about, eh?

Great idea! Let’s replace anyone with less than 85.3% lifetime ACU ratings with unelectable jerks! (Hayworth couldn’t even hold his own very “red” district).

And sure, let’s push for an Article V convention when we don’t have the votes – and especially while Democrats still control Congress, and can manipulate the process to their advantage (such as by specifying ratification by legislature or convention depending upon which looks more favorable to scuttling any proposed Amendments).

Such deep thinking! No wonder Obama isn’t scared of our side!
Estragon
March 29th, 2010 @ 11:35 pm

So, the solution is to turn the party over to nutcase Birthers like Hayworth? Of course, that loudmouth would undoubtedly stick his foot in his mouth enough to lose the seat, so there’s one vote for repeal we don’t have to worry about, eh?

Great idea! Let’s replace anyone with less than 85.3% lifetime ACU ratings with unelectable jerks! (Hayworth couldn’t even hold his own very “red” district).

And sure, let’s push for an Article V convention when we don’t have the votes – and especially while Democrats still control Congress, and can manipulate the process to their advantage (such as by specifying ratification by legislature or convention depending upon which looks more favorable to scuttling any proposed Amendments).

Such deep thinking! No wonder Obama isn’t scared of our side!
Lizard Stomper
March 30th, 2010 @ 6:38 am

Estragon:

You are obviously a troll from the Halls of the Lizard King.
Lizard Stomper
March 30th, 2010 @ 1:38 am

Estragon:

You are obviously a troll from the Halls of the Lizard King.
smitty
March 30th, 2010 @ 9:59 am

@Estragon,
Pushing for the Article V convention is the only way to GET the votes, boss.
Anything less, in my opinion, is tacit acceptance of the status quo sinking.
smitty
March 30th, 2010 @ 4:59 am

@Estragon,
Pushing for the Article V convention is the only way to GET the votes, boss.
Anything less, in my opinion, is tacit acceptance of the status quo sinking.
The Javelineer
March 30th, 2010 @ 3:56 pm

Hey, who is this Smitty guy? He’s right all the time.

The federal government has taken control of the states – to the point of ignoring the constitutional amendment process.

There’s a difference between arguing against a policy and arguing for law-breaking. One can be against the policy of calling an Article V convention and still be and advocate of constitutional government.

Once the Article V application is submitted from the proper number of states, arguing aginst the convention is an argument against the Constitution, not just against a policy.

By the way, estragon, that’s really bad. You may want us to wait for a convention like Waiting for Godot. No way.

We’ll have constitutional, limited government one way or another. The estagonian policy of “Don’t let’s do anything. It’s safer,” ain’t going to happen. We’re taking it back.

Besides, Godot arrived in 1786. We’re trying to free him, not find him.
The Javelineer
March 30th, 2010 @ 10:56 am

Hey, who is this Smitty guy? He’s right all the time.

The federal government has taken control of the states – to the point of ignoring the constitutional amendment process.

There’s a difference between arguing against a policy and arguing for law-breaking. One can be against the policy of calling an Article V convention and still be and advocate of constitutional government.

Once the Article V application is submitted from the proper number of states, arguing aginst the convention is an argument against the Constitution, not just against a policy.

By the way, estragon, that’s really bad. You may want us to wait for a convention like Waiting for Godot. No way.

We’ll have constitutional, limited government one way or another. The estagonian policy of “Don’t let’s do anything. It’s safer,” ain’t going to happen. We’re taking it back.

Besides, Godot arrived in 1786. We’re trying to free him, not find him.
john
March 30th, 2010 @ 4:30 pm

i’m all for dusting off the constitution and putting it to work for us right here, right now. time for the Article V Convention.
john
March 30th, 2010 @ 11:30 am

i’m all for dusting off the constitution and putting it to work for us right here, right now. time for the Article V Convention.
statusquobuster
March 30th, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

To fight the two-plutocracy status quo we must use the option the Founders gave us; besides learning the real facts at foavc.org become a member of the nonpartisan group to help pressure Congress to obey the Constitution and give us a convention.
statusquobuster
March 30th, 2010 @ 11:44 am

To fight the two-plutocracy status quo we must use the option the Founders gave us; besides learning the real facts at foavc.org become a member of the nonpartisan group to help pressure Congress to obey the Constitution and give us a convention.
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