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Apparently, Everybody Involved in the Petraeus Scandal Is a Swinging Sex Freak

Posted on | November 13, 2012 | 53 Comments

The CIA chief, his West Point-educated girlfriend, an FBI agent, the “social liaison” at McDill AFB, the top general in Afghanistan — they’re all as freewheeling and frisky as college juniors on Spring Break in Cabo. Gabriel Malor at AOSHQ summarizes the sordid mess:

Jill Kelley, the woman who was (allegedly) threatened by Gen. Petraeus’s squeeze Paula Broadwell and who (apparently) started the FBI investigation that led to Petraeus’ ouster, who went to the FBI for help after the threats and then (allegedly) had a relationship with the FBI agent in charge of her own case, who (allegedly) sent her shirtless pics of himself, also (apparently, allegedly) had “compromising” communications with Gen. John Allen, the Big Damn Commander of our war effort in Afghanistan. . . .
It’s not a love triangle. It’s a love Pentagon.

Good grief. America’s national security has been entrusted to the pledge committee at Delta Tau Chi. This is shocking beyond description:

Marine Gen. John R. Allen, the four-star U.S. commander of the war in Afghanistan, exchanged thousands of “potentially inappropriate” emails with Jill Kelley, the Tampa woman who claimed to have been harassed by the ex-mistress of former CIA Director David Petraeus . . .
The FBI notified the Defense Department on Sunday of “potentially inappropriate communications” between Allen and Kelley, and turned over to Pentagon lawyers 20,000 to 30,000 pages of emails exchanged by the two from 2010 to 2012.

Who the hell sends “20,000 to 30,000 pages of emails” to anybody? That’s somewhere between 7,000 and 10,000 pages a year. Jilly Kelley is a civilian, a married mother of three, so why is the four-star Marine general in charge of the Afghanistan war sending her all this e-mail? When did he ever find time to, y’know, fight the war? But the FBI hasn’t covered itself in glory, either:

After Kelley alerted the FBI, agents began pursuing it as a possible case of cyber harassment or stalking. “The thought was she was being followed,” the source said.
The anonymous emails continued — sent from multiple alias accounts — and some later ones in the sequence contained references to Petraeus, though not by name, the source said.
What most alarmed Kelley and the FBI, the source said, were references to “the comings and goings” of high-level generals from the U.S. Central Command, which is based at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, and the U.S. Southern Command, as well as Petraeus — including events that were not on any public schedule. This raised the question as to whether somebody had access to sensitive — and classified — information. . . .
Meanwhile, it has come to light that the FBI agent contacted by Kelley about the emails she received from Broadwell was removed from the case. According to officials, the agent’s supervisors said he had become infatuated with Kelley and had sent her shirtless photos of himself.

What the hell? Is our entire government staffed with people who have nothing better to do with their time than to chase poontang? Are our taxpayer dollars being used to pay for this stuff?

Hey, we’ve got a trillion-dollar deficit and we’re in hock to the ChiComs, but don’t you worry, America — we’re getting our money’s worth out of these dedicated public servants who occasionally do some actual work in between their cybersex sessions.



  • Bob Belvedere

    Thank you, Alfred Kinsey.

  • robertstacymccain

    Really. Is this the Pentagon or the Playboy Mansion?

  • smitty

    If we don’t get an adult diaper in this story somewhere, I won’t know whether to be mentally or physically relieved.

  • Eric Dondero

    I’m a former Swinger. It’s a great lifestyle. Though, hard to keep up. Was “in the lifestyle” for about 3 years. Swingers are high achievers type people. Lots of workaholic small businessmen and women.

    The gays push gay marriage all the time. But what about poly-amorous relationships? If it’s okay for homosexuals to get married, why not one guy and two girls? Try asking a gay about that. They’ll demure and quickly change the subject. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

  • robertstacymccain

    Uh, TMI, Eric.

  • Evi L. Bloggerlady

    Who knew Afghanistan was the The L?ve Deployment! And Prince Harry got in trouble in Vegas, who knows what he is doing now!

    Smitty did you have even a hint this was going on there?

  • Evi L. Bloggerlady

    Thank you for sharing Eric!

  • Cheesecake

    Ok, so with the “20,000 to 30,000” pages deal: they might be counting very short messages as individual pages. I can build up close to 4k text messages in a month with my wife, so if that’s the case I can see 20k-30k being in the realm of possible easily.

  • Shawny Lee

    lol…and remember that bust recently for all of the feds watching porn at work? NOW we know who they were watching. Those who can, do….those who can’t eat Cheetos and massage their mouse.

  • Chris Wysocki

    I see this as a symptom of a leadership vacuum. The people at the top have ignored and/or scorned the military so the mentality becomes “why should I care?” Ergo the troops lose focus on their jobs and start screwing around.

    I’ve seen it in corporate America too. Company management dithers and wastes everyone’s time and the next thing you know there’s nobody working and everyone is surfing pr0n.

  • Evi L. Bloggerlady

    50 Shades of Obama? He did say the buck stopped with him.

  • Bob Belvedere

    Consult Miss Nowak on obtaining physical relief.

  • Bob Belvedere

    Is Buck, O’s latest boyfriend???

  • Charles

    One more makes it a love sexagon!

  • JeffS

    Without endorsing the lifestyle espoused by these people, let me point out something that will explain some of this behavior.

    Explain. Not justify.

    Patton once said that a soldier who won’t f**k won’t fight. This is very true; aggression and sex are apparently linked. Whether by psychology or biology is immaterial.

    Sex has long been in the background of the military; it’s officially forbidden in many circumstances, but that doesn’t stop some people.

    However, most military personnel keep it in check; whether through marriage, moral or ethical attitudes, or simple discretion is also immaterial. By and large, this is not a problem, or was not when I served (I retired from the reserves in 2006). Frankly, I think that any flag officer without a source of on-demand nookie is the exception, not the rule. I do not condone this; I merely offer my opinion.

    Alas, as others have pointed out, we have a leadership vacuum in the United States. This only encourages people to be unconcerned over any possible punishment, an attitude that increases as one climbs the flagpole.

    Ergo, a behavior that was (usually) discrete becomes indiscreet, if not flagrant.

  • Charles

    If Paula didn’t get the classified material from Petraeus, we’re looking for a sixth man.

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  • Mushugginah 101

    I got out 30 years ago and there were Swinger’s Clubs at every base I was at with the exception of one: because there were so few women there, the gays had a ball.

  • Evi L. Bloggerlady

    Your mind is in the gutter…hey wait, he is a Sesame Street fan isn’t he?

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  • Becca Lower

    “Hard to keep up”? I bet.

  • chris is a moron

    i see you as a moron. hahah.

  • jsn2

    If he is someone better warn him about larry sinclair.

  • Todd

    Uh – your dismissive grouping of ‘the lot of’ us gays shows how truly narrow minded you are. From the Log Cabin groups to the far left the opinions on the moral equivalence of same-sex marriage and other couplings is diverse.
    As for sexual dalliances of our leaders we would not have had Eisenhower or FDR if our standards were based on such misbehavior. As someone else here posted – not defending but observing that great appetites for power also come with appetites for other less desireable behavior.

  • Wombat_socho

    An army reflects the society it is drawn from. ‘Nuff said.

  • Bob Belvedere

    Mark Steyn:

    if you were thinking that what the story of the under-the-desk CIA director, the bunny-boiling biographer, the email-crazed Afghanistan commander, the CentCom
    socialite and the shirtless FBI agent lacked was a “psychologically unstable twin sister”…

    …your wish has been granted.

    The details may be found here:
    Mr. Steyn’s post:

  • Dianna Deeley

    We truly will need a “score” card.

  • Dianna Deeley

    I’m in the “didn’t need that information” category.

  • Dianna Deeley

    After this, are we sure there’s a difference?!

  • Dianna Deeley

    Soap opera digest called. They want the writers of the soaps to take notes.

  • Annie-Esq

    Most of this is manufactured – you guys on here no better than to believe everything you read.

    They are trying to take these military leaders down and discredit them. They must know something they don’t want the public to know, or to believe once it gets out.

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  • erehwon

    Oooo! Snarky AND obscure! Well played!

  • Adjoran

    You should see her dressed in jack-boots and kilt,
    She’s killer-diller when she’s dressed to the hilt,
    She’s the kind of a girl who makes the News of the World,
    Yes, you could say she is attractively built.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  • richard mcenroe

    There was an article in one of the shooty-thing magazines recently about life in the Army garrison in preWWII Hawaii. The author served in one of the Coast Artillery units and on his sentry rounds routinely observed his officers sneaking out of the wrong houses on post every night,

    When he was offered the chance to go to OCS, he declined, saying he wouldn’t want his children to grow up in that kind of environment,.

    In my own experience at Benning in the 80’s there used to be an institution at the O-club called the I-Bar, a lounge in the basement where they would bring in some of the dancers from the clubs out on VD Drive so the officers could avoid fraternization issues (and getting clocked by drunk enlisted men). This worked fine until a captain in his cups decided to to a simultaneous frontal attack on both flanks of the working stripper onstage and the I-Bar was closed. Don’t know if it ever reopened.

  • ThomasD

    And why is Obama speaking of him in the third person?

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  • Thomas L. Knapp

    “Is our entire government staffed with people who have nothing better to do with their time than to chase poontang?”

    I wish. Unfortunately, they insist on, um, governing, too.

  • Bob Belvedere

    Love American Style
    Truer than the red, white, and blue-ue-ue…

    [Yes, I’m old]

  • JeffS

    The O Club at Fort Bliss used to have strippers until 1979 or so, when a fivesome took place in the back corner late one Saturday night. The club stayed, but not the strippers. Nor the officers involved.

    Point being, sex has long been part of the military. Sometimes detrimental to morale, sometimes not. A little discretion goes a long way, but I expect that the problem here is that our leadership encourages poor, if not bad, behavior.

    I’d hate to see what’s happening in the ranks of CENTCOM HQ.

  • JeffS

    Possibly. Yet Petraeus and Allen were selected by Obama, or his close advisers. No doubt their abilities were considered, but also their loyalties. And ideologies.

    Think about that.

  • K-Bob

    Just rename it The Poontagon, and pipe in dancing music.

  • K-Bob

    The Right Stuff, Part II: The Wrong Stuff

  • Anonubett

    Just ask any officer who served in Germany in the 1980s and trained at Grafenwoehr if they remember Margaret in the O-Club.

    You bet they do!

  • richard mcenroe

    It was either four officers or four strippers and one Ranger, right?

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  • JeffS

    Not quite. 4 treadheads from the 3rd ACR and 1 stripper from Juarez.

    Any mention of a horse in connection with this story is totally false. No riding of that sort was involved.