49 Responses to “Rape Is a Crime. Or Not.”

1. DeadMessenger
   July 2nd, 2015 @ 10:26 pm

   Bovine excrement is a thing, sure, but I prefer to quote the Famous Mr. Ed: “Horsesh1t, Wilbur”.

2. M. Thompson
   July 2nd, 2015 @ 10:34 pm

   Bullshit. These people are full of it.

   I’m sorry, but there are times when pain is the best medicine for the soul. And the confrontation can help.

   There are none so blind as those who will not see. These people are the willfully blind. The chance of real sexual trauma is unlikely, and they have confused bad sex with it. I hope they learn the difference.

3. DeadMessenger
   July 2nd, 2015 @ 10:38 pm

   Feminist idiots like one this demean and trivialize women who have actually been raped in reality, and not just in their sick fantasies.

   Women who go to the police, have a rape kit collected, go to court, confront their attacker, and worst of all, sit there and listen to the defense attorney blame it all on her, are genuinely brave. Not some knucklehead who drags a mattress around, for pity’s sake.

4. M. Thompson
   July 2nd, 2015 @ 10:41 pm

   Damn straight, ma’am.

5. Art Deco
   July 3rd, 2015 @ 5:19 am

   Paul Hollander in Political Pilgrims has some discussion on
   how problems in living come to be expressed in a political idiom. He was sorting through the writings of Communist Party members and people in the red haze around them. While there can be a Marxist discussion that is not reducible to personal-problems-in-political-idiom, I doubt there is a recognizably ‘feminist’ discourse that cannot be so reduced (at least in addressing any question that might have been topical in the last 60 years).

6. Dana
   July 3rd, 2015 @ 6:46 am

   All universities should, and really must, take the position that all reported sexual assaults will be referred to the police, because collegiate administrators do not have the time, professional skills or inclination to investigate reported crimes. Only in that fashion can the universities protect themselves from lawsuits that they did not “do enough” to protect students.

   Think about what the lovely Miss Ridolfi-Starr has asked: if reported sexual assaults are handled only in-house, without reference to the police, the worst that the university can do is to expel the accused student. If we assume that the accused student really is a rapist, then Miss Ridolfi-Starr’s proposal leaves a rapist free and out on the streets. Her proposal doesn’t end any danger he poses, but simply transfers it from one group of young women — the coeds at the university — to a different group of women.

   But, perhaps Miss Ridolfi-Starr doesn’t see the women of some working-class neighborhood as being as deserving of protection from an assailant as the highly intellectual coeds at an Ivy League college. They are, after all, just the plebians of society, the laundresses and convenience store clerks and even [shudder!] housewives. Who cares if they get raped?

7. Dana
   July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:02 am

   Remember that the administrators at Penn State tried to handle the child abuse case of Jerry Sandusky in-house, and for their efforts, then-President Graham Spanier, Tim Curley and Gary Schultz might wind up in the state penitentiary.

   Three otherwise fine men, who just couldn’t believe that their friend could have been a child molester, men who had no training and no experience as criminal investigators, and three men who had absolutely no inclination or desire to go where the Sandusky case led, all facing felony charges, all looking the possibility of hard time, because they didn’t report the case to the police.

   Any collegiate administrator who receives a report of a campus sexual assault and who chooses not to report it to the police would be put in the same positions as Messrs Spanier, Curley and Schultz, possibly facing felony charges if the accused assailant goes on to rape other women.

8. Matt_SE
   July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:50 am

   Another thing:
   If the guy is actually a rapist, and is merely expelled from campus, who thinks expulsion would deter a violent criminal?
   Why wouldn’t he just walk back on campus and attack again? It’s not like they have a border patrol to stop him.

9. Matt_SE
   July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:53 am

   Marxism was chosen as the basis for all these leftist grievance movements because it REQUIRES there to be a victim and oppressor.

10. WHMay
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:56 am

    Now that Ms. Zoe Ridolfi-Starr is a graduate, if she is raped now, will she call Columbia admin or just call the cops?

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12. Ilion
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 8:08 am

    And thus, we see that no actual rape actually happened.

13. Art Deco
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 8:30 am

    Three otherwise fine men, who just couldn’t believe that their friend could have been a child molester

    I’ll wager you that the main campus of Penn State has about 11,000 employees, and Sandusky had retired two years earlier. There’s no particular reason absent testimony to that effect to think that Spanier or Schultz (whose book was business and finance) were more than acquaintances. (There are about a half-dozen people still living who were my boss’s boss’s boss at one time. One or two might vaguely remember me). In point of fact, there’s no reason absent testimony to believe Curley and McQueary were more than congenial with Sandusky. It was Paterno who was his close collaborator and friend (and Paterno reported him to higher-ups; McQueary talked to Paterno and a number of others).

    While we’re at it, the ‘felony charges’ Spanier, Schultz, and Curley are facing are process crimes. It’s the prosecutocracy at work. The ‘child endangerment’ charge is humbug as well, though it may be statutorily permitted humbug. Very seldom if ever can you prosecute someone 11 years after the fact for an act of omission, and a year after Sandusky’s exposure, the prosecutor did not know the identity of the youngster Sandusky was supposedly diddling in the shower, much less Spanier et al. Spanier’s lawyers asked for a specification of the times and places where Spanier had a responsibility to care for a particular youth which responsibility was neglected. The prosecutor replied that she was under no obligation to provide any specification. No one should be pleased with this sort of behavior by the prosecutor.

14. robertstacymccain
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 9:01 am

    She never was raped, according to an anonymous source cited here. It is alleged that Ms. Ridolfi-Starr only claimed to be the victim of a sexual assault in retaliation against a male student who had threatened to report her unwanted advances toward him. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity of that source or the accuracy of that allegation, it is consistent with the modus operandi of Sulkowicz and other false accusers, i.e., using the claim of rape as a means of revenge against a male student who has spurned the accuser’s interest in a romantic relationship, and then exploiting the false accusation to become prominent as an activist “survivor” in campus feminist groups. This has the additional benefit of qualifying the false accuser for a future career as a professional activist in the growing non-profit feminist activist sector, which has provided lucrative employment for Jaclyn Friedman, Zerlina Maxwell, etc.

    Ms. Ridolfi-Starr will never be raped now that she has graduated. She was never raped before. False rape accusations are commonplace at universities for the simple reason that campuses offer so many incentives that encourage female students to identity as “survivors.” Once they leave campus, feminists find that there is no venue in the real world akin to the student disciplinary tribunals where fake accusations are adjudicated in universities. Instead, after graduation, feminists seek opportunities to file lawsuits accusing employers of workplace harassment or discrimination, a lucrative racket where employers typically pay generous out-of-court settlements (a year’s salary is customary) simply to make the complainant go away, which is cheaper than the litigation costs of taking such claims to court. Another common post-graduate tactic of feminists is to find a successful man they can convince to marry them, conceiving a child or two together and then (once the unsuspecting husband has paid off his feminist wife’s student loans), to file for divorce, taking the house and children, using false accusations of domestic abuse.

    Universities now teach female students that they are all victims, oppressed by male supremacy. This core tenet of feminist ideology — “The Patriarchal Thesis” — justifies women in inflicting harm on men by any means necessary. Any honest and intelligent person who carefully studies feminist rhetoric, especially the “rape culture” discourse, must conclude that feminists believe males have no rights any woman is bound to respect, and that any harm women can inflict on any man is “social justice.”

15. HouseofSuffering
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 9:31 am

    There is really nothing worse than an ideology that allows you to justify your own selfish actions and petty resentments as noble and good. The problem with a lot of social justice ideology is that it assumes that oppression gives you a moral “Get Out of Jail Free” card and that the bad behavior of the oppressed is a result of their oppression as opposed to the expression of the universally depraved nature of mankind. In some way, taking refuge in “victim” categories is a substitute for salvation, since it satisfies (so long as you buy into the idea that to be a victim is to be shorn of your sinfulness) the universal human desire to feel as though one is on the side of the angels, and, unlike religion, requires very little if any actual self-improvement.

16. Jim R
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 9:33 am

    Maybe her next move will be to demand that universities declare themselves to be “no rape zones”*, complete with little stick-figure signs. THAT will work, right?

    =====

    (*) They already appear to be “no thought zones”.

17. Dana
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:02 am

    Mr Deco, Jerry Sandusky was an assistant coach at Penn State for thirty years, twice winning national assistant coach of the year awards, and he was well known in the State College community. It’s going to be difficult to claim that Messrs Spanier and Schultz were casual acquaintances at best.

    The problem is that Coach McQueery reported an incident to Joe Paterno, who then took it to the Athletic Director, Tim Curley, who was technically his supervisor; Mr Curley then took it up with Dr Spanier and Mr Schultz. At that point, someone should have had the sense to say. “There’s no way we can not report this to the police,” but, blaming it on Coach Paterno, who was dead by the time they told their stories, it was decided not to do so.

    This is one of those issues where the accused gentlemen might be acquitted, depending upon the case, but professionals in Pennsylvania — including my wife, who is a pediatric nurse — are required, by law, to report instances of suspected child abuse.

    I understand why it wasn’t reported, just like I understand why bishops didn’t report offending priests to law enforcement; it’s an internal cliquishness, it’s the protection of friends, and it’s what Herman Wouk once described as “the will not to believe.” People will protect their friends even at hazard to themselves.

18. CeterisParibus
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:04 am

    Could you draw what you think that stick figure might look like? 🙂

19. Matt_SE
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:10 am

    So, these people are sexual terrorists.

20. CeterisParibus
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:30 am

    Why do Universities teach female students that they are all victims, oppressed by male supremacy? There is a relatively new study from a Barbara A. Oakley studying pathological altruism. It is more the norm in these comment lists and in others around the web to classify feminism as something which started good but has gone badly wrong. In fact the logic and active responses of feminists both radical and popular to challenges to feminism is often described as irrational or delusional. In short feminist behaviors are seen as pathological, a mental dysfunction. Dr. Oakley has written a very readable and short paper examining the particulars of toxic altruism. It can be found at http://www.pnas.org/content/110/Supplement_2/10408.full.pdf Her work seems to explain the madness so often visible in radical feminism and the effect it(pathological altruism) has on the individuals so afflicted. She addresses the harms done to others not of the target beliefs and the harms done even to their own in-group. Eight pages of text separate an annoyance with feminism to an understanding of why it works the way it does.

21. RKae
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:48 am

    Amazing that “feminists” are so intent on portraying women as utterly, utterly helpless. They can be “raped” by boys who have no guns, no knives; boys who make no fists and leave no bruises.

    And I’m supposed to agree to having these fragile, weak-willed, easily-confused, milquetoast creatures in military combat situations?

    If you’re so pliable that you can’t be trusted in the social situation of choosing when to have sex, how can you be trusted to buy a car, a phone, or to sign paperwork for an apartment rental? Can you even be trusted to buy something on ebay without incident?

22. Art Deco
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:50 am

    Jerry Sandusky was an assistant coach at Penn State for thirty years,
    twice winning national assistant coach of the year awards, and he was
    well known in the State College community. It’s going to be difficult to claim that Messrs Spanier and Schultz were casual acquaintances at best.

    No, it’s not going to be difficult. Pro-rating the seasonal presence of the student population, there are 50,000 people living in and around State College; Spanier had a five digit population of subordinates and Schultz a four digit population. There were three layers of administration between Sandusky and Spanier and Schultz was not in the chain of command at all. He was part of discussions re Sandusky because he’s the supervisor of the Chief of the Campus Police. Schultz is a long-time resident of Centre County. At the time, Spanier would have been there about five years. As for ‘well-known’ figure, the basketball coach where I used to work was also a ‘well-known figure’ in the local area. No, I never met the guy. Your claim is that they are all good friends. I assume they’d met. Spanier and Schultz knew very well who he was. Lots of people you’re familiar with and even congenial with are not your friends.

    blaming it on Coach Paterno, who was dead by the time they told their stories, it was decided not to do so.

    The grand jury testimony for which Spanier was indicted for perjury was given in April 2011. Paterno died in January 2012. IIRC, the three contended that what they understood from Paterno’s account differed from what McQueary told Paterno and others. It’s a bit tendentious to say they ‘blamed’ Paterno, but we’d have to read the transcripts.

    I understand why it wasn’t reported, just like I understand why
    bishops didn’t report offending priests to law enforcement; it’s an
    internal cliquishness, it’s the protection of friends,

    No, you don’t. There’s no reason to believe that any of these men were friends except Paterno and Sandusky. Nor, given their respective lines of work, would Schultz and Sandusky or Spanier and Sandusky be in the same ‘clique’.

    As for the bishops, there are nearly 200 of them at any one time. Why each one, presented with a set of case did x in the case of x would depend on the facts. You can find examples of what you’re talking about. But you’re neglecting the overwhelmingly common pattern: the accusations were very dated (so dated prosecution would have been time-barred for a comfortable majority nearly everywhere prior to about 1986) and the evidence for the offenses was wafer thin. Someone comes into your office in 1992 and tells you Fr. O’Malley fondled his genitals in 1975. Fr. O’Malley says he didn’t. That’s the archetypical case. Cases where they had accusations in real time (see Geoghan) were very atypical. The New York Times did a profile of the Archdiocesan Review Board in New York taking a testimony in 2004. It was from a man past 40 who contended a priest employed at a Catholic high school had groped him…in 1980. I don’t think the NYT was selecting the least compelling case that day.

23. Ilion
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:15 am

    One quails to imagine

24. Grumley
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:33 am

    But Stacy, Ms Ridolfi-Starr is not a liar and how dare you call a victim a liar. Don’t you know that rape victims never lie? .

    No matter the amount of evidence to the contrary, according to people like Ridolfi-Starr, “victims” never, ever lie. If a “victim” says it happened, it happened. In point of fact, if you accuse a “victim” of lying and present evidence of said lie, then you are victimizing her all over again. That is what I have learned over the last couple of years with a situation involving a local Christian college. “Victims” never lie. They just don’t.

25. Dana
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:34 am

    Mr Deco, we had a case in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia a few years ago in which a priest who was the supervisor of clerical assignments was tried and convicted for felonies, not because he molested any children, but because he was the secretary of the then-Cardinal who moved them around. (By that time, Cardinal Bevilaqua was an Alzheimer’s victim). He is serving a six-year sentence.

    These things are resulting in convictions these days.

26. Dana
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:53 am

    “in retaliation against a male student who had threatened to report her unwanted sexual advances toward him?”

    Uhhh, she might be cra-cra, but her sexual advances were never unwanted by any normal male.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/534165330826764288/cygfrgYJ_400x400.jpeg

    Cute girl, nice rack.

27. Dana
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:55 am

    Don’t you understand? Universities teach female students that they are all victims precisely to weaken them, to tell them that they cannot succeed on their own. It is an evil plot by Teh Cisheteronormative Patriarchy™ to keep womens down.

28. Lulu
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 1:14 pm

    I save for my kids’ college education, but honestly I don’t think I should encourage them to go — it does not seem as if they learn much of anything anymore, long-term we have a contracting economy and less need for workers, and the values I’ve taught them will be under attack inside and outside of class. I think they’d do better if I just used the money to buy them a house or help them start a business. Maybe they could go into farming?

29. Jason Lee
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 3:25 pm

    Her position makes it clear that she’s more inclined to punish innocent men than to protect women from assault and rape.

30. Adjoran
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 4:12 pm

    But but but criminal proceedings have to allow the defendant RIGHTS. Face and question accusers, right to counsel, proper procedure, jury of peers, etc. They prefer their star chambers which function more like Denunciations in the old Soviet Empire. The accusation is enough to banish the accused from society, employment, education, everything.

31. Rob Crawford
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 5:57 pm

    “Uhhh, she might be cra-cra, but her sexual advances were never unwanted by any normal male.”

    There ARE guys out there who take “never sleep with anyone crazier than you” to heart.

32. Fail Burton
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:29 pm

    Anyone who situates themselves as morally superior to half of all human beings on Earth by nothing more than virtue of what they were the day they were born is not only a supremacist but a sociopath. If they make that into something of an insistent crusade they are likely a psychopath.

    I am stunned anyone listens to these con artists. Women who are standing by and not speaking out are allowing these ditzy broads to made a case that women in fact do not know how to run a just society despite all this sick woman’s words about “justice.” Better wake up girls. Freedom won is one thing, keeping it is another.

33. RKae
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 8:50 pm

    For about a year, I had a spate of time at my job where I had absolutely nothing going on for 2 hours.

    I sat in the corner and read “The Collected Works of Shakespeare.” When I finished, I turned to one of my crewmates and said, “If I’d gone to college it would have cost me $50,000 to read that. Instead, I got paid to read it! And I got to formulate my own opinions about each play, instead of having some pretentious tenured idiot tell me, ‘No, that’s not what the play is about.'”

    I also didn’t binge drink and have irresponsible sex.

    College is a money hole, and an indoctrination center. Learn a trade. Learn a skill.

34. RKae
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 8:53 pm

    And then there’s the less responsible rule…

    1. Hot
    2. Single
    3. Sane

    She only needs to be 2 out of 3.

    Sadly, too many guys follow this.

35. RKae
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 8:55 pm

    Look behind any “social justice” of the left and you will always find a shakedown operation.

36. Mike G.
    July 3rd, 2015 @ 9:54 pm

    You could encourage them to go into a trade. The trades will always be necessary.

37. Daniel Freeman
    July 4th, 2015 @ 12:44 am

    And some of them, such as auto repair, require an increasing amount of real intelligence. I know a mechanic that does crossword puzzles all the time. He’s lucky he’s both strong and smart, since that’s what it takes.

38. CeterisParibus
    July 4th, 2015 @ 12:48 am

    Yes, of course I understand. After all I am a card-carrying member of Teh Cis P. Our man, Ivan the Targeteer, is arranging strike sequences as I put this to paper. Except for their Engineering departments all Universities are on the list.

39. CeterisParibus
    July 4th, 2015 @ 1:12 am

    A very great number of those who “who are standing by and not speaking out” are benefitting from the comradery, instant acceptance and set-asides crucial to any recruiting effort. Popular, or coffee shop feminism is as much dependent on the natural tendency of female in-group bias as it is on ideological attraction. This is how the human animal works. Capital “F” feminism is never going to go away. Only it’s activism and ideology can change. This is an age of communications. All differences can find a voice and a camp.

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41. trangbang68
    July 4th, 2015 @ 6:22 am

    Why is Zoe, the Greek word for life such a popular name for lib parents whose world view is the culture of death?

42. Dana
    July 4th, 2015 @ 8:15 am

    But it doesn’t “banish the accused from society, employment, education, everything.” At most, it banishes him from one particular college campus. It does not prevent him from matriculating at another university, nor does it take him off the street, nor does it mean he can never get a job. If the accused lived off campus, it doesn’t even mean that he has to move further away.

    One has to wonder what Miss Ridolfi-Starr would think if a real rapist, who was punished only by expulsion, was to rape another coed, maybe one who lived off-campus, because he was never tried and sent to prison following the first rape? Would she see any responsibility, herself, for pushing for a way to not subject him to the criminal justice system?

    Well, no, of course she wouldn’t; that would take a form of introspection and sense of responsibility that the left simply do not possess.

43. Dana
    July 4th, 2015 @ 8:17 am

    When you are drunk and horny, is there anyone crazier than you? 🙂

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45. BlueSunday
    July 4th, 2015 @ 9:36 am

    It is only meaningful to use the word “survivor” if there is a reasonable chance that someone will die as a result of a particular experience. One “survives” a flood or fire. Yes, there have been times when psychopaths kill their victims after raping them, but this is not a general feature of the campus rape culture, I mean, hook-up culture. The activists’ use of this word seems another aspect of their dishonesty.

46. M. Thompson
    July 4th, 2015 @ 9:48 am

    A complete lack of self awareness.

    And a chance to use an accent to rub it in to the hoi-palloi.

47. RKae
    July 4th, 2015 @ 10:17 am

    Because it’s usually the one kid they allowed to live. It’s their way of boasting that they wield total power of life and death.

48. Shawn Smith
    July 4th, 2015 @ 9:25 pm

    I haven’t read past her self-description yet, but cripes! this woman is evil.

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