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Rush Limbaugh on Zeitgeist

Posted on | January 19, 2011 | 43 Comments

“If the movies you go see tell you that your government was behind the downing of the trade center and the Pentagon in 9/11 — as the movie Zeitgeist did, a documentary — if you were told by Michael Moore that all of this was done on purpose, if you’re told that the rich have taken what’s rightfully yours, if you’re bombarded with this every day as part of a political message, what would you be capable of doing? . . .
“You take people who are unbalanced, weak, susceptible, impressionable and you bombard ‘em with that message in the Democrat Party and their willing accomplices in the media every day, and what the hell kind of person or people are you going to create running around out there? Then you show ‘em the Michael Moore movie or show ‘em the Zeitgeist movie, their government — led by a Republican — lied, took us into war in Afghanistan, lied to take us into war in Iraq, lied about weapons of mass destruction, lied about being responsible for 9/11, purposely wired those buildings to blow up and blamed it on some innocent Muslims, what are you gonna think? Are you not gonna run around confused and filled with hatred?”
– Rush Limbaugh, Tuesday, Jan. 18, 2010

This is my 14th post about Jared Loughner’s Zeitgeist obsession and, as I remarked on Andrea Shea King’s show Monday night, I’m afraid I’m nearly as obsessed with it as Loughner was — but don’t worry, I’m not going to go crazy. However, I’m not going to stop blogging about this so long as those whom Limbaugh calls the Democratic Party’s “willing accomplices in the media” continue to ignore this crucial evidence that the Tucson shooter was suffering from an acute case of Bush Derangment Syndrome. The absurd claim that Loughner’s was suffering from right-wing paranoia is completely debunked once you begin digging into Zeitgeist’s worldview as a progressive New Age phenomenon.

Ed Driscoll jokes, “Funny, I don’t recall seeing that film running during the last National Review Cruise,” but it’s no joke. Maggie’s Notebook has watched the whole movie and yesterday pointed out that the Artivist Film Festival — which gave its 2007 “Best Feature” award to Zeitgeist — is funded by the Brazilian petroleum company Petrobras, in which George Soros held a major stake until that became politcally controversial.

The producers of Zeitgeist have put a transcript of the film online and, while it isn’t actually complete — there are parts of the narration missing — it’s important to look at what Zeitgeist actually claimed:

“September 11th was the jump start for what is now an accelerating agenda by the ruthless elite. It was a staged war pretext, no different than the sinking of the Lusitania, the provoking of Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin lie. In fact, if 9/11 wasn’t a planned war pretext, it would be an exception to the rule. It has been used to launch two unprovoked illegal wars, one against Iraq and one against Afghanistan. However, 9/11 was a pretext for another war as well. The war against you. The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, the Military Tribunals Act and other legislations are all completely and entirely designed to destroy your civil liberties and limit your ability to fight back against what is coming. . . .
“[L]et’s recognize how history repeats itself. In February 1933, Hitler staged a false flag attack burning down his own German Parliament building, the Reichstag and blamed it on communist terrorists. Within the next few weeks he passed the Enabling Act which completely eradicated the German Constitution, destroying people’s liberties. He then led a series of pre-emptive wars all justified in German people as necessary to maintaining “homeland security.”

Yeah: 9/11 was the Reichstag Fire. Remember that Zeitgeist was released in 2007. How many “Bush = Hitler” posters did we see at left-wing anti-war rallies back then, when 18-year-old Jared Lee Loughner was becoming obsessed with Zeitgeist?

Liberals who tried to blame Sarah Palin, Fox News, talk radio and the Tea Party movement for Loughner’s crime cannot be permitted to ignore the progressive roots of the killer’s insane rage.

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  • gg

    …if you were told by Michael Moore that all of this was done on purpose…

    Limbaugh is a bald faced liar. And so is RSM for peddling this bs.

  • gg

    If you were to blame the New Age philosophy for Zeitgeist mishmash and Loughner’s actions, i’m going to blame Christianity for Hitler’s hatred of jews and the Holocaust.

  • Right-is-wrong

    gg, you’re such a spoil-sport. Don’t you understand that poor RSM thinks this is his gravy train and he’s going to ride it for all it’s worth.

  • Kmueller40

    I would have thought the probability of some effect from Leftist propaganda on most of us would have been fairly high, because of its ubiquity, and because an increasing number of us use a short-cut for understanding that which we have little information about (the Pravda switch) : 180 degrees from whatever the Left says is a pretty good first approximation of the truth of the matter.

  • gg

    For someone who thinks New Age philosophy is all about Atheism, i agree, i’m giving unnecessary importance to a “theocrat” like RSM.

  • gg

    …or for isntance, the right’s bigot brother in arms, Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley. As PZ Myers puts it:

    Gosh. I guess Christians in Alabama are just extra-special people. The rest of us — Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, Hindus, animists, whatever — not so much.

    Isn’t it just amazing that the governor of a secular state would stand up and unabashedly make a speech declaring a specific religious group as having a privileged status with him?

  • Joe

    gg calling someone a liar. Now that is rich. gg is getting nervous Stacy you are onto something here.

  • Joe

    gg, Hitler’s motivation for Jew hatred was not Christianity. He considered Christianity a derivative form of Judiasm and hated that too. Hitler into neo-Germanic paganism.

    But you keep trying.

  • gg

    Not surprsingly you are right on target (and missed the larger point. )

    New Age philosophy/movement is not into 911 thrutherism either. But you keep on trying though.

    Atheists don’t believe in bible fairy tales but doesn’t mean that they look towards Zeitgeist conspiracies to validate their views.

    Show me one prominent atheist (Richard Dawkins, Michael Shermer, James Randi, PZ Myers etc) or a New Ager (like deeapk Chopra, Wayne Dyer, Echart Tolle, Adyashanti etc) who approves of Zeitgeist bs. And i will agree Christianity has got nothing to do with hatred of jews in the contemporary world.

  • jdub

    If the shooter was such a “leftie” or “anti-right wing” or “anti-republican-President-starting-a-war-based-on-lies” or then why did he shoot a Democrat? Your logic just doesn’t add up.

    Can we say: scapegoat?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GFWGCNDU3TDDCDM3PSI4TF2DNY wadi

    Sorry dude – Hitler was a socialist. You know, National Socialist Worker’s Party, and all. But carry on with your whinging, and go ahead and blame who you like if it makes you feel better. The MSM does the same thing, so it’s not like it’s just you.

    Do me a favour though — stop banging your sippy cup on your high chair, it’s distracting.

  • http://pointofagun.blogspot.com/ Dave C

    He’s had an obsession with Giffords dating back to 2007..

    Crazy has no ideology.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GFWGCNDU3TDDCDM3PSI4TF2DNY wadi

    I think Islam has Christianity beat in the world of Jooo hatred.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GFWGCNDU3TDDCDM3PSI4TF2DNY wadi

    So, you’re telling us you feel Loughner was a scapegoat and the real guilty party is…….hmmmmm…….let me guess……..wait, I’m still thinking here……OK, I’m ready to take a stab at it (sorry for the uncivil language)…….SARAH PALIN!!!!

  • Joe

    If Alyssa Milano managed to tweet you, how long before El Rushbo giving his official blessing to Stacy?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GFWGCNDU3TDDCDM3PSI4TF2DNY wadi

    Right, and that was back when dissent was patriotic and being suspicious of the government was a-ok.

    The reason he became obsessed with her is that he felt disrespected by her answer to his “insightful” question: “What is government if words have no meaning”.

    According to a friend at the time, he then thought her “stupid” and started obsessing on her.

    The fact that she was a Dem (and a centrist Dem at that) was less important than the fact that she was a part of government. Remember, this was before Palin became nationally known and before there was a Tea Party for the Lords of Tolerance on the left to use homophobic terms to describe, but it WAS during the time when conspiracies stories involving Bush-led governmentwere a staple of the political left.

    After all, Bush knew about and approved the 9/11 attacks and he lied to get us into two wars, doncha know. He shredded the constitution and wasn’t going to leave office after his second term was over, ad nauseum. Oh, and DARTH CHENEY and the eeeeeevil Haliburton!!!! ZOMG!

    Anyway, this was the state of the world of (approved) political conspiracies circa 2007 when he became obsessed with Giffords.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    That’s all you got?

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    HaHaHaHa who gives a shit who you blame for what? Who are you the fucking Pope.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    There isn’t any one “New Age Philosophy” its a mish-mash of different kinds of shit, from belief in the power of Angels to attuning with Pagan deities, from Pantheism to feel-good Christianity. But one thing they all have in common is they tend to be politically progressive. They might not all be Truthers, some might be, but then again, 9/11 belief one way or another isn’t a dogmatic element of New Age philosophy. They would say all war and other problems is a result of people not being attuned to their basic spiritual needs and being more self-centered and materialistic as a result.

    The fact that you’re defending the New Age Movement proves they are progressives. If they were conservative you would be damning them as wholeheartedly as you probably do the Tea Party.

  • Anonymous

    If the shooter was such a “leftie” or “anti-right wing” or “anti-republican-President-starting-a-war-based-on-lies” or then why did he shoot a Democrat?

    Why did the Left “target” — ooh, there’s that word again! — Joe Lieberman, a Democrat, for defeat in the 2006 primary?

    Of course, Loughner was no part of any organized “Left.” He was a lone crazy. But the fact that politicians are Democrats does not dictate that they only have enemies on the Right. Remember that the student radicals who rioted at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago were rioting against Hubert Humphrey, a liberal in good standing, whose great “sin” in radical eyes was to support LBJ’s effort to defeat communism in Southeast Asia.

  • Anonymous

    That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • Anonymous

    0/10, weakest troll yet.

  • JeffS

    Equally unsurprisingly, gg does not address Joe’s point that Hitler hated Christians and Jews equally. Instead, gg changes the subject, a sure sign that Joe was on target with his point…..and gg knows it.

    All that hate really ties up a person’s brain, huh?

  • JeffS

    Equally unsurprisingly, gg does not address Joe’s point that Hitler hated Christians and Jews equally. Instead, gg changes the subject, a sure sign that Joe was on target with his point…..and gg knows it.

    All that hate really ties up a person’s brain, huh?

  • Aussie54

    oops I liked it by mistake…. gg is the liar.

    The truth is that Michael Moore is a total disgrace and no one should believe anything that the piece of refuse says.

  • Aussie54

    and gg you would be wrong. Hitler was influenced by Madame Blatavesky. He had renounced Christianity… so go do some book learning instead of peddling your lies.

  • Aussie54

    Markos Moulitas put a target on Giffords. Perhaps he was a reader of Daily Kos and seeing that he hated her anyway, he decided that she had to go…..

  • Aussie54

    Stacy you were a part of that era and I have a question: Weather Underground – were they active when a Democrat was President?

    I hope you understand my question :)

  • Nomen

    Stacy,

    You said, “…the Artivist Film Festival — which gave its 2007 ‘Best Feature’ award to Zeitgeist — is funded by the Brazilian petroleum company Petrobras, in which George Soros held a major stake until that became politcally controversial.”

    The Brazilian government has always held the controlling ownership interest in PETROBRAS. Soros purchased his minority stake in the second quarter of 2008, which was several months after Zeitgeist won a prize the December 2007 Artivist Film Festival. Also, your assertion about Soros’ motive for selling his shares is based on an anti-Obama urban legend.

    http://www2.petrobras.com.br/cultura/ingles/cinema/fest/index.asp
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aFHPjfeUvtl8
    http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/

    Blaming Soros for the shootings is just as dishonest as blaming Palin.

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  • Right_is_Wrong

    That’s probably as high as you can count, Ws.

  • Anonymous

    There’s no way that anything gg has left here deserves double digits. In fact, I’d use negative numbers on occasion if I thought there was any possibility she might comprehend them.

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  • Anonymous

    When are you going to see a psychiatrist about your case of projection?

  • Anonymous

    Wombat_socho, none of the words little gg uses mean what she thinks they mean.

    If she had the most basic reading comprehension imaginable, she wouldn’t be a Leftard.

  • Anonymous

    You can say anything you like.

    But judging by this, you’re going to get laughed at. A lot.

  • Eoj Trahnier

    Aussie, that is so honest and funny! Thanks for coming back and clearing things up! That’s why we love you!

  • Eoj Trahnier

    Ah, I think you already DID that, didn’t you Egg?

  • Eoj Trahnier

    But, Egg…Christianity has nothing to do with hating Jews. Your “promise has no premise. ” I am sorry that you feel you have to hate God, and all that but have you ever considered that if you are an atheist, even a prominent one (means he will burn hotter in hell, just a guess?) you are hating something that, for you, doesn’t exist?

    So what’s the point of hating what isn’t there?

    “Global warming is caused by the increase in liberals burning in hell.”

  • Eoj Trahnier

    Penalty applied, noted and logged, star date 2011/1/18

  • Eoj Trahnier

    And Obama likes Madonna’s pecs.

  • Eoj Trahnier

    Anyone with two brain-cells that communicate with each-other hates Democrats.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    That’s an easy one. Giffords was a Blue Dog Democrat, meaning she was conservative, for a Democrat. Most progressives and even some liberal Democrats consider OBAMA to be conservative, or center-right, I’ve actually seen them make that argument. What do you think they think about Giffords? A clue, they wanted to replace her with somebody more progressive. Some of them, like Moulitsos, said that openly.

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