61 Responses to “ORLANDO DEBATE: Open Thread UPDATE: ‘You Don’t Have a Heart’”

1. Bob Belvedere
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 1:24 am

   Why do you link The Evil Architect?

2. postaldog
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:01 am

   Thought Perry was going to walk over and pop Santorum in the mouth over that border thing.

3. Mike
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:02 am

   Perry and Romney have forgotten Reagan’s eleventh commandment. And Chris Wallace is perpetuating their internecine feud. 

4. Olliander
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:05 am

   Bye-bye Bachmann, Santorum and the guy all the way to the right.  This debate puts an end to their campaign methinks. 

5. Better than the debate « Don Surber
   September 22nd, 2011 @ 10:08 pm

   […] The Wall Street Journal and Robert Stacy McCain are liveblogging it. […]

6. CoolChange
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:13 am

   Binational health care, glad we heard that today.

7. CoolChange
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:14 am

   Perry is a sissy.

8. Anonymous
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:27 am

   Cain earns major kudos for proposing to eliminate the EPA! That’s change I can believe in.

9. Mike
   September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:34 am

   I wrote a book…no…I wrote a book…You’re a liar…no, you’re a liar. Perry and Romney spar as Wallace referees.

10. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:41 am

    Perry needs to defend himself (better) but he ain’t gonna knock Romney out tonight or in the next 4 months. He should be trying to knock Bachmann and Santorum out. Never been that big a fan of the number nine. Nine is OK but I find myself becoming less and less enamored of it.

11. Norman Invasion
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 2:41 am

    Do you make Chee-LAY with beans?  Well, do you, punk?

12. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:05 am

    Sorry…I’m not bi-curious.

13. ThePaganTemple
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:13 am

    I have to agree on Cain, I think he won this one, with Santorum a very close second.

14. Steve in TN
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:20 am

    With Perry unable to do anything in the debates, the number of candidates I want to vote for who are running for the nomination is ZERO.

    C’mon, GOP.

15. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:23 am

    I didn’t give him any chance in the race, but it’s pathetic that they include all nine of these folks and exclude McCotter.

16. Joe
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:25 am

    Ha!  I missed the fun.  My kid was sick and my wife was out.  Looks like I did not miss much. 

17. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:25 am

    Nine against the Nazgul.

    It has been foretold.

18. ThePaganTemple
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:39 am

    I don’t know, somebody might have already done this, but if not, somebody needs to conduct a poll of cell phone users, preferably also ones that are likely Republican voters.

19. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 3:40 am

    If you don’t like Chee-LAY, you don’t have a heart!

20. Fox News/Google GOP Debate – Rick Perry declares that you don’t have a heart if you oppose discounted in-state tuition for illegal immigrants : Fire Andrea Mitchell!
    September 22nd, 2011 @ 11:49 pm

    […] of illegal immigrants in the state of Texas, you don’t have a heart. That’s right, if you don’t support the Texas Dream Act (which progressive liberal Democrats want to do on a national level) you are just heartless. Perry […]

21. Adjoran
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:28 am

    You mean Allahpundit?  Didn’t you hear?  There’s no more “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Don’t Moisturize” anymore, they have the right to serve openly.

    There was a little linky-love earlier, but I’m sure Stacy and Smitty are just . . . curious . . .

22. Adjoran
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:33 am

    In Texas, they don’t even consider it Chee-LAY if it has beans or tomatoes in it.  Only beef, peppers, onions, and your tears from handling the peppers.

    Remember the Alien promo:  “In Space, No One Can Hear You Scream”?  Well, in Texas, they can hear you scream, they just don’t care.  That’s why they have all those chain saw massacres.

23. Adjoran
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:39 am

    Romney wins again – not by so much, and Cain performed notably well, too.  It doesn’t mean much, but if Perry lets these guys get under his skin, he will blow his top at Obama, who is an arrogant little prig, and maybe risk the election by doing it.  He’s got to do a better job debating.

    Our candidate is going to be in the same political situation as Reagan in 1980:  failed incumbent with no respect vs demonized-as-radical challenger.  Reagan only needed to reassure the public he wasn’t unhinged to win.  Same thing this  cycle, Obama is going to throw the nastiest campaign at us since Adams and Jackson.  We just need to show America it is just desperation, and we win.

24. Adjoran
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:43 am

    When I get that feeling, I just imagine Obama standing next to each of them in turn.

    It’s amazing how sane Ron Paul looks then!

25. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:45 am

    He has some amusingly snarky things to say now and again, which is why I often link him in Live At Five, but not as often as when he was living up to his nom de blogue. Those were the days.

26. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:46 am

    It’s canonical!

27. Adjoran
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:48 am

    McCotter wasn’t “excluded” from anything.  The debates have been using the rule you have to have shown 1% support in any four polls to be included.  That’s why Johnson just got in. 

    Isn’t it bad enough now with nine, seven of whom have no practical chance of winning the nomination?  Imagine trying to work in McCotter, Roehmer, and that other guy we never heard of or from – 12 candidates isn’t a debate.  Heck, it’s too many for a good dinner party (Jesus pulled it off, but no one since has).

    If I want to hear from a bunch of people who will never be President I can always turn on CSPAN.

28. CalMark
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 4:57 am

    Apart from his substance, which was probably the best, Herman Cain just looked so darn…LIKEABLE.  That’s gotta scare the LSM, which is probably why he’s gotten so little exposure thus far.

    Bachmann looks and sounds wooden to me.  Can’t figure it–she’s a good public speaker:  on TV, GREAT at Tea Party rallies. 

    Finally, these aren’t “debates.”  They’re reverse press conferences, with the LSM picking who gets to talk.  

29. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 6:26 am

    Funny points.  It sort of turns into a pageant, doesn’t it?

    Maybe they should take pointers from those ladies who pimp their kids in the 5-and-under pageants.  Also, we need judges.  Simon Cowell and Adam Carolla, and a trade to be named later.

30. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 6:28 am

    Pre-squish?

31. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 6:58 am

    Very. For example, he used to sell a T-shirt with the Israeli flag and the slogan “Six Days, Bitches!” in English, Hebrew and Arabic. He also used to blog AS Allah, hilariously.

32. Thomas Knapp
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 7:21 am

    “The question isn’t whether children of illegals should be educated, it’s whether they should be subsidized by taxpayers with in-state tuition rates.”

    Actually, that’s not the question at all.

    Immigrants — documented and undocumented (per the framers of the Constitution, there is not and cannot be any such thing as an “illegal alien” under federal law) pay more per capita in taxes than natives. So the question is, why should immigrants be required to subsidize the natives’ education discount (and Social Security, btw, in a huge fvcking way) if they’re denied that discount themselves?

33. MrPaulRevere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 9:04 am

    Rick Perry is displaying an apalling level of tone deafness of the issue of illegal immigration. If he can’t thread this needle he’s finished. He seems like a smart guy with solid instincts, its all very strange.

34. Anonymous
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 9:48 am

    “(per the framers of the Constitution, there is not and cannot be any such thing as an “illegal alien” under federal law) ”

    Heard that one before, didn’t buy it then don’t buy it now.

35. ThePaganTemple
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 11:29 am

    Obviously some open borders moron.

36. Mortimer Snerd
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:30 pm

    Frank Luntz couldn’t get his video clips to play during the focus group, but said that Perry’s “you have no heart” comment about illegal immigration was very badly received.

    Oh no.  Not another “compassionate conservative.”  God help us! 

37. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:36 pm

    Lord Karl of the Rove.

38. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:37 pm

    Governor Perry does come off like a high school jock.

39. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:38 pm

    If the rumors are true…

40. Zilla of the Resistance
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:42 pm

    I have a very bad feeling that the MSM and RINO machine are going to try to cram a Perry/Romney or Romney/Perry ticket down our throats for 2012.
    Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain won, Perry is being exposed as what he is, Romney, while a big fat RINO was mildy amusing during the snarkfest between him and his likely running mate. 

41. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:44 pm

    It’s like the top jock and the class president going at it in high school [with Herman Cain as ‘Coach’, Michele Bachmann as ‘Miss Redfern’ the English Teacher, Ron Paul as ‘The Shop Teacher’, Jon Hunstman as ‘The Asst. Principal’, Newt as ‘The History Teacher’, Gary Johnston as ‘The Humanities Teacher’, Rick Santorum as ‘The Algebra Teacher’]

42. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

    The Fellowship Of The Right Wing.

43. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

    I know you’re not going to like this, Adj, but: SARAH, SARAH!

44. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:51 pm

    No, Thomas is a good egg, but you have to understand that he’s a hardcore Libertarian – his marrow doesn’t recognize the rest of his bodie’s right to one moment of his time.

45. Bob Belvedere
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 12:52 pm

    I have absolutely no compassion for ’em.

46. ThePaganTemple
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 1:09 pm

    It’s too late for him to dig himself out of this hole, and any attempt to do so would be a flippity flop that would put Romney to shame. Santorum owned his ass on this issue. He’s the only one that really hammered it home in a way that cleared away the smoke Perry was blowing.

47. ThePaganTemple
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 1:11 pm

    I have to say that, even though in my opinion Cain won the debate, he had one bad moment when he alluded to that Frankenstein’s monster he wished he could create for a VP candidate, equal parts Mitt and Newt.

48. Fuest
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 1:49 pm

    “hardcore Libertarian”- like the man said, a moron.

49. Tennwriter
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 1:51 pm

    The Ladyfaire, a Texan, assures me that they do care….its the fun part to hear the out-of-staters scream.  And they might spice it up a bit more just to hear them scream.

    My brother-in-law did give me some uber-spice one time.  I got revenge by grabbing a two-liter of coke from his fridge, and practically drinking the whole thing.

50. Tennwriter
    September 23rd, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

    Abso-teetotally-lutely.

    I can vote for Ron Paul.  I’ll just make him swear an oath before a weeping statue of St. Ayn Rand not to mess over Israel, and to do specific things to help them, and then I’ll vote for him.

    Its kinda like how I could have voted for Giuliani.  Promise on the secret recipe for New York style pizza that you will put in Originalist (aka Abortion hating) judges, and we could work something out.

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