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‘Get God Back in Our Culture’

Posted on | October 26, 2011 | 12 Comments

“One of the reasons we have this moral crisis today is because too many people are trying to take God out of our culture, little by little. … The way we’re going to protect the unborn in this nation is to work on the right problem, get God back in our culture.”
Herman Cain, National Right to Life Convention, June 24


12 Responses to “‘Get God Back in Our Culture’”

  1. Anonymous
    October 26th, 2011 @ 4:59 pm

    God will return to our culture- one way or another

    Best do it the right and avoid His wrath

  2. ThePaganTemple
    October 26th, 2011 @ 5:12 pm

    That answer isn’t going to satisfy the segment of pro-life voters that expects a complete legal ban on all abortions. Kennedy isn’t going to vote to uphold any kind of abortion bans outside of maybe third trimester abortions, if that. That means he or at least one other justice is going to have to be replaced by a staunch conservative like Thomas before Roe has even the slightest chance of being overturned. Which is fine with me, because I know Cain will appoint just that kind of jurist, so I don’t understand what all the angst is about. Cain can personally be a secret worshiper of Molech and sacrifice ten infants every full moon, but if he’s determined to appoint as many Clarence Thomas type conservatives as he can, he’s as pro-life as he needs to be, at least when it comes to overturning Roe, which will have to be at least the first order of business. It can be the only order of business as far as I’m concerned but YMMV.

  3. DaveO
    October 26th, 2011 @ 5:49 pm

    The next Senate will review and confirm 2 to 3 new Supreme Court Justices. If conservative candidates win, and out McConnell, Justice Kennedy’s opinion will make for nice debating points during a Moot Court.

  4. Joe
    October 26th, 2011 @ 6:31 pm

    God is coming back, look busy. 

  5. Anonymous
    October 26th, 2011 @ 8:11 pm

    Interesting comment.

    Of course, it’s a comment that could just as easily be attributed to any randomly selected Islamist.

  6. Anonymous
    October 26th, 2011 @ 8:21 pm

    Only if you consider the Founders Islamists.

  7. Anonymous
    October 26th, 2011 @ 8:28 pm


    I don’t think you understand what I was trying to convey (which makes it my fault as the communicator).

    So, I’ll try again:

    Anyone can babble about “getting God back in our culture.”

    The devil (pun intended) is in the details. Absent details, it’s a contentless statement.

    For example, it depends on just which God we’re talking about.

    Ayatollah Khomeini’s entire focus was on getting God back into Iran’s culture, and he was wildly successful at it. Do you approve?

  8. Tennwriter
    October 26th, 2011 @ 11:00 pm

    999 out of a 1000 people understood that Cain meant Jesus Christ, and not Allah.  The one that did not was knocking over some guy for money to buy meth.

    So, while more details would be nice, its far from a contentless statement.

    And yes, this statement by Cain makes me like him better.  Get the heart right, and the body will follow.

  9. Anonymous
    October 26th, 2011 @ 11:30 pm

    “999 out of a 1000 people understood that Cain meant Jesus Christ, and not Allah.”

    I suspect you over-estimate the prevalence of Christianity, but even if you don’t there are at least four or five very different Jesus Christs in play — off the top of my head, the Jewish/original Christian messiah, the paganized, deified version of the Pauline heretics (Catholics and most Protestants), the non-divine teacher of the unitarians, the “big divine brother” of the Mormons, etc.

    Saying “Christian rather than Muslim” is like saying “print rather than pastel.” It still leaves a LOT of details unspecified. And that’s leaving aside that many Christians of most of the aforementioned categories aren’t pro-life.

  10. Wintery Knight
    October 26th, 2011 @ 11:33 pm

    Thanks, Mr. McCain, for the link. I didn’t think it was fair to neglect Mr. Cain’s record when trying to interpret his statement.

  11. Lee Reynolds
    October 27th, 2011 @ 6:29 am

    Is abortion important?  Many people seem to think so.  It is America’s number one political football and an issue that the left and right never tire beating each other over the head with.  But in my view I just don’t think it matters.  Not that I don’t have philosophical objections to the extermination of unborn children, I just don’t have practical objections. 

    This is not China were children are aborted by the state.  This is a nation where children are aborted by their mothers.  What sort of women have abortions?  Do winners have abortions, or do losers? 

    To answer this question you have to ask what kind of women get pregnant without meaning to.

    Pregnancy isn’t something that just happens because a woman got sneezed on while waiting in line at Starbucks.  Pregnancy requires deliberate action on the part of two people, a conscious choice.

    If a woman lacks the basic competence and impulse control necessary to avoid becoming pregnant by a man she does not wish to have children with, then I have zero qualms should
    she choose to avoid passing her degenerate DNA on to the next
    generation.  My only real regret is that abortion doesn’t produce sterility.

    Winners get married and start a family.  Losers get knocked up and then head down to get roto-rooted.  I really don’t see a problem with this arrangement.

    If and when the day comes when decent, responsible women are being forced by the state (or some other power in society) to submit to an unwanted abortion, then I’ll be up in arms about it.  Till then I just don’t care.  Live children of idiots and losers swell the welfare rolls.  Later someone has to pay for them to be incarcerated.  Dead babies are a one time expense.

    I know this is very harsh, but I’m seriously sick and tired of people assigning cosmic significance to this issue at the expense of everything else. I’m sick and tired of real problems being ignored, or solutions to those problems never being implemented, all because a public consensus is never reached due to balkanization over abortion.  People get emotional about dead babies and lose sight of everything else. 

    The nation is trillions of dollars in debt.  Our culture and society are in moral and philosophical free fall.  Shouldn’t we be focusing on something a little more pressing than abortion on demand?  Can’t that wait till later?

  12. Larry
    October 27th, 2011 @ 9:51 pm

    Why is a Christian run government OK in the US, but an Islamic run government in the middle east not? 

    Personally, I don’t care what religion our next President is, as long as he doesn’t let his religion dictate policy.