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Without Irony or Self-Awareness

Posted on | May 22, 2015 | 70 Comments

@MaliniMohana is a feminist and wrote this:

“By representing your own group as uniquely virtuous, you can easily de-humanise another population.”

Yet this is exactly what feminism is about: Portraying women as uniquely virtuous and de-humanizing men. Mohana was writing about Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs), but she evidently doesn’t realize that there are women MRAs who understand the dreadful truth, i.e., “Feminism Is a Totalitarian Movement to Destroy Civilization as We Know It.”

However, it’s very difficult to blame Mohana for her hateful attitude, because she lives in South Africa, “Rape Capital of the World,” which descended into nightmarish ruin under the presidency of Thabo Mbeki and has never really recovered.

How bad is South Africa? It’s worse than Detroit.

If hating men could ever be justified, the conditions in South Africa would certainly be considered sufficient justification. Our overprivileged American college girls can scarcely imagine the scale of horrors perpetrated against women in South Africa, where the government’s corruption is exceeded only by the government’s pathetic incompetence.



70 Responses to “Without Irony or Self-Awareness”

  1. DeadMessenger
    May 24th, 2015 @ 12:34 am

    I use those tools for self-criticism.

    So I know about my misjudgments, my many cognitive biases, my vast array of character flaws, and my emotional unintelligence, manifested in my unfunny smart-assedness. I think my parents were hoping I’d outgrow all this by now, but no.

  2. Steve Skubinna
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:10 am

    When I first saw District Nine, it puzzled me because the obvious metaphor was with apartheid, yet it was the present day majority black government putting the aliens in shantytowns.

    The I read an interview with Blomkamp where he said it was inspired by the influx of refugees from Zimbabwe who were isolated and preyed upon by black South Africans and Nigerian gangs.

  3. Steve Skubinna
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:12 am

    And that’s what makes you so appealing, DM.

  4. Steve Skubinna
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:15 am

    I really have a hard time accepting that apartheid was intended to protect the blacks. I suspect that decent whites might have wanted to think that to salve their consciences, but Southern slaveholders in the US prior to the civil war made similar arguments that their intentions were benevolent and that their slaves were better off than if they were free.

    I read recently that apartheid South Africa could be described as Socialism for Afrikaaners, fascism for blacks, and capitalism for British and Indians.

  5. Steve Skubinna
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:16 am

    Four legs good, two legs bad!

  6. DeadMessenger
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:18 am

    Awww. I thought it was the calm; the patience and maturity; the not getting angry and threatening people with concealed weapons; the never calling people out for gross stupidity.

    Wait…who are we talking about again?

  7. DeadMessenger
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:28 am

    1. I don’t know anything about South Africa, but I know that “Canuckistan” is pretty funny.

    2. I also have just enough reading comprehension to recognize that you are relating information told to you by someone else, and not necessarily making personal claims regarding its veracity. Perhaps you needed a disclaimer in there.

  8. DeadMessenger
    May 24th, 2015 @ 2:56 am


  9. Daniel Freeman
    May 24th, 2015 @ 3:16 am

    Instead of irascible, I think you meant obstinate or something like that. Otherwise agreed.

  10. Daniel Freeman
    May 24th, 2015 @ 3:23 am

    On pondering your figures, that implies that our perception of South Africa’s prosperity has probably been due to comparing their elites with our elites. Which is not a reasonable comparison unless you’re one.

  11. Daniel Freeman
    May 24th, 2015 @ 6:25 am

    I don’t know if you’ll see this, but I would like to suggest Vox Day’s site which is active but of a particular bent, and also a new polymath site which has some good points but doesn’t seem to be that active. But maybe you could bump it up.

  12. Steve Skubinna
    May 24th, 2015 @ 10:01 am

    I believe it was about how grossly overmatched and out of my element I am here.

  13. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2015 @ 12:59 pm

    The beauty of it is, you don’t have to accept any of what I said. The Zulu/Xhosa rivalry, which often turned deadly, was part of the picture and one of the reasons for Apartheid. The rest we are seeing worked out on a daily basis.

    The statement in your last sentence is bunk, quite frankly. You can ask Ghandi what South Africa thought of Indians and how they were treated in SA.

  14. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:02 pm

    The way I said it is enough of a disclaimer. I also have no reason to disbelieve the man or his son. Particularly so when we see the cesspool SA has become. It is now worse for blacks than it it used to be, except for the “elite” of the ANC.

    “Canuckistan” is not original with me. I used to be on a Land Surveyor’s board and a Canadian Surveyor used it as “up here in Soviet Canuckistan.” I liked it so much I had to steal it.

  15. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:04 pm

    You need to climb back under the rock you live under if all you want to do is take the stats you point to at face value. I know people there, and am not willing to swallow hook line and sinker the rot that those agencies spout.

  16. Quartermaster
    May 24th, 2015 @ 1:08 pm

    No, I just knew people that lived there, and also traveled here. The standard of living was quite similar in both places. The “metrics” often don’t tell the real story. Out “metrics” aren’t telling the story here either.

    So, if you want to point to me talking “rot” have at it. I’m just not gullible as you are.

  17. DeadMessenger
    May 24th, 2015 @ 2:29 pm

    On’t know why you think that. I probably say more stupid stuff, per capita, than anyone else here. And that’s not counting the stupid stuff I think, but thankfully never commit to bytes.

  18. PeterP
    May 26th, 2015 @ 7:44 am

    Somebody got a nerve hit. ; )

  19. PeterP
    May 26th, 2015 @ 7:44 am

    Vague assumptions? You mean like the ones underlying the “rape culture” myth?

  20. George Wyngaardt
    May 26th, 2015 @ 8:00 am

    Do any of you live in South Africa ? You read a article that states the following and think it’s facts ?

    However, it’s very difficult to blame Mohana for her hateful attitude, because she lives in South Africa, “Rape Capital of the World,”

    “nightmarish ruin under the presidency of Thabo Mbeki”, do you even know anything about my country?

    Do you think using “big words” from a colonial language makes you more intelligent ? We have 11 official languages in South Africa, how many languages do any of you speak ? Ma Se Poes