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‘UR SO HOT! C MY WANG?’
(Or, #WeinerGate Explained)

Posted on | June 4, 2011 | 24 Comments

Mark Steyn quotes Little Miss Attila in regard to The Story That Won’t Go Away. (“If you experience an erection lasting more than four news cycles, call a spin doctor.”) Attila said:

Everyone lies about Twitter-flirting, and everyone knows that everyone lies about Twitter-flirting.

Kellie Jane said that it is actually not so unusual for guys to do what Weiner is accused of doing. I was skeptical: “What’s up with guys getting drunk and tweeting their junk? Is it really that common?”

This seems to be a generational phenomenon explained to me in an e-mail from a university professor, who says he read it on another blog:

Sending the tumescent wiener pic is, apparently, what one does in response to an explicit text/direct message from your sexting buddy. To show your appreciation.
Until I read this I was confused too, because it seemed odd that someone would think the pic in question so arousing or attractive. But as a “look at what you just said did to me” gesture, it makes a lot more sense, no?

It makes about as much sense as anything else nowadays. The sexual customs of the younger generation mystify me. Back in the day . . .

No, no. Never mind my old stories. I’m just grateful I hung up the spurs and got married before the advent of digital photography and the Internet. Of course, there is that old Speedo pic . . .

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Category: Anthony Weiner, Culture, Scandal, Sex

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  • Joy McCann

    Well, it is a “see what you did to me” issue, if the two people know each other. Unless it is just a jackass being rude.

    I’m still taking a lot of heat for calling that “flirting,” but it was, we all assume, meant to be an intimate pic, and only became more generally known because he messed up and didn’t DM it. The acid test for a conservative is this: if your husband were deployed, or on a business trip and sent it, would it be annoying–or endearing? If the latter, then what is getting to you is the inappropriate context–the youth of the lady in question, his married status, the fact that the two hadn’t met in person, etc. etc. So focus on those issues, rather than getting worked up over whether or not heterosexual women are ever turned on by the male body.

  • Anonymous

    I’m trying not to over-analyze reactions to this story, Joy. Do we really need to explain why people are shocked that a congressman would (evidently) tweet his junk?

    This attitutde — that ordinary outrage requires an explanation — is a hangover from the Clinton era. Remember, Clinton at first denied that he had sex with “that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.” This denial gave Clinton’s defenders several months to spin it, to explain why we shouldn’t really be shocked that the President of the United States got an Oval Office blowjob from a 20-something intern — which, of course, could never rise to the level of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” even if the president lied about it under oath and suborned perjury from Lewinsky and others.

    And after people had been psychologically softened-up for several months with those arguments, then and only then — when busted by DNA — did Clinton admit the truth.

    Well, I don’t care how they spin it, Clinton should have had the decency to resign from office rather than put the country through the ordeal of impeachment. And yet, because Clinton got away with it, evidently Anthony Weiner thinks he can pull the same basic trick — plunging the country into yet another argumentative exercise in moral relativism when what Weiner (apparently) did was in fact such a disgrace that if he had a scintilla of decency he would resign.

    But he doesn’t have a scintilla of decency. He’s a Democrat.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dianna.deeley Dianna Deeley

    Do you really think he’s going to get away with it?

    I ask because of the level of ridicule; it seems so ridiculous, and his behavior is making it funnier by the hour.

    A Dem’s career can withstand sex scandals (ask Barney Frank), but can it survive this level of absurd, silly jokes? There’s no way to make that tweet anything but ludicrous. 

  • Anonymous

    Folks used to “share, save and or savor ” intimate moments  via Polaroid to avoid having one or two people involved in developing one’s pictures or the kid at the drugstore counter leering at a romantic anniversary get away. I recall every once in while actually reading about folks getting arrested for such pictures. Now they send them to strangers, not for money, just for notoriety.

  • http://2011.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

    Seems to me if I wanted to do that “see what you did to me” response, I’d hire a stand-in. Or  something.

  • Anonymous

    What hire? I’m sure there’s a sufficiency of Ron Jeremy pics one could swipe.

    And if you ever have a face to face and she’s disappointed, just remind her (or him) that the camera adds 10 pounds…. ;-)

  • Joy McCann

    When you assert that the Clinton scandal was about the sex, you give ammo to the Democrats. The Clinton scandal was about perjury.

    This matters, because the American people want to feel that there is still a distinction between what is public and what is private. Standards may be higher than they used to be–no one, for instance, could get away with JFK’s behavior in this day and age–but the average person doesn’t want to feel that public officials’ private lives are being shoved in their collective faces. If you’ll excuse the expression.

  • Anonymous

    Joy: Are you saying that the sexual probity of high officials is of no consequence? That it is irrelevant whether a candidate for office is happily and faithfully married or whether he is living a life of degenerate promiscuity? Do you mean to say that character doesn’t count?

    I’m not giving ammo to Democrats, but you are firing their ammo!

  • Anonymous

    He also doesn’t have the friends, near as many folks who owe him or the entire left machine behind him as Clinton did. I think even to the Social Democrats and their Winston Smith Media, Weiner is expendable.

  • http://twitter.com/dustbury Charles G Hill

    In that case, I’ll say that I was using the three-camera method.

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  • http://www.redstateeclectic.typepad.com AngelaTC

     I think it matters, but not only because character counts. (That’s true for me, but I know lots of people who don’t agree with  that.)  The reason it should matter is because it means the man in that office could potentially be blackmailed to vote a certain way, to provide certain security records, or whtever it is dastardly people do to one another.

    If he and his wife have an open marriage, while my initial reaction is a big “ewwww!”, it isn’t like I was gonna vote for him anyway.  If she’s cool with it, then it really is none of my business.  But putting yourself in compromising positions ultimately means….you’ve been compromised.

  • Sleazepetal

    I’m actually surprised that wasn’t obvious. P.S. Since women aren’t as visual as men, we don’t care for crotch shots. We like lurid descriptions. I probably should have made that clear in my post, but I didn’t think a “how to” was appropriate given the circumstances.

  • Dan

    You guys are wrong about some of the reasons younger men are sending around pics of their junk.

    It’s intended as something of a demonstration of Alpha status.   It’s also used on women when they’re texting something snarky, or whining, or asking too much of you, or bemoaning a lack of commitment to the relationship.  It’s a younger version of “whatever.”  Pics of peckers NOT upright are also used.

    There the message is “Just suck it up babe!”  Behind that lies the attitude that women are nothing more than sperm spittoons and their whole value lies in their ability to please us men.

    It’s all an offshoot of the hate directed at women from black rap videos and urban pathology.

    Even when pics themselves aren’t actually sent, then other symbols are used.  Such as:  8===========).    

    Citizen Renegade posted once on the various ways such things are to be used for the purposes of pick ups.

  • Dan

    Oh, and one more thing, guys are doing this sending DEAD SOBER.  It’s not a situation where they’re ripped and just doing it for laughs.  It’s happening all the time amongst the 20somethings and those younger.

    Have any of you guys been to bars where the younger sorts gather?  The women have three things, their drinks, their pocket book and their hand helds.  And their hand helds are CONSTANTLY being checked out.  They look down more than they’re looking around.

    It’s unbelievable what’s going on out there.

    Now I’m a bachelor, in my upper 40s, {fit and look like I’m in my mid 30s},  so I can easily pick up 20somethings, which I do. 

    These younger chicks will go down on you without so much as a “by your leave” and not even give it a second thought.   Last Sunday I was at church and was getting a heavy stare down from a girl I knew for a fact was nothing but a teenager!

    Today’s chicks are BRAZEN, and that’s all part of the whole phenomenon of these younger guys just cutting to the chase and sending them a pic, {upright or not}.

    As for that idiot Weiner, ——————- that was all part of him trying to demonstrate some youth street cred.

  • Dan

    Must say I’m kind of surprised that RSM wasn’t aware of this weird going on amongst the 20somethings.

    Many do use fake photos by the way.

    And there exists a code too about the various possibilities of fake photos.

    Like a horse photo, or a white guy sending a black fake photo.

    It’s ALL fucking whacked!

    And it’s a damn disgrace.  But the younger sorts see romance as an illusion and view male/female relationships through the prism of power and utility.

  • http://2011.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

    It’s all an offshoot of the hate directed at women from black rap videos and urban pathology.

    I was a little surprised not too long ago when some show or movie I was watching depicted some guy getting grief from his buddies because he wanted to spend time with his girlfriend instead of with them, but your observation indicates where the shift happened.

    When I was young and small-r randy, one’s buddies approved of spending time with a girl, even at the expense of hanging with the crew. These days it’s “bros before hos” and you have to keep her “in her place.”

    Given the context, that’s so wrong the word has to be misspelled to convey how wrong it is: WRNOG.

  • http://www.haemet.blogivists.com Roxeanne de Luca

    Being not much out of the 20-something range, I feel like I have to comment.

    Back in my day, men sometimes pulled down their pants or put women’s hands “there” to show themselves off.  Now, I didn’t think of it as flirting or as endearing, because, well, I had been dating these guys for mere weeks – husbands they were not.  Weiner pics are the new digital version of that.  Crass, IMHO.

    Young men also expect a lot sexually from women – Dan is right on that, but I don’t know if it’s from the Clinton Administration (oral isn’t really sex), or because some women do it, so men pressure all women to do it, and young women are insecure and will do a lot of things to please men.  Either way, if you’re a woman and you don’t give oral, you’ll find men who will treat you like garbage and dump you for it.  (Yes, I was actually once dumped for not putting out, and, as I left the car, the SOB shouted after me, “You could have at least given me a blow job!”)

    All I can say is… remove some boundaries, take a sledge hammar to those load-bearing walls in society, and all hell breaks loose.

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