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Laura Ingraham Fights The Good Fight, George Will Looks A Tool

Posted on | February 9, 2014 | 35 Comments

by Smitty (h/t Breitbart)

In an era where

  • Congress can’t budget regularly or sanely,
  • laws are passed unread,
  • law are enforced by the Rule of Winning the News Cycle,
  • the Federal Reserve prints money at will to prop up the Dow Jones,
  • labor force participation is the lowest since the Carter administration,

George Will’s notion that we need to reform immigration to replenish the workforce seems daft. As the husband of a legal immigrant, my most generous position is that we overlook whatever rules were broken by people overstaying, and permit everyone who is here now applying for citizenship, and using the existing system to legalize themselves.

Give the illegal aliens some time, say, a one year stay of execution for everyone to get their junk together, and start using the system, as it exists, to establish themselves. The first thing you do to honor the rule of law is start playing by it. The USCIS system, warts and all, is relatively unfair to everyone, and avoids the appearance of being a mere vote-buying scheme.

But illegal aliens have to know that this is a no-kidding up-or-out moment. After that grace time, let the deportations begin. No sob stories. You put up a daily countdown, you let people know that any games of chicken will be held against them. After the deadline, remaining illegal aliens are dead to us.

All of the above would require leadership, which is sorely lacking today.

George Will, your typically cogent arguments sounded completely hollow before Laura Ingraham.

Update: thanks to Fire Andrea Mitchell for video on YouTube
One other addendum to the above is that I’d also be for shoring up the borders during any grace period proffered.


35 Responses to “Laura Ingraham Fights The Good Fight, George Will Looks A Tool”

  1. DaveO
    February 9th, 2014 @ 2:05 pm

    America does not have a lack of capable human beings to be workers. America has instead given them the option to retire on the public dole, or forced them to retire or go to prison.
    Will’s argument is daft because America already has the people, they are just riding the backs of honest Americans. Any illegal who comes here isn’t coming to work – but to get on the dole in exchange for a vote to get more from the public treasury.
    Here’s a slogan for the George Will and the GOP, if they cared: America could have replaced every bridge and road in America, plus upgraded and expanded the power grid with the money that goes to unemployment and Social Security retirements.

  2. Socialism: Organized Evil
    February 9th, 2014 @ 2:51 pm

    Agreed; she did a fantastic job and looked good doing it.

  3. Delaney Coffer
    February 9th, 2014 @ 2:55 pm

    I would love to hear Will explain how it’s in the financial (or other) interest of this country to be trawling the jungles of the third world in search of new “Americans”.

  4. Laura Ingraham destroys RINO George Will over amnesty
    February 9th, 2014 @ 3:03 pm

    […] Fox News Sunday “panel” featured three pro amnesty cranks (two leftists and George will) and one anti-amnesty person in Laura Ingraham. She school all three […]

  5. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    February 9th, 2014 @ 3:30 pm

    If there were less imported under the table labor, wouldn’t labor rates go up? Which would avoid the need for a minimum wage hike?

    Just wondering?

  6. richard mcenroe
    February 9th, 2014 @ 4:44 pm

    As I recall, Stacy’s ancestors got in trouble for that sort of thing. There was even a movie, I think.

  7. trangbang68
    February 9th, 2014 @ 4:52 pm

    Here in Tucson, there are areas in the south of the city that are totally Mexicanized. Go to the El Super Supermarket on 1-10 and 6th Avenue. If you’re white, you’re the a stranger in your own land.
    Despite Will’s claim of the noble immigrant yearning to be free, every social service agency in town is full of pregnant unwed Chiquitas getting their WIC card and food stamps.
    This thing is another nail in the coffin of the USA as we know it

  8. Socialism: Organized Evil
    February 9th, 2014 @ 6:06 pm

    To add insult to injury, Will apparently believes that the act of obtaining WIC and food stamps is somehow an “entrepreneurial act”.

  9. Proof
    February 9th, 2014 @ 7:08 pm

    It’s funny, but back when George was the token conservative on a Sunday show, which will remain nameless (but went downhill rapidly after the death of David Brinkley), I don’t remember him ever arguing his opinion so vociferously with either Cokie Roberts or Sam Donaldson, who were both frequently wrong, as he did here with LI.

  10. Wombat_socho
    February 9th, 2014 @ 7:54 pm

    I don’t find it amusing in the least. But what can one expect of a faithless Washingtonian who cheers for the hated Orioles?

  11. Proof
    February 9th, 2014 @ 7:59 pm

    As you surmised, funny peculiar, not funny ‘ha-ha’. But, watch what you say about the Orioles. Someone close to me shares a birthday with their slugging, home run hitting, first baseman of the sixties, Jim Gentile!

  12. Cube
    February 9th, 2014 @ 8:18 pm

    Shut up! You can’t go around saying stuff like that, someone might take you seriously. /sarc

    Of course you’re correct. Workers = labor supply, wages = prices. Whenever the supply of something increases while demand remains constant, prices go down and vice versa.

  13. Wombat_socho
    February 9th, 2014 @ 8:26 pm

    Not coincidentally, that’s the period my hatred of the O’s is rooted in. Every time Teddy Baseball’s Nats would get a win streak going, Earl Weaver and the Orioles would show up and turn them into dog food. 🙁

  14. Proof
    February 9th, 2014 @ 8:50 pm

    The O’s were pretty decent in the sixties. Out nemesis was the Yankees. The Yankees had Mantle and Maris in their prime, and deep pockets beyond belief! I lived in MD until I was eight, and then we moved to a small mid-western town without a ball club in sight, so the O’s stayed my team!

  15. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    February 9th, 2014 @ 8:53 pm

    We are a nation of immigrants. There is a positive benefit of taking in young, educated capable citizens, but it has to be on our terms, for our benefit. Just like Australia and New Zealand do.

    But having an open door policy with a welfare state and inviting in the very people who will rely on that welfare state is a demographic disaster. No country could survive that, it is unsustainable.

  16. cmdr358
    February 9th, 2014 @ 9:11 pm


  17. K-Bob
    February 9th, 2014 @ 9:14 pm

    It took forty years to get this bad, and as bad as it is, we DO. NOT. Have to fix it overnight.

    Fix the borders first, and just enforce current law. Yes it will take money and manpower. We all know this. Just freaking do it.

    In five years, let’s see how well that worked. THEN we’ll worry about what to do with illegals still here.

    But a massive problem is that in California, if you’re illegal, YOU are the citizen now. Everyone legal is several rungs down on the ladder. You can break the law with impunity. You can drive without a license. You can work without having any social security number or ID. You don’t have to pay taxes. You can probably even vote.

    Until we enforce current law, we have ZERO business talking about regularization, legalization, or a “path to citizenship” for anyone.

    We don’t have an “immigration problem,” we have an Illegal Alien problem.

  18. Socialism: Organized Evil
    February 9th, 2014 @ 9:15 pm

    In Will’s perverted mind, Santana Gaona – – is apparently the next William Gates III.

  19. Socialism: Organized Evil
    February 9th, 2014 @ 9:22 pm

    Will certainly has some very strange notions about “human capital” and entrepreneurship. At this point, one has to wonder if his definition of “entrepreneurial acts” also includes the generous spreading TB to the unsuspecting locals in the illegal alien sanctuary county of MoCo:

  20. trangbang68
    February 9th, 2014 @ 11:36 pm

    This is an orchestrated effort to kill the working class in the USA. It’s a cabal of liberals wanting to level the playing field, global financiers wanting cheap throw away labor, union stooges hoping to feather their own nests and useless bought and paid for political whores in DC.
    Our parents and grandparents built a decent working class life after World War II, now it’s being crushed under the boot heel of competing special interests.

  21. RKae
    February 10th, 2014 @ 1:13 am

    For our benefit, on our terms… and SLOWLY. A flash flood of people from another culture just turns you into that other culture. If you take immigrants slowly, then you turn them into YOUR culture, instead of the other way around. (Anyone who thinks that’s a racist comment, just ask yourself: If their culture is so wonderful and yours isn’t then why are they creeping into your country?)

  22. Adjoran
    February 10th, 2014 @ 2:34 am

    There used to be a requirement of every legal immigrant that they have a job or a sponsor who would guarantee they would not need public assistance for at least five years. It was a reasonable rule.

    But sensible immigration won’t stop the flood of illegal unskilled labor. We have a very finite need for unskilled labor which will not increase just because more want to come here.

    Of course, it doesn’t help at all when state and federal benefits are made available to illegals.

  23. Adjoran
    February 10th, 2014 @ 2:39 am

    We need more than existing laws, although of course enforcing the laws we have already is important. But we also need visa tracking since most of the illegals got here by overstaying a legal entry, not by sneaking across the border.

    And we should implement e-Verify nationally. It’s been proven to work, and would accomplish what the fraud prone I-9 forms were supposed to. It would limit illegal labor to cash under the table, employers would no longer be able to pretend they thought the workers were legal.

  24. K-Bob
    February 10th, 2014 @ 2:54 am

    Sure. I can think of dozens of new things that would be frikkin’ great to implement.

    But we don’t really *have* to implement any of them. I mean, what’s the point? Enforce the damn laws we have, and let’s see how it actually works. Don’t just throw “fixes” at it. Especially if no one is going to enforce any of them.

  25. Shawny
    February 10th, 2014 @ 7:24 am

    Exactly! Taxpayer funding was allocated to enforce the current laws. If that’s not what they’re doing with the money it’s called misappropriation of funds. If this administration refuses to faithfully execute then there’s no damn need for a DHS and it needs to be dismantled. The I.C.E. agents have been telling congress for years that they are not being allowed to do their jobs. That’s obstruction and leadership should have been fired long ago. Amnesty doesn’t solve any of the problems and I don’t see anyone introducing legislation that even attempts to. Besides, it doesn’t matter what law gets passed if there’s no transparency, oversight or enforcement.

  26. SDN
    February 10th, 2014 @ 7:47 am

    “Our parents and grandparents built a decent working class life after World War II, by blowing the rest of the world’s economy to Kingdom Come.”
    FTFY. Absent another war with similar results (America relatively untouched, rest of world trashed) you will never replicate those conditions.Tech is going to replace unskilled labor one way or the other.

  27. Dai Alanye
    February 10th, 2014 @ 12:41 pm

    Then let’s have “tech” move in on the jobs being taken by illegals. Start with stoop labor in the fields. Next move to software design, where legals with green cards are replacing American citizens.

    Only problem is, in the real world not all human effort can be efficiently replicated by machine. Think about that the next time you get a haircut.

  28. Quartermaster
    February 10th, 2014 @ 2:30 pm

    You *can* automate haircuts, but I won’t guarantee quality. After a bit of development work, it would get better. How much better is the question.

    I volunteer you as one of the subjects for development.

  29. Quartermaster
    February 10th, 2014 @ 2:31 pm

    I thought Will was a Cubs guy.

  30. Quartermaster
    February 10th, 2014 @ 2:33 pm

    I seem to remember 10 vice 5 years.

  31. K-Bob
    February 10th, 2014 @ 4:17 pm

    If everyone could live with a buzz cut like I give myself every month or so, then we could put all hairdressers and barbers out of work, and onto baracks’ great food stamp lollapalooza.

  32. K-Bob
    February 10th, 2014 @ 4:24 pm

    We had a local Tee Vee sports guy in Detroit who ALWAYS put the word ‘hated’ in front of ‘Yankees.”

    (I just looked him up. His name is Steve Garagiola, and I finally figured out that he is brother to Joe Garagiola Jr. and therefore son of Joe Sr. Steve is a funny guy. He’s been in Detroit for a few decades now, I think.)

  33. Quartermaster
    February 10th, 2014 @ 6:29 pm

    Will doesn’t look a tool, he is a tool.

  34. cmdr358
    February 10th, 2014 @ 7:27 pm

    It appears that America is the land of opportunity. Sickeningly so.

  35. Dai Alanye
    February 10th, 2014 @ 10:05 pm

    Based on my experience we could automate haircuts, probably by adapting 3-D printer technology to work in reverse, after scanning the prospective head and selecting type of cut. But problems would arise.

    First, of course, would be cost–both initial investment and individual cut.
    Second, a movement would arise to call for standardization of heads, probably by forcing babies to wear a series of molds.
    Next, the government, in order to reduce expenditures, would move to import a replacement population from some inbred society where all the heads were alike.