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But … It Was Consensual!

Posted on | June 4, 2013 | 48 Comments

The case of 18-year-old Kaitlyn Hunt, charged with a felony for having sex with a 14-year-old, has elicited the support of the American Civil Liberties Union, which calls this “behavior that is both fairly innocuous and extremely common.” Well, OK, if 18 and 14 is no problem, how about 13 and 19? And how about a foursome?

Three 19-year-old northwest Indiana men have been charged separately with child molesting involving the same 13-year-old girl, the Post-Tribune is reporting.
Charles K. Nafus III, of the 2600 block of County Line Road in Lake Station, Ind., admitted he was the girl’s boyfriend, was aware of her age and that he’d had sex with her numerous times at his home, court records state.
Tevin Sevelles Carlisle, of the 700 block of McCool Road in Portage, Ind., also admitted to police he had sex with the girl at Nafus’ home in Lake Station, the probable cause affidavit states.
Kelly Rushing Jr., of the 100 block of Beverly Lane in Hobart, Ind., also told police he had sex with the girl while Nafus was present at Rushing’s home, and that the three of them engaged in sexual activity.

This is the fundamental problem with the “Free Kate” crusade: How many loopholes can we create in the law, or how much leniency can be applied in sentencing, before we approach the abyss of sexual anarchy, where anything goes and only “haters” dare object?

If you’re going to cut an 18-year-old some slack for having sex with a 14-year-old in a school toilet (which is merely “high school romance,” according to Kaitlyn Hunt’s father), on what legal grounds do you object to three 19-year-olds gang-banging a 13-year-old?

Maybe Kristin Ireland will see a “Lifetime movie” scenario here.



48 Responses to “But … It Was Consensual!”

  1. 53mdr
    June 4th, 2013 @ 7:49 am

    RT @smitty_one_each: TOM But … It Was Consensual! #TCOT

  2. RantMan
    June 4th, 2013 @ 7:52 am

    Jesus dude! Beat a horse to death much? Just saying…

  3. robertstacymccain
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:01 am

    They haven’t raised the white flag yet.

  4. joethefatman
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:01 am

    The camels nose under the tent. I think they just won’t admit they want pedophilia legalized. I never thought I’d see pedobear here, though it’s use does fit contextually.

  5. joethefatman
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:02 am

    And as long as some see it as “beating a dead horse” they never will.

  6. robertstacymccain
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:07 am
  7. RantMan
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:07 am

    I hear ya…. but, on and on and on…. your kinda starting to sound like….wait for it….Charles Johnson!

    *runs screaming for my mommy*


  8. Ric the Magnificent
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:26 am

    There’s a reason it’s known as hebephilia and pedophilia, because it’s WRONG! Freekaters are insidiously trying to use homosexual causes as a reason to “blur the lines”

  9. the daily smug
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:29 am

    Great blog! I’m putting yours on mine. Hope you don’t mind.

  10. Dr. Todd Ambrosius
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:29 am

    You’re right. Let’s stop beating dead horses. We should drop Benghazi, too. And the IRS. And Obamacare. And Kermie the Wonder Abortionist/Murderer. In fact, let’s just sit nice and still enjoying our sustainable algae cakes and be thankful that we’ve been permitted to breathe.

    No wonder this masterwork of civilization is spiraling down the toilet bowl. Good bloody grief….

  11. RS
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:29 am

    Check out number 3 on this list:

    It would appear the apologists are making some headway.

  12. joethefatman
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:31 am

    It is.

  13. robertstacymccain
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:31 am

    What troubles me is that, rather than make an argument for mercy based on acknowledged wrongdoing — “It was bad and illegal and Kaitlyn’s learned her lesson” — the Hunts decided to (a) falsify the facts, (b) minimize the crime, (c) smear the family of the victim, and (d) make an appeal on the basis of alleged “discrimination.”

    This could create a dangerous precedent, introducing into law the concept of a “right” to have “consensual” sex with minors below the statutory age, and the Free Kate crusaders seem not to care about this danger.

  14. Dr. Todd Ambrosius
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:32 am

    The behavior is extremely common. So that’s what makes it okay. Great. We might as well pack up civilization now under that logic. The failure of Man is so ingrained, what’s the point in even bothering?

  15. Ric the Magnificent
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:33 am

    The trial is in a month, hopefully they’ll see surrender as their best option before then

  16. Ric the Magnificent
    June 4th, 2013 @ 8:34 am

    Uh, yeah, what you said. LOL

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  18. RantMan
    June 4th, 2013 @ 9:24 am

    I agree with that.

  19. BredRightAndTrue
    June 4th, 2013 @ 9:45 am

    Typical. Devoid of facts with a heaping helping of falsehoods. Boobus Americanus cares not for truth.

  20. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 4th, 2013 @ 9:47 am

    That was a Frumesque comment RantMan, just saying!

    I get what you are saying (RSM must be around 20 posts on this topic in less than two weeks) but that is because so few in the media are covering it. TOM is the place for finding out what nonsense is latest for Kate.

  21. bet0001970
    June 4th, 2013 @ 10:00 am

    Why not 20 guys and an 11 year year old? Oh wait…has that been done already?

  22. Mm
    June 4th, 2013 @ 11:00 am

    The story in the SFGN is back up, re: Paige Johnson. One of several money quotes: “Paige was later charged with violating probation after getting into a
    verbal argument with a friend. Her probation was overturned and she is
    now being forced to serve out the rest of her sentence in the Warren
    County Jail in Pennsylvania.” Any bets on who the “friend” was?

  23. Dana
    June 4th, 2013 @ 11:08 am

    Murder in Philadelphia and Chicago and Camden is also extremely common, and, considering that most of the murder victims are people we don’t really want to have around — gang bangers and drug dealers — it could also be called “fairly innocuous.”

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  25. keyboard jockey
    June 4th, 2013 @ 1:25 pm

    The ACLU ignores Kate’s been offered a plea deal and rejecting it. It’s difficult to see her as a victim of overzealous prosecution, when the prosecution already used prosecutorial discretion in her case.

    This statement is the equivalent to the ACLU message to it’s supporters stating their “Solidarity” with their cause, lowering the age of consent.

    After what the ACLU has done to commitment laws in this country, we have Loughner, Holmes, Lanza as exhibits A,B and C, do we want them watering down child rape/molestation laws? In the name of what- it was just a technical legality that the perpetrator was legally 18 years old female, and therefore should be treated less severely? That’s exactly what happened in the form of a plea deal. The ACLU doesn’t want to take yes for an answer?

  26. Shawny
    June 4th, 2013 @ 1:31 pm

    It’s not “beating a dead horse”. It’s raising loud, reasonable and credible opposition like conservatives should be on every issue which is important to us, and too few actually do. It’s screaming “NO” at being railroaded by lies, emotional displays and false accusations of discrimination which far too often have been an effective strategy for social change outside of the law by minorities pushing their agenda who know they could not change the law otherwise. Even non-activist judges can be swayed or pressured by public outcry and twisted mislabeling by the likes of the ACLU and other organizations getting involved where they have no business, where no ones civil rights are being violated and no discrimination exists, simply enforcing the law. Another bad legal precedent can be set which makes it much harder to defend the REAL victims while excusing the abuses of the offenders. We must stop being the “silent majority” who are putting our children at risk. If many conservative bloggers or any of the mainstream media had joined Stacy in flaming these liars defending a child abuser to further their own selfish agenda the horse wouldn’t still be alive to beat.

  27. joscefi
    June 4th, 2013 @ 1:41 pm

    This may be the same subject, but it raises the point in a different manner. And it bears retelling, as long as the “stop th’ h8” meme is still circulating…

  28. Freddy At Night
    June 4th, 2013 @ 2:42 pm

    I think it’s actually pederasty… But “lewd or lascivious battery” is a more relevant term for it in Florida right now in this particular case!

  29. Arlene
    June 4th, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

    I loved a comment Lin left on this article at “The Gay Voice” about the predatory behaviour displayed by Kaitlyn. I think it is worth sharing.

    “. . . Hunt had never dated a girl b4 only boys according to her mother. So I find it suspicious that when she tries a new experience she finds a 14 year..academically advanced yet emotionally still a kid cause Hey ..14! to experiment with. It sound predatory in the extreme. . . ”

    “. . . I hope that this 14 yr old kid can get past this and that her parents make sure she has therapy to understand that she was NOT at fault and that she is NOT to blame for what happened. Perhaps she can manage to cobble something together left out of her childhood. I hope it can be so. . . ”

  30. Adjoran
    June 4th, 2013 @ 3:18 pm

    Why, those poor 19 year old boys! The 13 year old was obviously consenting, right? And if she were passed around, well, don’t we teach our children to share? /sarc

    Kristin Ireland is going to short out her keyboard with her tears for the gang-rapists.

  31. Alessandra
    June 4th, 2013 @ 3:18 pm

    Did you see this one?

    A jury convicted then 26-year-old Jennifer Dykes of performing lewd acts on a 14-year-old girl, a relationship she admits to. [[did you note the name? this is her real name]]

    Dykes’ attorney, Christopher Scalzo, asked the court to allow sex offenders an opportunity for a hearing, so a judge can decide whether they pose the threat that would require lifetime monitoring.

    The justices’ comments from the bench recognized that not all offenders pose equal threats to children.

    “This was what an 8 MONTH RELATIONSHIP she had with an underage person. Clearly wrong, clearly illegal, BUT THERE WAS NO PREDATORY NATURE,” said Justice Kay Hearn.

    [[Did you notice they said it wasn’t predatory???? For 8 months!]]

    State law requires people convicted of first-degree criminal sexual conduct or lewd act on a child to fall under lifetime monitoring if they violate parole or probation.

    She violated probation.

    Now Dykes is challenging that law forcing her into wearing an ankle monitor for the rest of her life.

    Regardless of the ankle monitor issue, isn’t it deeply disturbing how a 26 yr old adult that preys on girls is said to be sexually normal and not a predator?

  32. Stassinopoulos Post
    June 4th, 2013 @ 3:58 pm

    This is perfect illustration of the moral relativism the left has been pushing for decades

  33. Mm
    June 4th, 2013 @ 4:16 pm

    I just read the article and this is what bugs me, in addition to the obvious – sentences like this: “after a probation violation forced her into wearing an ankle monitor for the rest of her life.” So, the probation violation just happened on its own? Spontaneously? No, SHE violated probation. The exculpatory, passive language used in this article is deliberate.

  34. Bob Belvedere
    June 4th, 2013 @ 5:02 pm

    Damn well put, Doc.

  35. Cube
    June 4th, 2013 @ 5:15 pm

    This group isn’t called “All Criminals Love Us” for nothing. When the ACLU does wind up on the right side of an issue, its usually a case of ‘broken clock’, right once in a while but can’t be relied on.

    They’d be singing a different tune if they were personally feeling the consequences of the lunacy they aggressively promote. As long as it’s somebody else’s problem though, it’s no big deal. (spit)

  36. Cube
    June 4th, 2013 @ 5:22 pm

    Anything to feel good about themselves and avoid condemnation or consequences for their actions. No noble cause, just selfishness. How very ordinary these ‘special’ people actually are.

  37. Bob Belvedere
    June 4th, 2013 @ 5:39 pm


    Ladies and Gentlemen: Be advised that ‘RantMan’ is the lastest name for Charles Patrick Adkins, aka: Patrick, “Paleo Pat”, Chuck Adkins, Detroit Right, Old Right Blogger, k8cpa, [and now] RantMan

    Zilla did a thorough investigation of him in a post in February of last year:

    He is deranged, a true racist, and an anti-Semite. He has threatened bloggers and harassed people like Stacy McCain and Michelle Malkin.

    The proof it is him may be found in the following image, which is a screenshot of one of his RantMan Disqus comments:

  38. Alessandra
    June 4th, 2013 @ 5:45 pm

    A former Keswick Boy Scout leader is pleading not guilty to having sex with a minor.

    On Tuesday, David Brian Watkins was charged with three counts of having sex with a child under 13-years-olds.

    Watkins has pleaded not guilty to all three charges.

    All three incidents are alleged to have happened sometime in 2005.

    Watkins was arrested back in November of 2012 and charged with sodomizing one of the scouts in his troop.

    He could face dozens of additional charges from a grand jury hearing, which is scheduled for August.

    Watkins is scheduled to begin a bench trial on December 17.

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    June 6th, 2013 @ 8:36 pm

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  42. AngelaE8654
    June 7th, 2013 @ 1:51 am

    Isn’t the horse already dead? “Beat a dead horse” is the expression.


  43. Alessandra
    June 7th, 2013 @ 8:05 am

    I thought this was nicely summarized- left on another site:

    If two warnings from your victim’s parents, a school suspension, the threat of arrest and the possibility of lifetime registration as a sex offender (never mind her social media acknowledgement that she knew what she was doing was wrong) is not sufficient deterrent for you to not put your fingers and vibrators inside a 14 year old runaway child, then indeed, you truly are a sex offender.

    The victim’s parents are mandatory reporters under Florida Law, once another parent brought this to their attention they had a choice, report the sexual abuse or go to jail for enabling the sexual abuse. The school is a mandatory reporter, and so are the offender’s parents. You can be rest-assured if Kaitlyn is convicted, her parents and the school official who knew of the sexual assaults that took place in the school will also face charges.

    Kate was not “in a relationship” with the victim. She was using CS’ body as an experimental playground. Kate’s parents stated that CS was Kate’s first lesbian relationship and even they used the term experimenting. Kate used her popularity to groom and seduce and abuse the child. Looking at only the facts of the case and hearing the taped call, Kate displays all the classic characteristics and manipulations of a child molester. She threatened to pull away her “love” and attention if CS refused to keep having sex with her. I think society is lucky that she was caught now, before she went to be a teacher, nurse or worse, a mother.

  44. Roadkill
    June 8th, 2013 @ 3:15 pm

    13 and 14 year olds do not have the legal ability to consent to sexual intercourse. In many places 17 year olds do not have this ability either. Which is plenty silly itself. Perhaps at 14 we could also force charges upon the ‘consenting victim’ also. it is illegal for her consent, yes? There are not a small amount of men that have ended up in serious legal trouble from underaged girls showing up in bars and other places where one would assume only adults were present. I know it sounds silly, but I like for rules to be applied across the board.

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    June 9th, 2013 @ 7:26 pm

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